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03:02Welcome to Beyond the Tape.
03:16I'm your host, Mark Bassan.
03:17Welcome to our viewers across Trinidad and Tobago.
03:19Of course, our international viewers and our brothers and sisters in the Isles of Grenada.
03:24And certainly, as we speak to you, our prayers with Jamaica and they are suffering a serious pounding from a Category 5 hurricane, Melissa, that made landfall approximately 1 o'clock this afternoon.
03:40Now, the meteorologist was speaking about the intensity of this particular hurricane.
03:47It's recorded as the most powerful storm for the century.
03:51And the storm chasers who would have been in the eye of this hurricane recorded winds of up to 241 miles per hour.
04:01That is staggering when you think about it.
04:03And it hit Jamaica just around 1 o'clock.
04:06It was supposed to actually hit around 1 a.m. this morning.
04:09However, it sat in the ocean and churned, intensifying before hitting 12 hours later as it continues its destructive path through Jamaica, especially on the southwestern coast.
04:24It has just left, the eye has just left Jamaica and still on the northern coast.
04:29But what they are saying is that a number that the back end of that hurricane is going to even bring more severe winds and rainfall.
04:38And of course, we have seen several images of flooding, roofs being destroyed.
04:45This is a river in Jamaica really overflowing, really, and it's really high.
04:52And I actually saw a video where a gentleman in the midst of this hurricane was trying to climb on his roof with a ladder.
05:03And while he was standing on the ladder, everything came down.
05:07The roof, the part of the roof came down.
05:09He fell off the ladder.
05:10And it's certainly not a wise thing to go out during a hurricane and try to do any kind of repairs or anything for a matter of fact.
05:19And of course, there have been shelters, we understand, for at least 3,000 persons provided, a number of them using the shelters.
05:29We've had reports of a particular hotel in Jamaica where the roof collapsed and, you know, they had to move that area where they had beds and so on.
05:41There are a number of tourists, at least 25,000 tourists visiting Jamaica, according to the Minister of Tourism, Edmund Bartlett, who indicated that so far, thankfully, nobody has been reported.
05:55They have had no casualties of any nature.
05:58Of course, prior to the storm hitting Jamaica, the hurricane that is, they had reported three deaths.
06:04Of course, we would not know the magnitude of the damage or the extent of the damage until perhaps tomorrow morning when the storm passes in full.
06:14But from those images that we are seeing here, that's a house that's virtually covered by water, a house.
06:24So can you imagine the state of these persons?
06:28A lot of them are scared they are probably trapped in certain neighborhoods across Jamaica.
06:34A bridge, I understand, would have collapsed.
06:37There are roadways that are impassable for one reason or the other, falling debris, floodwaters.
06:43We are seeing a number of first responders here who would have been braving that inclement weather over the last six hours to get the persons to assist persons who are in need of assistance.
06:56And certainly, you know, there has been concern across the board and the Prime Minister, of course, is due to also speak, Mr. Holness, a little later tonight to the public, of course, and the employing persons to remain indoors as the rainfall and the heavy winds continue to battle Jamaica as it heads towards Cuba.
07:19And, of course, today with us is none other than Corporal Derek Shabbidi, co-founder of the St. James Police Youth Club.
07:27Welcome, sir. How have you been?
07:29Well, after that introduction, I have to join with you, you know, in extending my prayers to my brothers and sisters in Jamaica.
07:38We are family.
07:39Indeed.
07:40We are family.
07:41This is no time to talk about God is a Trini and Trini is very lucky and fortunate.
07:47Jamaica right now is under serious, catastrophic, a killer storm, as it may be labeled, and we really want to extend our prayers.
07:57And it's good news so far, as you indicated, that no danger, no death, no reports of, and I mean, they say when you hear a storm in the category of five, two, three problems,
08:11but when you have five, you know that Jamaica is getting a good weapon.
08:16I know that, off the record, you were informing me that 24, in 2024 they had one, but not as damning, yes, as this one.
08:25I think the one that a lot of people remember is Hurricane Gilbert back in 1988.
08:30Yes.
08:31That devastated Jamaica.
08:32That's right.
08:33That's the one, yes.
08:34And, you know.
08:35That's the one.
08:36Yeah.
08:37So I just want to, on behalf of the Commissioner Police and all the Triniarians who love Jamaica and love the food and love the culture,
08:45we send our love to you and our prayers, and we trust that in, you know,
08:50and things that the Triniarians will be in a position to give and to, you know, provide some level of service.
08:56It is not a good thing when a storm ravages your home, your community, and by extensions, you know, the beauty of,
09:05and we know that Jamaica's lives rely so much on their tourism.
09:08Yes, indeed.
09:09You know, and I really trust that.
09:11What was that time?
09:12I stand corrected.
09:13Hurricane Beryl was in 2005, yes?
09:15Okay.
09:16And, sorry, Wilma.
09:18My bad.
09:19Gilbert was in 1988.
09:20But the Trinidad and Tobago government has already agreed to send relief supplies.
09:25Excellent, excellent.
09:26To the country, Jamaica, I guess, one time when this hurricane has passed over the next couple of hours.
09:33And in the coming days, I am certain that a number of persons, US agencies, Caribbean agencies, international agencies,
09:42are going to be sending foodstuff and all the other amenities that are needed for that island to help them recuperate and recover from this catastrophic hurricane
09:52hurricane that, you know, Sydney, they're still feeling the brunt of.
09:56And it's very difficult when you have to feel the brunt of a hurricane actually sitting on the country like Dorian did and Bahamas for quite a while, pounding them for 12 to 14 hours.
10:08It's something that, I guess, you and I cannot really say we have experienced in that capacity, a hurricane.
10:14But, you know, we have seen storms and so on and felt the impact of heavy winds at times in Trinidad and Tobago.
10:20Yes.
10:21None comparable to what Jamaica is experiencing now.
10:24Yes, and to the students, our students in Trinidad who are studying in the university over there,
10:31and, you know, we trust that they're somewhere safe and, you know, the safety is paramount at this stage.
10:38And there's no need to, as you indicated, go out and repair and go and look and you stay indoors,
10:43make sure that you have enough water, make sure that you have torchlight, matches, candle, basic things until the storm pass over.
10:51Then we recommend that you go and you do an assessment of the damage done.
10:56Please, there's no need to walk out your phone and play brave. This storm is different and he will take you with it as well.
11:03I imagine there are areas in Jamaica, we understand, that perhaps have lost power and so on because of these weather conditions.
11:13And sometimes, even so, they would decide to cut power in case of anything happening because, you know, when the aftermath of these hurricanes hit,
11:26well, after they finish, you know, you have live wires sometimes lying around.
11:30So, I guess people have to be urged to be cautious when they venture outdoors.
11:35Yes.
11:36A lot of downed power lines, loose cords and other debris, they're sitting there very dangerously.
11:42Yes, and it's one thing to have a pity of the adults, but what about the children?
11:47You know, they're being traumatized. This storm, you know, mommy tell them to keep calm, you know, all is well.
11:51What do you say? How do you comfort them at this stage? The pets, you know, where do you locate your pets, where do you seek your pets?
11:58There's so much that you could do with a storm like this. I don't even say paying a visit, you know, but consuming a certain portion of your country.
12:09And, you know, we feel that God is still in charge and we trust that we continue to get good news, that lives are safe.
12:18And by extension, individuals are somewhere in the arms of individuals.
12:24It has to be a collective effort, you know, as we seek to ensure that this storm pass over.
12:29And then we count and make sure that we can discuss our way forward.
12:33I want to salute CARICOM, you know, for already stepping up to the plate and saying we would like to assist.
12:40We will be a director of support. That is what we're all about.
12:44And I trust that at the end of the day, Jamaica stands strong.
12:49You know, they are a strong nation, you know, and I trust that they will go through this
12:53and they will have the testicle fortitude to say, listen, you know, this and much more.
12:58And they could share the experience of an unfortunate experience such as this.
13:03Yes, indeed. And as I said before, our prayers are with Jamaica.
13:06And, of course, all the Caribbean countries will be pitching in when the hurricane passes to assist Jamaica.
13:13Yes.
13:14All right. Back home here in Trinidad and Tobago.
13:15Of course, the announcement came yesterday by Prime Minister Kamala Persaud-Bissessa
13:20of the extension of the state of emergency. Of course, it's going to be discussed on the order paper on Friday.
13:27But the recommendation was, of course, put forward by the Commission of Police, Alistair Guevaro.
13:34And she has decided to do such.
13:37So over the next six months, because they're still not satisfied with the level of crime and violence that the country is still seeing.
13:44Yeah. And you have to appreciate the fact that where the Commissioner sits and the intelligence that he gets
13:49and the people that surround him, that he makes an informed decision.
13:53It is not a popular decision. It is not a consensus. It is what in the interest of the country.
13:58And by extension, ensuring that at the end of the day, our country is a safe one.
14:03So that having said that, we want to continue to support the Commissioner.
14:08We know that he has done well with the first, what do you call it?
14:15The seat of emergency.
14:16That's right.
14:17And we're looking for that. If we have to keep them in order, so be it.
14:21And you see the law-abiding citizens will understand that.
14:24The only person that it will be disruptive to is a criminal element.
14:28So the law-abiding citizens will understand and will appreciate, of course, why there has to be a continuation in this state of emergency.
14:37There's good news that the crime has decreased.
14:41We want it to decrease further. We want it to decrease at a manageable level.
14:44And we want to salute our members of the public who has beard and, you know, sometimes, unfortunately, you have to curtail and you have to adjust your life.
14:54Yeah.
14:55But it's all in the interest of good crime-fighting and good results and, by extension, ensuring that our nation is a safe one.
15:03Well, we remain optimistic to see that, you know, this extended next six months state of emergency will yield even better results for the Trinidad and Tobago police service, making the country, of course, safer for citizens to walk the streets and getting those delicit firearms, guns, and persons off the streets.
15:22And hopefully we have, you know, these persons are charged and brought before the courts to face the charges that they are accused of.
15:31Definitely. And when you look at police officers being present, physical presence, those who are law-abiding feel honored, they feel safe.
15:41Yeah.
15:42You know, again, we go back to the criminal elements. They're not too happy about that.
15:46And therefore, we have to continue to reassure those who are law-abiding, those who continue to be good citizens, that the police is partnering with them.
15:55And therefore, we have to look at the question of what is the results at the end of every objective or every, you know, challenge that we have.
16:08Is the public much safer? Is the public more happier? Are they, as an important stakeholder, are they saying, yes, we appreciate that?
16:15And we need to applaud members of the public for working in partner with us.
16:19Yes, definitely. All right. The Trinidad and Topeka Police Service sent out a release today, of course, involving police-involved shooting.
16:28Unfortunately, one man was shot and killed. He was identified as Ainsley Glenn Gonzalez of Mayaro.
16:38Reports indicate officers of the Mayaro Criminal Investigations Department received information of a man armed with a gun in the Guayari district around 2 a.m. on Monday.
16:48On arrival at the location, the officers observed the man ran into a wooden structure and received an object that appeared to be a firearm from under his bed.
16:57The man is alleged to have pointed the object at the officers and several clicking sounds were then heard.
17:02The officers gave the man verbal commands to put down the weapon, but he did not comply.
17:07And in keeping with the use of force policy, of course, the gentleman was shot and he was later taken to the Mayaro Health Facility where he was pronounced.
17:18That's right. Come out with your hands up in your ear, a surrender officer. Officer, you know, the officer already gave you several reasons to not to.
17:29You know, and you come out with your hands because you know fully well that anything looking like a firearm, officers will return for.
17:35Times are different now. You showed a video last week where the fellas said even the accident didn't walk up and kill the person.
17:42They just went in shooting. And there was a different kind of culture. Them fellas right are dead.
17:47You know, and officers, you know, I really want to salute police officers who go beyond the court of duty. They leave home and they're not sure to come back.
17:54And, you know, we really want to continue to pray for officers who line up. I mean, I said people talk about their train fit, but it's much more than that.
18:01It's ensuring that our committee is safe and it's ensuring that officers put a line in spite of having their children and family home.
18:09They have to be applauded and saluted.
18:12All right. It's day 103 of the state of emergency. So let's quickly bring you up to speed with the figures.
18:20Number of operations, 7,438. Target priority offenders, 2,547. Searches conducted, 49,163. Traffic operations, 5,000.
18:31Total persons arrested, 3,263. Traffic offenses detected, 29,659. Firearms recovered to date, 192. We had a rise in revolvers of 48 revolvers.
18:45Ammunition recovered, total of 2,425 rounds. We had a rise there in .38 of 156 rounds.
18:52Dangerous drugs seized, 629,127.98 grams of cannabis. And of course, 8,899.65 grams of cocaine. The other two remain the same.
19:06Trinidad and Tobago is a safer place today because of the ammunition and the drugs and the guns that is being removed.
19:15Every time you hear guns and ammunition and drugs being removed, Trinidad is a safer place.
19:20And we need to continue to applaud not only the police service. And I want to reinforce that.
19:26There are people who are behind the scenes that are doing good work with the police.
19:30You know, providing officers with excellent intelligence. And they must be applauded.
19:34No name being called. But we know who they are. And we just want to thank them very much.
19:38And we want to embrace. And we want to probably send a message for more persons that come on board.
19:44Because a safe community is a safe home. And a safe home is a safe family.
19:49And therefore, safety is paramount. And it's part of one of our mantra.
19:53All right. Thanks a lot for that, Corporal Shabadi. Let's take a quick look now at our headlines.
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23:09Welcome back to Beyond the Tape. I'm your host, Mark Busson, of course, joined today by Corporal Derek Chabody, manager and co-founder of the St. James Police Youth Club.
23:17And I just wanted to give a small note here handed to me by the security at CCN.
23:22I'm asking Leslie-Anne Francois, apparently you dropped your work ID in Port of Spain and somebody came and they dropped it off here at the CCN building.
23:32You work at the Ministry of Finance, so you can come and collect your ID here. Thank you.
23:39Alright, so we want to just move on to this video. We're not sure where in Trinidad and Tobago this was, but just take a look at this.
23:48So you're seeing a car and then we're seeing some men sitting under a house here. It appears.
24:02Everybody's caring about their business as normal and then these two guys appear, perhaps having a conversation of some sort or maybe looking for someone, I don't know.
24:17And there's a discussion. There's another man coming into the frame, leaning onto the car here.
24:24They're appearing to be having a beverage of some sort.
24:28And then this happens.
24:38An engagement.
24:41Seems to be pretty civil and then we see this happens.
24:44At the corner of the screen there.
24:54Wow.
24:57Everybody seem to have escaped and look at it.
25:00So if you have any information in reference to this particular incident, which appear to have happened according to the timestamp,
25:08that is on October 26th.
25:10Would have been about two days ago.
25:12We're not sure of the area.
25:13Of course, Corporal Shabody, but, you know, what do you do in a situation?
25:20Claire indicated that the community needs to get together.
25:24The establishment of Neighborhood Watch Group.
25:26People need to know that when a strange car, you alert somebody.
25:30The community need to network.
25:32They need to put themselves in order.
25:33Because as easy as a line that is taking place.
25:38These fellows don't have loopholes.
25:39They did an assessment.
25:41And therefore, you know, the benefit from the loopholes.
25:43You see, crime is about opportunity.
25:45And they got the opportunity.
25:47Thank God that nobody wasn't killed.
25:49Nobody didn't receive.
25:51I don't know how much information I have on this particular video.
25:53But, thank God.
25:55But after that, people need to understand this is what the police is up against.
26:00These fellows are not playing.
26:02And therefore, the criminal element.
26:04I mean, they say there was a woman there.
26:06Probably there were children there as well.
26:08These fellows have no care for life.
26:10They have no care for once upon a time.
26:13You see a woman, a child, you know, you make her wrongs.
26:16Yeah, and you know, the conversations seem to be courteous.
26:18I didn't see any major gesticulations by either.
26:22But these men were caught unexpected.
26:24They were very casually sitting, okay.
26:26The guy sips his beverage.
26:28And then the guy dips in his waistband.
26:32And opens fire.
26:33Yeah, that's what they do.
26:34You can see, I think, what appears to be bullet holes at the side of the vehicle there.
26:39Following the exchange of gunfire.
26:41And thankfully, nobody was hurt in this whole situation.
26:46And a good camera will pick up the individuals.
26:48That the gentleman was not wearing any mask.
26:50He was not wearing anything to cover his face.
26:53So therefore, if anybody would have information.
26:55You see something, say something.
26:57You know, this is very unfortunate.
26:59Yes.
27:00And it speaks to the times that we are living in.
27:03And therefore, communities need to make sure and put themselves in order to minimize the elements in them, you know, benefiting from loopholes like this.
27:12Very unfortunate.
27:12So, of course, if you have any information, please contact the nearest police station or 800-TIPS with any information to identify those gunmen in that video.
27:23Yes.
27:24All right.
27:25So, I think you have some important information to share with us regarding a particular meeting with a resident representative of the UNDP.
27:33Yes.
27:34When UN United Nations called, you know, you make yourself available.
27:38And, you know, I feel honored when I was invited to come and speak to Mr. Blanco and also Mr. Delian, major representative of United Nations.
27:47And, by extension, you know, they do well.
27:51They do justice in terms of having a meeting with me, looking at Police U Club as a proactive approach, as an important vehicle.
27:58They look at database.
27:59They look at how do we compile more information to show Police U Clubs, not just St. James, but at a national level, the good work they are doing.
28:08They're looking to market, looking to promote, because sometimes good news does take long to reach the, you follow, reach media.
28:15And, therefore, you have to make sure that you network with important people like you.
28:20And I was also invited to speak and to give more information about U Clubs and what U Clubs is doing and how well we can partner.
28:27And, also, at a regional, international level, spread the good news, the gospel of the police service, Police U Clubs, and probably go out and reach out to others so that, through networking, we'll be able to make a good statement that Police U Clubs are doing excellent work and, therefore, they should be given the respect.
28:47Right. I know we have a video clip you would like to share with the public.
28:50One of the testimonies that I can use, one that stands out the most, is that we were taking some young people to the United States on our international exchange program.
29:01And, of course, we'll have to apply for a visa.
29:04And the young man, when he went up to the section and placed his finger on a particular apparatus, it showed up that he had an unfortunate offense that was pending.
29:13However, the Police U Clubs, through myself and other seniors, we went to make sure that the matter was expunged from his file, and the embassy was carrying out to give him a one-way visa.
29:24Today, he's a member of the Trinidad Regiment.
29:26He's one of our alumni, and we are honored that he was able to speak and was able to give him an opportunity to see a different world, a different space, a different type of language.
29:36I think that is the trust of inspiring and allowing young people to know that there's a sense of hope and there's a sense of purpose in their life.
29:45Corporal Shabadi, you're certainly flying the flag for the youth clubs of Trinidad and Tobago, not just in gyms, of course, by inspiring the young ones across the board to get to the top.
29:57And, you know, this kind of engagement, of course, with youngsters and experiencing things outside of Trinidad and Tobago will all go well for the future of the youth clubs.
30:06And we thank Bjorni Taper because Bjorni Taper has done justice in terms of marketing the good work that all Police U Clubs do.
30:14So I want to salute you, Brother Bassan, Jackie, Team Miss Archie, for already putting Police U Club on this platform.
30:20And there are people who like to tell you that all is lost with young people.
30:24There is no good young person out there.
30:26Waste that time with them.
30:27We are saying no.
30:28Bring them as they are.
30:29If they are broken, we will fix it.
30:31You know, and there are good, decent, respected, law-abiding young people.
30:34And we have to respect the fact that police need to redefine themselves.
30:39And as we redefine themselves, we will offer a different new look, a different relationship with the nation's youth.
30:45And the youth will go out and they will speak.
30:46And that is what the alumni, we ask the alumni, people who have been the beneficiaries of the Police U Club,
30:53to come back and to share what the U Club has done for them.
30:56And true, Mr. Blanco and Lillian, I want to thank them very much because there are so many different youth groups they could have chosen.
31:02And they heard about the U Club and they asked me to come in and they were very impressed.
31:06And I trust that this relationship goes on from strength to strength so that we will promote young people doing excellent work
31:13and also flying the flag for Trinidad and Tobago and true patriotic, as we would call them.
31:18Yes, certainly.
31:18And I want to congratulate you to keep up the good work, Corporal Shabadi.
31:22Everybody's extremely proud of the things that you have done to really grow the youth club in Trinidad and Tobago through the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service.
31:29Thank you. Blessings to you and yours.
31:31All right.
31:31We're going to take a short break.
31:32And when we get back, we'll have more.
31:34Stay with us.
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33:58Welcome back to Beyond the Tape.
33:59I'm your host Mark Moussad, of course, joined today by Corporal Derek Chabody, manager and co-founder of The Cent.
34:05James Police Youth Club, and I think we have our first caller on the line.
34:09Caller, good evening, and welcome to be on the chair.
34:13Good evening, good evening, Mr. Mark Moussad and Officer Chabody.
34:18Yes, sir.
34:20Officer, I'm coming direct to you and the TTPP via extension.
34:25You are in the Shugwoners area, and it hurts me, and it hurts me, and it's heart-wrenching, going north on the exit, monorail road exit.
34:41There are one, two, three, four, five families with very, very young children, two years, one year, et cetera.
34:51I believe most of them, because they speak in Spanish, that is abuse of little children, what the authority, the child protection, the police unit, doing like that.
35:08It appears that officers who use that ram, apparently, close their eyes, and they don't do anything about it.
35:18The other issue I want to address again is, and this is what I have seen in Guyana.
35:28Recently, there were two comments in Guyana.
35:36One of them, they say it is terrorism, and the people who are responsible for it, based on the Guyana authority, are saying it is punish-seeking individuals.
35:50They are all over the place in Guyana.
35:52They have posted up images of those things.
35:54B, if your neighbor is on fire, you have to drench yours.
36:01That is what I'm saying.
36:02And there has been a proliferation of Spanish-speaking individuals who are committing crime.
36:12We have to be careful that that is not a plot by the Venezuelan government to destabilize Trinidad and also Guyana.
36:22I think it is on the news.
36:24Go to the newspaper and you will see it.
36:26That is what you have to say.
36:27I am watching.
36:28You see something, say something.
36:31Mr. Mark Bassan, this is to you now.
36:34You are seeing one of the pillars of the Fort Estate.
36:39There is a video going around where a senator identified the perpetrator of the Akil Chambers issue.
36:49Where are we in a country?
36:52This is the time that we might be able to resolve that whole case.
36:57Because it is not only that individual.
36:59There are co-conspirators with him who have done that.
37:03The Judith Jones Report.
37:05The Sabga Report.
37:07The Sabga Still Alive in Canada.
37:09Judith Jones Report has a lot of things, I am told,
37:12that implicates the thing people possibly in high office.
37:17Mark, three months ago we said we were going to investigate it.
37:21So I am asking you again, raise it as an issue.
37:25Because one of the main witnesses in the coroner is a young boy.
37:29He is related to an ex-prime minister.
37:32I am going to have a nice evening.
37:33Thanks a lot, Kuala, Corporal Shabdi.
37:37Yes, it is alarming to see the amount of women, men included too,
37:44positioning themselves and begging and taking arms,
37:49which is an offence, of course, and using little ones.
37:53Because your heart will go out, of course, if you see little ones.
37:56And very soon you will be seeing the Children's Protection,
37:59the Child Protection Unit, the Children's Authority,
38:01along with social workers, several organizations coming
38:05and to make sure to address that in a serious way.
38:08Because apparently when you arrest them, you put them, they come back again.
38:12And therefore you have to nip it to anybody.
38:13Because every case is unique.
38:15Sometimes you're bullying them before the court.
38:17And then the court is not, you know,
38:19try not to be too lenient and give way and say, listen,
38:23and allow public recommendations for social services to come in.
38:26But I think it's like a wildness now.
38:29It is a misuse of the children.
38:30Two, three-year-old, it breaks their heart.
38:33And you ask people to take flames, take our photos, you know,
38:36so that we can send it to the authorities, the Child Protection Unit,
38:40and the different units that are manned and are tasked with dealing with those kind of offences.
38:45And we don't want to lock up people really, you know,
38:48but we want to make sure that your case is a special case, unique case.
38:51But some people are profiting from doing these things now.
38:55It's not a case of the child anymore.
38:56They're making good money.
38:57They're set up, you know, their two-degree place and position in terms of collecting money.
39:03And they have the eight- and nine-year-old and the two-year-old in some cases.
39:07And we say to the people that that should stop.
39:09You know, the children are suffering.
39:10It is not right.
39:11Children supposed to be in school.
39:13The basic fundamental needs should be provided.
39:15And these authorities I spoke of, you know, serious will be coming together.
39:19They are looking at it in a serious way, you know, to address that.
39:22And I see it's booming in Central.
39:25Yep.
39:26All right.
39:26So, Kola, you talked about that incident in Guyana.
39:29I can tell you that a suspect, Venezuela National, was held today.
39:34The government, of course, sending out a release about that.
39:38And we want to be careful.
39:39We don't want to marry that situation with what is happening now and give people ideas.
39:45Right?
39:46It's a very volatile situation that we find ourselves in in the Caribbean.
39:49At this point, something that a number of persons for the first time are trying to wrap their minds around.
39:55Right.
39:55It's not something that we're accustomed to.
39:58And we want to be very careful in how we approach the situation.
40:01What we say, how we say it, not to, you know, infuse or push fire.
40:08That's right.
40:10You know?
40:10Yes.
40:10And on the other matter, of course, you would have imagined that the DNA evidence in this matter,
40:16one of my colleagues would have written many years ago, was destroyed, unfortunately, at the Forensic Center.
40:21So, a lot of what has been posted now, of course, is my allegations.
40:25Not for want of trying, of course.
40:26I think one of the persons that, where he went to the house, died recently, the male.
40:34So, it's not for want of trying that I've been trying to talk to people.
40:37But, nevertheless, we'll continue to see where that goes.
40:41All right.
40:42We want to bring you a very serious crime situation that continues to raise ugly head across Trinidad and Tobago.
40:49That of home invasions.
40:51The latest, of course, a penal family facing last day or two.
40:56Let's take a look.
40:57It was around for the past, the 20 past this morning.
41:02As the husband leave to go to work, three men came into the house and ambush us.
41:13My children were asleep.
41:14When my daughter heard the commotion, she got up.
41:17And she asked what was going on.
41:19And by this time, they was done locking up my, pull me down.
41:24And when I screamed out, I saw my daughter was aloofed.
41:27And I saw she come out.
41:28And they was telling me, don't scream, don't scream.
41:32Just tell them where the money and the jewel is.
41:35And I was so frightened.
41:36And one of them pointed a gun to me.
41:39And when my husband leave, the truck would pack up in front.
41:43So the car was behind.
41:44And when I come back in the house, in the shed, I close the gate.
41:51And I take off lights.
41:52And my combatants, I died when that happened.
41:55And I had the key in my hand still.
41:56And they were saying, I worry about it, I worry about it, I just hand them over it.
42:03And then they started to duct tape up my foot and mouth and my hand and things.
42:09And when she come out, well, I tell them, I say, if it have any jewel and things in the room and things.
42:16I say, they tell me how I have to carry them to show them.
42:19I say, well, I can't walk or let up the thing up my foot.
42:22They say, they pull in my hand and they carry me.
42:24And I went to the room and I say to my husband, he's safe under me, the bed.
42:30Just take that and go, just pay with life, just pay with life.
42:32And one of them, when my daughter come out, one of them with a hoodie, a black hoodie,
42:38and he was dressed all in black, Afro-descent.
42:41The three of them were Afro-descent.
42:44And they come and they hold she, my daughter, and they carry her in the room.
42:50And they start to search up she room and they take she thing with she jewelry.
42:54And they throw it down and go and they take all the jewelry and things.
42:57And when I went in the room with them, I just tell them, I say, look, this is safe under me, but I just take it.
43:02And just pay with it.
43:03Don't do it with nothing.
43:04And they say, where the rest of jewelry is there?
43:06Where all the money is?
43:08I say, everything in that.
43:09I don't have anything.
43:11Where the money is?
43:12Will you have any more cash?
43:13I say, no, I don't have any more cash.
43:15I don't have any more jewelry.
43:16Everything there and that.
43:17Take that and go.
43:18They say, where the DVR for the camera system?
43:21I say, look at that, they went there, they say, that is not it.
43:24They went in the room and they pushed, pulled down everything.
43:26They just unplugged it from the wall.
43:29And like they open the front door, the front window by my room.
43:32And like they hand the other one outside because I didn't see them come back out with anything.
43:36And my husband had the jewelry in the Ziploc bag by the bed here.
43:42And they open there and they take up the jewelry.
43:45And they pull out all these drawers and things in my dresser and things.
43:50But they didn't take anything there.
43:52My daughter had $100 on the table.
43:54They take all of that.
43:54And, well, I don't know how much cash my husband had in the safe because I don't have any access to the safe because he have the combination for it.
44:02And they was asking me the combination for it.
44:03I tell him I don't have it.
44:05Because I said, my husband, there's a thing with that.
44:09I don't have no deal enough with that.
44:11And they asked him for the money.
44:12I told him money and the jewelry and everything in that.
44:14Just take all of it.
44:15Just pay me a mature in life.
44:16Corporal Shabadi.
44:20Yeah, just the very lady given account of that unfortunate ordeal, it tells you again that these fellows in them have no care for life.
44:30You know, I'm thankful that they are alive because in some cases everybody there, you know.
44:34So I'm thankful.
44:35When you hear that people, life was spared and all that, you really ought to thank God for that.
44:39But, again, we go back to home, reorganizing, reconstructing, you know, a different type of communication, having your phone on fast speed.
44:50You have a neighborhood watch group on your phone.
44:53They communicate with somebody, assailants.
44:55There has to be some type of using technology in order to address criminal events like that because they are making them a study.
45:04And we must also make them a study as well.
45:06They know that the father wasn't there.
45:07They had thoughts of, they had knowledge of certain jewelry and certain, and they even used reverse psychology to inquire further because fear is there.
45:17And you know what happens when you're in fear, right, at a fight or flight.
45:21And it is very unfortunate.
45:22I thank God that the family is alive.
45:25I would give up my jewelry any day.
45:27I would give up my personal life for any interest of my family.
45:30And they need to be coming in for that.
45:32But, man, take anything.
45:34Take.
45:34Take whatever you want.
45:35I am not going to fight over no jewelry and over no money.
45:39You know, life is much more valuable.
45:41And therefore, we have to thank God for that.
45:43But more than that, when people see videos, they must be able to go back and do a checklist.
45:49Go back to the drawing table and say, what can we do different to minimize these type of elements, home invasion?
45:56Because that is a big thing now.
45:58It's spike, and it's like a free fall.
46:00It's like wildness.
46:01And they're making your home a study.
46:04You know, when you're leaving, what time you're coming back?
46:06And by extension, probably, you know, the structure of your home.
46:09Yeah, certainly.
46:09And that Penal, Barakpur area, a lot of home invasions have, it's really increased over the last few months.
46:16And there was one, I believe, last week as well, a couple, elderly couple.
46:21Yes, yes.
46:21Some in the Penal area.
46:22So, I'm asking the officers of the Southwestern Division down there, the senior superintendent, let's see if we can, I guess, you know, beef up the patrols in the areas, a number of families.
46:33These persons are obviously doing surveillance.
46:35They are watching.
46:36They are waiting.
46:37They wait for the male breadwinner to leave the house.
46:39That's right.
46:40And then you, imagine tying up a five-year-old child.
46:44Yes.
46:44What that can do to that child's mental for the rest of their lives and their mother and her young daughter, the 15-year-old.
46:53She don't mention the five-year-old, but in the Express newspapers today, she did.
46:57So, all right, we're going to take a short break.
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48:47Welcome back to Be On The Tape.
49:11I'm your host, Mark Besson, of course, joined today by Corporal Derek Chabadi, manager and co-founder of the St. James Police Youth Club.
49:17And you were talking about, you know, that issue that the last caller raised about young mothers with Venezuelan children and so on.
49:26And this is very disturbing.
49:27I received this from a colleague just a short while ago.
49:30They indicated that at the KFC Montrose drive-through and the bridge on the Montrose main road that leads to Edinburgh 500,
49:37the Venezuelan mothers send their children to beg drivers while they stand a distance away watching any driver can snatch their children long before the mothers reach.
49:45Yes, yes, it is.
49:47Anybody telling you that you'll see and they have never observed that something wrong, they are all over now.
49:52And I don't want to say much, but there is a task force set up, you know, to look at this in a serious way in terms of bringing all the different stakeholders together to address and to ensure that children are not victims of parents who see it as a business.
50:09And by extension, they're made to be held accountable for that time of lifestyle.
50:13Because I don't know, it is day, night, evening, you go to Prysma 2, you're all over, a last time I saw a vehicle offloading people in a wheelchair.
50:24Two persons are like, I said, and I'm making notes.
50:27I know what I'm saying, but wait, this thing can be real.
50:28And I called my colleague and he said, yes, yes, brother, we have several reports made and we'll be addressing it in a serious way.
50:37And I really trust that in, if not the end of November, that we see some level of serious attention being paid to this kind of thing.
50:48Because everybody seems to be joining now and ensuring that they get some kind of, at the expense of their children.
50:55And I don't think that children should be used at all.
50:58Yeah, exploitation of children.
50:59I know the children's authority perhaps too, because, you know, the sun is hot and you have these children in the hot sun.
51:04Amazing, amazing.
51:06It is very unconscionable to see such behavior by parents, you know, really don't have any regard for those children and their livelihood and so on.
51:16So it's really disappointing and we hope that the authorities will definitely look into that in more detail.
51:22All right, we have another caller on the line.
51:24Caller, good evening and welcome to be on the table.
51:27Good evening.
51:28Good evening.
51:30Good evening to you on the panel.
51:31The, in terms of the, the, I would like to say, can I draw?
51:40Okay, so I'm going to say the other thing that, if they have written to the, like, um, something that we actually can, or if you can, you will make for, like, a resolution.
51:47You say, I'm not going out to leave them socially, but I have set some boundaries for all you working in.
51:55They have a sitting out to get to work, and they have to come and check you,
51:59so what is your first need to be aware of your wearables.
52:04And anybody that gets out of that, better explain, you know,
52:09why you're out there and what is your movement, where you're working,
52:13or if anything, I'll make an answer.
52:20Alright, thanks Alkola.
52:21Kola, I don't know if you heard everything that you said.
52:24You really sound very muffled, unfortunately, but Corporal,
52:29just what I got was he was speaking about refugees,
52:33and checks and balances, of course, and your whereabouts, and so on.
52:39So I'm sorry that we didn't really get everything that you said,
52:42so it would be very difficult for us to make a pronouncement and answer if we didn't hear you.
52:47Yeah, yeah, definitely.
52:48You can be a little muffled.
52:49What I can tell you is that the Immigration Department would have a strong sense of ensuring
52:56that the person has checks and balances that they are accounted for,
52:59and therefore if they didn't show up, you know, then there's some kind of inquiries being done,
53:04and the district police will be a little informed of the, you know, to do checks on the particular individual.
53:10But that's an immigration particular matter, and I know that immigration,
53:15I've been doing very good because I know that over a period of time, they are called in to account,
53:21and by extension, they have a card as well, and once that card expires, they'll have to come in and renew it.
53:26But it's a whole immigration system, and I think probably we could invite somebody in that particular department
53:32to probably share more light in that area.
53:35Thank you, sir.
53:36All right.
53:37Do you want to take our last caller for the evening?
53:39Caller, good evening, and welcome to be on the tape.
53:41Good evening.
53:42You hear me?
53:44Yes, go ahead.
53:45Mr. President, do you still do investigative reports on different things and so on?
53:53Yes, I do, sir.
53:54Can you do an investigative report on the, um,
53:59the, um, certain things, um, the Chinbego Express,
54:02because I'm continuing, um,
54:05a couple other people that haven't done their stuff.
54:11Okay.
54:12Caller, you want to leave your name,
54:14right, you want to leave your name and number for the producer, of course,
54:17and I'll call you off here.
54:19All right.
54:21So, um, I know we don't have a lot of time left.
54:26We have about two and a half minutes.
54:27I know you have a couple of things you just wanted to kind of throw in the mix before we depart.
54:31Yes, certainly I want to congratulate Tobago for having an actually excellent carnival.
54:36I know that there was one or two little incidents with the glass water and that kind of stuff,
54:40and that's a level of stupidity.
54:42I think the captain and those who are in charge will have to accommodate.
54:45But generally, I want to commend, um, Assistant Commissioner Sibiru,
54:49and the Senior Sup and, you know, all the officers.
54:52And I want to commend all to the Commissioner of Police.
54:54As soon as he came back from the association function,
54:58you were seen in Tobago.
54:59Yeah.
55:00You know, and that is commendable along with DCP Martin.
55:03So I want to commend, I want to salute Tobago too,
55:06for really embracing and enhancing that, that level of culture.
55:10Yeah.
55:11And it would be remiss for me not to recognize some of your fans.
55:14Um, Pastor Dutton say hello.
55:15Okay.
55:16Um, Mr. James Devers, member of the management board.
55:18Good evening, Pastor Dutton.
55:19Yeah, parent council, you know.
55:21Um, they, they asked a lot of questions.
55:23I say, all the other crock to Mr. Boston about that,
55:25if you have to write anything concerning the club.
55:27But they just want to show an appreciation for the fact
55:30that you continue to promote the good news of the police club
55:33and by extension, ETTPS.
55:35And we trust that people embrace this
55:37because it's all about tapping into untapped potential
55:41and young people who are gifted.
55:43Yes.
55:44Right?
55:45And the only way you know a gift is when you open the gift.
55:46Right?
55:47So once again, I want to thank you very much
55:48and I trust that this country continue to do good
55:52and continue to say a special prayer for Jamaica
55:55in their unfortunate time and their unfortunate experience
55:58with this Melissa Category 5 storm.
56:04Yeah, certainly.
56:05You know, and as I said, our prayers go to those persons,
56:09all 3 million persons in Jamaica.
56:12And we are hopeful that, you know, there will be no loss of life.
56:16And I know there will be a lot of, you know, recovery after
56:21and a lot of things that a number of persons will get their hands wet with
56:25in terms of assisting across the CARICOM region
56:29and, of course, international help, foodstuff and other amenities.
56:33So we ask you to, if you have anything from Trinidad
56:36to send certain agencies you can reach out to.
56:39Red Cross.
56:40And, of course, drop off those foodstuff, clothing,
56:43whatever it might be to assist in some way.
56:46Corporal Shabit, I certainly want to thank you.
56:48Yeah, blessings to you and yours.
56:50Right.
56:51And have an excellent weekend, man.
56:53Same to you as well.
56:54All right.
56:55So remember, rerun tonight at 11.30.
56:59Another repeat tomorrow at 11 o'clock.
57:03The TV6 News is up next.
57:05See you tomorrow at around 6.
57:08So definitely, you know, we might have about another extra 20 seconds.
57:15So anything you would like to add, sir, before we head out?
57:19Yeah, I just want to thank all those who play a fundamental role
57:22in showing that we keep focused, we keep this country a good country, crime-free.
57:27And for all those who partner, we want to salute them
57:29and thank them for an absolutely wonderful partnership.
57:32All right.
57:33We're out.
57:34See you tomorrow.
57:35Bye.
57:36Bye.
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