00:00Today we find out it's not the Browns, it's the Steelers going.
00:05Thoughts?
00:07Thoughts?
00:07Thoughts.
00:08Browns save some money, you don't have to go to Paris.
00:11That, it was your first thought?
00:14Um, it means we'll be working until 7 o'clock instead of...
00:18It's all about you.
00:19...4 o'clock one day.
00:20No, not all about me, it's just...
00:22Andy, I don't care where they play.
00:24I really don't.
00:26The games are all on television.
00:28They could play in a television studio and it wouldn't matter because you're watching the NFL.
00:33I'd watch it regardless of where it is.
00:36I'm not a huge international game guy.
00:41You know, you're the Pittsburgh Steelers, play your games in Pittsburgh.
00:45You're the Cleveland Browns, play your games in Cleveland.
00:48I don't know.
00:49I know Roger Goodell's trying to grow the game and he wants it all over the place.
00:51And eventually, you know, maybe even in the lifetime of anybody who's 50 and older, maybe we have an international
01:00-based team.
01:01I couldn't care less.
01:03I just like watching football and they could play in a TV studio and I'd watch.
01:09I see a little bit more.
01:10I'm going to ask Dan first before I tell you what I think about this.
01:13But what did you think when you found out the Steelers were going instead of the Browns?
01:16I was a little surprised.
01:17I mean, it seemed like there was a lot of smoke to the idea that the Browns were finding their
01:21way to Paris.
01:22I wonder why that happened.
01:24I don't know either.
01:25I'm not 100% sure.
01:27Who knows?
01:27I'm not in charge of the schedule.
01:30It's, you know, it's one of those, again, it sets up kind of what Jeff said, where it feels like
01:35we're going to have a lot of 4 o'clock games and a lot of 1 o'clock games.
01:37And we're going to roll from there.
01:39And maybe they'll throw us the Thursday night bone or we'll maybe get a Monday night.
01:43Although they don't have to, right?
01:44They don't have to do that anymore.
01:46No.
01:46So I think this is a precursor of not having a lot of nationally televised games.
01:51We knew that before the season started.
01:52I know, but maybe it's a little bit worse because this was an easy opportunity for the NFL to just
01:56kind of throw them into that game.
01:59And win eight games in two years and have no idea who your starting quarterback is going to be.
02:05Yeah.
02:06Yeah, let's put them on national TV.
02:08Sunday night, baby.
02:09Jeff, I don't know if you know this.
02:11Let's go.
02:11Let me look.
02:13Browns, A-plus draft.
02:15Browns, best draft ever.
02:17Ooh, look at this.
02:18Browns, reborn with draft.
02:20On paper.
02:21You're right, because that's going to go really well for Sunday night football.
02:24Mike, look at Spencer Fano right there breaking that block.
02:28Oh, my God.
02:28It's great watching a guy play left tackle.
02:31Look at him.
02:32Look at him halt that patch rush, I tell you, Mike.
02:35Look at two of the hottest young wide receivers in the NFL now playing on the shores of Lake Erie
02:42until they go into the dome very soon.
02:45But they'll be playing on the shores of Lake Erie.
02:47Wow.
02:47Look how exciting it's going to be for the new upstart Cleveland Browns.
02:51Remember that big draft they had last year?
02:53Hey, they're going to be good next year.
02:55It doesn't really β I mean, yeah, we're not β Shadour Sanders could be starting.
03:00Wait, what?
03:01Headlines all over the place there.
03:03Mike.
03:03Compared to other teams, those headlines don't attract a lot of attention.
03:07Carson Swessinger is one of the finer players.
03:09Let's highlight him here.
03:13You guys, you know, it's about marketing.
03:16Yeah, I know.
03:17And other teams have a better story.
03:20Would you like us to go down the list of better marketing things?
03:23For now.
03:23In your own division.
03:24I have 41-year-old Aaron Rodgers.
03:26You know, there's 3 million people that think Shadour Sanders is a big deal and will probably watch the game.
03:31Shadour Sanders, Aaron Rodgers.
03:33He might not play.
03:34You think the NFL's going to hitch their wagon to he might not play?
03:38The new β oh, all it is is Rodgers giving to me a call.
03:40There's Deshaun Watson playing quarterback.
03:42Oh, Rodgers has to do is pick up the phone.
03:43Hey, let's tiptoe around a really uncomfortable conversation.
03:45Hey, that pass went 20 yards.
03:47Hey, Jimmy, it's Rodgers.
03:48Hey, what's going on?
03:50Candidly, I'm feeling pretty good.
03:52Well, I got one for you here.
03:54Look, we decided we're going to put the Browns on Sunday night football.
03:58And got to be honest with you, you want a Super Bowl down the road?
04:01Might be beneficial to the league if Shadour Sanders and his 3 million followers are watching us tonight.
04:09I'm not saying that happens, but, I mean, it doesn't hurt.
04:14Right.
04:15No cachet?
04:16Nothing?
04:17Got nothing here, dude.
04:19Oh, God, no.
04:20Again, you guys are in the real world.
04:22Like, I get it.
04:23I understand it.
04:23And I don't disagree with your philosophy.
04:26But the marketing world says β
04:29Andy, there are better stories.
04:32Aaron Rodgers is going to attract more eyeballs than Shadour Sanders.
04:38People are intrigued with the Shadour Sanders story.
04:41Aaron Rodgers is going to attract more eyeballs than Shadour Sanders.
04:45You can't tell me Joe Burrow will get more.
04:46Lamar Jackson will get more.
04:48If they trade to Shadour, and then it becomes easy, Shadour is your starter.
04:53You don't think that they would find themselves on national TV?
04:57The line of teams to trade for Shadour or for Shadour starts over here.
05:01Oh, wait a minute.
05:03There's nobody in line.
05:04Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles will get more.
05:08You guys talk.
05:10I hear you.
05:11But I also know there's β
05:12And people get mad at me when I say this because I said β
05:15You want to go tail and green?
05:16No, you got to say β
05:16Hang on a second.
05:17Yeah.
05:20I said it about Johnny Manziel.
05:23And I like β
05:23Yeah, how'd that work out?
05:25We were relevant, whether you like it or not.
05:27I don't think β
05:28I think we gave up the better quarterback to be relevant.
05:31We did.
05:32They wanted him on the field so bad
05:35that he didn't even have to open the playbook.
05:39They put the guy on the field that didn't open the playbook.
05:42You've got to be kidding me.
05:44Like, what?
05:46But why would you do that?
05:47Marketing.
05:50Relevancy.
05:51All those things that rise your Q score.
05:54So, I would have figured that.
05:56I still will figure.
05:58It was a lot of fun hearing Chris Collinsworth go,
06:01Mike, look at Johnny Manziel run into that sack.
06:05This is entertainment.
06:06That's not the point.
06:08That's not the point.
06:09You want your best product out there for the most people to see.
06:13That's why I think, again, the bronze β
06:14I think everyone's guaranteed at least one nationally televised game, right?
06:17You have to have at least one.
06:19I know we said β
06:19It could be a Thursday night game.
06:21Well, we just said, but they're not locked into the Thursday night game
06:24since they went to prime.
06:25That's if your signal can get through, as we've all watched sometimes
06:27during these NBA playoffs, that you would want to have the Cavaliers on β
06:33or the Cavaliers.
06:34You'd want to have the Browns on earlier in the season before bad things can happen.
06:40Right?
06:40Doesn't that make sense?
06:41Or if good things happen, Andy.
06:43Well, you could always move them in.
06:47Let's go to Todd Ward1.
06:48Hi, Todd.
06:49Todd.
06:50Hey, Andy.
06:51Hey, Jeff.
06:51Hey, Dan.
06:52I'm grateful that the Browns are not going to Europe this year.
06:56Jet lag is a very real thing, and I hope all the division teams will have that jet lag.
07:02You'll have jet lag?
07:03Are you going to the game then?
07:03If they went, would you have gone?
07:05No.
07:05Oh.
07:06No.
07:06No.
07:07I go to Paris.
07:07He's got to be the first caller in the postgame show.
07:09Oh, that's true.
07:10I take that back.
07:11I will go to Paris.
07:12I like Paris a lot.
07:13It's the only place in Europe I would live.
07:18You're a big Crapes fan, aren't you?
07:20Nah.
07:21Not particularly.
07:22Not particularly.
07:22Why?
07:22They're just pancakes.
07:24Seriously.
07:25They're super little thin pancakes.
07:27That's all.
07:27I like buckwheat pancakes.
07:30It's different.
07:31It's different.
07:32And I'm hoping that all three teams come back with jet lag.
07:37I hope they come back and play the Browns at home.
07:40Well-rested Cleveland Browns team.
07:42And that's what I think about these European games for our division.
07:46If it's going to work to our advantage, I'm with it.
07:49And I think that would work to our advantage.
07:51And I also hope they come back beaten.
07:53There you go.
07:55Todd, well said.
07:56All right.
07:57See?
07:57There's an advantage there, isn't there?
07:59You're trying to find an advantage for the Browns.
08:01And you just found it.
08:03Todd's well-traveled.
08:04He is.
08:05It sounds like you live in Paris.
08:06Although, how could you not like crepes?
08:07Like, crepes are so easy, right?
08:09They're just little pancakes.
08:10Steaks.
08:11With all kinds of fun little flavors on the inside.
08:14I was watching them make them at the Westside Market the other day.
08:16It was awesome.
08:17This is right there.
08:18It's so cool how they take it and they put it on that big circle.
08:21And then they take the little wooden thing.
08:24You're not intrigued by that?
08:25Yeah, I know.
08:25I've seen them.
08:26Oh, excuse me.
08:27Yeah, I didn't mean to interrupt your time there.
08:29Didn't mean to do that.
08:32So, you don't care.
08:33That's basically what you're saying.
08:34No, I couldn't care less if they're not going to Paris.
08:36In fact, I think it's probably better.
08:39Andy, our team needs to be completely focused on just getting better.
08:44And Todd Munkin in year number one, is it a distraction to go to Paris?
08:49Yeah, a little bit probably.
08:51Maybe a little bit.
08:51But I just leave Todd and Ward one alone.
08:56Leave Todd Munkin alone.
08:57Just go ahead.
08:59Let this team get better.
09:00Let this team grow.
09:01Hopefully win some football games.
09:04All right.
09:04You win.
09:05I don't want to argue with them on this one.
09:07So, it does look like the Browns are headed down that road where they won't see a lot of
09:10nationally televised games.
09:11But it is what it is when you're coming off of a season like they did.
09:14The draft may be intriguing and you can always get shifted into some of those games later
09:18in the season.
09:19If you do prove yourself to be worthy and should be on national TV or playing meaningful games
09:26late in the season, the Browns, it looks like they're going to have to earn it because they
09:29are not on the docket for these international games.
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