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00:00Welcome to Beyond the Tape, I'm your host Mark Bassan. Welcome to our viewers across Trinidad and
00:13Tobago and of course across the world. It's day 74 of the state of emergency and of course also
00:20of concern is you know in the last couple of weeks we have been having reports of our home
00:26invasions and elderly people being killed and of course we would like to obviously welcome today
00:33acting ASP Ishmael Pitt of the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service who will obviously be able to shed
00:39a little more light and I know this yesterday afternoon in the area that you are you police
00:44and northern division the 60-something year old woman was discovered dead in her home. Yeah yes
00:52correct. Pleasant evening Mark, pleasant evening Trinidad and Tobago. Yes we encountered the body of
00:59Judith Harris at her home phase four Malabar Rema yesterday afternoon. The circumstances and how the
01:07body was found suggests it is indeed a homicide and you are correct regarding home invasion it
01:13is something that you know the invasion of one's privacy, the invasion of one's home and the
01:19invasion of one's castle as it was dubbed by a judicial officer some years ago is something that
01:26we ought to take very very very serious and you know the term home invasion in itself is not
01:33necessarily localized it's one that we have adopted from North America. We have different
01:39ways of classifying what we'll call persons entering person's home in terms of either
01:44burglary, housebreaking and larceny. It could even be a robbery situation where persons had
01:51entered the home if it's probably by daylight or what have you but nonetheless we put it into a
01:55category of home invasion and we have seen where elderly persons have fallen victim. It tells us
02:03something regarding the the support system if you would call it that not that we are blaming anyone
02:12and you know we ought to be very careful where that is concerned but where we have persons who
02:18reside alone you know that that level of communication at level of support that that
02:24that oversight if you would call it that must be consistent in order for us to ensure that our
02:32senior citizens recognize and have that that type of guardianship that is necessary to preserve their
02:41safety and security. Yeah and I know that you know talking to a number of intelligence officers
02:46over the last few months they've been seeing a particular trend where a lot of gangs are kind
02:52of gravitating and splintering and you have these persons who are actually forming home invasion
03:01teams across the East West Corridor and Central and South Trinidad as well to a less extent of
03:07course and we had an incident where unfortunately another lady lost her life in a similar incident
03:12during the carnival period in Chaguanas and I think her family buried her you know in the last
03:18day or two and we want to offer our condolences to her family on her passing I can't recall the name
03:24at this juncture but I know it was in similar circumstances because they found that lady also
03:30with her hands tied behind her back and so on so it's indicative that obviously I would like you
03:35to impart on to the citizenry and especially the elderly you know population how to safeguard
03:44themselves you know going forward and you know a lot of them do business by themselves go to the
03:49bank come back and people tend to be monitoring and looking at their movements over a period of
03:54time before they decide okay that person is by living by themselves very easy target to prey on
04:01let's do let's do this yeah and there are several tips with that there are several actions that we
04:07could take several initiatives apparatus if you would call it that that we could install you know
04:17in order to make our homes our targets just as simple as having a dog yes right man's best friend
04:25that age old level of security burglar proofing alarm systems even the cameras persons tend to
04:37think that the cameras only there for when things it when something it has happened and we are now
04:44going back into time but there are persons who as you mentioned who are organized and at times
04:51they may observe something that might deter them from doing what they had intended to do in the
04:55first place yes in addition to that that that choice we make at times regarding the so-called
05:03handyman those choices are sometimes fatal because as much as you mentioned those persons who are
05:11much more organized there are also those who our senior citizens have grown to trust yes and for
05:19that reason they have given them access to different parts of their homes and they are now
05:25in a position where they can violate that trust and they have in some instances violated that
05:31trust so we ought to be careful regarding the choices that we make in terms of the so-called
05:37handyman and even persons we may invite to carry out various chores that might warrant a particular
05:47skill set plumbing electrical air conditioning you know we would have to bring in persons in
05:54order to carry out these roles and function what do we know about these persons yes well
06:00my mother was a website that I think another officer was on your show I think was Mr. Shabody
06:07a couple weeks ago where this website created by a gentleman enables the personal persons to go
06:16onto that website and check everything conceivable about that individual because they do background
06:21checks with the assistance of the police on these electricians plumbers etc so it gives you a an
06:28added buffer of safety when you invite these people into your homes yes and that's excellent
06:35unfortunately I can't expound much on that but I'm thinking it's one where persons who are of repute
06:43would advance their information upload it as it were to this platform so that persons now who are
06:50desirous of having a particular service it's it's easy for them to have that reference and determine
06:56right this individual is xyz as the case may be so that is fantastic and it's one that you know
07:02we would promote going forward uh outside of that if it is that that persons are not that tech savvy
07:10and they are unable to access certain things you know you can have conversations with your
07:16neighbors your family the the police in your community in order to get information about
07:23persons who you may want to invite into your space to carry out whatever activity so mark there are
07:29so many things that we may take for granted when it comes to home security we may take for granted
07:36even the relationship we have with our neighbors we would take for granted sometimes the fact that
07:41we may have left a ladder at a particular place that could contribute to someone even entering
07:46your home so we need to be holistic in terms of how we analyze home security in order to make our
07:53space harder targets yeah and one of the other things just on our side is that there are also
07:58some of these security companies that offer packages that are fairly economical now we also
08:04have um also a panic button yes so that when you press that panic button within five to seven
08:12minutes security personnel arise at your home and it's not extremely costly right so that is
08:18something that you could also look at you know even the relatives of these elderly persons
08:22to help safeguard them if they're living alone i'm glad that you you mentioned that you know
08:28the panic button is something that it's it's old technology and sometimes we replace things
08:35as opposed to adding layers so for example in terms of vehicular security we had the steering
08:42clamps right now we have replaced it with the trackers and other means of uh you know stopping
08:50the ignition from doing whatever it's supposed to do to get the vehicle started but persons have
08:54become more innovative and they are now able to bypass the technological aspect of of things
09:01um however if it is we had maintained what was there before in terms of the physical apparatus
09:08then it would have made it more difficult so even though you you are able to overcome in one instance
09:13you still have this physical barrier that is there so we are saying to add to your point um don't
09:20discard but just build upon so the panic button is something that has been used successfully
09:25internationally by even established organizations such as banks in order to alert the authorities
09:32when something is happening alert you understand so um it is something that indeed we should
09:39consider we should deeply consider when we are looking at um you know whatever security we could
09:45certainly all right today is day 74 of the state of emergency and we just want to take a look at
09:52the figures thus far yes so day 74 number of operations 3,767 uh the amount of uh priority
10:01offenders targeted 2,690 searches conducted 25,990 traffic operations 33,359 total persons
10:13arrested 2,867 traffic offenses detected 13,013 firearms recovered 133 ammunition recovered
10:243,309 dangerous drugs seized 328,000 grams that is over 328,000 grams and 2,945 grams
10:350.4 grams of cocaine 73 grams of SSE and five grams of crystal meth so again a tremendous
10:43amount of work being done regarding the SOE and we know that as an organization we just came out of
10:50having that mama task of also managing carnival and with that maintaining regular police operations
10:59so it was by no means mark and easy undertaken um but we were able to manage
11:05right certainly all right let's take a look now at our headlines
11:29so
11:36and after this break we'll tell you about a head found in a cooler in sipara stay with us
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13:50my dear friends here we are all in our true colors
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14:53welcome back to beyond the tape i'm your host marcus and joined today by acting asp ishmael
14:57pitt of the trinidad and tobago police service and just a couple hours ago police made a very
15:04gruesome discovery in isipare area of a decapitated head inside of a cooler
15:15we don't have a lot of information but certainly it's a really really uh you know horrific way to
15:22to die yeah indeed and we have been seeing a particular type of of of crime um it's not
15:32always consistent but it it comes up ever so often yes and it's uh indicative of
15:42crimes consistent with other geographic spaces yes and with that you know as an organizer as
15:49an organization and even as a society um we need to analyze deeply the type of influence
15:58that is impacting us um you know it it is never an easy thing to observe things like this there
16:06is something called transfer trauma and and with that just having these sites could impact you and
16:13it could impact you negatively um having said that you know anyone with information um please
16:18communicate with the region region three homicide department or the nearest police station um
16:24regarding this uh homicide and of course these kinds of killings and correct me if i'm wrong
16:30there's always a particular message you send when you you don't see this very often yes but when it
16:37when it resonates with you and you see it happen you know that it's connected to something even
16:42more sinister than what it really might exactly and and that's exactly what i was alluding to
16:47you know it's indicative of a particular type of crime that is consistent with other jurisdictions
16:54and yes it is also consistent with a particular crime type but outside of having the the necessary
17:02information and outside of the investigation at this point in time you know we we just we
17:06speculated yes of course and of course um you know the the police immigration and other authorities
17:14have been working hand in hand on the roadways of Trinidad and Tobago over the last few months and
17:20we want to take you to our road exercise um where this was quite present
17:28i remember the immigration officer and the granny this young lady here was the passenger in the
17:33vehicle and she didn't have any identification on her she produced one from her cell phone
17:37we checked the identity based on the data booth and her name and she is illegal in the country
17:42so we're going to carry her to the granny's station
17:57so very classic example there acting as a puppet of that collaborative effort between the immigration
18:06license and of course the police there where they were able to to stop a driver
18:11realize um looking at her id and so on and then they ask her about her documents yes
18:19entering the country and it seemed that she was here legally yeah it appears so
18:24you know oftentimes uh traffic operations are discounted um and it's largely because they
18:32at times offer some level of inconvenience and we often have to come on and justify and defend
18:40the rationale behind having these traffic operations traffic operations are very very
18:46significant and i'm using the word traffic and that term in itself tends to trivialize the
18:53importance of that type of operation but the roadways are the the veins of the society if
18:59you would call it that and to move from point a to point b persons would utilize vehicles yes so
19:05the management of the roadways are of paramount importance and it's really a joy when we have
19:12these multi-agency approaches to management of the roadways because during those operations
19:18you can pounce upon all type of offenses offenses that would not just be limited to what we call
19:24traffic offenses but they could go far and wide as far as investigations are concerned yeah and
19:30you're right because i remember in the last couple of weeks uh during the state of emergency we had
19:36some big drug hauls during traffic exercises on the highway remember there was a vehicle i was
19:42stopped and there was a heavy a huge quantity of cocaine and so on then there was another incident
19:47in the port of spain area where they would have intercepted a vehicle with two men they found a
19:52substantive amount of cash and i think some narcotics as well so all in all these traffic
19:58offenses as you would have indicated extremely important um you know because like it or not we
20:05know that these criminals traverse the road yes using various vehicles that's right it might be
20:11high-end vehicles to do any kind of illicit activity you are absolutely correct and for that
20:18reason we will continue and we will continue to ask john public you know to uh how to put it
20:26please provide that level of support i know it may sound cliche uh in the sense that it is
20:33something that impacts you you have worked all day not just not to take away marshall's song
20:38but you have work all day and you want to just reach home and enjoy that that space with your
20:45family and and from point a to point b you are now um placed in a position where you have to
20:52endure a traffic stop you know so it's not easy putting ourselves into the um shoes of other
20:58persons the the traveling public the general public um but i can assure you that they are
21:03absolutely necessary all right i think we have a call on the line caller good evening
21:08good evening
21:11good evening caller yes sir good day sir we're listening you speak yes sir your line yes good
21:20day gentlemen uh mr martin santor and
21:28now i read on the newspaper today that um
21:32um that members of certain gangs are leaving this country and going to england and seeking
21:48asylum and that was one of the reasons why uh visas to the united kingdom was suspended
22:01my question is is there an extradition process existing between the united kingdom and trailer
22:13and tobago and if the answer is yes has any extradition proceeding been initiated against
22:24these gang members because the article that i read gave the impression that these guys were
22:32safe in england and nothing could be done to bring them back so i'm hoping that you could
22:39shed some light on thank you caller and good evening for that matter um i wouldn't be able
22:48to answer that question conclusively at this point in time i will get the information for
22:54you and and provide that information um either next week or through the person who will be
22:58representing the ttps tomorrow please god but but in a general sense acting as people in a very
23:05general sense here if somebody is not charged with an offense a suspicion is not enough to
23:12detail them from their movements so you might be suspected of being x y or z however that is not
23:19enough for authorities here or anywhere for matter of fact to stop you from moving from one country
23:25to the next yeah now they can the authorities here can obviously inform the authorities on
23:31the other side of the world about suspected persons being suspected gang members as in
23:38this case or whatever and then it's based on that determination the authorities there can make a
23:45judgment call to send them back yeah but if they have not committed an offense there or here and
23:53they went across they're running you can't just extradite them yes but there are different types
23:58of um extradition treaties if you should call it that yes and we are aware that um in certain
24:04jurisdictions uh you don't have to commit any offense over here or you may not even have to
24:10commit an offense over there it could be something different it could be something separate it could
24:14be something that that society deemed to be unacceptable and they would extradite you based
24:21on whatever treaty it is so um in looking at that we may have to look at exactly what is in place
24:28between Trinidad and Tobago and the United Kingdom you know just to specifically answer
24:34the caller's question because um other jurisdiction as we would know and I'm seeing it clear because
24:39we are all familiar with um a different type of process based on a different jurisdiction
24:45you know it doesn't take much you know for one to be extradited but but you're right that um you
24:49know they speak about you if you're given a visitor visa to go to the United Kingdom
24:54but you're coming there to work on that visitor visa or to seek asylum or any other thing then
24:59obviously that is that contravenes what you have been given that visa for and then you can
25:04in a very simplistic way be sent back yes yes by exploiting these loopholes yes
25:10yes you are correct all right we're going to take a short break and we'll be back stay with us
25:14Ranji, I have no money Ranji.
25:22What do you mean you have no money? Where is the money?
25:25Ranji, I just told you I have no more money.
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28:48A message from the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service.
29:02Welcome to Beyond the Tape. I'm your host, Mark Bassan, joined today by Acting ASP Ishmael Pitt
29:06of the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service, and I'm going to hand it over to you now
29:10to introduce the next segment. Protect yourself, protect yourself. Now, there's a particular crime
29:18type that is very, very sensitive, and it's one that because of the relationship, it is very,
29:26very difficult to manage, you know, even from a policing perspective. And we are appealing
29:35to the public at large to please be observant, please be vigilant where this crime type is
29:43concerned because sometimes the person's involved, the victim's involved. They don't know where to
29:50go for help, and sometimes it's difficult to even reach out for help because you believe that
29:57there's no other avenue this person is providing everything for you, you know. So we would want
30:04members of the public to understand that there's always an option, and for that reason, the TTPS,
30:10we are providing the necessary support, and where we cannot fulfill totally, we are partnering with
30:16other agencies in order to get that type of support that individuals would require.
30:47Relax yourself.
30:56Ranji, I have no money, Ranji.
31:02Ranji, I just told you I have no more money.
31:10Ranji, what are you trying to say there?
31:17Let me understand something, right? I am the man in this house, not you,
31:21right? You understand that? Who's the man in this house?
31:25Right, so here, what are you going to do? You're going in the grocery right now, use your money
31:29and buy groceries and come and cook dinner for me, right? I'm going to shower now.
31:33You understand each other, right?
31:38Ranji, put yourself together again. You are a homeless person. You have to make a report.
31:47Put yourself together again, right? Shut up, I don't see you. Rachel, shit.
31:59Come with me. Oh, they're gonna mistreat me. Shut up. Shut up, they're gonna mistreat me.
32:17I am a woman police constable, Simon, and I am attached to Trinidad and Tobago Police Service.
32:25For many years, the TTPS have adopted a strong approach towards domestic violence,
32:31not only towards women, but towards males as well, despite the popular belief.
32:38The Victim and Witness Support Unit was created to attend to these matters by police officers
32:45who are highly trained and well-equipped to deal with these reports. These said officers
32:52were trained both locally and internationally and are highly victim-centered. If you are a victim
33:00like Ms. Ranji in this video, follow her footsteps and get the help that you may need.
33:07Additionally, if you know of someone who's in a similar situation, I urge you to report it as
33:15well. So, if you see something, say something and save a life.
33:26Very powerful message there, acting ASP. Very, very powerful. I have a question for you.
33:32Do you think domestic violence is everybody's business? Of course. All right. By all means.
33:40Yes. Because there are a lot of persons who would say, that is not my business. What is
33:45happening next door there, that is not my business. And if you're close to someone who is observing,
33:53mind your business. Yes. But you are correct. Domestic violence is everybody's business.
33:59And as such, we are asking persons, if you see something, say something. Yeah, surely. And I
34:05think we would have articulated that a couple weeks back when we saw the incident with the
34:12father beating his daughter with what appeared to be a huge piece of wood. And a lot of people were
34:19saying online and on social media that this had been happening for quite a while in the community.
34:23Yeah. So, why let it go on for so long? Exactly. Just say something. Reach out to somebody if you
34:29don't want to be personally involved and let that person be the person to ignite some kind of action
34:35against that perpetrator. Exactly. Put it on us. Put it on us as the Toronto Police Service.
34:42Put it in our court. All right? And monitor, analyze, assess, even at certain stages,
34:55criticize in terms of how we may manage it. But don't keep the information and tell yourself,
35:04that is not my business. Yeah. All right? You will be being counterproductive. You will not be
35:11helping your community. There's someone who might be involved in a situation who would need,
35:18definitely need your help. And your help could be as simple as saying something. All right. If
35:23you see something, say something. We're going to take a short break and we'll be back. Stay with us.
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37:59From Mason Hall to Whitehall, the closing chapter.
38:03As his final days in office come to a close,
38:06Prime Minister Rowley sits with the media for his final full-length interview.
38:14Be viewing on Thursday at 8 p.m.
39:02Welcome back to Beyond the Tape. I'm your host Mark Bussan, joined today by Acting ASP Ishmael Pitt
39:13of the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service. We want to remind you of the numbers to call 623-1711
39:19extensions 1996 and 1997. And of course we just wanted to kind of continue our discussion about
39:27domestic violence, a very serious matter and it not only affects women or children but also men.
39:34Of course and we know
39:38it was a masculine sort of approach to not even want to go and report that you are a victim of
39:45domestic violence. And to add to that, even at times the TTPS may have dropped the ball
39:55in terms of how we receive men who are victims of domestic violence. Fortunately we have reached
40:03the point where the levels of training that has been afforded to us has brought the organization
40:09to that position where we recognize that both men and women are victims of this particular crime and
40:15it's not because somebody is a man that he ought to be treated differently. And it doesn't even
40:21have to be physical, right? Exactly. Verbally, etc. Exactly. And sometimes we do things and I'm
40:30thinking largely this is what occurred previously where it's not that it was deliberate but even
40:38body language and you know a little smoke here and there could suggest how persons view someone
40:47making a report. And you know as a man you're going into an environment and you are received
40:53with that type of behavior. Automatically the message is sent you know and it makes it difficult
41:00for you to now be able to go on even with the procedure, with the process as the case may be.
41:06So as I said, the TTPS we have grown. You know we continue to learn, we continue to adjust,
41:13we continue to get the necessary training in order to place our officers in positions where
41:19we could treat with things holistically speaking. What would you tell men who are out there and who
41:24are a victim of domestic violence if they are afraid to come forward not only as you said
41:31because of the ridicule of what the public might think or even the police but just I guess the whole
41:39feeling of being so you know not feeling like you are a man in charge. Yeah and you know that's a
41:49that's a very good question because when someone is emasculated if you should call it that
41:55you know it places them in a position where their reaction may not always be acceptable
42:04and we would always ask men who are faced with those type of situations to come forward and
42:11report it. If it is you believe that coming to the station in itself is not something that you may be
42:18comfortable with, you can call the hotlines. There are hotlines as well. You can call our
42:26anonymous lines and the necessary intervention would be provided for you. We have our
42:36victim and witness support unit who are very very capable of providing that level of support,
42:45that level of discussion that would make persons feel comfortable, make you recognize that it's not
42:54a case of your gender and we are not being gender biased and you know make the space totally
42:58comfortable for our clients to provide the information that is necessary for us to further
43:04the report. You know when you talk about making that space comfortable and I'm wondering here
43:10that you know when a man has to open up, do you think you'll feel more comfortable
43:16speaking to a man or rather a woman officer in this case because I feel like if he's interacting
43:22with a man, he will feel really small inside that this man will be, this officer will be judging him
43:30as you can't stand up as a man to this person and so on. Yes. Is it that you, just a question,
43:38I'm just wondering about how the state of mind. I'm thinking it may vary. Different persons view
43:46things differently and it could well be that a man faced with that situation might be more
43:51comfortable speaking with a man and there are other men who might be more comfortable speaking
43:55with a woman. So and I'm glad that you identified that because as an organization we must take these
44:02things into consideration and apply whatever action there is to apply based on the circumstance.
44:10So if it's that, that is what it takes in order to get the person feeling comfortable.
44:15He's feeling comfortable with a woman, we provide a woman. If he's feeling comfortable with a man,
44:19we provide the man in order to get the information to further the investigation.
44:25All right. I think we have a call on the line. Caller, good evening.
44:31Good evening, caller. Caller, good evening. Hello, good afternoon. Yes, go ahead sir, you're live and
44:39we're on the tape. Yes, I just wanted to make some suggestions. I know you have the search and
44:46rescue people on a Monday and you have Ali on a Wednesday and you have the police and so on. I
44:54know it's beyond the tape but I wondered if it could sometimes be a little different, you know,
45:02bringing Darius or somebody like that to talk about what is crime, what is happening in the
45:09Caribbean and around as far as crime is concerned or maybe to also you could bring in somebody
45:16like Dr. Dawson or somebody from the interreligious organization talking about what the evils that
45:23are going on and it's the moral decadence of the society and so on, you know, so people could think
45:31about these things, you know. The last thing I would like to make on is when you run the headlines,
45:38they run them too fast, you can't read anything and not every day we buy the papers, you know.
45:44Thank you very much. Thank you so much for your suggestions and opinions, of course.
45:52My producer is listening in, of course, and she will take it into consideration going forward
45:58for the headlines, of course, and the other things that you mentioned. I guess you want to get a 360
46:04degree perspective, not just from the police or Mr. Rambarat when he's here but other persons
46:10who also contribute or also that kind of knowledge from a different side of defense
46:16that can share that knowledge and integrate what the police are saying with that knowledge
46:22first to better understand the landscape of crime in the country. Yeah. Speaking about a
46:29criminologist perspective. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So certainly we will definitely keep that
46:35under consideration and, of course, my producer is listening. So
46:39I know she heard you loud and clear. Yeah. All right. So we're going to take a
46:44short break and we'll be back. Stay with us.
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48:47building at the no parking sign. Mary returns to her car and this is what happens.
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49:44Welcome back to Beyond the Tape. I'm your host, Mark Bessant with
49:59acting ASP Ishmael Pitt of the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service,
50:03and we have a call online caller. Good evening. I'm asking you to keep your question very short.
50:10Good afternoon, Mr. Bessant. I know I have to be very short.
50:16So I want to speak to Mr. Pitt. Good evening, sir.
50:19Mr. Pitt, excuse me. I wanted to answer this question for me. Which part in the world,
50:26police does play professional football and football in a competition? I know in terms of
50:33military sports, we lied. All military people could take part in it. But then we have an
50:39SAE going on here now. Police playing football. Soldiers playing football. Prisoners playing
50:46football. That's midgeting. That's one. Second, the school of the nation now.
50:52We are in school with the young people. I have a nice suggestion for you.
50:57When you put the kids in to review through the police and you pick up the perpetrators,
51:04give each of the parents five years in jail and put the children in a youth center.
51:09That's it. Thank you. Thank you, sir.
51:12All right. So maybe we'll cut out here. You have three minutes time.
51:18Yeah, that's really the last part. I didn't get all of this question on the last part.
51:23So he spoke of police officers playing football in a state of emergency.
51:30Well, it's perspective. Some persons may see that as a big issue. But we must consider the fact that
51:36health and wellness is very significant. One, two, the interaction between members of the
51:43protective services and the community is very, very important. And it is facilitated through
51:50sports. We are all aware of that. We may at times want to be a bit too rigid in terms of
51:59how we look at law enforcement officers and not consider the fact that law enforcement
52:04officers are human beings as well. And for that matter, it is important for us to have
52:10similar levels of interaction, recreation, sporting opportunities as any other citizen of
52:17Trinidad. Yeah. And I know that even if it's a state of emergency, you might probably work,
52:22you know, 24 and 24 off, but you're entitled to some kind of downtime intermittently because you
52:28don't want to be working straight 48, 72 hours, even more than that. And then you burn out. So
52:34you need to have that balance, I guess. Yes. Balance. Tiffin Marshall thing again.
52:39So I think the major question is if, you know, there's an impact. Yes. Operations. And I'm,
52:48and I'm very confident in seeing that the management of our sportsmen and sportswomen
52:54within the Toronto and Tobago Police Services are such that it does not interfere with our
52:58operational capacity. Yes. Assist me with the last question. I do recall it was a little bit
53:06trying to listen to him. Do forgive us. Yes. You have to forgive us the connection.
53:17Yes. My producer. Yeah. It was something to do with school and parents. Yeah. But I don't want
53:24to, I don't want to assume what he would have said, obviously, but we have about a minute left.
53:30Anything you want to tell the public in that next 50 seconds? Yes. Well, we spoke of home
53:36invasions and we would want the public to consider largely the tips that we have provided this
53:41afternoon. You know, our space, our personal space, our homes, it's our place of that sanctity. And
53:50it's so important for us to safeguard it and not take things for granted. Additionally, when we
53:54look at domestic violence, you put it so succinctly, Mark, domestic violence is everybody's
54:00business. So, let's look across the road and ignore the noises that you are hearing and say,
54:05dynamite business. You know, it's very important that you communicate. For persons who may feel
54:10that there's some gender bias, please know that the organization, which is the Toronto and Tobago
54:16Police Service, we are receptive regarding all reports that would come in our direction.
54:22And of course, the famous words. If you see something, say something. Alright,
54:29repeat tonight at 11 theatre. We run tomorrow at 11 o'clock. The TV6 News is up next. Stay with us.
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