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00:00On today's show, that boy's mother died at four years of age.
00:04Why didn't you go and get him out of care and be a father to him?
00:09You used his mum as a punch bag.
00:11It's not true.
00:12You're the big man, you like to slap a woman, don't you?
00:14Don't hit women!
00:16God, face me.
00:18Father?
00:20You didn't even know your mum died, I had to tell you.
00:24Get off!
00:25No, no, no, no!
00:27You're not a mystery father!
00:28What is the person, you know, a good father?
00:31It's good to have one of them, I've tried!
00:33This isn't about you, this is about your children.
00:38My mum told me when I was very young that I know this is stuff.
00:42I just wanted to find off.
00:48I've always said a part of me has been missing.
00:50When she came to my house, it felt right.
00:53I know that's us, man, but it felt right.
00:58The DNA test results show that...
01:27Hello, my friends.
01:28Good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:30Now, my first guest today, Elliot, wants to confront the man he describes as the world's worst father who violently
01:35attacked his mum and abandoned him 18 years ago.
01:38Now, there are numerous people here today involved in this family feud, all with very different opinions.
01:42But we're going to start with Elliot.
01:43It's really important.
01:44He's 18.
01:45We're coming backstage.
01:46It's a big, big day for him.
01:47Give him a round of applause.
01:48Elliot's on the Jeremy Couch.
01:55It's easy to come up with a line, the world's worst dad, but I want to hear this from you.
01:59You've never met this guy.
02:01No, I've never met him.
02:01Not since...
02:02He left around the age of one after being on and off with my mum for around two years.
02:08You say, basically, I knew nothing about this bloke, but I got over the years to hear quite a lot.
02:15What did you hear about him?
02:17I wasn't told nothing when I was young, but as I got older, from around the age of eight on
02:21onwards, you hear things in the playground.
02:24You hear things from my sisters, sort of drip-fed over the years.
02:27And that he's a violent, abusive man.
02:29Now, you had to go through the trauma at a young age of going into care.
02:32You lost your mum at four.
02:33God bless you for that.
02:34And then you hear all of this stuff about your dad.
02:36Your dad's nowhere to be seen.
02:37What's it like growing up knowing that?
02:40It's a massive disappointment.
02:42You ain't got a father figure in your life, so you have to do it on your own.
02:44How hard has it been?
02:47It gets difficult, but you have your moments, but it makes you a stronger person for it.
02:50So, just talking to you, like, total respect, 18 years of age, you know, there's a lot of people who
02:54would come to a show like this and they go,
02:56I lost my mum, sadly, but dad was a waste of space.
02:58He was this, he was there.
02:59Oh, my life's a disaster.
03:00You're not like that.
03:01You strike me immediately as somebody who's going to go, you know what, I haven't been dealt a good hand,
03:04but I'm going to get on with my life, right?
03:06It's just a bit of a commitment to my sister and my child now.
03:09Why hasn't this bloke looked for you?
03:10Why does it take you to come to a show like this to look for him?
03:13I got in contact with him a couple of weeks ago.
03:16I had some questions, and I want to put my past behind me and move forward.
03:20I just had a baby on that.
03:21I want to move forward with that.
03:22And I asked him these questions, but he never gave me reasons.
03:27Did he admit to being an alcoholic?
03:28No.
03:29No, he won't admit to nothing.
03:30He seems to be holding it.
03:33He speaks through his partner, Alison.
03:35Oh, yeah, I've heard that.
03:36Well, today's about him and you.
03:38There were accusations of the alcoholism, as we said, also physically violent to your mum.
03:44Definitely physically violent to my mum.
03:46There's quite a few people who've just scrobed his.
03:51It's bang out of order.
03:52He's done it to multiple women, which has me off even more.
03:54Grabbed your brother and strangled him.
03:56He's attacked and abused your sister, Cerise, too.
03:57According to them, yeah.
03:58I mean, I think it's incredible.
03:59And I mean this.
03:59I'm going to say this to the audience here and at home.
04:01I think it's incredible.
04:01You're 18 years of age and you're here saying, do you know what?
04:03I'm not going to call this guy Dad.
04:05I'm here to front him out and say, did you do this?
04:07And if you did do it, justify it to me, OK?
04:09Yeah.
04:09It's not like, you're not approaching this thinking there's going to be some amazing,
04:12great relationship.
04:13But what you're saying is, I'm 18 years of age.
04:16I need to put my house in order.
04:17I want to know what you did.
04:18I want you to man up and admit to me.
04:20Yeah.
04:20I've got to go and meet this human being.
04:23But I'm going to start by saying, you stay innocent.
04:25Real respect.
04:26Give him a round of applause.
04:26You all right?
04:27You all right.
04:27Good man.
04:28Stay there.
04:29Great.
04:30Sounds like a tremendous father, doesn't it?
04:32Right.
04:35I've got to say one thing about that kid.
04:3718 years of age.
04:38Brought up in care.
04:38Here to defend his mum's honour.
04:40And here to ask questions that need to be answered.
04:42Total respect.
04:42I don't know what you do with your applause.
04:44This is a 46-year-old man.
04:46I don't know how many kids he's got.
04:47There's a whole series of them here today to say, you're no sort of father at all.
04:51Kevin's on the Jeremy Kyle Show.
05:03You sober?
05:04Yes.
05:05Why are you sweating and shaking then?
05:07Just nervous.
05:08Nervous of what?
05:09The truth?
05:10It's not the truth.
05:11What do you mean it's not the truth?
05:12How many examples do you want?
05:14I haven't been violent to his mother.
05:16That boy's mother died at four years of age.
05:19I haven't finished yet.
05:20Whatever you did or you didn't do, why didn't you go and get him out of care and be a
05:24father
05:24to him?
05:25I didn't know he was in care.
05:28You didn't know your own son's in care.
05:30Where were you?
05:31Down the pub?
05:32No.
05:32Why wouldn't you make it irresponsible to find out that he was in care?
05:35I didn't even know what his proper name was.
05:37Really?
05:37I haven't had a relationship with my children as they've all been poisoned against me.
05:42How many kids have you got?
05:44That makes no difference, does it?
05:46I'm not if.
05:46How many, shush, how many children have you got?
05:52You don't know, do you?
05:54Yeah, of course I do.
05:55You know something, there are people out there dying to be parents and people like you shouldn't
05:59have had the opportunity.
06:00That kid's amazing.
06:04Come on, man.
06:05Come on.
06:06You're the big man.
06:07You like to slap a woman, don't you?
06:08No, I don't.
06:09Don't you like it when a bloke gives you something back?
06:11I don't eat women.
06:11How many kids have you got?
06:13I don't eat women.
06:14Really?
06:14Yeah.
06:14Do you hear men?
06:15Come on, face no.
06:17Men.
06:17You're not your good father.
06:20So don't try and say that you're a good father.
06:22Who are you?
06:23I'm the son, the oldest.
06:24You are Paul.
06:26Love you.
06:27Love you, brother.
06:28Let me, yeah, I know.
06:28Can I do this?
06:29Look at me.
06:30Give him a round of applause.
06:31Wait.
06:32Come on.
06:33I think this is where I'm wrong with women.
06:35Well, that's one of your children, isn't it?
06:37Out the back's another one you didn't give a damn about.
06:39I'm not sure Elliot's mine.
06:41Why?
06:42Are you going to call his mother a cheat now?
06:43Yeah.
06:45How many kids have you got?
06:48Who was Kay?
06:49Was she an ex?
06:50Yes.
06:51Watch this.
06:51This is your ex-partner.
06:52Kevin, who the hell do you really think you are?
06:57You're nothing but a wife-beating alcoholic.
07:01You're a bully, a control freak.
07:03You made my life hell.
07:06You beat me up.
07:08You accused me of all sorts and I done nothing, nothing at all to you.
07:12I was faithful to you all along.
07:15And because of you, I lost the kids to adoption.
07:18You don't deserve to be happy.
07:21I hope you rot in hell.
07:30Do you know the five kids you have with her that are adopted?
07:33Why are they adopted?
07:34Neglect.
07:35On both sides.
07:36You neglected your children?
07:37On both sides, yes.
07:39Why did you neglect your kids?
07:40Too busy drinking?
07:41No.
07:41Messing around?
07:42No.
07:42Beating women up?
07:43I can't beat women up.
07:44I don't even know why Elliot would want the time of day from you.
07:46Let's talk about Paul, the guy that already came out.
07:49Your son, brother to Sharice, potential half-brother to Elliot.
07:53He says you used his mum as a punch bag.
07:56That's not true.
07:57What is true then?
07:58Why don't you man up?
07:59I haven't hit women.
08:00We've had her say you were violent.
08:02We've had him here from his mother.
08:03She passed away that we were violent.
08:05And he says the same.
08:06Come on, mate.
08:07You're not the big man anymore.
08:09Were you violent to Paul's mum?
08:10No.
08:11Well, what happened then?
08:12Let's get Paul on the Jeremy Carl show that way.
08:26You don't even know how old all your kids are.
08:29You don't even know half the names.
08:32How many kids has he got, Paul?
08:34To be honest, I've lost count.
08:37He can't keep that in his pants.
08:43And isn't it interesting?
08:44Even your own brothers don't like you.
08:47You didn't even know your own mum died.
08:49I had to tell you.
08:50That's how bad you found me hate you.
08:52Kevin used my mum as a punch bag,
08:54cared for the whiskey bottle and nothing else.
08:57He's a scumbag.
08:57That's correct.
08:58So he says that his mother was beaten.
09:02Kay says you beat her.
09:03Come on!
09:04I wasn't beating anybody.
09:06What was life like for you?
09:07You say he hit me once.
09:08You know what?
09:09Yeah, he pinned me up.
09:10Like, he left when I was really young.
09:13When I was 18, I wanted to find answers there.
09:16Like Elliot.
09:17Yeah, he got in touch with me through Facebook.
09:19Nice.
09:20So, you know, I had like an hour of lashing out.
09:23And then I met him, you know,
09:25I moved in with him for a couple of months.
09:28He pinned me up the war, you know.
09:30Is that true?
09:31I'm like...
09:31That's true, yes.
09:32Why was that?
09:33Because I had to come back from work in the middle of the night
09:35because he was upset in the household.
09:37Yeah, okay.
09:38He was drunk himself.
09:39Drunk?
09:40Because you've been such a great role model, haven't you,
09:41to all of your kids.
09:42How many kids have you got?
09:44Eight.
09:45What are their ages?
09:46What are their names?
09:46What are their dates of birth?
09:47You don't know anything, do you?
09:49Why would this guy...
09:49Why are you here today?
09:50Tell Elliot, keep away from me.
09:52He's not a...
09:53He's not even an animal.
09:54He's not even a mace.
09:55They're more of a parent than you.
09:57You're going to say anything at all.
09:58You could have played a part in their lives,
10:00but you weren't around...
10:01I went to call.
10:02...because you were too busy getting drunk.
10:04I went to call kids.
10:06Did you?
10:06Yes.
10:07Oh, get off.
10:08No, no, no, no, no.
10:10That's not...
10:10No!
10:12You don't know what these pals like.
10:14You're not...
10:15You're not...
10:15You're not...
10:16You're not mixed in the past.
10:17I'm telling you, let's open your...
10:19Go for you, girlfriend.
10:20Right, well, wait there a minute.
10:21Wait, wait.
10:21What are you running off?
10:23What are you running off?
10:23And then do you notice in all of this?
10:25Oh, no, no, no.
10:26Do you notice in all of this?
10:27Who's that?
10:28Do you notice in all of this?
10:29Do you notice in all of this?
10:33Just chill.
10:34Are you opening the way?
10:34Are you opening the way?
10:35No, no, no, no.
10:36Do you want to know something?
10:37Do you want to know something?
10:38You're lucky.
10:38Have you been beaten up yet?
10:40No, no, do I look like I've been beaten up?
10:41I don't care what you look like.
10:42Get off my stage and keep coming at home till I ask you to.
10:45Go.
10:46Go to a break.
10:47Back in the morning.
10:47Take a seat.
10:48There you go.
10:48Sit.
10:49Listen to me.
10:50Rod, you do not know.
10:52I'm going to talk to her like that.
10:54Talk to me.
10:55What are you going to do?
10:55What are you going to do, baby?
10:56What are you going to do?
10:57I've had 18 years for you.
10:58What are you going to do?
11:21It's all kicking off.
11:22Security.
11:30This test is you're a liar, love.
11:32This isn't about you.
11:34This is about your children.
11:35Oh, here we go.
11:36The car will be pissed.
11:38OK, more happiness after.
11:42Oh, get off.
11:43No, no, no, no, no.
11:48Oh, my Lord.
11:50I need Philip Schofield has to put up with this.
11:57Our DNA doubts ruining your relationship is an ex refusing to accept paternity.
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12:29Welcome back for the break.
12:31I was attempting to speak to Kevin.
12:33You're his son as well.
12:34You say he is an alcoholic, violent wife.
12:36Well, that is Mrs. Allison, who's his voice.
12:38Well, let me speak in a minute.
12:39But respect to the young man who came here today who said, I want to meet this guy and get
12:43some answers.
12:44Elliot's back on The Kyle Show.
12:55What's your reaction to what you've just seen?
12:57He's, he's, he's, he's full of, he's full of lies is what he is.
13:02Do you know what I was thinking?
13:04I look at you two and you both have that haunted look, but you speak so well.
13:08And, and you wonder, don't you, if you're me and the audience, you know, there's a, there's an ex he
13:12had five kids with apparently who says that he was violent.
13:15Your mum said that he was violent.
13:16You've talked about seeing him be violent to your mum.
13:18He doesn't say anything.
13:20He doesn't front anybody out.
13:21And he's back there saying, oh, they're ganging up on me.
13:24I haven't got anything to say.
13:25Well, man up and say something.
13:27You came here with an open mind, right?
13:30You can see it on his face.
13:32You can see it on his face.
13:34He's actually scared.
13:35He's guilt.
13:35He's, what are you?
13:36It's guilt.
13:36Why do you want to know then?
13:37Why do I want to know?
13:38I want to know what, what he's done to my mum.
13:40I want him to admit it.
13:41I want recognition.
13:42Oh, oh, do you speak for him then?
13:47No.
13:48Where is he then?
13:49Why, why should he listen to these two?
13:52You've only met him five minutes.
13:54Oh, oh, oh, oh, listen to me.
13:56Right, you do not know.
13:59Get your nose out of the business.
14:02You're not nothing to say.
14:03No, nothing, you're next, you're next.
14:05I'm not, you're not.
14:08Three years.
14:08Sorry?
14:09Three years.
14:09All right, let's try something with you then.
14:11You're here to defend his honor.
14:12Take a seat.
14:13Hold on a second.
14:14The one he had five kids, beaten.
14:16His mother, beaten.
14:17His mother, beaten.
14:19You're having a go at them.
14:20You should be saying, blimmin' heck,
14:22what am I doing with a man that behaves like this?
14:24Why are you having a go at them?
14:26Why would I be with a man who beats anybody up?
14:28He doesn't beat anybody up.
14:30So what these people are lying?
14:31He, I'm pointing to your mind.
14:34He's pointing to your mind.
14:36Is your bollocks?
14:37No.
14:38Why is he shaking and sweating today?
14:40He's shaking and sweating because.
14:41Because it's guilt.
14:42Because it's regret.
14:43Because he knows what he's doing.
14:45No, he, because he's faulty as well.
14:46And you've deluded.
14:47You're deluded.
14:48I'm deluded, aren't I?
14:49You're deluded.
14:50Sorry, who are you?
14:50You're supposed to let my dad do all this time.
14:53Who are you?
14:54Can you say that I'm not?
14:56You're telling me.
14:57Are you, are you, are you?
14:57You said that he's in a magazine.
15:00Are you Sharice?
15:01Are you Sharice?
15:02I've now got the taxes to prove it.
15:05How much fact do you want, darling?
15:07You can defend the man you love and it's only right that he gets that.
15:10But hear me out.
15:11A boy who's been in care completely ignored.
15:14Another one who's been shinned.
15:15Three women.
15:16You have your moment.
15:17Go on.
15:18You tell us how you defend his actions.
15:20Go on, tell me.
15:22Not a word.
15:22Go on.
15:23Of you, of you're the women.
15:24I mean, Paul's mum is just, like, total lies.
15:27Do you know that?
15:29Yeah, I know.
15:30Oh, look, like, she's tall.
15:31Do you know her?
15:32Have you ever spoke to her?
15:33Have you met her?
15:34Shut your mouth and get away from that man before you get her.
15:44These guys are actually nicely telling you that you're going to be next, love, aren't they?
15:48You might be out.
15:49What is that?
15:50No, listen.
15:51It's not your business.
15:53Wait, wait, wait, wait.
15:53Just listen, yeah?
15:54You are next.
15:56Do you understand?
15:57I'm not next.
15:58I'm not next.
16:03Do you not think this kid is 18 years old?
16:09You want to talk to her like that?
16:10Talk to me.
16:11What are you going to do?
16:12What are you going to do, really?
16:13What are you going to do?
16:13I've had 18 years for you.
16:14What are you going to do?
16:1518 years.
16:16Isn't it amazing?
16:17Hold on a second, Paul.
16:18Isn't it amazing you'll defend that, but you won't come out and face your own son?
16:23Not you.
16:24Not you.
16:24Move chairs.
16:25Move chairs.
16:26Yeah.
16:26That's your son.
16:27Come on.
16:28Just come out here and go, don't talk to my missus like that.
16:31What about your son?
16:33Come on.
16:35I don't even know where he was.
16:37I mean nothing.
16:38I'm not going to sign the abortion papers.
16:39I didn't sign anything.
16:41So why social sex?
16:42You were four weeks old when I left your mother.
16:44So why leave me at four weeks old then?
16:45Because me and your mum split up.
16:47So what's that got to do with it if I split up on my missus?
16:49I've got to babby.
16:49I'll stop after you.
16:50I don't even know where he was.
16:53I don't know where he was.
16:55I don't know where he was.
16:58Yeah, but I thought your name was Sebastian.
16:59That's what it's supposed to have been.
17:01Even you knew that.
17:02Did you do enough?
17:04I was told his name was Sebastian.
17:05You beat women up, don't you?
17:06No, I don't.
17:06Really?
17:07Yes.
17:07So how come I've got three women who say you have?
17:10They've just poisoned the kids' minds.
17:12He's just very calmly.
17:13She slagged his mother off, said...
17:15You've not even apologised to not one of them.
17:17Who are you?
17:18Oh, yes, his girlfriend again.
17:19Not one of them have you apologised to?
17:22That's a good point.
17:23Well said, actually.
17:23You could better...
17:24Well, shut up then.
17:25Go on, where's your answers?
17:27Yeah, yeah.
17:28Well, I'm sorry I couldn't have been there for them, but I've been trying to make sense
17:31Sorry to them.
17:32I've been trying to make sense, sorry to them.
17:39You need to say you've been in these three years.
17:42Well, I've been in these, like, three years.
17:43Well, it's even in them three years.
17:45I don't know that bloke.
17:46I've never met him.
17:47I've got a grandkid.
17:48You've got a grandkid by me.
17:50You don't even know about that either.
17:52I did.
17:53Well, I'll put the show to hold you today.
17:55Take a seat.
17:57Let's do this.
17:58Be quiet a second.
17:59Be quiet.
17:59Be quiet.
18:00Come on.
18:01Have your say.
18:03There's overwhelming evidence that says that a variety of women, whether they're here or
18:09not, OK, have made accusations that you're violent, that you've been a drinker, that you've
18:15abandoned children.
18:16I don't even know if you know how many kids you've got.
18:18Here is an incredibly balanced 18-year-old saying, I need answers.
18:21Forget hiding behind your woman.
18:23These three will shut up a minute.
18:25Come on.
18:26Talk.
18:26I've tried everything I could with my first three kids.
18:29I went to court twice for my first three kids.
18:32What about the other seven, pal?
18:36Well, I don't know.
18:38There's nothing I can do.
18:39Don't.
18:40Don't.
18:40Don't.
18:41Don't.
18:41Don't.
18:42You don't know why how many kids you've got?
18:43Because you're always too smashed in your face.
18:45No, I'm not.
18:45Yes, you are.
18:46You've got ten kids.
18:47Yes, you are.
18:47Yes, you are.
18:48Yes, you are.
18:49You see the boy next to you, right?
18:51Yeah.
18:5118 years of age.
18:52Lost his mother at four.
18:53You freely admitted just then that when he was four weeks of age, you left.
18:59Yeah.
18:59You didn't hang around and go, right, my relationship doesn't work with his mother, but I'll be the father that
19:04I should be.
19:05Elliot.
19:06Hold on a minute.
19:07No, no, no, Paul, Paul, Paul, Paul, Paul.
19:08You don't even know his name.
19:10For me.
19:10For me.
19:10Four weeks and you don't know his name.
19:11For me.
19:12Can you step back a little bit, please?
19:14Tell him what it was like to lose your mum, be brought up in care without a dad.
19:16Tell him calmly.
19:18I didn't know the difference what it was like to have a dad, so it didn't make a difference to
19:22me.
19:23But I've always wanted one there as a role model, as a figure in my life.
19:27I've been a f*** along the way in my life.
19:29Now, if I know for a fact if somebody was there to guide me, someone was there to point me
19:33in the right direction, I wouldn't have been the silly f*** I was.
19:36Do you understand?
19:37I wish I could have been there.
19:38I wish it doesn't change nothing, does it?
19:40No, no.
19:40I know it doesn't.
19:41No.
19:41And then she died when I was four years old.
19:44I'm genuinely sorry about that.
19:44I know.
19:45Yeah, you're genuinely sorry, but she had health conditions, mental health.
19:47I didn't know.
19:48I didn't beat her.
19:49Well, what about kicking the dog down the stairs?
19:51What about ticking my cousin?
19:52What dog?
19:53What dog?
19:53You know the dog.
19:54It's called Nicky.
19:55You never had a dog?
19:56You never had a dog?
19:57Oh, yeah.
19:57When you used to live in the house.
19:59Yeah.
19:59You never had a dog?
20:00And my granddad and my uncle had to come and remove you.
20:02Do you remember that?
20:03No, but I'm not.
20:04No, but I'm not.
20:05We never had a dog.
20:05We never had a dog.
20:06People who have actually been decent enough to raise me my entire life would lie to me, but the person
20:09who hasn't been decent to even be there isn't.
20:12Yeah?
20:13Well, there's no dog at all.
20:14I haven't beat your mother.
20:15He explains to me why you have doubts that Elliot's your kid, which is, I think, just another
20:19pathetic example for you to justify that you haven't been there for him.
20:22I hope I'm not his kid.
20:23It's no offence to you, Paul, and the rest, but do you know what I mean?
20:26It's a good thing out there.
20:28I'll still be friends with you after the show.
20:30It's not it again!
20:32It's not it again!
20:35At least you're passionate.
20:36Where's he gone?
20:39Get him back, Alison.
20:41These kids want to know the truth.
20:44Get on this stage and face your kids.
20:51I'm not doing it.
20:52I'm not doing it.
20:53I just want to talk to your sister, Cherise, because she was really, really upset.
20:58And it's easy to sit in the audience and watch this, but you're all right, sweetheart.
21:01Just, I know.
21:03Listen.
21:03It's making me angry.
21:04Listen, it's making me angry.
21:05It's nothing to do with me.
21:06I mean, there's a...
21:07I'm your biggest fan.
21:08I watch the show every day, so.
21:09There's overwhelming evidence that this bloke, you know, has beaten up women, has had kids.
21:15Yeah, my mum told me, but my mum doesn't want to come out of the show, because she doesn't want
21:19to get involved with all this, but...
21:21You've done DNA as well today.
21:23I'm doing this for my mum, really.
21:24He had done things to my mum.
21:26He pushed it out of the stairs, buying me cigarettes.
21:29And when I was six months old, my mum told me this, he kicked the door, and it nearly landed
21:34on me, because it nearly tried to kill me.
21:37Why did you...
21:37He doesn't want a daughter.
21:38Why did you do a DNA test?
21:40Because, um, that stuff of cow, I know, is saying that I'm not his daughter.
21:45Because it's all, like, it's all on the messages.
21:48It's all on Facebook.
21:49I don't like doing this.
21:50Can you three on stage come...
21:51Can you come in here for me, please?
21:53Can you come here?
21:53I hate doing this.
21:55I'm sick and tired of running around after people who don't deserve it.
21:58Are you going to play with me?
22:00We're going to go and we're going to do this with him, all right?
22:02And quite why you as well...
22:04Quite why we should have to follow somebody around this building when they're...
22:07Come on, let's get you all over here, Cerise.
22:09Come on.
22:10It's just ridiculous.
22:11Let's just run around after him, shall we?
22:13He should be out here making it work with his kids.
22:15Elliot, you know, this was about...
22:18Oh, you want us to run around to you, do you?
22:20You're going to run off again.
22:21Seriously, everybody, just get out.
22:23I'm not...
22:23Come on, Dad.
22:24Admit it.
22:25Just admit it.
22:27She's going to come messaging me on Facebook saying I'm the ugliest guy with...
22:32Oh, what?
22:33No, no, no.
22:34Cerise, Cerise, wait.
22:36Tell me.
22:36He's not that big daughter.
22:38Oi, be quiet.
22:39Excuse me.
22:40Shut your mouth.
22:41You are the one messaging me...
22:43Can I just...
22:44Excuse me, can I do the text?
22:45Be quiet, defending the indefensible for once.
22:48That's what came off your thing.
22:49You are the one messaging me, you thick whatever you can't be, Kevs,
22:52as you are so thick, must take after your mum, especially with your looks.
22:56You said that, did you?
22:58Yeah, because the thing she said to me.
22:59You're disgusting.
23:00Oh, come on.
23:01You're fucking next to me.
23:02Come on, right, sir.
23:02You want to know your dad's because you want to play a big boy out of me.
23:06You saw her.
23:07You're fucking next to me.
23:07Why do you, why do you...
23:09Hold on one second.
23:10Why do you...
23:11Because he's not the one in the door.
23:11Hear me a second.
23:13Why do you keep, in a really calm way, I just want a sentence which you won't be able to
23:16answer.
23:17How can you keep defending the indefensible?
23:22His mother, his mother, her mother, everything.
23:26Ten kids, either adopt, be quiet, adopted or in care.
23:29How can you keep defending him?
23:32Is it because you're one of those women that thinks,
23:34Oh, I'll make a difference to him.
23:36I'll change.
23:36You will be beaten up at some point.
23:39They're dead right.
23:39Why do you keep defending him?
23:41Well, I'm defending the person I know.
23:43Save your son.
23:44And what is...
23:44All right, hold on a second.
23:45What is the person you...
23:46Tell me.
23:47No, no, but...
23:47What is the person you know?
23:48A good father?
23:50It's a loving and caring person.
23:51What about his kids?
23:53Well, it's because I want to know.
23:55I've tried.
23:55You've tried by sending messages calling her thick and saying she's not his.
23:59He's a liar and he's going to end up doing to you.
24:02Yes, you are.
24:03No, I'm not.
24:03Yes, you are.
24:03No, I'm not.
24:04Are you speaking now?
24:05Are you hiding behind your girlfriend?
24:07Oh, come on.
24:09I'm not lying.
24:10This started with this kid, 18, going, Dad, where have you been?
24:14And all we've got is her defending you because you can't defend yourself, can you?
24:18Of course I can.
24:19Then go on.
24:20Go on that stage with your kids and do the...
24:23Oh, I'm not doing that.
24:24This isn't about you.
24:25This is about your children.
24:27And we're going on that stage and we're going to do it.
24:29So you, for once, can do the right thing.
24:31Get your backs up.
24:32Stop running around because there's nobody in this crew that's going to follow you.
24:34Get out there and face your kids.
24:37The DNA is next on the stage with me now.
24:40You lot, I guess, would all hope he's not your dad, wouldn't you?
24:42Yes.
24:43All the stuff he's done, I'd rather him not be my dad and not have him in my life.
24:47The DNA test results show that Kevin...
24:51The DNA test results show that...
24:56Somebody, please.
25:03Do you think you're being lied to?
25:04Do you have evidence to prove it, like home videos, recordings or texts,
25:08that you want to confront someone with?
25:11If you're 18 or over and you'd like to be considered for the show,
25:13email talk at itv.com along with your number.
25:16Text talk plus your name to 63334.
25:19Text costs 25 pence plus one standard rate message.
25:21Or you can call my team today.
25:23It's 09011.
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25:26Of course, it costs 25 pence plus network access charge.
25:37Thank you very much at ASO Double DNA.
25:39Kev, how many kids have you got?
25:41Eight.
25:43It's ten.
25:45So what don't exist to you then, Dad?
25:46I can name them all to you and they're ages, you can't.
25:50You've got five with K, haven't you?
25:52I've only seen you in total.
25:53Sorry, have you got five with K, yeah?
25:54Yeah.
25:55And how many...
25:55So just out of interest, are any of you Ks?
25:58No.
25:58No.
25:59So that's six, seven, eight.
26:00But then you've got...
26:01I don't have a proof of that.
26:02Well, that's nine.
26:03Got one with his current partner.
26:05So that's ten.
26:06Three with his.
26:06Have you got a baby with him?
26:07Mm-hmm.
26:09Next.
26:10So that's at least ten.
26:11But this started with this kid saying, I haven't seen you, Dad.
26:15My mum is no longer here.
26:17I heard that you beat her up.
26:18But you still have an answer.
26:19You're just cling hold of Alison, who's had much to say.
26:22And begrudgingly, I suppose she's defending a man,
26:25although I suspect she'll be on the hit list very soon.
26:28You've nothing to say to this young man.
26:30You only try to take child benefit money.
26:33You only want the kids just for the child benefit money.
26:35No, let's do the DNA for Serene.
26:37You lot, I guess, would all hope he's not your dad, wouldn't you?
26:39Yes.
26:40How are you?
26:40It's been playing my life a la la.
26:41But I suppose the best thing is, if you are,
26:43you've got each other, and that's good, isn't it?
26:45Either way, even if he's in my room,
26:46he's no father of mine.
26:48That's for sure.
26:48I can't hear you, darling.
26:51Sorry, what?
26:52I only want to...
26:54I want to see now, I'll just run him out.
26:56We'll all just get home.
26:58I think you're brilliant.
26:59The DNA test is like, sure that Kevin...
27:02Cherise is yours.
27:05Hold on a second.
27:05Hold on.
27:06Stay there, Cherise.
27:07You better than that.
27:08Sit down.
27:09Go on, then.
27:09I apologise for your disgusting text.
27:11Go on.
27:12Why should I actually turn around?
27:13Because you're a liar, that's right.
27:14No, she turn around, tell me.
27:16Kevin, he's not her dad.
27:17You're awful, you are.
27:18Do you know that?
27:18You're absolutely awful.
27:20You deserve...
27:20Well, no, you don't deserve anything.
27:22I'm trying to warn you, but you're not going to listen.
27:23Because you're like, oh, I love him.
27:24He's different.
27:25No, he's not.
27:26He's a thug.
27:28Elliot, what does this mean?
27:3118 years.
27:32Well, if he's not me dad, all the stuff he's done, I'd rather him not be me dad and not
27:38have him in me life.
27:39Then I just know my dad's a disappointment.
27:41But if he's me dad, then I know it's much worse than that.
27:44Because of what he's done.
27:45The DNA test results show that Kevin, he is your father, pal.
27:51Anything to say?
27:53I didn't know.
27:56What did you say?
27:56I said I didn't know.
27:58You did know.
28:00You're terrible, mate.
28:01You did know.
28:02There are people that come out here, right, and over 12 years, and people come out and
28:06they go, you're the world's worst father, you're the world's worst mother, and we get
28:09somewhere.
28:09Do you know the thing about you is, there isn't an ounce of apology or regret or an admission
28:16that you've messed up.
28:17There's nothing contrite about you.
28:19You, it's all about you and how you're hard done by and how you didn't know where they
28:25live or you didn't know.
28:27Forget the women that have brought up the scores of kids that you've co-created on their own,
28:32have been abused, have been lied to, and then the aftermath is the kids who have started
28:37their life without a father figure and still you sit there, clasping hold of your latest
28:41squeeze, not saying anything.
28:4318 years.
28:44Look at that kid.
28:46Nothing, no?
28:46I'll tell you what, thanks.
28:47You three go that way, you go that way.
28:50Not you, not you, not me.
28:52Thanks guys.
28:53Started with him.
28:54Come on.
28:55Can you speak without Alison?
28:57Of course I can.
28:58Can you?
28:59That's your son.
29:00Yeah, okay.
29:01Why did you leave?
29:02Because me and your mum split up.
29:04Why did you split up?
29:05Because of what your mum was doing.
29:06What was she doing?
29:07Playing away.
29:08Playing away?
29:09Yes.
29:10You want the truth?
29:10She was playing away.
29:11All right.
29:12Even on our wedding day, she didn't come back out on the night.
29:14You was on and off for two years.
29:15There's no apology or acknowledgement for what you've done.
29:19I am sorry.
29:20Not to me, you donut.
29:22Elliot, I am sorry for what's happened to you.
29:24There was nothing I could do.
29:25If there was something I could have done, I would have done it.
29:26People like you wring their hands, don't they?
29:28All right.
29:29So, you know, when I got in contact with you, let's say, about a month and a half ago,
29:32it was that, yeah?
29:33Yeah.
29:34And I was asking you all these questions, all these things, right, and you wasn't really
29:37answering me.
29:38It was more of excuses.
29:39And then when I spoke to Alison, Alison's the only person I could actually get any sense
29:43out of.
29:43She was speaking for you.
29:44Yeah.
29:45You found out you had a son after 18 years old and you asked me to go to Seaham, 200
29:49miles
29:49away, which is two trains, which is nearly 150, 180 quid on the train.
29:54I'm 18, I've got a flat and I've got a baby to look after.
29:56Why couldn't you come to me?
30:06You know what?
30:07I've finished so many of these stories like this, and here's the thing.
30:10You'll leave here today feeling that you're right and the world's against you and your
30:14girlfriend will, you know, she'll say, oh, that was awful, we love you, you're fine,
30:18you're great.
30:18You'll go home to your life and you'll get on.
30:20But do you know what you should be saying?
30:22You should be saying, I'm sorry, I messed up.
30:24But more than anything, this kid's amazing and the way he's turned out is absolutely
30:28nothing to do with you.
30:30And if you were me, if I was you rather, that would kill me, mate, because he's all right.
30:34He's made some mistakes, but he's learnt from them.
30:36Do you know the thing about this kid is he isn't blaming anybody for his life.
30:39He's not blaming you.
30:40He's not bitter.
30:41He's getting on.
30:42And you're going to miss out on that, but you don't give a damn, do you?
30:44Because you spent your life and you've proven it this morning running away and somebody
30:48runs after you.
30:49Do you know what I'm going to say on his behalf and every other kid, why don't you
30:51run away forever and hide under a stone with your girlfriend and never come back?
30:55Because that would be the best thing you could do for all of these kids.
30:58Really?
30:58Oh, you're not going to do it now?
30:59He doesn't need you in his life.
31:00Why would he want you in his life?
31:02I actually don't.
31:03You ain't a man, but I've become one by raising me child.
31:18You know the hardest thing in the world, right?
31:20Listen, I'm an old man.
31:22I could be all of you dead.
31:22Sit over there.
31:23Actually, give me that stool, please.
31:24Too many people.
31:25Sit there.
31:29People come here every day and they want to find answers or they want to find the person
31:33or they want to do whatever.
31:34Look at me and I know that's highly charged out there and he is your dad and it's easy
31:38for me to be black and white about this, but do you want to know something, a bit of advice?
31:41Sometimes you can bang your head against a wall forever and you know what?
31:45You've got each other.
31:46You've obviously got lives.
31:47You've got a baby.
31:48You've got kids.
31:49What are you getting from that?
31:51That can't even face up.
31:52He just run away forever and in the end, you just bang your head against the wall and go,
31:56I'm just going to get excuses forever.
31:57I'm worth more than that, mate.
31:59I think all of you, I think respect you for even coming in.
32:01That's all about those of these.
32:02He's done with now.
32:04Nobody wants to know him.
32:06His kids are going to know that nobody wants to know him.
32:08The main thing is now is that we're all together.
32:11We all look after each other and from his mistake, we can turn it into something positive.
32:15I think that the three of you are fantastic and I'm sorry you haven't had the best start,
32:19but listen, stay tight with each other.
32:20I love you, by the way.
32:21Brilliant.
32:22You want her in your bow.
32:23I love you.
32:24You can indeed.
32:24Give him a round of applause.
32:25Really nice to meet you.
32:26Thank you, guys.
32:34My next guest today, Amy, is here for life-changing DNA results to find out if the girl she's been
32:38searching for for the last 10 years is in fact her sister.
32:42Now, unbelievably, Amy's potential sister, Katisha, had no idea that Amy existed up until just a few months ago and
32:49only found out since then that the man that had been raising her all of her life might not indeed
32:54be her biological father.
32:55This is a massive, massive day for these two girls.
32:58We'll star with Amy, 19 years of age.
33:00Give her a big round of applause, guys.
33:11Well, tissues, please.
33:12I'm so sorry.
33:13And I know this is difficult and I know it's horrible, but you do want to do this.
33:16Can you sit back a little bit for me?
33:17I'm going to...
33:18This is a shocking story, guys.
33:22You...
33:24You were brought up by your mum.
33:27Yeah.
33:28Were you brought up by your dad as well?
33:30No.
33:31You knew that your dad was Mark.
33:33Yeah.
33:34That's what you were told.
33:35Several years ago, tragically, Mark...
33:38Passed away.
33:39Passed away.
33:39Well, she's very difficult at such a young age.
33:41Now, let's bring Katisha, your potential half-sister, in.
33:45Your dad, Mark, before he died, or your mum told you?
33:48My mum told me when I was very young...
33:51What did she say?
33:53That I'd know the sister.
33:54She told me her name.
33:57And then I asked a bit about her, but obviously my mum didn't have.
34:00She only knew her name.
34:02And then, from the age of about nine, I just wanted to find her.
34:07You say, interestingly, and I'd love you for this, she said,
34:09I've always wanted an older sister and someone to look out for.
34:12I've always felt that there's something missing.
34:17You met her last week for the first time.
34:20You say, we got on really well.
34:22We did.
34:23Like, that part of me just felt like it.
34:25She wants to come out and hug you straight away.
34:27Get out here, Katisha.
34:28Give her a round of applause.
34:40I'm so sorry, guys, because I know this is so, so difficult.
34:46Katisha, thank you for being here.
34:48This is, even by my standards, this is shocking.
34:51I know it's very emotional.
34:52I need to go through the story.
34:53Is that okay?
34:55You find each other a while ago.
34:58You say, we've become inseparable since we first met.
35:01So, that's your side of the story.
35:03Mum brings you up.
35:05You're aware that there's an older sister.
35:07Your dad, Mark, passed several years ago.
35:10Katisha, welcome to the show.
35:12Even more shockingly, you had absolutely no idea about Amy.
35:18No, nothing.
35:18Your dad, Darren, that's who you always believed.
35:22I believe that was my dad, yeah.
35:23Now, Darren, the guy you believed was your father, he couldn't be here today.
35:28He's done a statement.
35:29I'm sorry that I can't be there.
35:30I know how important this is to Katisha.
35:32I've always been led to believe that she was my daughter.
35:33I only found out last week there's a chance she's not.
35:35I was gutted, and when she told me, I hope the DNA proves that Katisha is my daughter.
35:39However, regardless of the results, nothing will change.
35:41Petunia, she will always be my girl.
35:44It's a mess, right?
35:45It is a mess, yeah, and I just want the answers.
35:47I just want to...
35:48When I first met Amy, it was last week, she come to my house, and I've always said a part
35:57of it's been missing.
35:58And when she came to my house, it felt right.
36:01I know that's Azman, but it felt right.
36:05But like I said, I've come here today, and I'm expecting the worst, because...
36:11What would the worst be?
36:15Darren not to be my dad.
36:16Like I said, I've believed Darren to be my dad all my life.
36:19Darlene, I'm simply paid to read this, okay?
36:24The DNA test results show that Darren...
36:28is not your biological...
36:32Can somebody please, seriously, guys, come here, darling, come here.
36:36Amy, Amy.
36:42She's going to hate her.
36:43Who's going to hate you?
36:45Who?
36:46She thinks you're going to hate her.
36:49She thinks you're going to hate her.
36:50No, no, never.
37:04She thinks you're going to blame her for this.
37:08Hey, guys, look at me.
37:11Your heart.
37:12Oh, my God!
37:13Oh, my God!
37:15Oh, my God!
37:16Oh, my God!
37:17Oh, my God!
37:18Oh, my God!
37:19Is this true?
37:21No, listen to me, listen to me, listen to me, listen to me, please, listen to me, listen
37:26to me, listen to me, listen to me, please, calm down, listen to me, listen.
37:29As far as I understand, as much as I understand, you are half-sisters, you are sisters.
37:33I thank you so much for doing this for me, you know, the crisis.
37:37The closure I need today.
37:39Oh, she's your sister, mate.
37:40She said to me, she said she's going to blame me.
37:43This is what she just...
37:44No, no, no, no, no, no.
37:45She'll look after you, mate.
37:46No, no, no, no.
37:47I always told you, right?
37:48I've always told you.
37:49I've got a sister.
37:50Ten years she's been looking for you.
37:52I've always told you.
37:52If I came back, we were sisters.
37:54If I came back, we were sisters, you're living in my house tomorrow with me, because you're
37:56coming to meet me and I'm going to look after you, because I just want to be there
37:58for you, and we've missed out on so much.
38:00We need this.
38:02We need this.
38:03We need this.
38:04We need this.
38:04I've never expected this.
38:05I expect you.
38:06Do you know what?
38:06I expect you to come out.
38:08It is.
38:09We've never been going.
38:12I'm not going to prolong this.
38:13Graham is here.
38:14You kiss him.
38:15It's all going very well, isn't it?
38:20So you think, in your heart of arcs, that this guy is getting it, you know, elsewhere.
38:25He says, I am sick to death of having to prove it to this girl.
38:28She's a paranoid player in the backside who's out to hurt me and I've had enough.
38:35Get away from me!
38:42Do you think you're being lied to?
38:44Do you have evidence to prove it, like home videos, recordings or texts that you want
38:48to confront someone with?
38:50If you're 18 or over and you'd like to be considered for the show, email talk at ITV.com
38:55along with your number.
38:56Text TALK plus your name to 63334.
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39:17Right, you might remember my next guest from a previous encounter on this very stage.
39:22Take a look at this.
39:24Claire admitted before she went into the test she had sex with two other men.
39:28She said she slept with each man on one occasion.
39:30She's only told Martin about one.
39:32So we changed the question.
39:33Since the start of your relationship we asked, uh, Claire, with Martin, apart from what you've
39:37just admitted to, have you passionately kissed someone else?
39:40Anyone else?
39:40You said no.
39:41Why did you say no?
39:42It was just two, was it?
39:43Yeah.
39:44Why does this test say you're lying then?
39:45I didn't lie.
39:47Since the start of your relationship, Martin, apart from what you've admitted to,
39:49have you had sexual contact with anyone else?
39:51She said no.
39:52She lied on that question.
39:53And finally, I know you won't be surprised, pal.
39:57Look at me.
39:57No, I haven't.
39:58One last night, two today, and failed every single question.
40:02I don't know how that is, because I guarantee you there's only two.
40:08So, Martin, Martin, Martin, Martin, Martin, listen mate.
40:12What are you doing out here?
40:14Is that done?
40:14I'm going.
40:15That is mine.
40:16And I'll guarantee you.
40:16It was like two people.
40:19I told you.
40:20Why did you fail the test then?
40:21I've got no reason to lie.
40:21Why did you fail the test then?
40:22Why did you fail the test?
40:23I've never lied to you enough.
40:24I've never lied to you enough.
40:25You know what?
40:26Oh, that's it.
40:27You think he's going to run after you.
40:28I'm going to make sure he doesn't.
40:31Well, I hate to say this, but Claire is back.
40:34She says that since the last show, her and Martin haven't had sex.
40:38She's seen a suspicious text on his phone and suspects he could be doing the dirty.
40:42She says, today I want to know if this bloke is what I think he is or not.
40:46Claire's back on the Jeremy Kyle show that way.
40:56Why are you not happy?
40:58It's him.
40:59I'm fed off of it.
41:00How long you been with Martin?
41:01Four years now.
41:02On and off.
41:02I never know what on and off means.
41:04It sounds like a cargo ferry.
41:05He kicked me out and we weren't together for six months.
41:08You were going to get married though.
41:09Everything was going great.
41:10You know, he doesn't talk about marriage.
41:12He doesn't tell me he loves me.
41:13He doesn't show me any affection.
41:15I'm fed off of it now.
41:17How long is it since you had sex?
41:18Since the beginning of the year.
41:21I offered it in to him on a plate last night and he still turned me down.
41:25All I got was a little cheeky grin.
41:27No, I'm not interested.
41:28You say you see him about 10 minutes a day if you're lucky.
41:30You text him.
41:31You call him.
41:31He doesn't make any effort whatsoever.
41:33As a woman your intuition says that he's messing around.
41:36He thinks he's all that.
41:37He's very vain.
41:38Is he?
41:38Yeah.
41:39Do you know what?
41:39I'm just ready to walk.
41:40I'm fed up.
41:41So you're saying that if he fails today, you're done.
41:44You haven't had sex for a long time.
41:46You've tried everything.
41:46You've tried stripping off, dressing up, going out, staying in.
41:49Even the counselling that you offered us last time.
41:52I said to him, should we call up and start booking the session then?
41:55And he's like, no, I'm not interested.
41:57So you think in your art of arts that this guy is getting it, you know, elsewhere.
42:02He says, I am sick to death of having to prove it to this girl.
42:05She's a paranoid pain in the backside who's out to hurt me and I've had enough.
42:09This will be fun.
42:10Martin's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way.
42:20Hi, Mark.
42:21What's going on?
42:22She gave it to you on a plate.
42:23There she was last night.
42:25Everything and you...
42:26Why did you say no?
42:29Dunno, really.
42:30If any bloke hasn't had sex for two months, they're going to be gagging for it, usually.
42:35On a serious note, she thinks she's getting it elsewhere because you don't want to tell him.
42:39Yeah, I'm fed up.
42:40You don't tell me you love me, right?
42:42You don't show me love and affection.
42:43You'd rather be doing something else.
42:45You don't even bother coming to see me.
42:47You don't even invite me around to yours where you're allowed visitors.
42:50And you can even have visitors stay overnight and it costs £10.
42:53I know the rules.
42:55Do you not fancy her anymore?
42:57Yeah.
42:58Well, why don't you...
42:59What's the word?
43:00Why don't you show me any affection?
43:02After the last show, we offered you mediation.
43:04We organised the whole thing.
43:04You weren't interested.
43:05Why not?
43:05That tells me you don't want to make it work with this woman.
43:07What's the story?
43:08I didn't know nothing about the...
43:10You did!
43:10Because I showed it to you.
43:11I said, why don't we call up and make an appointment?
43:13And you're like, no, I'm not interested.
43:16What's the situation?
43:17Is she just mithering your head and you can't be bothered because it's doing you nothing?
43:20What's the truth?
43:21I've been honest from the beginning.
43:22Not you, him!
43:23Come on!
43:24Big boy, speak!
43:25The truth is...
43:26Yes!
43:27That I do love her.
43:28Yes!
43:29And I want to be with her, but I cannot handle, yeah, these allegations of making...
43:35I never made an allegation.
43:36Wait!
43:36We've said more than two sentences.
43:38Go on!
43:39Accusing.
43:39She's always...
43:41Accusing me of, yeah, being somewhere else, being probably with some other person.
43:46It's the truth not that, Ashley, this is a woman that's a bit rich.
43:48She cheated on you, she failed the lie detector, now she's nagging you.
43:51You probably think she's paranoid or it's out of guilt and it's driving you nuts,
43:54which is going to make you less attracted to him because, frankly,
43:56he probably doesn't want to be anywhere near you
43:58because every time you open your mouth, you keep accusing him.
44:01Is that what we're saying?
44:02Yeah.
44:02Are you going to pass the test?
44:04Fair time, yeah.
44:06How many people in this audience think that Martin is going to pass the test?
44:11Most people in this audience think you're going to pass.
44:13We asked Martin, since your last lie detector,
44:16have you passionately kissed any other woman than Claire?
44:18You said no.
44:19Why didn't you say no?
44:21It's ain't true.
44:22Sorry?
44:22It's ain't true.
44:23Write the grin off your face.
44:24This test says you're a liar, pal.
44:30Since your last lie detector, have you had sexual contact with anybody other than Claire?
44:34You said no.
44:35This test says you were lying.
44:36And since your last lie detector, have you had sexual intercourse with anyone other than Claire?
44:40You said no.
44:41This test says you failed every single question, pal.
44:55Get away from me!
44:57Right.
44:57This?
44:58Yeah, right.
44:58Get away from me!
45:00Right, so it's alright for you!
45:01Get away from me!
45:02It's alright for you!
45:03You've had no idea.
45:04I've never done anything!
45:07You always know I'm 24-7!
45:10Are you cheating on me?
45:12So you did cheat on her, didn't you?
45:14Well why did you fail the test then?
45:15At least have the man enough to say
45:17You just said to her, you did it
45:19Everyone told me all along to leave you
45:23Yeah, but you cheated on him, didn't you?
45:26No, I did not do anything
45:28So you believe her test, but not yours
45:29Right, I'm not
45:31You cheated, didn't you? Something happened
45:33And if you go to that test and you're lying
45:35It will have you out as a lie
45:36Just man up and grow a pair and tell the truth
45:38Something happened, didn't it?
45:39Oi, come here
45:44When a man or a woman says to me
45:46I didn't sleep with them
45:47No, but if you go into that test and like
45:50Something happened with somebody and that's made you out
45:52To be a liar, I've told you
45:53I've told everybody before, you went into that test
45:56Lying, you know you did, tell her the truth
45:57Go and be a man for the first, she's going to do one mate
45:59I'm telling you categorically
46:01You know who it is, yeah
46:02That was the best thing that ever happened to you
46:04You did cheat on him
46:05No, I didn't
46:07Oh, so your tests are wrong and is he's right, yeah?
46:10You're as bad as each other, aren't you?
46:12He's not the ear displaying why he doesn't want anything from me
46:16It's over between us
46:18It's over
46:18I'm not bad, right?
46:19Is it really over?
46:20I don't want nothing to do with him anymore
46:22She doesn't want to be with you anymore
46:24So what happens now?
46:25What can I do?
46:26You're happy though, aren't you?
46:28No, I'm not happy
46:29You knew it was going to do that
46:30You don't want to be with her
46:31You don't talk to her
46:31You don't see, you don't hang out with her
46:33You don't do anything
46:34You'd rather be
46:35At least be man enough to tell her
46:37I am saying the truth
46:38Nothing happened here, right?
46:40Between me and this other person
46:41Where is she?
46:42You believe that test, right?
46:43Yeah
46:44Martin, get here
46:45Yeah
46:47What's happening?
46:48I'm busy
46:48It's over
46:49Nothing happened to me
46:51It's over
46:52You fell the test then
46:53Who was it then?
46:54You know her
46:55Who was it then?
46:56Yeah?
46:57Who was it?
46:58I know her
46:59I know her
47:00I know her
47:01But if it wasn't her
47:02Then it was obviously someone else
47:04It doesn't matter who it was
47:05What did happen?
47:06What did happen?
47:07I do not know
47:09Nothing happened
47:10Something happened
47:11Nothing happened
47:12Because I didn't explain why you're not interested in sleeping with me
47:14Not even interested in meeting up with me
47:16You weren't even with me that day
47:18So basically that gives you the beating
47:20Yeah, right?
47:21You don't love me
47:22You think I'm
47:23Do you know what?
47:23I'm fed up
47:23It's over between us
47:24Stay away from me
47:26Delete my number
47:26So here's the thing that's really interesting
47:28And then I'm going to finish
47:28The fact is when approached
47:31And when this is said to you
47:33You come and talk about one particular woman
47:35Which means that something quite patently has made you lie about that situation
47:39Which has made you out to be a liar
47:40Because you haven't gone
47:42I didn't do anything
47:43The first thing out of your mouth was
47:44I didn't do anything with that woman
47:46Why would you say that?
47:47Unless you had something to hide
47:48I haven't got nowhere to hide
47:49You're a liar mate
47:50It's written all over your face
47:51Honestly
47:51You're a vain
47:53Do you know what?
47:54You haven't even said I could do better than you
47:56And I'm listening to you
47:58And I'm taking my eyes
47:59Do I ever call you names?
48:01No you don't even call me
48:02Right
48:02It's always me calling you
48:03Right
48:04Do you want to be with him?
48:06Not now no
48:07Do you want to be with
48:07It explains everything mate
48:09At least I don't want to be with you
48:10Of course I want
48:11What can I say
48:12Of course I want to be with her
48:13Tell her the truth you gutless piece of
48:14Of course I
48:15I want to be with her
48:16Well then why'd you cheat on her?
48:18Do you know what?
48:18I must be able to get more attention from him
48:20Oh
48:20Yeah
48:21I must be able to get more attention from him than you
48:24I don't want more attention from him today than I've ever had for you in the last four years
48:29At least he come up and say hello to me how I am
48:33Sorry Mr. Kerr
48:33How do you feel about that?
48:34Yeah Mr. Kerr
48:35Yeah okay
48:36So what happens now?
48:37We've got our separate eyes
48:38I don't want nothing more to do with him
48:40Thank you
48:41Thank you
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