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00:00Boom sponsors the Jeremy Carl Show on today's show
00:05Sam is a fat attention-seeking cow
00:09You believe that Louise should look a bit closer to home
00:34Is this guy a liar he says you'll pass the test a hundred and ten percent
00:44You absolutely
00:47We asked Dan since the start of your relationship with Paige if he had sexual intercourse with anyone else he
00:51said no
00:52I said no Dan
01:07Oh
01:18This special lie detector episode of the Jeremy Carl show now our first guest today Amelia is here to confront
01:22Sister-in-law from hell Louise and prove she isn't cheating on her brother now
01:26Amelia has known ex-mate Louise for nearly ten years and check this
01:30She says it was in fact Louise who got her and her brother Matthew together but says ever since
01:34Louise has been jealous is making up rumors that Amelia is a cheat
01:38She says I'm here to clear my name and tell her frenemy. It's a frenemy
01:43Frenemy and Louise to back off Amelia's on the Jeremy Carl show that way
01:54I don't know what a frenemy is what's that I don't know you don't know either
01:59Welcome to the show Amelia you all right yeah let's just do this right Matthew's your boyfriend been with him
02:03for a few months
02:04Matthew's sister is Louise yes
02:06Louise used to be your mate she introduced you to Matthew now she's not very happy with you or with
02:10Matthew and she's in a lesbian relationship with Sam and seems to be a lot going on between them as
02:14well but you
02:14What yeah
02:16And everything
02:18Sorry about the language
02:20They are
02:23Whatever
02:26Whatever
02:26Whatever
02:29Shut up
02:30Shut up
02:32So that's that's Louise on the right
02:35Yeah
02:35That's Louise the sister of your boyfriend Matthew
02:38I believe in their sister-in-law
02:39We're not even married
02:41Sorry did you not kiss her
02:43No
02:43Yeah
02:47Right lose those two
02:49Lose them look at that gorgeous
02:51Right just sit down right
02:52Stop looking look at me
02:55Are you loving Matthew?
02:57Yes
02:58And you were introduced by Louise
03:00I was
03:00Right what's your problem she was your ex best friend why don't you get on anymore
03:05It's because of a fat
03:06A fat girlfriend
03:09Keeps like
03:10It doesn't matter what size she is does it?
03:12She keeps lying about everything
03:14Right she's a child that keeps sleeping around
03:16She does
03:18Be quiet woman
03:21Why don't you just get on with Matthew and why doesn't she just get on with her lover?
03:25What's the situation?
03:26She does jealous because her brother's got me
03:29Yeah
03:31Sam is a fat attention-seeking cow
03:33Yeah
03:35You believe that Louise should look a bit closer to home and that a girl
03:39She's not a fat
03:39You and the one that sleeps around
03:44You would
03:44Yeah
03:46Leave it
03:47Leave it
03:48Leave it
03:48Why is she doing a lie
03:50You think that Louise should stop concentrating on your relationship and look closer to home
03:55Yeah
03:55Cause her girlfriend that one that just come round the corner and yeah she's nicked off her
03:59Yeah she has
04:00So you're with Matt
04:01His sister's Louise
04:02Louise used to be your mate and then she introduced you to him
04:05Now she doesn't like you
04:06She's in a lesbian relationship where you think she should concentrate on that
04:10Cause she you think her girlfriend is a thief
04:13That's about it and you know her frenemies
04:15Will that be fine?
04:16Yeah
04:16Christ I'm getting old Louise
04:17He's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way
04:24Try to dissolve
04:25Take a bit longer to dissolve me
04:27Don't
04:27You're controlling him
04:29Alright
04:29You are
04:30Whatever
04:30You are
04:31Just tell him what you're doing
04:35Come on then
04:36She does not control me
04:37Don't even start
04:38I'm sick to death
04:40I've got my own mind
04:41Mind
04:41I can think for myself
04:42Right
04:43Sorry could you do me a favour
04:44Why can't he do what he wants in his relationship
04:46Why don't you concentrate on your
04:48How do I need to get hurt?
04:48Cut your backs out and get your nose out
04:55She used to be your mate you introduced them what's your problem?
04:58I introduced them I didn't want to get together
05:00Why not?
05:01What's it going to do with you?
05:02Cause she's a cheat
05:03Oh my
05:03I used to fuck
05:04I had no fuck
05:05Sorry can we slow
05:06I didn't understand a word of that you were swallowing your tongue
05:08What did she say?
05:11That's where we met
05:12Yeah
05:12She used to sleep around with everyone
05:14So what?
05:15If she did that and that's a pass and she's happy with your brother
05:17Why don't you keep your nose out of their business and concentrate on your own?
05:21She's doing my business with my girlfriend
05:24She's doing my business with my girlfriend
05:26She's doing my business with my girlfriend
05:26She says your girlfriend's a thief
05:27Is she like a thief?
05:29Is she like a thief?
05:29She's a thief
05:30Why did you tell me that she robbed your purse and your phone?
05:34Because I thought she did at the beginning
05:36Well that's not great
05:37She's got to lie
05:38She nicked your purse?
05:41I thought that because there wasn't her just there
05:44There was other people there as well
05:45You told my team she's turning your brother against you
05:48That's what I feel like
05:49I feel like
05:50Talk to him
05:51He's jumping at the bit
05:52Can you get a chair please?
05:53I'm bringing the brother out
05:54I feel like she's busting my old brother
05:55I used to stick up for him when he was a little boy
05:58But why don't you let him make his own mistakes?
06:00Live his own life
06:01Being his own
06:01Why are you getting emotional?
06:03It's not your business is it?
06:05I know
06:05It's my brother
06:06Yeah
06:06You're his sister
06:08I'm happy for them both
06:09I just feel like she's controlling me
06:11Tell her
06:11I feel like you're controlling me
06:13I'm not
06:14He's got his own mind Louise
06:15Because it's weird on Facebook
06:16Oh God
06:18It's his
06:18It's not actually
06:20It's your writing
06:21No it's not
06:22Shut up
06:22No it's not
06:26It's not
06:26So hold on a minute
06:27He's got his own mind
06:28Not mine
06:29So hold on a minute
06:30You've done a lie detector have you
06:32To prove that you haven't cheated on him
06:33Yes
06:33Quite why you should have to do that is beyond me
06:35But she says your mate
06:36Your girlfriend
06:37How long have you been with Sam?
06:38About since 9th of December
06:44So a few months then
06:45Yeah
06:46Do you think she's a thief
06:48She's doing a lie detector
06:49Is she to prove that she hasn't stolen
06:50Are we going to go to a break
06:51Or are we going to go to a break
06:52Or are we going to go to a break
06:53Then we've got your brother
06:54Who's going out with her
06:55Who says you should keep your snout
06:56Out of his business
06:57And keep your snout in your business
06:58That didn't come out right
06:59We've got a double lie detector
07:01Back in a minute
07:01Don't go anywhere
07:03How dare you call me a f-
07:05You're just jealous of me
07:07That's sad
07:08You're Amelia
07:09Why lie about being pregnant then Amelia
07:11She didn't lie about being pregnant
07:13It was you who lied about being pregnant now
07:15No you're pregnant not him
07:17If she's not being pregnant
07:17Why does she go down
07:18She should go to the hospital
07:19She's a lizard
07:35It's all kicking off security
07:39It vengeance
07:44This test says you're a liar love
07:47This isn't about you, this is about your children.
07:50Oh, here we go, the power of the peace.
07:52OK, more happiness after...
07:56Oh, get off!
07:58No, no, no, no, no!
08:02Oh, my Lord.
08:05Please go through us to put up with this.
08:16Welcome back to the break, Amelia and Louise.
08:18You used to be mates, you're now with her brother,
08:20and you're introduced, you don't like her.
08:22Now you say she's controlling my brother, he's got no mind.
08:25You say, hold on a minute, get your nose out of my business,
08:27concentrate on yours, you're with Sam, she's a thief,
08:29double line tenter, brother Matthews on the Jeremy Carl Show, that way!
08:39I want to hear from you, talk, what's the story here?
08:42Well, her girlfriend's always lying and everything.
08:45Saying that she was in a coma and that.
08:48Yeah, she lies.
08:49I mean, I have heard that I've met her before, that's fine,
08:51but let's talk about you and your girlfriend, Amelia.
08:54Your sister seems to think you're being controlled, talk!
08:57I'm not being controlled.
08:58Shut up!
08:59I'm 18.
09:00I feel like you are, Matthew.
09:03I can fix it for myself.
09:04Since you've been with her, you've not even got to see the other family.
09:08What has she done, apart from what happened in the past
09:10when she was at college, to make you think that she's a cheat?
09:13Come on!
09:13She used to sleep around with men.
09:15And have you ever slept around?
09:16Have you ever cheated on anybody?
09:18I've cheated, yeah.
09:19Then keep your blimmin' nose out of their business,
09:21why can't they have changed?
09:23I don't understand!
09:25Because I've got lying to go,
09:26Are you jealous?
09:28I'm not jealous now.
09:29Are you sure?
09:30Yes.
09:30You look mildly jealous.
09:31Matthew, you speak, please.
09:33You out here before going, I love my life.
09:34I'm not jealous.
09:35Well, not like that.
09:36She is jealous.
09:37Jealous of what?
09:38The hickeys on your neck?
09:41Maybe you're just young and dumb and 18 and being wound up by this girl,
09:45but even if you are, I can't help but think he has to find that out for himself.
09:48How long have you been in a relationship for?
09:50Apparently she's a tea leaf, December the 9th.
09:52Sam's on the Jeremy Kyle Show that way.
10:02You're jealous, Amelia.
10:05That's...
10:05You're Amelia.
10:09Please, sit down.
10:10You're the...
10:13Have you stolen from her?
10:14No, I haven't, Jeremy.
10:16Yeah, I've said lies in the past,
10:18and I've admitted to you in the past,
10:19but now I've started a new life.
10:21You're happy since December the 9th, yeah?
10:23Yeah.
10:23Yeah.
10:24Why has your girlfriend got such an issue with Amelia?
10:28Because she's trying to control Matthew.
10:29She hacks into...
10:30He says she hasn't!
10:31She hacks into his Facebook.
10:33I don't even know what that means.
10:35She hacks into my Facebook.
10:35What?
10:36She hacks into his Facebook.
10:37I'm sharing her phone at the moment,
10:38and I've got my account...
10:39Why can't he do what he wants to do?
10:41Why are you two so interested?
10:43We're not interested...
10:45Basically...
10:48Well, why lie about being pregnant, then, Amelia?
10:51Amelia's my brother.
10:51She didn't lie about being pregnant.
10:53It was you who lied about being pregnant.
10:55No, you're pregnant by him.
10:56If she was not being pregnant,
10:57why did she go to that?
10:58She should go to the hospital.
10:59Hold on a minute.
10:59She's a lesbian.
10:59How are you getting pregnant?
11:00By it?
11:02Sorry, hold on a minute.
11:03Hold on, sorry.
11:04Hold on a minute.
11:06You're pregnant.
11:07No, I'm not.
11:08She's actually...
11:09I lied about being pregnant.
11:10I'm sorry.
11:10I'm not trying to be...
11:11I'm 51.
11:11I get excited.
11:12There's a pattern on the kitchen roll.
11:13How would you get...
11:14Are you trying to have a baby with her?
11:16No, I was with my ex-partner.
11:19Oh, you were with a man before...
11:20Yeah, because I'm bisexual.
11:22Oh, lovely.
11:25So you thought you were pregnant,
11:26but now you're not with a man.
11:28You're in a good...
11:29And the relationship's a good relationship?
11:31Yes, it's strong.
11:31It's strong?
11:32Yeah, since December the 9th.
11:34But you're not very happy.
11:36You think she's basically a wolf in sheep's clothing.
11:38You think this woman's going to be shown up to be what she is.
11:41Yeah, OK.
11:41But isn't that up to Matt to find out?
11:43He's young and dumb and full of life.
11:47Isn't it up to him to find out, though?
11:50Come on.
11:51Yeah?
11:52Yeah.
11:52Have you cheated on him?
11:53No.
11:53Right.
11:54Have you stolen money or fell?
11:55No.
11:55No?
11:56So, Sam, the accusation apparently on lie detector was that he nicked some money.
11:59Is that right?
11:59I'm supposed to have lit Louise's purse.
12:02Interesting.
12:03Did you steal Louise's purse?
12:05We asked Sam.
12:05She said no.
12:06What did you say no?
12:06She was telling the truth, ladies and gentlemen.
12:11Well, you look quite relieved, like you thought she maybe had nicked your purse.
12:15I did at the beginning.
12:16I did have a bit of a wrinkling.
12:19A bit of a what?
12:21A bit of a winkling?
12:22No, wrinkling.
12:24What?
12:24Wrinkling.
12:25Oh, I thought you said I had a bit of a winkling.
12:28Then when we do lie detector stealing wires, we always...
12:31Are you complicit?
12:32Do you know for sure who stole the purse?
12:34Sam said no.
12:35Sam passed every single question.
12:36She's not a tea leaf.
12:37Well done.
12:37Are you tapping yourself?
12:42Amelia, you can't call her a tea leaf.
12:44And if you pass, you can't have a go at her.
12:46And you can all get on with your damn lives.
12:48But if you failed, you're going to make me look like a right idiot, aren't you?
12:51We asked Amelia, since the start of your relationship with Matthew,
12:53have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else?
12:55She said no.
12:55Why did you say no?
12:56I was telling the truth.
12:57She was telling the truth, Matthew.
13:04I'm going to say this very calmly.
13:06No, she passed every single question.
13:09She got full hands.
13:13So, the lesson is, yes, when you have a brother or a sister and they're younger, you look out for
13:18them because you don't want them to be hurting.
13:20Yes, he's 18 and he's falling for it and just look at his neck, he's at it the whole time.
13:23I didn't do anything else.
13:25I bet you're glad you're sitting down, son, aren't you?
13:26Probably knackered.
13:27But here's the thing, get a job.
13:29Here's the thing, right?
13:31He has to make his mistakes.
13:32And if she turns out to be what you think, then it'll go wrong and he'll come to you.
13:35You've got to keep the door open.
13:36You've got to concentrate on your own business.
13:37Can we just get on with our lives?
13:38Are we happy?
13:39Yeah.
13:39Yeah, you can't wait to get back to the hotel, can you?
13:41You two that way, you two that way.
13:43Give him a round of applause, I'm done.
13:49Good afternoon, everyone.
13:50My next guest today, Dan, is frankly desperate to prove that he isn't a cheat.
13:53He says that whilst a girlfriend pages 21st birthday only last week, he was accused of kissing another woman and
13:59he's here to clear his name.
14:00He says these vicious rumours have literally destroyed his relationship with her and he's here to prove they're nothing but
14:04rubbish.
14:05Big day for this guy.
14:06Dan's on the Jeremy Carr show that way.
14:18How are you?
14:19Very well, thank you.
14:20How long have you been with Paige?
14:21About nine months.
14:22Well, the 14th of this month.
14:24In London, boys, they're right?
14:26Yes, London, that's correct.
14:27Good boy.
14:27Who do you sport?
14:28Charlton Athletic Football Club.
14:30Oh, dear.
14:32How do you meet Paige, then, son?
14:33We basically met in a place called Bexie Heath where we see one of our shopping centre through one of
14:39our friends.
14:39We obviously got together, met each other, introduced between them, went down a local bowling alley.
14:45I then made my move.
14:50Literally said, obviously, yeah, I made my move.
14:52You said that this girl changed your life.
14:54What do you mean by that?
14:55Like, a little while ago, like, in April, I was currently homeless, and I had obviously nowhere to go.
15:01I was constantly living, like, down alleyways, streets, behind Premier Inn.
15:06How did you get homeless?
15:08How did you get homeless?
15:10What happened?
15:10Literally, it was me getting involved with the wrong type of people.
15:13I was constantly on drugs, and obviously...
15:19It's not just us.
15:20I do have...
15:22I'll get to you in a minute, love.
15:24I do have a bit of a past.
15:25I used to cheat on other girlfriends.
15:26I was a massive flirt, but this girl is the one for me,
15:31and I would no more mess about than fly up a wall backwards.
15:35Yep, exactly.
15:3621st birthday party, what happened?
15:38Well, basically, we were outside.
15:40Who was?
15:41Me, Paige, and a couple of our friends.
15:43Okay.
15:43And obviously, I've known this girl for a while, our friend,
15:46and we're literally sitting there talking about her baby and her baby dad.
15:50Her baby daddy?
15:51Yeah, we're just obviously, like, talking, me giving advice sort of thing.
15:55Did that involve sticking your tongue down her throat?
15:57No, not at all.
15:57You didn't kiss.
15:58Why did people tell Paige that you did?
15:59I really don't know, because basically, what it was,
16:01was we had the massive argument.
16:02How many times do you say basically in one sentence?
16:04Too many times, too many times.
16:06Basically, you do. Carry on.
16:07Exactly.
16:08So, obviously, I then stormed off after the argument.
16:11I chucked my phone on the floor, which I broke.
16:12Did you?
16:13Then, obviously, pulled her to one side and was like,
16:15look, can we talk about this?
16:16Obviously.
16:16I haven't done what I've done.
16:18And, yeah, so...
16:19Basically, it's all gone wrong from there, yeah?
16:21Exactly.
16:21I started shouting, I walked up to the end of the road, and...
16:24So, we're exactly where we are, because basically...
16:27Yeah, basically.
16:28It's not going very well.
16:29No, not at all.
16:30But here's the twist.
16:31So, is this guy a liar?
16:34He says he'll pass the test 110%.
16:37Yep.
16:37Or the girlfriend who heard that you snogged somebody else on her party,
16:42is she, in fact, not making this up,
16:45but has she got a conscience because, and I quote,
16:49early on in the relationship, what happened?
16:51She had sex with her...
17:01She did cheat on him.
17:03Go!
17:04Go!
17:04Don't shout.
17:05You cheated on him, and that might be why you feel guilty and have a go at him.
17:09Don't shout at me.
17:11Paige!
17:12I didn't mean it.
17:13I didn't mean it, Paige.
17:15Paige, Paige, I'm only being honest and giving the facts.
17:19You cheated on him.
17:20Yeah, I cheated on him.
17:21Paige is on the Jeremy Kyle show that way.
17:29I didn't cheat on him, Jeremy.
17:31But do you know why I did?
17:32Because of my past, and the way everything, everyone told me he's a cheat.
17:36From the start, everyone was like, he's a cheat.
17:38You're not justifying that you cheated, are you?
17:40No, I'm in the role.
17:42I mean, you're up in arms.
17:43You're on the Jeremy Kyle show because you believe he kissed somebody.
17:45All I'm saying is, it might be because you're consumed with guilt
17:49because you had sex behind his back.
17:51That's all I'm saying.
17:53That's not amazing.
17:55At least I admit it.
17:56I told him the same day.
17:58You admitted it to him.
17:59When?
17:59I told him the same day.
18:00The next day, I told him...
18:01Well, then why wouldn't he have told you if he kissed someone?
18:03Why don't you believe him?
18:05Because he's a compulsory liar.
18:07And he's got a past.
18:08Hold on, hold on.
18:09I'm not sticking up for him.
18:11I'm just being honest.
18:12He's got a past, yeah?
18:13But he's a compulsory liar.
18:14So have you, haven't you?
18:15He's a compulsory liar.
18:16Well, why are you with him then?
18:18Because I love him.
18:19And he loves you.
18:19Talk to her.
18:21You know I do.
18:22You are literally my everything.
18:24Why would I cheat on you, especially on your 20 past?
18:28But the thing...
18:29You know you cheat it.
18:30You know you slept with someone the day you met him.
18:31That wasn't the only thing you did, was it?
18:34No.
18:35A few months into the relationship, you kissed somebody else, didn't you?
18:38Whoa!
18:40Well, I think you back there giving it large, love, until he's proven to either be a liar or telling
18:45the truth, is a bit rich, don't you?
18:47Come on, be honest.
18:49Well, yeah, but it's still not the point.
18:51We don't know yet, but you messed about twice.
18:55I was just trying to tell you the way he speaks to me.
18:57Why don't you stay with him then?
18:58It's not an excuse for what you did.
19:01Come on, Paige, you've got to be honest.
19:03It's not an excuse for that.
19:04All right, you know when you met him and that day you slept with somebody else?
19:07That was a mistake, yeah?
19:08Yeah, it was a mistake.
19:09Then why didn't you kiss somebody several weeks later?
19:14Because I was, I was, and everyone was like, apparently I kissed them when I pushed him away the first
19:20time.
19:21Come on, Paige, all I'm saying to you.
19:23But then when I got beaten up, do you remember when I was in the hospital, that **** of yours,
19:28you kissed him on the bus.
19:31While coming back to see me.
19:32I thought he was going to say, but.
19:35Come on, why did it?
19:36What, because he was filling you ear, saying Dan's cheating, Dan's doing this.
19:39I don't think so.
19:41Do you love Dan?
19:42Yes, I do love him.
19:43You just said he was a compulsive liar and you can't trust him.
19:45But I do love him.
19:46I'm sorry, a lot, I don't know, I could be, right, I'm going to be.
19:48People were close to me saying he's done it.
19:51I mean, if you don't like the way he talks to you and you don't like the way he is,
19:55then don't be with him.
19:56Don't try and justify what you've done.
19:58Tell him the truth as well.
19:59But you ruined my 21st.
20:00You absolutely ruined it.
20:02Did I?
20:02Okay.
20:02I wonder how he felt when he found out you'd slept with someone else, love.
20:05It's all about you, this story, isn't it?
20:07Come on, be fair, Paige.
20:09Paige, you've cheated on him twice, haven't you?
20:11Yes.
20:12I told you that.
20:12I really don't have cheated on him twice.
20:14Now, if he has, what happens?
20:16Are you going to forgive him because that's...
20:17Yeah, I said that.
20:18I've been saying that to your team all morning.
20:20I'm going to forgive him.
20:21So it doesn't matter, these results?
20:23Would it be better for you if he had cheated?
20:25Would it make you feel better?
20:26No, tell Jeremy what I said to you when I've done it.
20:29Go out and do it.
20:30Did I not?
20:30Did I not?
20:31Yes.
20:31You said...
20:32That makes you lovely.
20:33You said to me, I know, because I cheat on you, why don't you go out there, have some fun
20:38with another girl, then come back to me.
20:41That's close, sir.
20:41I'm not that long.
20:42Do you know what?
20:42You're not going to like this.
20:43This relationship is ridiculous, mate.
20:45That's just salving your conscience.
20:46You made a mistake.
20:47Put your hands in the air.
20:48If you want to be with the bloke, you want to be with him.
20:50And if you don't, then do one.
20:51That's it, isn't it?
20:53Right, I'm not going to turn around.
20:59How many people in this audience think that Dan is telling the truth and hasn't cheated?
21:10Or is he not what he appears to be?
21:14We asked Dan, since the start of your relationship with Paige, have you had sexual intercourse with
21:17anyone else?
21:18He said no.
21:18Why did you say no, Dan?
21:19He was telling the truth.
21:20Of course he was telling the truth.
21:30There's other things in the hotel.
21:31He passed every single question.
21:34Come on!
21:38Do you know what?
21:42She said down.
21:44He was like, he said to me.
21:47Why are you upset?
21:48You're doing my head in.
21:50I'll tell you why you're upset, shall I?
21:52Because it would have suited you more, love.
21:54Sorry if you don't like this, if he was a liar.
21:56Well, he's not a liar.
21:57So why don't you say sorry for what you did and stop making it about you.
22:02No.
22:02No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
22:04It's not about you.
22:05Why are you crying?
22:09Why are you crying?
22:13Stop.
22:15I do not understand.
22:16Excuse me.
22:16No, but in the hotel, he was like, he was like, well, all your family and this and that.
22:21He's been snagging my own family off to the brook.
22:23Yeah?
22:24What about sorry I cheated and thank God you didn't?
22:26What about stop making it about you and having a go at him?
22:28Why don't you just say, I'm sorry, we're done?
22:31I've already told you that.
22:33What did you say?
22:34What did you say to me in the hotel all the way through that made me react the way I
22:38was?
22:38Yeah?
22:39All through the four and a half train journey that I come because of you, because I love you,
22:43but all through the whole journey, constantly in my ear, you know you did it, you know you did it,
22:48you've done this, didn't you?
22:49But the thing is, Jeremy, when you go to the hotel, you keep saying, but forget them, he's passed the
22:55test.
22:55Why do they all lie to me?
22:56Because they're trying to split us up, as I said to you in the first place.
22:59And you're going to lose this bloke, do you want to know something?
23:01I really like this kid, he's made a mistake in the past, he said.
23:05I love you!
23:06I love you!
23:06So you should be.
23:07At the end of the day, I'm your boyfriend, yeah?
23:10The guy who loves you, you should believe me no matter what.
23:12Forget haters, this is me and your relationship.
23:16No one else's, no third party, me and you.
23:19I love this kid.
23:21Can I tell you something?
23:23Let me know.
23:25You know that so much of you is based on feeling guilty about what you did.
23:29You do, don't you?
23:30I do feel guilty.
23:31You are going to ruin this relationship if you start imagining that he's going to do to you what you've
23:36done to him.
23:36Listen to him when he says so much of what he's achieved and where he's got to is because of
23:41you.
23:41Stop making it about you.
23:43Ignore other people and trust your man, who I think is a top, top man.
23:46Give him a round of applause.
23:47Good luck.
23:50Good luck to them back after the break.
23:51Don't go anywhere.
23:52This is a 14-year marriage.
23:55There are kids.
23:56You look to me like somebody who is convinced you're about to find out that your husband's a chick.
24:01I'm only here to prove in the biggest stage possible that I love this woman to best.
24:12You mean nothing to me.
24:15Oh.
24:17Slingo Boone sponsors The Jeremy Kyle Show.
24:27My next guest today here for lie detector is Maria, who is utterly convinced her husband, Graham, is a cheat.
24:33Now, she claims their 14-year marriage started to go downhill three years ago when he, Graham, lost all interest.
24:38She says that his constant lying gives her no choice but to insist he takes a lie detector today.
24:42And she says, I've watched this program, Jez, but I'm in it.
24:45If this guy fails, I am walking away from this marriage.
24:48Maria is on The Jeremy Kyle Show that way.
24:56I feel terrified.
25:00Um, I have to say, it's easy.
25:02People have sat in the audience.
25:03I'm here.
25:04This is your life.
25:04You've been with this guy for a long time, married for 14 years.
25:08Yeah.
25:09You're 39, he's 34.
25:11You told my team, it was great up until three years ago.
25:14So, before three years ago, the relationship was nice?
25:16Yes.
25:17Kids?
25:17Yes, two.
25:18How did you meet?
25:20No, in the British Army.
25:22In the Army?
25:23Yes.
25:23Were you in the Army?
25:24Yes.
25:24And he was in the Army?
25:25Yes.
25:25Well, I'm destined to be nice to you.
25:26Give him a round of applause.
25:27Yeah, yeah, yeah.
25:32Literally, out the blue, three years ago,
25:34it changed.
25:35Let's talk about, do you remember that moment?
25:37Was there something that caused that?
25:38What do you think?
25:39He's just stopped going to work.
25:40He what?
25:41He stopped going to work.
25:42What, overnight, he stopped going to work?
25:44You know, he started drifting off that he wasn't going to work,
25:46and he'd come, he'd just stopped going to work.
25:48I know you're nervous.
25:49He'd suddenly call me names.
25:51He gives me zero affection.
25:53That's true.
25:53What, overnight?
25:54No, over the three years, it's just got less and less.
25:57He kept blaming me that I was doing, I wasn't,
26:01I wasn't giving him enough affection and stuff.
26:03So, no intimacy at all?
26:05Without, yeah, but not as often as you used to.
26:08Not as often as we used to?
26:09No.
26:10You weren't one of those, you know,
26:11Steve-like people who have it five times a day, no?
26:15No, I'm not.
26:16Well, honestly, old Stevie, 35 times a week,
26:18don't you, yes, you do.
26:20Yeah.
26:2335 times a week, Stevie P.
26:26Yeah.
26:27What?
26:27Excuse me a second.
26:28What did you say?
26:29What did you say?
26:31Nothing.
26:3235 times a year?
26:34No.
26:34She'll go mad?
26:35Yeah.
26:35It's 35, 35 times a year is quite good, isn't it?
26:38I didn't, I said five.
26:40Five times a year?
26:41No, I didn't.
26:42Yeah.
26:42Right.
26:43So, officially, I'm getting more than you, yeah?
26:45Yeah.
26:45Ha-ha!
26:46CHEERING
26:48APPLAUSE
26:50Nice.
26:50Anyway, practical story.
26:52I know it's difficult.
26:54Vile names.
26:54My question is, if he's not going to work, what's he doing?
26:59I mean, that was a very airy thing to say,
27:01suddenly he stops working.
27:02What's he doing?
27:03He was just staying at home,
27:04and then every job he got after that, he just lost.
27:07You tell my team, I'm 90% sure this guy has cheated.
27:09Why?
27:10Just because of his lies.
27:11What lies?
27:13He just tells little white lies all the time,
27:15that he hasn't been on Twitter, he hasn't been on this,
27:18and he lies, erm...
27:19Do you check on him?
27:21Yeah.
27:21What do you find?
27:22I do know.
27:22I just find he has been on...
27:24But I know, look, I know it's easy.
27:27People sit there, right,
27:28and they expect everybody to come out here and go...
27:31This is a 14-year marriage.
27:34There are kids.
27:34You look to me like somebody who is convinced
27:37you're about to find out that your husband's a cheat.
27:40I don't know at the minute.
27:42I don't know if that's the excuse I'm looking for,
27:44for the way he's been with me and the children.
27:46Would you forgive him if he cheated?
27:47No.
27:48A lot of people sit here and say that,
27:50and I always feel like saying,
27:50you don't have to say that,
27:51only say that if you mean that.
27:52But I'm told you do mean that.
27:54Yeah, I've lost my home.
27:56You've what?
27:56I've lost my home.
27:58Why?
28:02Finances.
28:05This guy, for your information,
28:07is not working.
28:08The house has been...
28:09He's working now, yeah.
28:10So you've lost your home.
28:11That's impacted.
28:12He left at Christmas, walked out.
28:15He left without his phone.
28:17Where do you think he went at Christmas?
28:18He said he went back to the hotel.
28:21But I went chasing him
28:22and told him to stop being silly and just come.
28:25Do you think you've been quite soft with this guy
28:29for how he's treated you over three years?
28:32Yeah.
28:33What's today about for you?
28:35I just want to know if he's been faithful.
28:38If he has been faithful,
28:40and interestingly, for your information here and at home,
28:42this guy's done a lie detector test three years ago,
28:45did a private one, nothing on this show,
28:46and he passed it.
28:47Is that right?
28:47An SR result.
28:48Oh?
28:49An NSR result.
28:50I don't know what that means, but anyway,
28:51I don't even really understand anything about this show,
28:53so I'm hardly likely to understand that.
28:55If he's passed before,
28:56why are you expecting him to do it again?
28:59Because of the result.
28:59I didn't get a pass or a fail.
29:01Oh, was it inconclusive?
29:02It was an NSR result.
29:04He's a guy who's not intimate,
29:05he's a guy who's not at work,
29:06well, he is now, but runs around,
29:08you think he's telling why it lies,
29:09the relationship's changed,
29:11the marriage is affected,
29:12and today you want the truth.
29:15If he has treated,
29:16I'm taking my kids and leaving him.
29:17I'm not being treated like an idiot.
29:19I'm done.
29:19We respect you for that.
29:20Graham, though, open mind,
29:21let me something, Jeremy Kastner, that way!
29:31What's going on, Gray?
29:32What's going on?
29:33Listen, for involving my heart,
29:35I'm on here to prove,
29:36in the biggest stage possible,
29:38that I love this woman to bits.
29:39Why'd you get you disappearing, then?
29:40She is my absolute world.
29:42I don't care if it's the Mariah Carey show,
29:44the Jeremy Kyle show,
29:45I don't really care.
29:47Hold on a minute, hold on a minute,
29:48you don't care if it's what?
29:50It can be the Mariah Carey show,
29:51the Jeremy Kastner show.
29:52The Mariah Carey show?
29:53All I want for, Chris.
29:56Bloody hell,
29:56you don't have to write a Carey show.
29:59I don't really care which show it is,
30:01it's the biggest possible stage
30:02that I can possibly...
30:03Well, the reason you're on the Jeremy Kyle show
30:05is it's the biggest possible stage.
30:07That's the whole point, isn't it?
30:12Well, let's do it.
30:14Three years ago,
30:15she says you change,
30:16you stop working,
30:16you make excuses,
30:17you were telling white lies.
30:18What's going on?
30:19I've just been an absolute...
30:21I've had my hands up to it.
30:22Why? How?
30:23How have you been at whatever you just said?
30:25I don't know,
30:25because obviously I've slept in,
30:26I've slept down for my work,
30:28I've got the sack,
30:29and the sack, and the sack.
30:30Why?
30:30I just don't...
30:31You were in the British Army,
30:32you knew about commitment,
30:33you knew about behaving in the right way,
30:34why'd you keep getting the sack?
30:35I don't know.
30:35Why are you shaking?
30:36Because I'm nervous.
30:38But you're in the army?
30:39Oh, no, I wasn't.
30:40You're hiding something?
30:40No.
30:41You cheated on her?
30:41No.
30:42You love this woman?
30:43Why'd you call her vile names then?
30:44Well, that doesn't make any sense to me.
30:45Then why'd you call her...
30:46I wouldn't have this in my arm.
30:47Oh, here we go.
30:48He's got a tattoo.
30:48That means he's well behaved then.
30:51Why'd you keep calling...
30:52What name?
30:52Come on, talk to me.
30:53What does he call you?
30:55Come on, stop doing that.
30:56Oh, I love you.
30:58Truth.
31:00What does he call you?
31:01Come on.
31:01What names did you call her?
31:02Oh, I've called her different things.
31:06Obviously, I don't like to be with you and stuff like that.
31:07That's stupidness.
31:08It's just an awe and temper,
31:10because I'm obviously...
31:11So I tell Maria I'm going to the bank,
31:12then I go to the bookies.
31:13Are you in debt?
31:14Is that the...
31:15No, no, no.
31:16I've been evicted from the house
31:17because I've lost jobs,
31:18because I was in...
31:19How does that feel as a man with kids and a wife?
31:21Broken-hearted.
31:22Devastated.
31:22Well, why don't you get out of the bookies
31:23and get to work?
31:24Because I'm going to work now.
31:25I'm in here to make a fresh...
31:26I've moved to Manchester from Scotland.
31:28I'm in here to make a fresh start
31:29and bring us up to the top,
31:31because that's...
31:31I can't...
31:32I'm at the bottom now.
31:32I can't go any lower.
31:33So what you're saying is,
31:34look, hands in the air.
31:35I've made mistakes.
31:35I've made mistakes.
31:36I'm honest and I've opened...
31:38Tell my team I'm 100%
31:39I've passed this lie detector test.
31:40When I do,
31:41these accusations have to stop.
31:42How bad are the accusations?
31:43It's just...
31:45It's not all the time.
31:46But do you understand them?
31:47Aye.
31:47I know why she should get that,
31:49because obviously,
31:50I've lied in the past,
31:51then I hold my hands up.
31:51I love Maria.
31:52She is my world.
31:53My family mean everything to me.
31:54I wouldn't ruin that.
31:54I'm going to pass the test.
31:56Interestingly,
31:57I know you're nervous,
31:58but you come out here
31:58and you say a little bit
31:59when and since he's come out,
32:01you've said nothing.
32:01You scared of him?
32:02No.
32:03Then why don't you say what you feel?
32:04Tell him.
32:04Tell him what you said to me
32:05about this test.
32:07Tell him.
32:08I want him to pass it.
32:10Tell him what you said to us
32:12if he doesn't.
32:12I'm leaving him.
32:13He knows that.
32:14I'm leaving him.
32:15Yeah, I know.
32:16I mean it, Greg.
32:17I know.
32:18I'm going to pass this, man.
32:19Should you do the results?
32:20I want us to get back up
32:21to the top where we belong.
32:23There's a song,
32:24and it's called
32:24Up Where We Belong.
32:25I will take you there.
32:27Up Where We Belong.
32:27What is?
32:27What is?
32:29Musical links?
32:30I mean...
32:30You're going to the Mariah Carey show
32:32where Jennifer Warrens
32:33and Bill Medley
32:33are singing Up Where We Belong.
32:35I love you
32:36for the bottom of my heart.
32:38Listen,
32:38I'll renew my vows
32:40if I pass this eye detector test.
32:42Do you believe him
32:43or is this a bit dramatic?
32:44Hello?
32:44Jeremy Coucher.
32:45I mean it.
32:45Not Mariah Carey.
32:46Do you...
32:48Do you believe him
32:49or is this all a bit of show?
32:51This morning,
32:52I looked at him
32:53over the breakfast table.
32:54Nice.
32:55And I thought...
32:56Why didn't I have sausage
32:57for breakfast?
32:59LAUGHTER
33:00Literally.
33:01APPLAUSE
33:05As you gazed at him
33:07over the cereal
33:08or whatever it was
33:09you were partaking of,
33:10what did you think?
33:11You're going to pass this.
33:12You do think that?
33:13How many people in the audience
33:14think that Graeme
33:14is going to pass this test?
33:15Put your hand in the air.
33:16Yeah?
33:17A majority of people
33:18think you're going to pass.
33:18You've had a hard time.
33:20She says that the marriage
33:21is on this.
33:21She says that today
33:22is massively important.
33:24You say that you will pass.
33:25We asked Graeme
33:26since the start
33:26of your relationship
33:27with Maria
33:27have you passionately kissed
33:28anyone else?
33:29She said no.
33:29Why did you say no, Graeme?
33:30I'm telling you, sir.
33:31This test says
33:31you're a liar, pal.
33:35Shame on you lot.
33:37No.
33:38Look at the face
33:39of your wife
33:40and no response from you.
33:41Since the start
33:42of your relationship,
33:43Maria,
33:44have you had sexual contact
33:45with anyone else?
33:46This test says you said no.
33:47This test says
33:47you're a liar, pal.
33:48LAUGHTER
33:51I take no joy at all.
33:52He failed every single question.
33:54LAUGHTER
34:00LAUGHTER
34:00Why is it?
34:00Why is it?
34:01Oh, here we go.
34:02The Kyle Olympics.
34:04Why is it when people fail?
34:05They go, what?
34:11Why did you fail it, Graeme?
34:13Let's cut to the chase, yeah?
34:14Let's cut to the chase.
34:15No, you see it.
34:16You failed every question.
34:17LAUGHTER
34:21Dallin, you all right?
34:21Come here.
34:22Come here, come here, come here, come here.
34:24You didn't pass the other one.
34:26I'm not talking about the other one.
34:27You failed this.
34:28Let's talk about this, pal.
34:30Why did you fail the test?
34:32I don't know, Jeremy.
34:33It's written all over your face.
34:34I'm not interested
34:35because people like you
34:36never admit the truth.
34:37You failed
34:38because you went in there
34:40and you lied about something.
34:41True or false?
34:42False, Jeremy.
34:43I told you a truth, man.
34:45Maria, come here.
34:56I hate this.
34:57I'm not running after him.
34:58Tell him his wife is in bits
35:00and he should get his backside back here.
35:13I'm sorry, sweetheart.
35:15I don't want...
35:15Listen, right.
35:16Do me a favour.
35:17Just do me a favour.
35:18I'm going to go and get him.
35:19You sit with Graham and Karen.
35:20I'm not doing this to you.
35:20Listen to me.
35:21Listen to me.
35:22That's absolutely spot on.
35:23Go and sit down and take a rest.
35:24Where is he?
35:25Oh, God.
35:26Why is it that people like that
35:27are supposed to be chased after?
35:29He's the guilty one.
35:30Why aren't you...
35:31Excuse my French.
35:32Why aren't you finding your wife?
35:34You're not running around after you.
35:35Get off your backside.
35:36Stop crying
35:37and go and tell her the truth.
35:38That it were people like you.
35:40Don't grow up there, pal.
35:41You're supposed to run around after him.
35:49I am not interested
35:50about anything in the past.
35:51I'm not interested
35:51about the other test.
35:52Get your backside
35:53and talk to your wife.
35:54The woman's in bits, pal.
35:58I'm sorry.
35:59I'm sorry for what?
36:01I don't know.
36:02You do?
36:03No, I don't.
36:03I swear to my...
36:04Sorry for what?
36:05I'm sorry if this test
36:06has come back and says I'm lying.
36:08Because you are lying, aren't you?
36:09I'm not lying.
36:09So nothing's happened with anybody.
36:11If you go into that test
36:12and you tell a lie,
36:13the test will make you out
36:14to be a liar.
36:16Something's happened, doesn't it?
36:17Darling, can you look at me, please?
36:18The only thing I can think of
36:19because it says
36:20from the start of the relationship,
36:22right, is...
36:22It says sexual.
36:23I know.
36:24Listen.
36:24Tell me, please,
36:25two seconds and listen to me.
36:26Tell me, it is good.
36:26Listen to me, please.
36:27Can you listen to me, please?
36:28You can give me that respect.
36:29Can you listen?
36:30I will.
36:30Can you listen to me, please?
36:31Tell me.
36:32And give me two seconds
36:32to explain myself.
36:34One, two.
36:35Who was it?
36:35The only thing
36:36that I can think of
36:37is in the...
36:38Remember the picture
36:39where the old boys...
36:41You only kissed her?
36:41My mates.
36:42Remember that?
36:43You only kissed her?
36:44That's the only thing
36:45I can think of.
36:45You only kissed her?
36:46Well, I swear that's...
36:48I swear to God
36:49that's the only thing
36:49I could think of.
36:50Maria, can I be really honest?
36:51I don't...
36:52Actually, you're joking apart.
36:53I don't ever want anybody
36:55to say,
36:56that's that.
36:57It's over.
36:58You have to think about it.
36:59We provide, as you know,
37:00an aftercare service
37:01that says you can sit down
37:02and take your time.
37:04You are a liar.
37:06And you,
37:07and I get it,
37:08have spent an awful long time
37:09with concerns.
37:10You've spent an awful long time
37:12probably with demons
37:13in your head
37:14but batting them away.
37:15Your reaction
37:16was a totally genuine reaction
37:17but I also fear
37:18that this guy
37:19could wrap you
37:21wrap you right round
37:22his little finger
37:23in a heartbeat.
37:24You...
37:25Why didn't you tell the truth
37:26then about the woman
37:27you snogged
37:27when you went to the test?
37:28Why'd you lie?
37:29I don't even know her.
37:30I swear to God,
37:33I don't know...
37:33You just came up
37:34with somebody,
37:35didn't you?
37:35You just said.
37:36She knows about that.
37:37Why did she change
37:38three years ago?
37:39Because you're getting it elsewhere?
37:40No, no, no.
37:42Right.
37:42No.
37:43What happened?
37:43What was that definitive moment
37:45when you suddenly started
37:46losing your jobs
37:46and you suddenly started
37:47insulting your wife
37:48and you suddenly started
37:49not being the man
37:50you're supposed to be?
37:51Because I think
37:52you're a self-pitying git
37:53if you want me to be honest.
37:54Well, I see you
37:55what I've made.
37:56I get you.
37:57You won, yeah?
37:59How are the results?
38:00Are they on the stage somewhere?
38:02Thanks.
38:07Intercourse with anybody else?
38:08I've won.
38:09I've won.
38:10Just like with anybody else.
38:11You're a liar.
38:12Look at him.
38:13You're a liar.
38:13You've made me lose my...
38:16Oh.
38:19Maria, what happens?
38:21I don't want to know him.
38:22I want to go get my daughter.
38:27What I'm going to say to you
38:31is there's a woman who...
38:33Somebody said to me earlier...
38:34Let me tell you what a married woman
38:35said to me earlier
38:36who works for us.
38:37She said,
38:38strangely,
38:38people can,
38:39married women,
38:40women, men,
38:41but they can forgive cheating sometimes.
38:43What they can't abide
38:45is the lying.
38:46This woman has had a lot of people
38:48in her ear, Graham,
38:49for a long time saying,
38:50he's no good,
38:51he won't hold down a job,
38:52he's not intimate with you,
38:53he doesn't provide,
38:55he insults you,
38:56be rid,
38:56he's definitely a cheat.
38:57And she has put her neck on the line
38:58again and again.
39:00She and her kids have lost their own
39:01because you're so self-obsessed
39:03and so self-pitying,
39:04you couldn't go to work to provide.
39:05Now she's on national television
39:07and it turns out
39:08that you're a liar as well.
39:09I'd be on my knees
39:10saying to Graham,
39:11can we sit and talk about this?
39:12But people like you,
39:13do you know why?
39:14She would,
39:15maybe she'll walk away,
39:15maybe she won't.
39:17Man up and tell her the truth.
39:18Please,
39:18can I talk about this
39:19and save my marriage,
39:20please?
39:21I'm begging you
39:22from the...
39:22Yeah,
39:22just one thing,
39:23mate,
39:23one thing.
39:24I'll give you an opportunity
39:24to talk to her.
39:25Yeah,
39:25you will,
39:25but one thing,
39:26make sure you tell her the truth.
39:27I wish you the best of luck
39:28and certainly her.
39:30We'll see what Graham can do,
39:31we'll let you know
39:31after the break.
39:32More from the JK Show.
39:33We're right back.
39:33Don't go anywhere.
39:34I would not cheat on you.
39:36You know that.
39:38You look as guilty as sin, sir.
39:41I'm not guilty.
39:42I am not guilty.
39:44You sure about that?
39:45Yeah.
39:57Welcome back
39:58to this Lie Detector special.
39:59Now,
39:59our next guest today,
40:00Sandra,
40:00is here to find out
40:01if her husband,
40:02David,
40:02has been working late
40:03as a cleaner
40:04or having sex
40:04with other women.
40:06She's here for Lie Detector results.
40:08The big question,
40:08will a professional cleaner
40:09husband pass
40:10or has he been doing the dirty?
40:11Who wrote this now?
40:13It is very easy for us.
40:14We do it every day
40:15for you and the audience
40:16who should be at work
40:17and are too lazy to do so
40:18or people at home,
40:19but for a lot of people
40:20that come on this show,
40:21it's nerve-wracking.
40:21Sandra is,
40:22by her own admissions,
40:23lacking in self-confidence
40:24and it is a huge day for her.
40:26Give her a round of applause,
40:26guys.
40:30You're OK?
40:31Hi, Jamie.
40:32Are you all right?
40:33I don't know.
40:34How long have you been doing,
40:34David?
40:35Well,
40:36we've been married nine years
40:37and we've been together
40:38before that.
40:39You said to my team,
40:40he goes to work,
40:41I believe he's cheating,
40:43he comes home late,
40:44it doesn't add up.
40:45A lot of people
40:46that come on this show
40:47can come with real proof.
40:49Others just say,
40:50it's a feeling in my gut.
40:51Yeah.
40:52What would happen
40:53if this guy has failed?
40:54If you fail,
40:55you work at it,
40:56you don't say,
40:57right,
40:57enough's enough,
40:58you go your way
40:59and I'll go mine.
41:00Absolutely,
41:00you're right.
41:01You both sit there,
41:02get some help
41:03and you work at it
41:04and you take it.
41:05No,
41:08but do you know,
41:08do you know why I like that?
41:10Because on so many occasions
41:12I'll say,
41:13you know,
41:13and people go,
41:13right,
41:14I'm going
41:14and then they go home together.
41:15I think you're being real.
41:17You say,
41:17deep down,
41:18I know he cares,
41:18I want reassurance,
41:19I think it's all in my head,
41:20I want my confidence.
41:21This has knocked your self-confidence.
41:22Yes.
41:23All right,
41:23we're going to go,
41:23you stay there,
41:24give her a round of applause,
41:25we'll get the husband out.
41:26Give her a round of applause.
41:27Right,
41:27right,
41:28right,
41:28right,
41:28Dave is on the Jeremy Carl show,
41:30give him a round of applause.
41:31Dave,
41:31that was a forceful,
41:41why are you sitting there?
41:42I said sit there.
41:43I'm sorry,
41:43halfway.
41:44Welcome to the show,
41:44Dave,
41:44it's your eye,
41:45I've been with Sarah for six years.
41:46She has,
41:47by your admission,
41:48serious issues with self-confidence.
41:51I respect the fact that she's even here.
41:53She apparently spends her entire life believing and thinking that you're sleeping with other
41:57women.
41:57Why?
41:59Because I go at my mates after work and that.
42:01If she phones me up,
42:02she usually hears females' voices in the background,
42:05and that's it.
42:06From there,
42:06it's like all hell breaks loose.
42:08What do you do?
42:09What job?
42:10I'm a cleaner.
42:11We're a bigger...
42:12Do you work late,
42:13do you?
42:14Well,
42:14sometimes,
42:15yeah.
42:15I work late,
42:15overtime sometimes.
42:17Now,
42:17you admit that your sex life has gone down ill?
42:21Yeah,
42:21since I've,
42:22um,
42:23attracted the CPD,
42:25which is a...
42:27C-O-P-D?
42:27Yeah,
42:28C-O-P-D.
42:29Yeah.
42:29Yes?
42:29That means I've got,
42:30um,
42:31my lung collapsed on me two years ago,
42:32so I was supposed to be giving up smoking and that,
42:35but at the moment,
42:35I can't.
42:36So,
42:36you haven't given up smoking,
42:37you've given up sex?
42:39Well,
42:40basically,
42:40yes.
42:42This isn't a medical show,
42:43but you've got that round the wrong way.
42:44Yeah,
42:44I know it sounds stupid.
42:46I'll tell you what I don't understand,
42:47and I'm not in any way decrying what you've said.
42:50You managed to go out to work and work as a cleaner,
42:54but you can't make love to your wife.
42:56Yeah,
42:56I was,
42:57I was scared because of the disease I've got.
42:59What about when you're scrubbing floors?
43:01I mean,
43:01what's the difference to,
43:02why am I doing that?
43:03But I mean...
43:03I'm not,
43:04I'm not scrubbing floors though,
43:05you see.
43:05Right.
43:05I work out...
43:06But you could cuddly,
43:07I don't know,
43:07what is this,
43:07you could cuddly your wife,
43:09you could be intimate without all of the other shenanigans,
43:12that's so much effort,
43:13really.
43:13Why can't you just be...
43:15She says,
43:16I want reassurance.
43:17I might think it's all in my head,
43:19but the guy just doesn't treat me,
43:23react to me like he used to.
43:26Who's the idea to come here?
43:27Saunders.
43:31I want to say something to you,
43:32because I want to go and do it through there,
43:33because I want to respect the fact that she's nervous.
43:35You know,
43:36because you've heard her say already,
43:37that even if you fail this lie detector,
43:38she'll have you back,
43:39so that probably means you can get away with it,
43:40doesn't it?
43:41Yeah,
43:41but this lie detector test will prove to her
43:44that I'm not cheating on her.
43:45Not at all?
43:46Not at all.
43:46I've never cheated on her.
43:48I'm here to prove my innocence,
43:49I will pass this test 100%.
43:51Come on,
43:51let's do it through here,
43:52actually,
43:52let's do that,
43:52that's all right,
43:53we'll bring the cameras this way.
43:54You all right?
43:54Yep,
43:55one for me.
43:55New carpet,
43:55don't mess it up,
43:56it's very expensive.
43:57Do you want to...
43:59Oh,
43:59hello.
44:00You sit there.
44:03Tell him what this relationship means to you,
44:05on how you feel right now,
44:06in your own words,
44:07sweetheart.
44:08Basically,
44:08I feel annoyed with myself for doing this,
44:11and I would like some help,
44:13because at the end of the day,
44:14I've got no confidence,
44:15no self-esteem,
44:16no nothing.
44:18Like,
44:18he can go out to her,
44:20go out.
44:20Can I say something,
44:21by the way,
44:21I think you're brilliant.
44:22Why do you look so nervous?
44:23I'll stay at home.
44:24He looks nervous.
44:26I'll stay at home,
44:27doing nothing,
44:28because I've got no confidence,
44:29nothing,
44:30in myself anymore.
44:32Because,
44:32I don't know what to do,
44:33basically.
44:34I go to college,
44:35I,
44:36a few weeks ago...
44:36Sorry,
44:36hold on a second.
44:38You look as guilty as sin,
44:40sir.
44:40I am not guilty.
44:43You sure about that?
44:44Yeah.
44:44Have the results,
44:45please,
44:45Will.
44:48You've got to get out,
44:49Clause,
44:49haven't you?
44:50She'll forgive you.
44:52No,
44:52but I'm here.
44:53I am,
44:54the only result,
44:54I'll come onto the show,
44:55I'll tell you what,
44:56is I to do the ride,
44:57to take the test.
44:57Yeah,
44:57I've got the results,
44:58that makes sense.
44:59I haven't been cheating on her,
45:01but I'm here for her,
45:02to support her,
45:03in whatever she wants me to do.
45:04He failed every single question,
45:05including sexual intercourse.
45:09That's...
45:09No,
45:10it's not.
45:11No,
45:12it's not at all,
45:12mate,
45:12because she started blinking like anything.
45:14I absolutely know that isn't what you say.
45:16Now,
45:16tell your wife the truth,
45:17because she's a decent,
45:18nice person,
45:18who's gone through hell to be here,
45:20who sits at home with no self-confidence,
45:22believes it's her,
45:23and the truth is,
45:24you know as well as I do,
45:25that something's gone on.
45:26So have the decency,
45:27to tell this really nice,
45:28upset woman the truth.
45:30Go on.
45:31Saja,
45:32you know me,
45:33you know what I'm like.
45:35Yeah?
45:35Yeah.
45:36I would not cheat on you.
45:38You know that.
45:40Do you know what it is,
45:41for me?
45:42It's not even the cheating,
45:43it's the fact that this woman,
45:44you know,
45:45it is difficult sometimes,
45:46the words that we're supposed to use on this show.
45:48Lacking in self-confidence,
45:49feeling a bit vulnerable,
45:50done so well to be here today.
45:51I don't care,
45:53really,
45:54right,
45:54if you two stay together,
45:55I hope you can get the help and everything,
45:57but you know what you should do,
45:58as a decent human being,
45:59is tell the truth,
45:59because you are lying through your teeth,
46:01whatever you say.
46:02I am not lying through my teeth.
46:03No,
46:03I'm not.
46:04I'm not.
46:07If you want me to,
46:08I will.
46:09Have a go then.
46:10All right.
46:10I have not been cheating on her.
46:12I go out with my workmates,
46:13right?
46:13I've got people that...
46:14Nobody believes you,
46:15pal.
46:15Nobody believes you.
46:17No,
46:17of course you don't,
46:18because your wife will forgive you,
46:19won't she,
46:19because she's a decent,
46:20nice person who seemingly believes
46:22that you're the best she can do.
46:24If it was down to me,
46:25I'd convince her that she should be on her own
46:26and could do a lot better,
46:27but you should tell her the truth,
46:29and you won't.
46:29I have to tell her the truth.
46:30I have to tell her the truth.
46:32All right then,
46:32Toby.
46:33What about you then?
46:35Oh, now you're going to have a go at me.
46:36What about you?
46:37No, but I was just saying it.
46:38This is brilliant, isn't it?
46:39And that,
46:40and do you know what?
46:41And shall I say this?
46:42Shall I say this?
46:43Go on.
46:43I'm going to say this,
46:44because I think you're all right
46:45and I'll be nice to you.
46:45That is exactly why
46:47you will stay with him
46:48and he will do it again,
46:49and I wish you the best of luck.
46:51I will not do it again.
46:51Oh, so you've done it before then?
46:52No, I have not done it.
46:54It's the way you're calling it over.
46:55I have done it.
46:56So this test is not right?
46:58I'm not saying it's not right,
47:00but I know it's wrong.
47:01So you don't worry about that.
47:03We will sit and we will talk,
47:05but you don't need to turn it on me, darling.
47:07Here's a woman who says,
47:08I lack in self-confidence
47:09because I sit at home,
47:10I don't know what he's up to.
47:11The reason you don't know what he's up to is,
47:13it's not in your head.
47:14It's there on paper.
47:16He is the person who needs to explain.
47:18He is the person who needs to make an effort.
47:19And you deserve to be treated differently.
47:22I do not for one moment...
47:24Hold on one second.
47:25I do not for one moment.
47:26You heard me at the beginning.
47:28I respect the fact that you say
47:29that it's been long enough
47:30that even if he has messed around,
47:32we'll talk about it
47:33because too many people go,
47:34oh, we're gone,
47:35and then they don't go, right?
47:36So that's good.
47:37So don't have a go at me.
47:37But what you need to do with our help
47:39is make sure this man tells you the truth.
47:42If he's made a mistake,
47:43faces up to it,
47:44you talk about it and you move forward.
47:46You don't hide behind,
47:47I don't have to accept this
47:48because my wife's so easy,
47:50I can walk all over her.
47:51That's all I'm saying, all right?
47:52I'm out of time for this morning.
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47:58Thanks for watching.
47:59We'll see you soon.
48:00Take care, everybody.
48:00For now.
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