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00:00On today's show...
00:01He's been with me Phyllis Marcia girl at the start of January
00:05and he's been sleeping with me behind his back.
00:07He even comes down to me on his knees, right, going, give me a...
00:11I was 18, right, and I trusted him to pop my cherry,
00:15so I've still got feelings for him.
00:21Have you had sex with her? No.
00:23She's done a lie detector to prove that, in fact, you have slept with her.
00:27F*** you lot!
00:31You shouldn't be here! You've no right to be here!
00:34I'm a victim here! You're coming like a model!
00:37She's a model and I need to perform! Go around the country!
00:40Well, it's maybe 1,200, and then it's 1,500, and then it's 1,100.
00:44I'm not too sure how much, but it was taken from her bag.
00:48Since the mother got the voodoo doll, that's the senior Mary,
00:51what's happened to her?
00:53She's got six stitches on the side of her foreheads.
00:56Did you do a poo in her fridge? She did, yeah, she did.
00:58Did you steal the money? I did, well, certainly not.
01:01You can't accuse people of the wrong, you can't do that!
01:04It's unbelievable!
01:06You had sex with somebody else? I did, yeah.
01:08And you told him? Yeah, I did.
01:09How many times did you sleep with the bloke?
01:11Twice.
01:12Did you know it was twice?
01:24Nice to see you!
01:25Nice to see you!
01:28You all right?
01:29Nice to see you, my darling!
01:30You all right?
01:32Thank you, my friends.
01:33Good morning!
01:34It is ever a big, big welcome to a lie detector special today.
01:37Now, my first guest, Heather, is here to prove that she has slept,
01:41check this, with ex-David since they split up.
01:44So, she's here saying, we split up, but we're still having sex.
01:46She says that David left her four weeks ago for another woman,
01:49but has been running back and forth between the two of them the entire time.
01:52She says that David even had sex with her the day after he proposed to his girlfriend.
01:58Today, she's here to give David an ultimatum.
02:00It's your fiancé on me, mate.
02:02Make your mind up.
02:03Heather's on the Jeremy Kyle Show that way!
02:13I'm not lying.
02:14Have you got any morality?
02:15He's a bit of a d***, basically.
02:18You'll stop sleeping with him, then.
02:19Well, yeah, he's a player, right?
02:21How long were you, Heather, with David?
02:23I've been on enough for four years with him.
02:25I've known him since I was 18.
02:26I was on enough with him and, basically,
02:28got back with him in last September.
02:30He spilled with me for this morning.
02:31I see a girl at the start of January.
02:34And he's been sleeping with me behind his back.
02:36He even comes down to me on his knees, right, going,
02:39give me a d***.
02:41Oh, she won't give me a d***.
02:45Literally, no lie.
02:49So, you have been on and off with him,
02:52but last September, you got it back on.
02:55You say that everything was good until a few weeks ago
02:59when he dumped you for Marcia, who can't actually be here today.
03:02But you say that, despite the fact that he's with Marcia,
03:05you have that low opinion of yourself
03:07that you allow him to come back and have sex with you.
03:10He manipulates me as well.
03:11He doesn't manipulate you.
03:12Why don't you allow it to happen?
03:13Why don't you tell him to sling his hook and stay with his new bird?
03:17Why are you sleeping with him?
03:19I'm being serious.
03:21Here, man.
03:23Nasty.
03:24Is that him?
03:25Yes.
03:30He's got two women on the go.
03:32Yes.
03:33Well, wait for it, right?
03:34I'm not in the blimmy Sahara Desert here.
03:36What?
03:36The reason, right, I keep doing it is because basically, yes.
03:40Stop saying basically.
03:41I was 18, right, and I trusted him to pop my cherry,
03:45so I've still got feelings for him.
03:52So we, please, people, we surmise from that,
03:56because he popped your cherry in your very elegant phraseology,
04:01that you have feelings for him because he was your first.
04:03Yes.
04:04Now, you run the risk, my dear,
04:07of being accused of, well, devaluing yourself and playing games
04:13because surely if you love somebody and they don't want to be with you,
04:18you don't, when he clicks his fingers, have a relationship with him,
04:22you say, I'm better than that.
04:24It's either me or her.
04:25I'm not going to be your play thing.
04:27The thing that worries me about you is you look almost pleased
04:30to be sleeping with him behind her back.
04:32No, what it is is I've told him for the last three weeks, yeah,
04:35right, because he kept going in front of me, right, to my face, right,
04:39and to Luke, his friend, turning around and going, yeah,
04:42oh, right, I love you, right, I've got feelings for this,
04:45and I turn around and go, you know what, stop chatting.
04:47Let me move on with my life.
04:49I'll wipe your hands with me, right, and I'll get on.
04:51Tell my team I can't move on.
04:52This guy controls me, he knows what buttons to press.
04:55That's great, isn't it?
04:56Literally, he won't let me.
04:57I've turned around and he won't let me.
04:58If I move on with the next lad,
05:00he's on about smashing this boy's face in,
05:02his fiancé, right, when I turned around and told her straight, yeah,
05:05that you're cheating on her, he turned around and he lied to her face,
05:08but then what it is is he's going, oh, no, I ain't done nothing,
05:12I ain't done nothing, she's lying, she's lying.
05:13So when did you last have sex with him?
05:16Uh, yesterday morning we did a ****.
05:23Um, you told my team that, that, that this surprises you,
05:27that you, you're, you fall for him because he's not that good?
05:30Yeah.
05:31I'll state one thing, yeah.
05:33I've had a, I've had better pleasure off someone else than him.
05:37Why do you keep sleeping with him then?
05:40I have no idea.
05:45You give everything to this bloat, don't you?
05:47Not just that.
05:49Everything, yeah, basically.
05:50You benefit money.
05:50Money is, is, my money got, because I was with him back in the, uh...
05:54Shush!
05:54You've talked about that, but why don't you wise up
05:56and think he's a waste of space and stop falling?
05:59The thing is, you're giving him exactly what he wants
06:01and you've now got yourself in a position where, apparently,
06:03does he want her, does he want me?
06:05Why don't you say, I'm better than that?
06:06Why do you keep falling for it?
06:08I have no idea.
06:09It's...
06:10I mean, if you say that, but you say he's rubbish in bed,
06:14he hasn't got the best equipment, he's a lying two-faced toe rag.
06:17Before we got taken off him, before his car got taken off him,
06:20he's denying that I got dared by his friend Luke in the car
06:24to give him a...
06:24and Luke can say I gave a...
06:26and he snubbed my face off.
06:29You look pleased to have performed whatever it was.
06:32The problem is as well, right?
06:34What car was it?
06:36Be quiet.
06:36An Astra.
06:37An Astra.
06:40And...
06:40So, you're doing a lie...
06:42I don't...
06:43I worry about your motives, but there you go.
06:45You're doing a lie detector on the Jeremy Kyle show
06:47to prove that this man you've been on and off with for four years
06:50who, in your own words, took your virginity.
06:52How did you describe that again?
06:54.
07:01It's like, it's that bad?
07:03Right?
07:04Despite the fact that he's no good in the sack, or in the Astra,
07:10you still keep going back for more, and today you're going to do a lie detector to prove to his
07:15fiancee that you have indeed been doing whatever in or outside a car in the four weeks, 28 days since
07:23he met Marcy, who he's now engaged to.
07:25Yes.
07:26Yes.
07:26Do you have any respect for yourself at all?
07:28I do.
07:29Well, stop sleeping with him, then!
07:35At the end of the day it's true, right?
07:37You can sit here and you can prove this or that.
07:39You're saying very simply, you can be engaged to somebody else, but I love you.
07:44I want you.
07:45You can abuse me.
07:46I don't...
07:46Well then, tell him!
07:47I tell him, I can't.
07:48David?
07:48David?
07:49Him?
07:50Right?
07:51He's got...
07:52How many women's he got on the go?
07:54I've lost count.
07:55David's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way.
08:09Can you please, seriously, I have to do this for a living.
08:12Can you be quiet?
08:14Are you kidding me?
08:17Are you sleeping with her?
08:18No.
08:21Really?
08:22Really?
08:22I've got a fiancee.
08:24Why would I need to...
08:24How long have you known Marvellous Marcia?
08:27I've been with David six weeks, says Marcia, who's not here.
08:31And Heather has been nothing but trouble.
08:33She's trying to split us up.
08:35I don't believe a word the woman says.
08:37Me and David, correct English is David and I, but we won't be bothered, are happy.
08:41And Heather needs to leave us alone.
08:43So you're happy with Marcia.
08:45This is all made up.
08:46She says you've been sleeping with her behind Marcia's back.
08:50No, I haven't.
08:51All right then, David, so you're telling me, right,
08:53Luke didn't dare me to give you a...
08:56last week and you didn't snag my face up in the car.
08:58No.
08:59Shall we get Jeremy Cole to ask Luke?
09:01No.
09:02Where's Luke?
09:03Anyway.
09:04Where's Luke?
09:04Oh, were you in the car?
09:06Yes I was.
09:07Was that the Astra?
09:08Yes.
09:08Well it was.
09:10Me and David was in the car first and obviously Heather come to the car.
09:13She got in the car.
09:13Obviously.
09:14And she gave David a...
09:18No, she'd never leave.
09:19What a lie are you going for?
09:20Have you had sex with her?
09:22No.
09:22Well strangely enough, pass the camera this way, Trey.
09:25She's done a lie detector to prove that in fact you have slept with her.
09:29Have she?
09:29Well if that's the best...
09:30Have I slept with her?
09:31Really?
09:31Well why did you...
09:33Oi Gobby, why did you refuse to do a lie detector then?
09:37No.
09:37I didn't want to do one.
09:38Why didn't you want to do one?
09:40I have to do one.
09:40Because it's going to find you out to be a liar.
09:42No.
09:42Well guess what?
09:43Guess what?
09:44I have to do one.
09:45I don't have to do one.
09:46Okay fine but guess what?
09:48If she's telling the truth it's going to say that you're a liar anyway so you won't win.
09:51We're back with the results next.
09:53Don't go anywhere.
09:54I'm really struggling to work out how anybody would sleep with you let alone two women.
09:58That's my problem.
10:00We asked Heather in the last two weeks if you passionately kissed David.
10:03You said yes.
10:04Why did you say yes?
10:06Did you accuse her husband of having a poop in your fridge?
10:09No I did not.
10:11She did not.
10:11She did not.
10:12She did a poop in the fridge.
10:14Give me a little detector test and I'll prove it.
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10:55Before the break we met Heather who says she's been on and off with David the love god for four
10:59years.
10:59They argued quite a lot.
11:01She lost her virginity to David didn't you?
11:03You popped her.
11:04What was it again?
11:05My cherry.
11:06Marvellous.
11:07Anyway just to fulfil you completely with the story.
11:09They got back together seriously in September but four weeks ago you decided to leave her and you got together
11:14with Marthia.
11:15Why did I say it like that?
11:16Marcia.
11:17Who you're engaged to.
11:18Marcia is the love of your life.
11:20Yes?
11:20Yeah.
11:2028 days.
11:21Love of your life.
11:23Anyway, Heather says for some unknown reason I'm coming to the Jeremy Kyle show today to prove that I've still
11:29been sleeping with Heather.
11:30You say absolutely not.
11:32She's a fruit loop mate.
11:33She won't leave me alone.
11:34Yes?
11:35She won't leave me alone?
11:35But you won't do a lie detector but she has.
11:38I don't have to do one.
11:39So work it out Dumbo.
11:40If she's telling the truth.
11:42I don't know.
11:43What did you say?
11:43I said I don't know.
11:45I'm really struggling to work out how anybody would sleep with you let alone two women.
11:49That's my problem.
11:51I don't understand.
11:53What is wrong with you?
11:55What's wrong with you?
11:56What?
11:56I don't believe in plenty I should imagine.
11:59If you're getting lots and I'm getting none.
12:01Can I have the results?
12:02You did a lie detector because you say you're telling the truth.
12:05She passes.
12:06You're a liar aren't you?
12:07I don't know.
12:07We asked Heather in the last two weeks have you passionately kissed David.
12:11Whether it was in an Astra or not.
12:12You said yes.
12:13Why did you say yes?
12:14Because I was telling the truth.
12:15Of course she was telling the truth David.
12:20In the last two weeks you had sexual contact with David.
12:24You said yes she was telling the truth.
12:28And in the last two weeks you've had sexual intercourse with David.
12:32She said yes.
12:33I don't understand your motives but she was telling the truth throughout the test.
12:37Whatever.
12:39Whatever.
12:40Whatever.
12:42What?
12:43Whatever.
12:44All right and hang on.
12:44Is that a lie away there?
12:46Well that's you and Marcia ruined isn't it?
12:48Right I'm just saying one thing hang on.
12:49What do you mean not really?
12:51Don't you want to be with Marcia?
12:52Yeah of course I do.
12:53Well she's going to find out you're a cheat.
12:54What is she really?
12:56F*** you lot.
12:57That's it.
13:01Who are you?
13:03I'm a friend of David.
13:04What's your nails love?
13:05There you go.
13:08What's your nails love?
13:09There you go.
13:10What's your nails love?
13:10There you go.
13:11Me close the f***ing.
13:12I'll go.
13:14Sorry.
13:15Hold on a minute.
13:15Hold on a minute.
13:15You're a f***er but you failed the test.
13:18You can go away as well.
13:19F***.
13:20No you did.
13:21What's the way?
13:22Leave me alone.
13:24Go and do what to myself?
13:27F***.
13:28F***.
13:28Do you want to give me chlamydia?
13:30Who's the one that gave me mouth?
13:32How did you do want to pass it on to me?
13:33How the f*** did I know I had it?
13:35You've got chlamydia?
13:36But you just said you hadn't been sleeping with her you idiot.
13:39When I was with her at the beginning.
13:41When I was with her at the beginning.
13:42Yeah she passed it on to me.
13:43Then I ended up passing it on to someone else.
13:45Yeah.
13:46Without me knowing I had it.
13:47You're really disgusting aren't you?
13:49Yeah.
13:49She's the one that's been f***ing with her.
13:50You've been f***ing with her.
13:52Really?
13:53It's proof?
13:54Don't shove that way the s***.
13:55Shouldn't I?
13:57Don't wash me and you know what?
13:59Get out of the way.
13:59You're a r*** aren't you?
14:01Oh.
14:01Put your trousers up you f***ing ridiculous.
14:04By the way.
14:05Hello Marcia.
14:06I have this.
14:09Could I point something out before I have a breakdown, right?
14:13There's nothing good, right, in any way...
14:17Oi! What?
14:19Get out of my building and keep your trousers on in future.
14:23Do one!
14:24Think about it like this.
14:26You've gone on television, you've proven to your ex his new bird
14:30that you're sleeping with him.
14:30Think about dignity, love.
14:33Move on. Stop giving yourself up so readily.
14:37It's like, you know, it's tight.
14:40Seriously, do me a favour.
14:42Move on from him and stop giving yourself so easily.
14:45Do you know what this show's doing to me, Graham?
14:46I'm going upstairs now to lie down.
14:48Bye-bye or whatever, see you later.
14:53I really am beginning to lose the will to live.
14:55So that girl comes on the Jeremy Kyle show
14:57to prove to the new girlfriend of her ex
14:59that she's still sleeping with him.
15:00And I say to her, listen, get some dignity and do it.
15:02And all I can think about is how did he get two women?
15:04And we'll let you know.
15:05And my next guest today, Kathleen, is on this show
15:07to prove to Auntie Eileen...
15:09Come on, Eileen.
15:10..that she's not stolen from.
15:11And Kathleen says that since she was a child
15:13she's always thought that Eileen was strange
15:15but it got stranger when Eileen recently sent a voodoo doll
15:18through the post cursing the entire family.
15:20Kathleen's here to prove she's not taken any money.
15:23And then she says,
15:23I want my auntie out of my life for good.
15:27Keep up, my friends.
15:28Kathleen's on the Jeremy Kyle show.
15:30APPLAUSE
15:39I'm going in the back room without you.
15:41Right?
15:42You shouldn't be here.
15:43You've no right to being here.
15:44I'm the victim here.
15:46You're coming like a model.
15:47She's modeling her on the phone.
15:49Going around the cursing.
15:50And she's standing down.
15:51I'm not even raining.
15:53LAUGHTER
15:57Oh, my God.
16:00Have a good look at her, love.
16:02She's lovely, isn't she?
16:05APPLAUSE
16:10Who was that?
16:12Erm, that's me crazy aunt.
16:14That was Aunty Eileen?
16:15Yeah.
16:16Come on, I...
16:16No, don't.
16:17Stay there.
16:18How are you?
16:19All right, thanks.
16:20Welcome to the show.
16:21You're glad to be here, aren't you?
16:22Yeah.
16:22I haven't got a clue what's going on,
16:24but we're going to try and make sense.
16:26You're 34.
16:27Yeah, that's right.
16:27Well done.
16:28Erm, I've always...
16:30Be quiet!
16:36That's your auntie.
16:37Yeah.
16:37Your mother's sister.
16:39Unfortunately, yeah.
16:40Right.
16:41Apparently, she has been...
16:43Well, tell us about the money.
16:44Tell us about why we're here,
16:46and then we'll do some background.
16:47Tell us what's been happening.
16:48Erm, she's had this psychic vision in her head,
16:52she thinks, that erm...
16:53She, erm...
16:54She came to stay with you?
16:55Yeah.
16:56At my mum's house.
16:57At your mum's house.
16:58Mary?
16:58Yeah.
16:59Yeah.
16:59From the dairy.
17:00It's $1,200, and then it's $1,500,
17:02and then it's $1,100.
17:03She's not too sure how much,
17:04but it was taken from her bag.
17:06And she believes that you,
17:09er...
17:10Theresa?
17:11Yes, that's right.
17:12Er...
17:12Or your...
17:13Another Mary, Mary Junior?
17:15Yes.
17:16Or your mother, Mary Senior,
17:18if you understand that, right?
17:19You said, and I was quite interested about this,
17:21I've always been scared of me aunt.
17:22What do you mean by that?
17:23Because she's always...
17:24Every time she sees me,
17:25she's always screaming at me.
17:26Why?
17:27She's always going for me, like...
17:28You said when you were 10,
17:29you saw her attack your sister-in-law.
17:31She's, er...
17:32Yeah, that's right.
17:32She was allowed...
17:33Always around,
17:34but she was always this sort of angry presence.
17:37Always.
17:38So, if...
17:38If she was sort of like on the outside,
17:40why did you lot have her to stay in the house?
17:43She don't stay in our house.
17:44She just...
17:45She used to pop in every now and again.
17:46So she came to see some members of the family
17:49and this money went missing.
17:50Yeah, that's right.
17:51Did you steal the money?
17:51No, I didn't.
17:52She said that we all shared it out.
17:53You didn't steal the money?
17:54No, I didn't.
17:55Have you done a lie detector?
17:56Yes, I did.
17:56How many people have done a lie detector?
17:57Has everybody done a lie detector?
17:58Yeah, we all have.
17:58All of you?
17:59So that's you?
18:00All the ones are blamed, yeah.
18:00Eileen?
18:01Yeah.
18:01No, not Eileen.
18:02That's the one whose money it went.
18:04Yeah.
18:04Theresa?
18:05Yes.
18:05Mary Junior?
18:06Yes.
18:06Has your mother done one as well?
18:08Yes, she has all of us.
18:08Tell me about, please, and I'm being terribly respectful, but I am having a bit of a stressful
18:12day.
18:12Tell me about the voodoo doll.
18:14The voodoo doll?
18:16She got a voodoo doll and she gave it all stitches all around everywhere in the body of the doll
18:22and...
18:24What the hell is that?
18:25Yeah, that's it.
18:26That's the one.
18:26She sewed this little voodoo lady doll to her belly as well and she said she's cursing
18:33me mom.
18:35Yeah.
18:35Since the mother got the voodoo doll, that's the senior Mary.
18:38Yeah.
18:39What's happened to her?
18:40She's got six stitches on the side of her foreheads.
18:43She fell over and she injured all her arm and her shoulder.
18:47There's the scar.
18:49And her leg is really swelled up.
18:51You believe it's affected your mother and all four of you are here today to do a lie
18:55detector to prove that you didn't steal the money.
18:58Yeah.
18:58Why is she so angry?
18:59I have no idea.
19:01Um, I don't want you to take this the wrong way.
19:04Um, God, I can't do this anymore.
19:07They're going to carry me out of here in a white coat.
19:10She accused your partner of, um, what?
19:14Doing something in her fridge.
19:16You won't say the word, will you?
19:18No.
19:19Pooing.
19:22The fridge is like only this big.
19:28She accused...
19:29She accused your partner...
19:30My partner, yeah.
19:32She accused your partner of depositing a Richard the Third in her fridge.
19:35That's right.
19:38Yeah.
19:38Um, now, now, this is, this is the voicemail from the woman.
19:42Do you ever think I'd say this, mother?
19:44This is, this is the voicemail from Mad Eileen, who sent a voodoo doll, and then accused
19:50your partner of pooping in the fridge.
19:51Have a, honestly, my life's getting worse by the minute.
19:54Have a listen.
19:54He's not going to get cancer in his...
19:57Is he?
19:58He's not going to get cancer in his...
19:59Oh, my God, why?
20:03I'm going to clarify that as your husband is just saying he's just done up in my fridge.
20:14That's basically what she said.
20:16Yeah.
20:16Did he do what in her fridge?
20:17Oh, he did not.
20:17Well, I don't know.
20:18I don't know what.
20:19He certainly didn't.
20:21He'd use a toilet.
20:22Of course.
20:23Right.
20:24Well, that's something, isn't it, to be honest.
20:26Why is she so angry?
20:27Because she believes you've stolen the money?
20:30Yeah, I think she must have these dreams or something.
20:32She must dream all these things.
20:33I don't know.
20:33So, you say she's tarnishing my family name.
20:35She's put a curse and it's affected my mother.
20:37The four of us are here today.
20:38Yeah.
20:39Will you come with me and find Eileen?
20:41I'll give it a go.
20:42Come on, then.
20:43We're going to find her.
20:44I'm going to...
20:51Hello.
20:52Are you all right?
20:53I'm all right.
20:54Where's Eileen gone?
20:57Eileen, how are you?
20:58I'm here, Jeremy.
20:58I need to hear your side.
20:59You keep shouting and screaming.
21:00No, but...
21:01Slowly.
21:02I did tell him, when I come in today, I said, she's nothing got to do with her.
21:06I'm not accusing her for anything.
21:07And I said, I don't want her on the show.
21:09I said, I'm going to walk off.
21:10Right.
21:10Just explain to me, right?
21:12Yeah.
21:12It's important you have your say.
21:14Yeah.
21:14I have a feeling, you told my team, that my family stole £1,200 from me.
21:19Yeah, I did.
21:19The money went missing.
21:20Yeah.
21:21They acted suspiciously, you said.
21:23Who is it that you actually suspect?
21:27Because...
21:27The one that owned the doll, and my sister's oldest daughter, Mary, which is here.
21:34Your sister is Mary Senior.
21:35Yeah.
21:36And another one that fell about the...
21:37Well, that's because you sent the voodoo doll.
21:40Do you think it was Theresa?
21:42No, I never said Theresa, but...
21:43Do you think it's Mary Junior?
21:45Yeah.
21:45And do you think it's your old sister?
21:47No, but she knew all about me older sister.
21:49So, what you're saying is, it's not Theresa.
21:51No.
21:52It's not Kathleen.
21:53No.
21:54And she wasn't even there when it happened.
21:55Why are you out first, then, if you didn't even there?
21:58She wasn't even there.
21:59She wasn't even there.
22:05No, I did not.
22:06She done it.
22:07And she cleaned it out.
22:08She did a poop in the fridge.
22:09Give me a little detector test and I'll prove it.
22:12That she cleaned out my fridge.
22:13She took pity on me.
22:14And the poo was on her nails.
22:15And she washed it out.
22:16I swear on the Holy Bible.
22:17She done that.
22:18She took pity on me.
22:19Look at her.
22:20You swear on the Holy Bible she did a poop in your fridge.
22:23Excuse me.
22:23Excuse me.
22:24And the poo was on her nails.
22:25Disgusting me what I'm saying.
22:27Look at the detector test and prove it.
22:29And for a second.
22:30Do you think we're going to do it?
22:31I never thought I'd ask this on the Jeremy Kyle show.
22:33Did you?
22:34It's not me.
22:35So, you speak for yourself.
22:36Don't speak for me, thanks.
22:37Did you do a poo in her fridge?
22:38She did, yeah.
22:39She did.
22:40I wouldn't do a lie detector on me.
22:41You're not telling me what to do.
22:43We're going to go to a break and you're going to come out on stage and all these...
22:47I'm speaking.
22:48Shush.
22:48Hey, Gerry, listen.
22:49It's not Gerry.
22:50That drives me even more mad.
22:53She's ringing me for on making days.
22:54She's giving me all the counterpures.
22:55Right, listen.
22:561,200 quid.
22:57Hold on.
22:57Please be quiet.
22:581,200 quid of your money went missing.
23:00Yeah.
23:01During the break, we're going to go on stage.
23:02Yeah.
23:03Whether you think it was Kathleen, whether you think it was Theresa, whether you think it was Mary Junior, or
23:09whether you think it was your sister, they've done lie detector tests.
23:12We're going to do it.
23:12Get out there.
23:13Back after this.
23:14Go.
23:14You've done nothing wrong, should it?
23:16We asked Kathleen, did you steal the money that went missing from Eileen's bag?
23:20You said no.
23:21Why did you say no?
23:23Since the start of your relationship with Eileen, apart from the one person you just admitted to, have you had
23:27sexual contact with anyone else?
23:28That's We Ask Carl.
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23:29Couldn't understand.
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24:10Hi, welcome back.
24:12Before the break we met Kathleen and Eileen.
24:14I'm just going to try and make sense of this story.
24:15Kathleen came out and said that my auntie Eileen had £1200 she says that was stolen from her when she
24:22was around my family.
24:23She's accused me, Theresa, my other sister 30, Mary, my older sister 50, of doing this.
24:29I'm speaking.
24:30Be quiet at school.
24:30The Jeremy Kyle Show.
24:32My mother, Mary Senior, has had a curse put on her Vara Voodoo doll and has fallen over and cracked
24:37her head open.
24:37I'm talking.
24:38Be quiet.
24:39You're next.
24:39Eileen went mad.
24:41What did you just say?
24:42No, she said I'm next.
24:43I said she's blaming me.
24:45Be quiet.
24:46Eileen says the money went missing.
24:48Yeah.
24:49Who do you think stole it?
24:51She wasn't even there.
24:52She was down the country when I saw her husband travelling.
24:54Theresa's on the Jeremy Kyle Show next.
24:56Give her a round of applause.
25:04I do apologise.
25:05Nice jacket.
25:06Did you steal the money?
25:08I didn't.
25:08Most certainly not.
25:09Have you ever done anything in her fridge?
25:11Oh, my God.
25:13Jesus.
25:14Oh, God.
25:15Did you...
25:16Oh, Jesus.
25:17Excuse me.
25:17Could I not have a delay detector for this or this was gone out?
25:21Do you know what is the most extraordinary thing about this story?
25:24You don't seem bothered about the 1,200 quid.
25:26You just want to know who's done her.
25:27What's it in your fridge?
25:29Oh, I didn't mention that.
25:30She's the one who mentioned that.
25:31Not me.
25:32Did somebody poop in your fridge?
25:33She did.
25:34Down there.
25:35She pooped it.
25:36She pooped it out of my fridge.
25:37She took pity on me when she knew that I was upset.
25:40And I swear in the Holy Bible, it's still got her nails out.
25:43She cleared it out.
25:44Did you?
25:44I wouldn't claim that belonged to nobody.
25:46Not even a child of a fridge.
25:48She cleaned it out.
25:50She cleaned it out.
25:51Why'd she do that for me?
25:53Why'd she do that for me?
25:54Charissa, did you...
25:55Sorry, Dolly.
25:55Excuse me.
25:56Hello.
25:56I find it very hard to change my baby's nappy.
25:59Well, the thing is you...
26:00You cleaned the fridge.
26:01You cleaned the fridge.
26:02Mess.
26:02And if that man give me a light and take her taste, it'll prove it.
26:05You cleaned, you know what I mean?
26:06Yeah.
26:06I had to do your spring cleaning in your caravan.
26:09Do you remember?
26:09You should not clean up for yourself.
26:10You should be back home with your dinner.
26:12I'm sure the whole world knows us.
26:14The whole world knows us.
26:15The whole world knows how clean I am and how good of a mother I am.
26:16You should be back home with your dinner when you're dinner.
26:18You don't need to argue about that.
26:19I'm not going to be going up for dinner.
26:19Yeah.
26:19You should be at home minding your dinner.
26:21She's three kids at home.
26:22She should be minding your dinner.
26:23She's never accused her here.
26:24She's here for nothing.
26:25I never accused her.
26:27If you're not here for nothing.
26:29Good English.
26:30Why are you here then?
26:31She's not accused.
26:32Well, you say she hasn't nicked the money but she's done a poop in your fridge.
26:36Shut up, none of me.
26:37Did you poop in her fridge?
26:38I can't believe I'm asking this.
26:40Did you steal the money?
26:42No, I didn't.
26:42Did you steal the money?
26:43No, I did not.
26:43Did you poop in her fridge?
26:44No, I did not.
26:44Did you steal the money?
26:46Oh God, I did not.
26:47Did you poop in her fridge?
26:48I never took money in any of my life.
26:49Who's Mary?
26:51Is that Mary's seniors daughter, Mary?
26:53Did she poop in the fridge?
26:55No.
26:55Mary's on the Jeremy Carl show.
26:57She's next.
27:06Hello, Mary.
27:07Hello.
27:08Now, you believe she might have stolen the money?
27:10No, her doctor took a death.
27:11Oh my God.
27:14Did she have a milk between them?
27:15That's what you thought.
27:16When did I take your money?
27:18When?
27:19What?
27:19When did I take your money?
27:20You took my money.
27:21When?
27:21When?
27:22You took it.
27:22When?
27:23You took it.
27:23You took it.
27:23Did you have a poop in my fridge?
27:24My life's over.
27:26I was very sad.
27:27I was very sad.
27:27You were sick at the time when you did it.
27:29You were sick at the time when you did it.
27:29I was having injections every day and it was out of me leg.
27:31And all the vitamins got on me body.
27:33Whatever you were getting.
27:34You can't accuse people of the wrong.
27:35You can't do that.
27:36Unbelievable.
27:37You can't do that.
27:38But you're still very sick now.
27:39Huh?
27:39You're still very sick.
27:40Yeah, I am sick.
27:40Who?
27:41You get sick and accuse people for doing things.
27:44Did you?
27:44What happened to your mommy, Robert?
27:46No, what happened to her?
27:47What you don't want me?
27:48Did you steal the money?
27:49No, I did not.
27:50I hate myself for asking.
27:52Did you have a poop in her fridge?
27:53No, I did not.
27:54No.
27:55None of you have had a poop.
27:56How did the poop get in?
27:57I don't even care about the money.
27:59I just want to...
27:59Jeremy, listen.
28:01Jeremy, listen.
28:02This is what you command to have a good laugh.
28:04She's the one who's talking about the poop, not me.
28:06I got a laugh at myself.
28:07Yes, sir.
28:07That happened years ago when she done that in my fridge.
28:10Fair enough, she cleared the door when she was finished.
28:12Why would a woman poop in your fridge?
28:14I don't think anyone would poop in.
28:15She's standing in a caravan fridge.
28:16She's standing in a caravan fridge.
28:18No, I'm trying to do it.
28:18You'd have to be very accurate, wouldn't you?
28:21It wouldn't be a house fridge if you had a caravan fridge.
28:24Pooping in a caravan fridge is much more difficult than pooping in a big...
28:27No, I'm speaking about pooping in a caravan fridge.
28:30I mean, she probably doesn't have something else in front of my fridge.
28:35And I swear to God, that's what she claims about.
28:37Right, your mother is Mary Senior, your mother.
28:40Now, the voodoo doll, because this story gets weirder by the minute, the voodoo doll was...
28:45Did you send the voodoo doll?
28:46I did send the voodoo doll.
28:46Why would you do that to your...
28:47Shut up!
28:48To your own sister.
28:50Well, you're asking me why.
28:50Well, wait till I get to the end of the question.
28:52Yeah.
28:53If I get angry, I tend to poop in people's fridges.
29:02Why would you send a doll that would put a curse on your sister?
29:06She's 71, and since you did that, she's had a fall and she's cut her head.
29:10Why would you do...
29:11Yeah, let's not finish it.
29:11What?
29:13So you're implying that worse...
29:15Be quiet and answer the question.
29:16You're implying that worse will happen to your sister.
29:19Don't ring me up on my phone.
29:20Are you all right with that?
29:21Why?
29:22What are they doing to me?
29:23What are they doing to me?
29:24What are they sending...
29:24She's ringing me all last night, nearly two o'clock this morning around the end.
29:28Last night they called me here in the audience.
29:30She had to take me phone on 20 and a half.
29:31She was calling me all sorts of names.
29:33So you have sent a voodoo doll.
29:35Let's get Mary your mother, and I don't really want to ask a 71-year-old if she's stealing money
29:40or taking her poop.
29:40Mary's on the Jeremy Kyle show now.
29:50Hello, Mary.
29:51Hello.
29:52How are you?
29:53I'm feeling all right now.
29:54I've had two bad falls.
29:55My leg was twisted and spout.
29:57This is because of the voodoo dolls?
29:59This forest is infected.
30:00I can't get them out.
30:01And I had a green down the lung and a black eye.
30:03And this is since the curse was...
30:04I've got a tingling bag.
30:05I'm going for physio from there, love.
30:08She's laughing at you.
30:08I wasn't right at all.
30:10Shush!
30:10Shush!
30:11She's laughing at that.
30:12Your sister did that to you?
30:14Well, I believe she did it.
30:14I got to the police when I called my woman about and screamed at that.
30:17How do you feel about your sister doing that?
30:19Well, I'll forgive her, but she's a bad woman.
30:21Well, tell her.
30:22She's a bad woman.
30:22I don't like to be ashamed when the people travellers looking at this when they go back in the agony.
30:26I don't want to do that.
30:27I'm a very respectable person.
30:31Are you going to speak to your sister then or what?
30:32What did I say?
30:33What did I say to her?
30:34Sorry for putting a curse on you.
30:36I didn't curse her.
30:38I didn't curse her.
30:39I just sent her to the doll.
30:39Have you seen the doll?
30:40Have you seen it?
30:41Yes, it's on the screen.
30:42Yeah, well...
30:43She's done all things.
30:44Well, if you've done nothing wrong, nothing should happen to you, should it?
30:47I don't know.
30:47Nothing shouldn't happen to you.
30:48Of course it shouldn't happen to you.
30:49You've done nothing wrong, should it?
30:50I give her the doll like a baby.
30:51Like a baby doll, right?
30:52It must be, yeah.
30:53You were blaming me for loads of things, yeah.
30:55I don't know what's going to happen to you.
30:57I don't know.
30:57Mother's talking.
30:58Shush.
30:59It was like a lovely little pretty baby.
31:01It's a play, but...
31:02You know, I'm not mad around, but...
31:03I had so many kids.
31:04I said, she was fond of it.
31:05I gave it to her.
31:06She cut the clothes from there.
31:07It's the same day that the money went, yeah.
31:14God in heaven knows.
31:15I'm going to take my test and come out.
31:16I did not do that.
31:17I don't really want to ask you this because I respect you enormously.
31:20I did not do that.
31:20You didn't poop in her fridge, did you?
31:22No, I did not.
31:22No, no, no.
31:22I threw a caravan all the way if anyone did that.
31:24I don't even want to ask.
31:25Did anybody poop in her fridge?
31:28No.
31:28Oh, Jesus.
31:29Oh, God.
31:30No.
31:30Did anybody steal her money?
31:31No.
31:31No.
31:32Does anybody want to do a lie detector about pooping?
31:35Does anybody want to do like...
31:36Don't answer me.
31:36I can't even begin.
31:37I do a lie detector about pooping in the fridge.
31:39Do you want to do it there?
31:44It's only fair, Jeremy.
31:45It's only fair you do a lie detector.
31:48It's only fair.
31:49Will you?
31:49I never...
31:50Shut up!
31:51I never thought I'd ask this in the history of my life.
31:54Please be quiet.
31:55If I do the money test, would you...
31:58Oh, God.
31:59How do I do this?
31:59Would you stay...
32:03Host carried off stage crying hysterically.
32:06Mother, I apologise.
32:08Will you come back tomorrow and all do a lie detector to prove that you didn't poop in her fridge?
32:13Yes.
32:13Yes.
32:15Yes.
32:17Can you imagine the headline?
32:19Today on the Jeremy Kyle show, did my sister and her kids take a poop in my fridge?
32:24It's coming to a television set near you very soon.
32:27Let's do whether they...
32:28Nobody seems to give a damn about 1,200 quid.
32:31It's all about tapping.
32:32I am worried about my money.
32:33I am worried about my money.
32:34Oh, I'm worried about the poop.
32:34It seems to be more about poo.
32:35This is what she's commanded.
32:36What the hell?
32:37This is why she's commanded.
32:39I told everybody.
32:40She doesn't care about anything because we didn't do any of it.
32:42She wants to forget about the money.
32:43It's what we keep going about the poo.
32:44You're the laugh, not us.
32:46People's laughing at you and us.
32:47They're laughing at you down there.
32:48We didn't do anything.
32:48We're cleaning poo and gunning your nails.
32:50They're laughing at you.
32:51Oh, my God.
32:52Right, so we're going to do a lie detector you four have done to prove that you haven't stolen the
32:55money.
32:56Shut up!
32:57Shut up!
32:57I think you clean it as well for me when you do it.
32:59And then tomorrow we're going to do a lie detector to prove none of you pooped in the fridge.
33:03No.
33:03And that's going to go out on television.
33:05Of course.
33:09Eileen.
33:10Come on, Eileen.
33:13We asked Kathleen, did you steal the money that went missing from Eileen's bag?
33:16You said no.
33:17Why did you say no?
33:18She was telling the truth.
33:19She was telling the truth.
33:19Ladies and gentlemen.
33:23On theft lie detector, we always ask if somebody knows for sure who's involved.
33:27You know, complicit.
33:28We asked Eileen, do you know...
33:29No, Kathleen.
33:29I don't even know.
33:30Everybody's called Een.
33:31I'm going to be called Jeremy Een.
33:33Do you know for sure who stole the money that went missing from Eileen's bag?
33:35Kathleen said no because she was telling the truth on both questions.
33:58And then we asked her.
34:04This is important.
34:05Then we asked her, do you know for sure who stole the money?
34:07She said no.
34:07She was telling the truth.
34:08She was telling the truth throughout the whole test as well.
34:10Well done, darling.
34:11Well done, darling.
34:13We just wanted to hit some of the crew.
34:15Right, Mary.
34:16Did you steal the money that went missing?
34:18No.
34:19You didn't steal the money?
34:20No.
34:21Absolutely.
34:22We asked her, did you steal the money that went missing from Eileen's bag?
34:24You said no because she was telling the truth as well.
34:30Do you know for sure who stole the money that went missing?
34:32She said no.
34:32She was telling the truth throughout the whole test as well.
34:39Mary, are you all right?
34:41Yeah.
34:41Oh, God.
34:42I've done it around the wrong way.
34:45Well, do you know what?
34:45I'm not even going to go back.
34:47I put Mary Junior and Mary Senior.
34:49And they both passed the test anyway, so there you go.
34:54You know what I think, Jeremy?
34:56I was the one I wanted to do.
34:57I felt so bad on my sister accusing me and my daughters for stealing money.
35:00She's come to my house just...
35:02They didn't steal your money.
35:04I mean, they didn't do nothing.
35:05But you really want to come back tomorrow to do a lie detector to prove that you didn't
35:11all do a poo in her fridge.
35:13I'm not going to come back tomorrow because they must have took something.
35:16Say, didn't steal your money.
35:17I'll write down, don't bite me, will you?
35:20What did she say to me?
35:22What did she say to me?
35:23Don't bite me.
35:24Don't bite her.
35:25Don't bite her.
35:26Don't bite her.
35:27Don't bite her.
35:28I'm worried she's going to put a curse on me in a minute.
35:32Poo in the hallway.
35:33She's just said, when you watch your hallway, she'll probably take a dump in it.
35:36Don't start.
35:37Right, listen.
35:37It's been an absolute pleasure.
35:38Mary, I hope you're okay.
35:40It's one of the most bizarre moments I've ever had and I'll come and live in your caravan
35:44at some point.
35:44Go that way.
35:45Thank you very much indeed.
35:46Mary, God bless you.
35:47Thank you, darling.
35:52Sometimes I wake up in the morning and I think, will my day get any weirder?
35:56Never have I spoken to five people from the travelling community, four of whom were keen to prove
36:02that they hadn't taken a dump in their auntie's fridge.
36:06Don't even go there.
36:06We're moving on.
36:07My next guest today, Leanne, is here to find out if her fiancé Carl has cheated.
36:10She says that a conversation she overheard recently at a party implied that he, Carl, had slept with one of
36:14Leanne's friends.
36:15Today she says she wants the truth.
36:16She says, I'm also here to prove that I haven't cheated and that our six-month-old daughter, Lola, is
36:22Carl's baby.
36:23She says it's make or break.
36:24It's a big day for her.
36:25Leanne is on the Jeremy Kyle Show.
36:27That way.
36:36Welcome to the show.
36:37You're smaller than me.
36:38I know.
36:39You look terrified.
36:39Are you all right?
36:40Yeah, yeah.
36:41Pardon?
36:41Yeah.
36:42Right.
36:42Now, you've been in a relationship with Carl for six years.
36:44And the important thing that we should point out here is there are two children.
36:47Five and five months.
36:49You say, I love him, but there's absolutely no trust.
36:53Constant arguments.
36:54Not great for the kids.
36:55Let's just go back, because today's massive.
36:57We're doing a lie detector on him, a lie detector on you, a DNA.
37:00There's all things going on, right?
37:01But let's just talk about, because I love this story about how you met.
37:04In a pub.
37:05I got my tooth out of the hospital and then I met him in a pub.
37:08This bloke walked up to you in a pub.
37:09She'd been to the dentist to have a tooth out and he went, you've got blood in your mouth.
37:13And that was how you met.
37:14When you were on a break, you had sex with somebody else.
37:17I did, yeah.
37:18And you told him.
37:19Yeah, I did.
37:19And for you, that wasn't cheating.
37:21No, because I wasn't with him.
37:22I wasn't intended to get back with him, neither.
37:24You told him straight away.
37:25Yeah, I did.
37:26When you did get back together and he was fine with it.
37:28Yeah.
37:29That, he says, has caused him to be insecure.
37:31Yeah.
37:31That's why he thinks there are arguments.
37:33But you have some doubts about him.
37:36Tell us specifically and speak up a bit, because I'm getting old.
37:38I'm 40-10 and I can't hear anything.
37:40Well, when I remember, I heard his dad saying to the woman in question,
37:46did you sleep with Carlin?
37:48And she was like, huh?
37:48And then when I asked them, they looked at shifting.
37:51This was a few days ago.
37:52You suspect.
37:53Oh, there he is.
37:54Mr. Lava Man.
37:56Now, now, shut up.
37:58So, a few days ago, you discovered, what do you think you discovered,
38:01that he might have messed around with a friend of yours.
38:03You say, he also cheated with somebody at the beginning, another woman.
38:08We can't be specific.
38:08But what you're saying is, all of a sudden, it's just all very bad.
38:11Now, is it the DNA test on the five-year-old or the five-month-old?
38:14Six-month-old.
38:15Why, in the name of God, does he suddenly doubt that as well?
38:17I don't know, because he knows fine well she's his.
38:20Um, it's got so bad, um, that you've inspected him.
38:25What do you mean you've inspected him?
38:27What do you mean by that?
38:28Well, he said, smell my d***.
38:30But he said...
38:33He said what?
38:35Smell my d***.
38:36Right.
38:38I don't know how you put that.
38:40I don't know quite.
38:42I mean, what do you suppose...
38:43How did it smell?
38:43How am I supposed to say?
38:45What am I supposed to say?
38:47And?
38:47It smelled a body wash.
38:49It smelled a body wash.
38:50Yeah.
38:51Today, lie detector to prove that you haven't cheated, but you're convinced that he has.
38:54A DNA later on the six-month-old kid.
38:56Let me just ask, people always say, oh, you know, I don't know.
38:59What happens if he's cheated in any which way?
39:01I don't know.
39:02He looks a bit shifty to me.
39:03Carl's on the Jeremy Kyle show.
39:04He's coming that way.
39:05Give him a round of applause.
39:13Now, forgive me, I've done this for 11 years.
39:15I don't think a woman has ever said to me on the Jeremy Kyle show, my boyfriend said,
39:18give me a sniff downstairs.
39:20Is that normal?
39:21No.
39:22It's not normal.
39:23How are you?
39:24Nervous.
39:24Why?
39:25Nervous that you're going to fail?
39:26No.
39:27Nervous of being here?
39:28Mm-hmm.
39:28Don't worry, they should be at work.
39:29It's fine.
39:29So, six years ago, you saw this woman across the pub and you thought, oh, she's got blood
39:34on her lip.
39:35And you fell in love.
39:37Mm-hmm.
39:39Tell me, first of all, why you doubt that the six-month-old might be yours, and speak
39:43up.
39:44Just because the death when she got with somebody else.
39:49Right, so there was a time around conception that you were with somebody else.
39:52Was that when you were on the break?
39:53Yeah.
39:54So, when you were on the break, you slept with somebody else, you didn't have safe
39:57sex, and very quickly after that, you got pregnant.
40:00Yeah.
40:01How many times did you sleep with a bloke?
40:02Twice.
40:03When you were on a break?
40:04Yeah.
40:05Did you know it was twice?
40:06No.
40:07So, you thought it was once?
40:08Mm-hmm.
40:09Before you sat here today?
40:11Well, she told us it was twice.
40:12What about this other woman that slept around your house?
40:14Yeah, I've never been with her.
40:16But she slept around your house.
40:17Why did she go to your house?
40:19To get away from my boyfriend.
40:22So...
40:22And where did she sleep?
40:23She didn't sleep.
40:24What do you think she didn't sleep?
40:25She was just having a drink.
40:27Well, she's heard rumours that you've been up to no good, and you think she's been up
40:31to no good.
40:31How would you describe this relationship right now, seriously?
40:34Rocky.
40:35Can you give me the results, please?
40:37Who are we going to start with?
40:38Should we start with you?
40:39I don't mind.
40:40Karl, the questions you were asked, the answers that you gave, and whether indeed you were
40:43telling the truth or not, are you going to pass this test?
40:45Yeah.
40:46Really?
40:46Mm-hmm.
40:47Right, now listen, this always happens, quite a lot increasingly.
40:50At the beginning of the test, Karl admitted to sleeping with one person at the beginning
40:55of the relationship.
40:56But we knew about that, but we built it into the questions.
40:58We asked you about...
40:59How long have you been together?
41:01Since the start of your relationship with Leanne, apart from the one person you've just
41:03admitted to, have you had sexual contact with anyone else?
41:06No.
41:06That's why we asked Karl.
41:06Why did you say no?
41:07Because I'm just telling you.
41:08Tess says you're a liar, pal.
41:14I beg your pardon?
41:16I beg your pardon?
41:18Since the start of your relationship with Leanne, apart from the one person you've admitted
41:22to, have you had sexual contact with anyone else?
41:25You said no.
41:25It said you were lying!
41:26Don't try to get smart with me.
41:28Since the start of your relationship with Leanne, apart from the one person you've admitted
41:30to, have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else?
41:32You said no.
41:33This test says you lied on that question as well!
41:35No, so the test's wrong, yeah?
41:38You sure about that?
41:39Yeah, definitely.
41:40Since the start of your relationship with Leanne, have you had sexual contact with the woman in question?
41:44He said no.
41:45He failed every single question.
41:48Not a chance.
41:50Not a chance.
41:54Oh, it's my fault again.
41:57We're going walkabout.
42:00I'll tell you what, I don't like walking much.
42:02Just go to a break.
42:03Back in a minute, ta.
42:03Since the start of your relationship with Carl, apart from the two that you've admitted to,
42:07have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else?
42:08She said no.
42:09Why'd you say no?
42:10Have you passionately kissed anyone else?
42:12She said no.
42:12Why'd you say no?
42:13The thing that you should look at is what the relationship's been like, yeah?
42:17Yeah.
42:23Have you been accused of cheating?
42:24Do you need to prove your innocence with a lie detector?
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42:57Thank you very much for doing.
42:58Welcome back.
42:58She's done a run.
42:59Where's she gone?
43:00Hello.
43:01Hello.
43:01What's he telling you?
43:02It's untrue?
43:02Yeah.
43:03What, do you think it's untrue?
43:04No, no, no, I'm not true.
43:06Who are you?
43:07Sister.
43:08What do you think?
43:09I've had sexual contact with the person questioned.
43:11Yeah?
43:11Not at all.
43:12You've had sex to somebody else, haven't you?
43:13Not at all.
43:14So that test's wrong, is it?
43:16Mm-hmm.
43:16You did it out of revenge because of what happened when you were on a break.
43:20Just admit it.
43:21Not at all.
43:22I'm not admitting to something I haven't done.
43:23So nothing happened at all?
43:24No, not with it.
43:25Interestingly, sexual contact with the woman in question and sex and sexual contact with
43:29somebody else, it's not just once.
43:30You do understand this.
43:31Since you started your relationship with Leanne, have you had sexual contact with a woman in
43:33question and other one as well?
43:36So what, that's just all rubbish, is it?
43:38That's, I have not been with...
43:39Not at all.
43:40What did you say?
43:41You told my team you didn't think much of this relationship.
43:43They argued the whole time.
43:45Leanne, at the beginning of the test, Leanne admitted having sex with a man twice during
43:49a break in the relationship.
43:50She also admitted having sex with another man at the beginning of the relationship.
43:52Did you know about that?
43:53Yeah.
43:53Yeah?
43:54Okay.
43:55Since the start of your relationship with Carl, apart from the two that you've admitted
43:58to, have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else?
43:59She said no.
44:00Why did you say no?
44:01Tess says your girlfriend was telling the truth, my friend.
44:05Thanks.
44:07I haven't been with...
44:08Since the start of your relationship, apart from the two that you've admitted to, have
44:12you passionately kissed anyone else?
44:13You said no.
44:14Why did you say no?
44:15It's interesting.
44:16This one says you're lying, love.
44:17Yeah?
44:17Yeah.
44:18Before you tell me your test wrong, you passed the first question, didn't you?
44:21Yeah, but I can't remember passing a kiss.
44:23You can't what?
44:23I can't pass no kissing anyone.
44:25Since the start of your relationship with Carl, apart from the two that you've admitted
44:27to have you had sexual contact with anyone else, you said no.
44:30She lied on the final two questions, but she didn't have intercourse with the other person.
44:34Are you sure you didn't sleep with somebody to get back at her?
44:36I'll tell you what you could do, of course, both of you could just go, it doesn't matter,
44:38let's just carry on.
44:39But I think what you should look at is what the relationship's been like, yeah?
44:43Yeah.
44:44Every single day?
44:45Come on, speak to me.
44:46No, it's mental.
44:47They're both layers, aren't they?
44:49Both a pair of layers.
44:52Come on, Leanne.
44:54You believed the test when he failed.
44:57You know that you didn't have sex with anybody else, but something when you were drunk happened
45:00with somebody else, didn't it?
45:02Just admit it.
45:03It must have, didn't you?
45:04Yeah.
45:04That's better when I've been drunk.
45:05It's not going to lie.
45:06Oh, sorry, what did you just say?
45:07When I've been drunk, I've been drunk.
45:08Oh, so you slept with sex.
45:09I reckon you slept with that one.
45:10Are you sure about it?
45:11Come on, at least she's admitted it.
45:12Just admit it.
45:13Just admit it.
45:14Admit it.
45:14You've been out drinking with your mate.
45:16Forget her.
45:17You've slept with somebody, mate.
45:18Why'd you fail the test?
45:19You just said you believed the test.
45:20Come on.
45:21I believe it.
45:21So obviously I have, and it's just obviously when I've...
45:24Because obviously we've been together six years, so it's been in that...
45:26So what happens?
45:27DNA?
45:28Should we do the DNA?
45:29Yeah, you should, because I know that.
45:30I know that.
45:30A hundred percent?
45:31Aye, a hundred percent.
45:32I know.
45:33But you have slept with two other people.
45:34Well, yeah, obviously I'm with you.
45:35Oh, my God.
45:37I know.
45:37Can you not admit it?
45:38If she's admitting it, admit it.
45:39I swear, Val, I haven't been with her, though.
45:41And then he's come and maybe move on.
45:42The DNA test results show that Carl...
45:44Is.
45:45Is the child's body.
45:48Now, interestingly about this woman, right, not only does she believe your test, but she's
45:52admitted that something might have happened when she was drunk.
45:55So the only thing's on you, my friend...
45:56But I haven't been with her.
45:57The only thing's on you to...
45:58I can't do me a favour.
46:01What did you expect?
46:02I need your DNA test.
46:03You better get her to do one, because I swear I haven't been doing that with her.
46:06Yeah, and then...
46:07She's admitted that the test is right for her.
46:10She hasn't slept with anybody.
46:12She knows that at some point she went out and got drunk and had a kiss and a fumble, didn't
46:15you?
46:15Yeah.
46:16Yeah.
46:17So, come on, mate.
46:18Nobody's buying it.
46:19You're blinking like you've got the headlights on your face.
46:22Not at all.
46:23So you don't...
46:24Not at all.
46:24I'm cheating on her.
46:25Why are you swearing, then?
46:27Because I'm angry at the fact that it's come up like that.
46:29You're angry that it's come up at the fact like that?
46:31Well, that'll be because you're a liar.
46:32No, I'm not a liar.
46:33Right.
46:33Not at all, Jeremy.
46:34Well, there you are.
46:35There you have it.
46:36What did you say a minute ago?
46:38What?
46:38I might have done something when I was drunk.
46:40Maybe when I've been drunk.
46:41So how can the test be wrong, then?
46:43Not with...
46:44I'm telling you now, not with...
46:46The test says you had sexual intercourse and contact with somebody else.
46:51So when you were apparently or allegedly drunk, you slept with somebody else, yeah?
46:56Probably when I'm drunk, I...
46:57Oh, so you are admitting that the test's right.
46:59And if you go into the test and you lie, you donut, what happens?
47:03Obviously, I got found out.
47:04Yeah.
47:05At least she admitted it.
47:06Do you want an overview?
47:07It's a joke.
47:08Two young kids.
47:10This.
47:10What are you going to do?
47:11Like, well, I've done this, you've done that, you've done this, I've done this.
47:13How long has it gone for?
47:15Tell her the truth.
47:16Tit for tat, stupid.
47:17Tell her the truth.
47:18Something happened when you...
47:20No, no, no, no, no, no.
47:21Something happened, didn't it?
47:22How can you sleep with somebody if you're drunk?
47:24No, I don't know.
47:24What, don't you remember having sex with somebody?
47:26Come on, mate.
47:28You wouldn't have failed the test.
47:30You know that, I know that, everybody watching this knows that.
47:32Admit it.
47:34Come on, just hold your hands up.
47:36I don't know.
47:36I haven't been with a man, I haven't been with a Val.
47:39Not her, somebody else when you're out and drunk.
47:42Did you have sex with somebody else?
47:44I don't know, probably, when I've been drunk.
47:48I don't know, we don't know when I'm drunk.
47:51So, when you're drunk, you don't know if you sleep with other people?
47:54Well, obviously.
47:55And if you're drunk, you don't know whether you get off with other people?
47:58No, I probably have, because it's been six years.
47:59It's probably been maybe two years ago.
48:01Can I just, can I just point out, she's right.
48:03If you can't behave better for each other, there's no point in being together.
48:07That's why we couldn't be a show.
48:08But that's the point.
48:09That's not really.
48:10You've both lied, and you, do you know what, just admit it and be a man, okay?
48:15Stop fudging the issue.
48:16We'll sit you aground, but you know what, honest is the best policy.
48:19Give him a round of applause.
48:20All yours, Jim.
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