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00:00we now welcome mike florio to the wise heart right we make it right call kyle right hotline
00:05hi mike how are you good you're supposed to pander to the guest and say it's the absolute best site
00:10the only site that i visit while you're on some other site as you're saying if that's what you're
00:15supposed to oh that's how it works i thought i thought you got to pay for those sites like
00:20through the roof and like never mind i don't want to i don't want to get in trouble i'm not
00:24going
00:24to get i'm not walking down that road yeah yeah i'm not even going to say no i'm not really
00:29i call
00:30your site the bible because when i really want to know what's going on i go to pro football talk
00:35i
00:35do too i've always it's on my screen as we speak for years yeah it's right there you will definitely
00:39see some words on pft that you will not find in the bible not that i can quote many chapters
00:47and
00:48verses i can't think of many they would include s bombs f bombs or any other bombs that we would
00:54choose to drop also we may be sacrilegious from time to time which wouldn't mesh with the whole
00:59bible thing but it's all in good fun and every time i see one of those words mike i must
01:03tell you i
01:04go oh that florio well you know the rubber band has been stretched to the point that it's okay to
01:10smoke weed on the air so everything under that is fair game now i thought i thought you had like
01:18inverted numbers on your power rankings today because you had the browns at 23 and i thought well
01:24wait a minute they were 32 last time i checked how about that well they benefit they benefit from
01:29the fact that there are a lot of bad teams right now you know as i as i work through
01:34this very
01:34deliberate and careful algorithm of ranking the teams from top to bottom which basically consists
01:40of me going with whatever i feel like is the right placement god it's good to be the boss isn't
01:47it
01:47i i was moving the browns up higher and higher and higher because you know i'm looking at it now
01:53the falcons sorry until they have a quarterback who can perform at an acceptable level i saw somewhere
02:00where their passer rating for cooper rush and jack strand was less than if they had just spiked the
02:04ball into the ground on every single play the dolphins appear to be tanking if they're not i feel bad
02:10for
02:11them because they look like they're trying to get arch manning in aqua the commanders without jayden
02:15daniels are a mess right now the titans at least they're tied for second place in the division
02:20currently the jets john aaron glenn almost said john glenn we're in ohio so that would fit
02:26aaron glenn seems to be doing everything he can to get himself fired the colts are a hot mess the
02:32bucks are a hot mess and the browns lost to them then you get the charges and the cardinals it
02:37doesn't
02:37take much to get the number 23 in the current nfl and that's where the browns are are we allowed
02:43to
02:43have nice things here in cleveland then is that's i i'd like i'm shocked that they won this week against
02:48tampa bay i'm gonna start there and it's like oh what i wait and i think we're kind of dazed
02:54and
02:55confused right now over what happened and what to think moving forward especially with the quarterback
02:58spot fine there's a couple of things to go into it number one you never know how good the team
03:03is
03:04that beat you you never know how bad the team is that you beat and also football games can turn
03:09very quickly it's only three hours of real time it's 150 snaps maybe and one play here one play
03:19there a bounce of the ball here about to the ball there a bad decision a good decision a fluke
03:24call
03:24that's bad for one side good for the other it doesn't take much to influence a game and before
03:29you know it a game can be out of hand before you know it somebody who should have been losing
03:32badly
03:33is in position to take it and the browns took it and the buccaneers let him take it and i
03:39don't know
03:39how much it says about the browns i don't know how much says about the buccaneers and you know the
03:44test starts on sunday when the panthers come to town who bumped the falcons now their defense got
03:49shredded by the bears in week one but they did score 37 against chicago and you got the two home
03:54games the monday thursday turnaround and you've got the question and look i don't know many browns fans
03:59so my information about the mood of the base is anecdotal i don't get the impression that
04:06there's a an overwhelming sense of glee that deshaun watson is going to be the starter on
04:12sunday and we know how it works with booing it doesn't take many people to boo to make it sound
04:16like everyone's booing and i have a feeling that it's not going to be a red carpet rolled out for
04:22deshaun watson based upon what we saw the first two weeks how do you think he looked in week two
04:28i mean he looked better and when your expectations are basically nil he he easily exceeded them and
04:36he did enough to get the win and he has the faith of todd munken i thought it was bizarre
04:41last week
04:42when he said the media expects him to throw for 400 yards and five touchdowns every week the media
04:46most definitely does not expect him to do that no one has expected him to do that any expectations he
04:52may be feeling along those lines come from the fact that he has failed woefully to earn his contract
04:58now that's not his fault that's the browns fault for paying him 46 million per year fully guaranteed
05:02but he's clearly not living up to that level but at this stage of his career i don't think anybody
05:07is reasonably expecting him to have a 400 yard five touchdown game it's just do enough to compliment
05:13the other players on the team and give the the browns collectively a chance to prevail in the
05:19one step that ever matters points scored and points allowed as determined at the end of each
05:25and every game how do you think todd munken's doing i personally i think todd was everything was kind of
05:31going on the right track he was he's kind of playing the political lines there making sure
05:35both guys had the opportunity and i think he had everything under control until deshaun decides he wants
05:42to spill his guts after that second preseason game and then the fans and and the city you know turn
05:48but
05:48then he comes back todd's had a lot to deal with here since he first got here how do you
05:53think he's doing
05:54look i like todd munken and i've spent some time with him i enjoy talking to him i think he
05:59gets it
06:00there are two different people in this world there are the people who get it and the people who don't
06:03get it i think he gets it the problem is when you are thrust into what has been a dysfunctional
06:09organization ever since the haslams bought it and possibly before that
06:14it it it can happen very quickly that you get pulled into the same dysfunctional quicksand and
06:19you start saying things they get you criticized you start making decisions that get scrutinized and
06:26it can turn into a vortex that ultimately you end up being someone completely different than the person
06:33that you had been so last week for example the way he was talking about deshaun watson's performance
06:39against the jaguars and finding the silver lining if there was one that's something that fans are going to
06:45look at and say this guy doesn't get it even though he does get it so you know you become
06:50a pr voice to a
06:52certain extent and there's certain things you have to say publicly and those things sometimes can't properly
06:58be sold to the customers so that's the problem he's just been dealt a bad hand and he knew he
07:05was
07:05getting a bad hand he walked up to that table knowing that it's blackjack and it's a bunch of
07:12threes and fours and sevens and whatever other cards are bad when you're playing blackjack i don't know
07:19enough about blackjack tonight i just know face cards and aces are good if you get them you know back
07:23to back but he knew he knew he was getting a bad hand and you know what happens is you're
07:2860 or close
07:29to it your ships never come in here it is what are you going to say no what are you
07:35waiting for at that
07:35point your opportunity has arrived and every coach i think is confident enough confident to the point
07:41of delusional enough that they think they can be the difference that they think they can turn it
07:44around whether it's a team whether it's a player who's been troubled in other spots i can fix it
07:49i'm good enough i'm smart enough and i can fix it and then reality sets in one game at a
07:55time and i
07:55think that's why he was so thrilled to get a win i don't think he expected to win i don't
07:59think anyone
08:00expected them to beat the buccaneers and his comment afterward the reaction to what mike tomlin had to
08:06say last week you know it's kind of thing that will endear him to fans but wins is what will
08:10make
08:11the difference and that's the one thing he says all the time that is accurate winning will change
08:15everything but it's easier said than done especially when you're dealing with a roster
08:21of players that has deficiencies at some key positions starting with quarterback mike florio
08:27joining us from pro football talk with that quarterback talk jayden daniels caleb williams
08:33jackson dart all hurt this week sam darnold out that's what one eighth of the league's quarterbacks
08:37who are dinged up already through two weeks of play is there something going on or is that just the
08:44nature of the business should the nfl do anything more to protect these guys i didn't know fractions
08:49would be involved in today's appearance thank you but i guess i did take time during the last answer
08:55mike to figure out that right four over 32 divide four by four divide 32 by four it is one
09:01eighth how
09:01about that 12.5 percent thank you if we're going to get real fancy i don't know that there's any
09:08specific trend it's just when you're talking about football stuff happens when you're out there on
09:16the field and you're in the center of the storm of activity with torsos and arms and legs whipping
09:23around things can happen guys will get injured sam darnold fairly routine falling down on his knee
09:30jams into his hip glute injury this is time caleb williams trying to accelerate on a wet sloppy field
09:38pulls his hamstring stuff happens jackson dart in the pocket gets the malachi crunch a very dated
09:44reference that one person will get and that one person will love it i loved it thank you yeah don't
09:50jump the shark please keep going it's sprained mcl yes and so stuff happens the only one that really
09:56really troubles me long term and if you go back and watch the play it was a seahawks commander
10:02sunday night game last year when jayden daniels in the game at a time when he shouldn't have been
10:07going for the end zone falls down and braces himself with his left hand and dislocates the elbow
10:13fast forward to sunday gets stepped on coming out of the center exchange falls down puts his left arm out
10:21and it looks identical so if you're falling down and you can't use your non-dominant hand to brace
10:28yourself without your elbow going out of joint that's a problem and that's the one to me that
10:35is different than stuff happens that speaks to he's got an issue with that elbow that they didn't
10:41properly address last year and he probably should have had surgery last year and now he's going to be
10:46faced with a tough decision because he's in his all-important third season trying to set up a market
10:51level contract you're not going to get the market level contract if you get elbow surgery and you're
10:56out for most of the year with that thought in mind and all the injuries baker mayfield cashed in good
11:04for him 165 million it to me it shows the importance of the position because i think tampa overpaid for
11:11him
11:11like crazy i wouldn't be surprised if they're regretting that right now but that's why these guys make so much
11:17money is it not well you only have so many opportunities to get paid and it's a highly
11:24marketable and unique skill set when you're talking about an nfl quarterback and the buccaneers were in
11:28a spot where if they didn't pay baker mayfield number one he's going to have a chip on his
11:34shoulder all year number two if he's got injuries he's going to be even less inclined to come out if
11:39he needs to come out because he's going to want to play and play through it and try to enhance
11:42his
11:43value and then number three who's your quarterback next year if you don't have baker mayfield what are
11:49you going to do so they felt like they had to pay him and look 55 million new money average
11:54on a
11:54three-year extension that's misleading because he was due to make 27 million this year you have to
11:59throw it all together it works out to something like 48 million a year which is not chump change but
12:07it's not 55 so they did what they thought was the right thing he's the quarterback they want to lead
12:12the team he's been a great transition from tom brady the problem is they got holes elsewhere on the
12:16roster and whatever it was that caused them to start falling apart last year has not been
12:22fundamentally addressed they fired the offensive coordinator they hired a new one the coach stayed
12:28something last year greased the skids from a six and two start melting into a two and seven finish
12:37and now it's two and nine since last year when they went into the bye week six and two and
12:43i i feel
12:45like it's on track for significant changes in tampa bay after this season and maybe during the season
12:52um let me ask you this going back to deshaun watson okay let's say deshaun plays okay right and
12:58they end up two and two through four games which is a possibility especially if they play like they did
13:02on sunday and then you know you got dylan gabriel coming back the browns are sitting on four
13:08quarterbacks then we talk about the injuries across the league is there any value for shador is there any
13:14value for gabriel i don't know about great i think they want to hang on to green just i just
13:18because
13:19they just drafted him but i what the the value of those two guys with other quarterbacks getting hurt
13:26and then the browns will be sitting on four quarterbacks moving forward after after week four
13:31i thought all along that dylan gabriel the falcons makes a ton of sense given the connection to kevin
13:37stefanski and how much stefanski liked him last year he ended up starting several games before week two
13:43i thought chances were we'd see gabriel by week 10 in cleveland i don't know what you do now i
13:51don't
13:51know what you do once gabriel's back and he returns from ir you're going to have to either find
13:58another injury to one of the other three guys and put him on ir or you're going to have to
14:03make this
14:03decision do we carry four quarterbacks which means one less spot available for the other positions on
14:09the team which can be problematic when it's time to address 48 guys on game day so they're going to
14:15have a decision to make once gabriel's elders of order return and they don't have to bring him back
14:21that's the thing they can leave him on ir and it's not as stringent as it used to be there
14:26was a time
14:27when they were concerned about teams stashing players on ir so if you went on ir you were done
14:34for the year you couldn't come back and now and this is a product of the pandemic now they can
14:40play all
14:40sorts of games this would be you know this is bill belichick's playground where you can stash players
14:45for a few weeks or as long as you want and they don't really have to be injured at that
14:49point and
14:50it doesn't matter and no one is pushing it so my guess would be they're going to park gabriel on
14:56ir
14:56until one of the other quarterbacks is injured or they get a trade offer for gabriel or someone else
15:03that they decide they want to take but for the team to have a surplus at quarterback this is a
15:09good
15:09development to start the season to have that many quarterbacks injured because you know sooner or
15:13later there's going to be an injury that forces someone to pick up the phone and it could be they
15:18call the browns you think anyone's calling for sanders i don't know i don't know uh i don't know
15:27would the falcons call for sand i think the falcons are more likely to call for gabriel and would the
15:33browns trade sanders i feel like we're going to see him at some point i mean do we really think
15:37that that the browns when thanksgiving rolls around are going to be in serious contention
15:44down the stretch and maybe they will and it would be great if it happens i've said many times
15:48cleveland fans deserve so much better than they've gotten and the door revolves at quarterback and coach
15:55and other positions and it's never going to revolve at ownership because you're stuck as jed york said
16:01ironically nine years ago you don't dismiss the owner well the owner can get himself into trouble
16:06but even then you don't get fired the east palestine misadventure you don't get fired for
16:12that you're the owner so that's the problem and you know maybe the browns can make it happen but i
16:18just feel like they're going to want to see what shader can do at some point this year and they're
16:22going to have decisions to make after this year and look do we really think that the starter in 2027
16:27is on the roster right now i don't and you know whether that means draft pick whether that means free
16:33agency whether that means trade i feel like somebody else is going to be starting week one of
16:37next year mike florio joining us from pro football talk mike you mentioned todd monk in a bit ago
16:42it's been so much fun to watch him and because of his attitude and that attitude has been and he's
16:50flat out said it he said hey i'm i'm 60 i've waited my whole life for this i'm not worried
16:55about the next
16:55job because there won't be one this is this is it so he's doing it his way and i kind
17:02of like the
17:02guy it's like he's you know in a circus and not using a net he doesn't care he's just doing
17:07what
17:07he wants and that's been kind of fun to watch i wish more coaches could do that yeah there's a
17:13certain point in your life where each birthday isn't a celebration of reaching another year as much
17:20as it is a celebration of the fact that you've survived another year and you get to a point
17:26where and i'm actually older than todd monk and you get to a point where you just don't care anymore
17:33and let me tell you something that is liberating you got enough money to carry you through however
17:39long you're going to live who cares what happens i'm going to live my life i'm going to enjoy myself
17:45i'm going to do what i want to do and that can be a powerful thing when you're a head
17:51coach who
17:51otherwise if you were 20 years younger would be paralyzed by fear i don't think he's ever going
17:56to be paralyzed by fear because the worst thing that's going to happen to him is the thing that
18:00he assumes is going to happen anyway he's smart enough to know at some point jimmy haslam is going
18:04to tell him his services are no longer needed and he's just going to enjoy it and he's going to
18:08go for
18:09it while he's there and that may be the best thing that could happen to the browns right now
18:13mike i only have 30 seconds tell me about your new book coming out next summer
18:17well we got to deal with crooked lane books so we're actually going to get one of these books
18:21in bookstores all over the place the book is called accessory after the fact it is about a former
18:27football player presumably a former nfl player although i'm always concerned about getting sued
18:31by overusing the names of the teams he decides once his career is over he still thirst competition
18:37he goes to law school on his first day of work at a pittsburgh law firm
18:41he comes home and he finds a former teammate unbeknownst to the main character the former
18:47teammate had escaped from prison and everything goes haywire from there due to come out next july
18:55and will be available everywhere and the one thing i've learned about doing a deal with a publisher
19:00you got to go through this whole editing process which is very different from being in full control
19:05over your content and saying it's fine it's good let's post it now man a lot of i's to dot
19:13a lot
19:13of t's to cross a lot of p's and q's to mind because for some reason publishers want to get
19:18these things
19:19perfect weird funny how that works strange strange that somebody who publishes books for a living would
19:25actually want the books to be as perfect as they can possibly be all right mike dog needs to go
19:30out just
19:31want to know just want to let you know i heard him in the back yeah she's out there barking
19:33about
19:34something that's all good hey we appreciate your time thank you good luck with the book too
19:37we'll be looking for you thanks greatly appreciate it mike all right mike florian
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