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ON RECORD SA UNANG HIRIT na pinag-usapan ang pinakamalalaking balita at issue ngayon ng bansa — ang pagpapalit liderato sa Senado, pagbabalik ni Sen. Bato, at ang impeachment ni Vice President Sara Duterte.

Nakapanayam natin tungkol dito sina Prof. Froilan Calilung ng UST Dept. of Political Science at Atty. Paolo Tamase ng UP College of Law.

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00:00We can see that it's like a limelight of Senate from the House of Representatives.
00:06They rained on the Congress's parade.
00:09Exactly.
00:09The drama, the habulan, and all of these things.
00:12I think we're seeing a spectacle here.
00:16The Senado Banking is above the law.
00:19They're not in the batas.
00:21Because if anyone is serving a warrant,
00:24it's a obligation to come back to that.
00:26Bukod kay VP Sara, na maying subject ngayon ng isang paglilitis sa Senado
00:31kung itutuloy ng Senado yung trial,
00:33yung Senado mismo, nililitis ngayon ng publiko.
00:35Parang nakalulungkot yung nakita natin kahapon.
00:38Yung usapin kasi kahapon, parang nalihis na naman.
00:41We're looking at this impeachment, not just from a legal perspective,
00:44but I think it's really more about political framing heading into the 2028 elections.
00:49Technically, it's all about the control of the narrative at this point.
00:52Marami sa mating kababayan,
00:53ang nararanasan ngayon is political fatigue na, no?
01:03Pilipinas, gising na!
01:05Sulod-sulod po ang malalaking balita kahapon mula sa maaksyong pagbabalik
01:09ni Senador Bato de la Rosa sa Senado
01:11hanggang sa pagpapalit ng liderato sa Senado
01:14at ang impeachment sa Kamara ni Vice President Sara Duterte.
01:18Ano kaya sa loobin ng ating mga kapuso tungkol sa mga balitang yan?
01:22Hindi ko pabor.
01:24Wala namang nagawang masama masyadong sa DT Sara.
01:26Sa tingin ko lang.
01:27I-endorse pa naman yan sa Senado
01:30and if she will be found guilty or not,
01:34yun talagang magiging process natin.
01:38Kung meron siyang kasalanan,
01:40ay mas maganda yung maimbestiga na lang siya.
01:44I think okay naman si Kayetano na maging bagong Senado.
01:48Kay Senador Bato, it's good din na nagpakita na siya
01:51para to show his guts.
01:54Yung sinasabi niya nung bringing on,
01:57magandang challenge yan para sa kanya
02:00na patunayan niya na talaga ay siya ay lalaki.
02:07Bring it on!
02:09Para malinawan ang bayan,
02:10yan ang ating pag-uusapan at hihimayin.
02:12On record, sa unang hihim.
02:18At para sa aspetong politikal na mga issue ito,
02:21makakasama po natin live dito sa studio,
02:23Professor Froylan Calilong,
02:25political analyst mula sa USP,
02:27Department of Political Science.
02:29Prof, thank you. Welcome.
02:31At live naman via Zoom,
02:32tungkol sa usaping legal ng issue nito,
02:35Atty. Paolo Tamase ng UP College of Law.
02:38Atty, good morning. Thank you for joining us.
02:41Morningin pa.
02:42Professors, we are on record now.
02:44Anahin natin, Professor Calilong,
02:45ang dami nangyari kahapon,
02:46both sa House at sa Senate.
02:48Sa House, may impeachment vote.
02:51At sa Senate, may biglaan ko.
02:53Unang tanong ko, Professor,
02:55at the risk of sounding naib,
02:57are these two events related?
02:59Well, definitely,
03:01kitang-kita naman natin yung orchestration,
03:03siguro na,
03:04both in the upper house and in the lower house.
03:06Because, you know,
03:06in politics,
03:08nothing exists in a vacuum.
03:10Everything is really about timing
03:11and orchestration.
03:12And I think,
03:13kitang-kita naman natin dito,
03:14na parang,
03:16inagaw ng Senate yung limelight
03:17from the House of Representatives.
03:19They reigned on the Congress's parade.
03:22Exactly, exactly.
03:23And it's very, very clear
03:24what we're seeing right now.
03:26And, yun nga,
03:27binabangkit natin lagi,
03:28na behind the scenes,
03:30may mga orchestrations na nangyayari.
03:32And alam naman natin,
03:33ang goal talaga naman,
03:34or ang role naman ng lower house
03:35is to initiate and transmit.
03:37Ang goal naman,
03:39or ang role naman ng Senate
03:40is to try and to decide.
03:42So, both of them are actually
03:43weighing on the possibilities.
03:45This early,
03:46tinitignan ng lower house
03:48yung galaw sa upper house.
03:50Tinitignan din naman ng upper house
03:51yung mga nangyayari
03:52dun sa lower house.
03:53So, all these moves,
03:55I believe,
03:55yesterday are all connected.
03:58Isa pa sa kinagulat ng marami, Prof,
04:00yung pagbabalik Senado
04:02ng ilang buwang absent,
04:04na si Sen. Bato de la Rosa,
04:05ang komento tuloy ng ilan,
04:07ah, ito palang makakapagtalutang
04:09kay Sen. Bato
04:10ng aninobo na hindi nakita.
04:12Anong basa niyo rito?
04:13Did he show up
04:14for a specific mission?
04:17Yeah, I think so.
04:18And I think his presence
04:20actually created a big difference,
04:23especially in the voting.
04:25Not only that,
04:26siguro yung moral
04:28ng kanyang mga kaalyado,
04:30ng mga kasama niya
04:31dito sa Duterte Black,
04:32was also reignited
04:33because of his presence.
04:34Imagine,
04:35I think aninoboan siyang wala
04:37and then all of a sudden
04:38in that one pivotal moment
04:40when they're going to cast their vote
04:42for the change in the Senate leadership,
04:44all of a sudden,
04:45nandun siya.
04:46Kasabay nga nito,
04:47yung drama,
04:48yung habulan,
04:49and all of these things.
04:50I think,
04:51we're seeing a spectacle here,
04:53right?
04:54Before our very eyes
04:55in the context of the,
04:56what's happening in the Senate
04:58at the moment.
04:58Attorney Tamase,
05:00pag-usapan po natin
05:01itong paglutang ni Sen. Bato.
05:02So, before yesterday apparently,
05:04wala namang pumipigil sa kanya
05:06na lumutang,
05:06hindi ba?
05:08Wala naman, no?
05:09Pwede naman po talaga siya
05:10magpakita at any time
05:11dahil noong time po na yun,
05:13at least hindi natin alam
05:14na mayroong warrant of arrest
05:15na nailabas yung ICC.
05:17Now, apparently,
05:18may warrant of arrest na pala
05:19from the ICC.
05:21Please tell us
05:22what the law states on this.
05:23Sabi ng ICC,
05:24walang public warrant,
05:25pero sinabi nila
05:26mayroon palang secret warrant
05:28for Sen. Bato
05:29being a co-perpetrator.
05:32So,
05:32dalawang mabilis na punto,
05:34yung una,
05:35hindi naman kasi
05:35nakita natin ito
05:37sa practice ng ICC,
05:38hindi naman lahat
05:39ng warrant niya
05:40ay public.
05:41In fact,
05:42may sense minsan
05:43na ang warrant
05:43ay secret
05:44kasi naka-address
05:45yung mga warrant
05:47upol sa pag-aresto
05:48ng mga makakapangyarihan
05:50na opisyal
05:51sa isang bansa.
05:52Allegedly Responsible
05:54for Crimes Against Humanity,
05:55all of these other offenses.
05:57So,
05:57mas may sense actually
05:59na patago
06:00yung pag-issue
06:01at pag-enforce
06:02ng warrant na iyon.
06:03Pangalawa,
06:04hindi kasi natin
06:05hindi malinaw
06:06sa batas natin ngayon
06:08kung pwede ba
06:09itong warrant na ito
06:10or rather
06:11kung yung warrant na ito
06:12ay
06:14pwede ma-enforce
06:15sa ating sistema.
06:16Pero ang weight
06:17kasi ng academic opinion
06:18ay hindi naman
06:19itinagbabawal
06:20yung pag-issue
06:20ng warrant na ito
06:21at pwede siya ma-issue
06:23kahit sa mga
06:23sitting officials natin
06:24gaya ng isang senador.
06:26So,
06:27ikalawang
06:28punto,
06:29attorney,
06:29can a warrant
06:30be served to him
06:31in the Senate premises?
06:33Kasi mukhang
06:33isa yun sa mga
06:34pinag-usapan kahapon.
06:36Barang
06:36huwag niyong gagalawin
06:37ang isa sa mga
06:38miyembro natin.
06:40So,
06:41una,
06:41pag-delig din natin
06:42yung kasaysayan
06:43ng Senado,
06:44very recently
06:45or within the last
06:4610 years
06:46nagkaroon ng warrant
06:47na na-serve
06:48laban kay Senator Trillanes
06:49at hindi naman yun
06:51pinigil
06:52ng mga kapwa
06:53niyang senador
06:53from enforcement.
06:54So,
06:55na-serve sa kanya yun
06:56at sumama siya sa police
06:57anong binawi
06:58yung kanyang amnesty.
07:00Pero siguro
07:01mas malagang
07:02usapin dyan
07:03kung
07:04yung Senado
07:05ba,
07:05ang ting nila
07:05ay nasa
07:06above the law sila
07:07na parang hindi sila
07:09kabilang doon
07:09sa batalas.
07:10Kasi kung kahit
07:10sinong tao
07:11ang maserva
07:11ng warrant,
07:12obligasyon
07:13kahit pa paano
07:14na sumunod doon.
07:16Sumama sa police,
07:17sumama doon
07:17sa nage-enforce.
07:18Pero kung ginagamit
07:19yung Senado
07:20upang iwasan
07:21yung pag-serve
07:22ng warrant na iyon,
07:23ang tingin ba
07:23ng Senado
07:24ay nasa
07:24above siya,
07:25nasa lahat sa atin
07:26na similarly
07:27obliged to comply
07:28with warrants.
07:30Itong warrants
07:32isinisilbi
07:33kay Sen.
07:33Bato
07:33when the
07:34Senate
07:34is under
07:35new
07:36and
07:37sympathetic
07:38leadership.
07:39The Senate
07:39is obviously
07:40more protective
07:40of one of its own.
07:42Ano ba mga
07:42senaryo,
07:43attorney?
07:43Ang warrants
07:43daw kasi
07:44galing sa ICC
07:45na hindi na
07:46tayo
07:46miyembro
07:46at kailangan
07:47daw ang warrants
07:48manggaling
07:48sa isang
07:49Philippine court.
07:50Your thoughts
07:50on this?
07:51So,
07:52from the
07:52academic side,
07:53I think
07:55nalo na
07:55noon tayo
07:56na na-arresto
07:57si Pangulong
07:57Duterte,
07:58yung opinion
07:59naman ng
07:59Higan Academics
08:00is may difference
08:01between yung
08:02warrant requirement
08:03sa ating
08:04Saligong Batas
08:04at yung
08:05pag-surrender
08:06ng isang
08:06akusado sa ICC
08:07na hindi
08:09pinagbabawal
08:09yung surrender
08:10ng isang
08:11akusado sa ICC
08:12kahit wala
08:13pag-warrant
08:14wala sa
08:14korte.
08:15But in any
08:16event,
08:16ang intindi natin
08:17mula sa
08:17statements
08:18ng Philippine
08:19National Police
08:20ay willing
08:21sila to enforce
08:22yung warrant
08:22na iyon
08:23kung may wrong
08:23order from
08:24a local
08:24court.
08:25So,
08:25pwedeng
08:25mangyari
08:26na out of
08:26caution
08:27para lang
08:28hindi na
08:28tumaantala
08:29ay humili
08:30ng warrant
08:31from a
08:32lower court
08:32on the basis
08:33of yung
08:34ICC
08:34na warrant.
08:34kaya lang
08:35makaka-expecta
08:36naman tayo
08:37ng delays
08:37dun sa arrest
08:38ni Senator
08:39De La Rosa
08:40kung ganoon.
08:41Right.
08:41Professor Calilong,
08:42sir,
08:43yung timing
08:44nitong Senate
08:44coup
08:45noticeably
08:46and conveniently
08:47coincided
08:48with the
08:48House vote
08:49on impeachment.
08:50Sa tingin nyo ba
08:51ito'y
08:52tangkarin?
08:54Was there
08:54an attempt
08:55to influence
08:55the outcome
08:56of the plenary
08:56vote
08:57sa lower
08:58House
08:58by doing
08:59by mounting
09:00the Senate
09:00coup?
09:01Well,
09:01it could have
09:02been part
09:03of the design
09:04sa Senate
09:05pero kasi
09:06ang baso ko rito
09:07na bago pa
09:08magbutuhan
09:08kahapon sa plenary
09:10many of these
09:11people who voted
09:12yes to the impeachment
09:13already made
09:14the decision
09:15siguro several
09:16days ago
09:16or probably
09:17during the weekend
09:18and it will be
09:19very hard
09:20to stop that
09:21because
09:21may mga
09:23coalitions
09:24that have been
09:25made
09:25there have already
09:26been transactions
09:27that have been
09:28created
09:28and I think
09:29it's going to be
09:30very hard for them
09:30although I think
09:31kahapon may mga
09:32maaaring
09:34nag-iisip
09:34that this
09:35impeachment
09:36may be
09:37considered
09:37dead on arrival
09:38pagdating pa lang
09:39sa Senate
09:40because of this
09:40change of leadership
09:41pero maaaring
09:42hindi nito
09:43na-influensyahan
09:44remember
09:45Alan Peter
09:45Ketano
09:46Senator Ketano
09:47is totally
09:48different from
09:49Senator Tito
09:50Soto
09:51especially
09:51with the way
09:52he views
09:53the impeachment
09:53dito pa lang
09:55maaaring
09:56asahan natin
09:56may mga
09:57procedural delays
09:58may mga
09:58jurisdiction
09:59question
10:00siya
10:00na ilalatag
10:01and this
10:01may cause
10:02delay
10:03dito sa
10:03proseso
10:04and this
10:04delay
10:05may really
10:05create
10:06a tremendous
10:07impact
10:08dito sa
10:09lalakaran
10:10itong impeachment
10:10dahil
10:11kapag may delays
10:12yung timing
10:13kasi sa impeachment
10:13is very
10:14very important
10:15technically
10:15so
10:16these things
10:17could really
10:17affect it
10:17especially
10:18the public
10:18perception
10:19at the moment
10:19what do you
10:20make
10:20what do you make
10:21of the outcome
10:21na sa kabila
10:22ng senate
10:22leadership
10:23change
10:23na perceived
10:25to be
10:25pro-Duterte
10:25na
10:26ang impeachment
10:26court
10:27nakakuha pa rin
10:27ng 257
10:29votes
10:29what does that
10:30say about
10:31the political
10:31clown
10:31ni
10:32VP Duterte
10:33as a
10:34presidential
10:34frontrunner
10:35also in
10:352028
10:36well
10:36I think
10:37two things
10:38I think
10:39kung titignan
10:40naman natin
10:41yung composition
10:41ng mga bumoto
10:42in favor of
10:43impeachment
10:44sa kongreso
10:44yung ilan dyan
10:45actually are
10:46quite
10:47partial naman
10:48talaga
10:48to the
10:49vice president
10:50but then again
10:51they voted
10:51primarily
10:52because they
10:53would want
10:53to also
10:54give the
10:54vice president
10:55the right
10:56forum
10:57and the right
10:57venue
10:58to also
10:58air her side
10:59so yun
11:00yung
11:00contention
11:01nila
11:01hindi naman
11:02ito yung
11:03pagboto
11:03na again
11:04sila
11:04kay VP
11:05kundi
11:05gusto naman
11:06yung bigyan
11:06ng pagkakataon
11:07talagang mailata
11:08so mankita
11:09natin dito
11:10na yung
11:10dynamics
11:11sa kongreso
11:12mankita natin
11:13225 lang yata
11:14or 26
11:15yung hindi
11:15bumoto
11:17talagang
11:18kitang kita
11:18rito
11:19yung
11:19kagustuhan
11:20talaga
11:20ng mayoria
11:21dito sa
11:22house
11:22na
11:23i-transmit
11:24ka agad
11:24sa senado
11:25pero yun nga
11:26at the end of the day
11:27it's always a
11:27political numbers
11:28ballgame
11:28pagdating sa senate
11:29and siguro
11:30nakinig din sila
11:31sa sentiment
11:32ng publiko
11:33because the
11:33surveys would indicate
11:34na ang
11:35karamihan sa mga
11:36Pilipino
11:36would want this
11:37impeachment trial
11:38to proceed
11:39exactly
11:39and I think
11:40this is
11:41but right
11:41if really
11:43we're looking
11:43at accountability
11:44and justice
11:45and I think
11:46in the long run
11:46this will really
11:47create
11:48good avenues
11:50for democratic
11:51spaces
11:51so I think
11:53maganda rin
11:53naman
11:54na
11:54maituloy
11:54na
11:55ang siguro
11:56ang kailangan
11:56natitignan
11:57dito
11:57is
11:57gaano
11:58ba
11:59katagal
11:59yung
11:59proseso
12:00kasi
12:00sabi ko
12:01kanina
12:01yung timing
12:02kasi
12:02po pwedeng
12:03magpababa
12:03ng momentum
12:04po pwede
12:05rin
12:05matabunan
12:06yung issue
12:06po pwedeng
12:07mag-create
12:08ng panibagong
12:08perception
12:09yung publiko
12:10regarding this
12:11so we
12:11really need
12:11to do
12:12this
12:12ideally
12:13as soon
12:13as possible
12:14Attorney Tamase
12:15andito
12:16din po
12:17sa mga usaping
12:18ito
12:18yung elemento
12:19ni former
12:20Senator Antonio
12:21Trillanes
12:22na siyang
12:22nagpakita
12:23ng warant
12:24pakipaliwanag
12:25nga
12:25marami
12:25nagtataka
12:26bakit siya
12:26may hawak
12:27ng warant
12:28at may
12:28kapangirihan
12:29ba siya
12:29na mag
12:30enforce
12:30ng warant
12:31na yun
12:32so
12:33dito po
12:34kasi
12:34makikita
12:35yung
12:35hindi
12:35ganun
12:35kalinis
12:36yung
12:36interaction
12:37ng
12:37international
12:38law
12:38at
12:38domestic
12:38law
12:39natin
12:39from
12:39the
12:39domestic
12:40law
12:40angle
12:40at least
12:41medyo
12:41unusual
12:41po
12:42for a
12:44na mag
12:45enforce
12:45ng warant
12:46ang warant
12:46po sa
12:47Pilipinas
12:47ay naka-address
12:48sa
12:48mga
12:49officer
12:50of the
12:50law
12:50police
12:51etc.
12:51upang
12:52i-enforce
12:53po
12:53yun
12:53sa ICC
12:54na itindihan
12:54kung
12:55may slight
12:55differences
12:56tungkol
12:57doon
12:57but I
12:59think
12:59in any
12:59event
12:59ang
13:00nangyari
13:01kasi
13:01kahapon
13:02ay
13:02para lang
13:03siguro
13:03makipakita
13:04din
13:04sa publiko
13:05na
13:05narito
13:06na
13:06yung
13:06nagtatago
13:07na
13:07senator
13:08before
13:08nagtatago
13:09siya
13:09precisely
13:09dahil
13:10may warant
13:10so
13:11my sense
13:11is less
13:14tics
13:14yung
13:14nangyari
13:15kahapon
13:15ukol
13:16din sa
13:16pag
13:17enforce
13:17ng
13:17warant
13:17but
13:18hindi po
13:18kasi
13:19na
13:19naapektuhan
13:19yung
13:19legalidad
13:20ng warant
13:21na
13:21na
13:21basta
13:21ng
13:21ICC
13:22Tapos
13:23isa
13:23pang
13:23tanong
13:23bakit
13:24may
13:24kopya
13:24ng
13:24warant
13:25si
13:25Senator
13:25Trillanes
13:26na
13:27hindi
13:27hawak
13:27ng
13:27PNP
13:28or
13:28ng
13:28law
13:29enforcement
13:30agencies
13:30Kung
13:31hindi
13:31ko
13:32alam
13:32kung
13:32ano
13:32yung
13:33link
13:33kung
13:33paano
13:34po
13:34niya
13:34nakuha
13:34although
13:35alam
13:35naman po
13:35natin
13:35na
13:36active
13:36kasi
13:36si
13:36Senator
13:37Trillanes
13:37dun sa
13:38I think
13:39sa paghahain
13:39nung
13:40complaint
13:40dun sa
13:41ICC
13:41So
13:42there are
13:43a couple
13:43of reasons
13:43po
13:43na
13:44pwede
13:44doon
13:44siguro
13:45po
13:45ang
13:45bottom
13:46line
13:46lang
13:46na
13:47hindi
13:47natin
13:47kasiguruan
13:48sa mga
13:48nangyari
13:49sa
13:49ground
13:50ay
13:51hindi
13:51po
13:51naapektuhan
13:52yung
13:52legalidad
13:52ng
13:53warant
13:54So
13:54patas
13:55pa rin
13:55po
13:56na
13:56paging
13:56basihan
13:57yung
13:57warant
13:57ngayon
13:58dun sa
13:58pag-aresto
13:59para kay
14:00Senator
14:01De La Rosa
14:01So
14:02ngayon
14:02attorney
14:03may
14:03warrant
14:04of arrest
14:04from the
14:05ICC
14:05na kinumpirma
14:06na nila
14:06Si
14:07Senator
14:07Bato
14:07nasa
14:08ilalim
14:09ng
14:09protective
14:09custody
14:10ng
14:11Senado
14:11Paano
14:12ba
14:12ibig
14:12sabihin
14:12ito
14:12pwede
14:13ba
14:13siyang
14:14hulihin
14:14o
14:14pwede
14:15ba
14:15siyang
14:15lumabas
14:15ang
14:16Senado
14:16How
14:16does
14:17this
14:17protective
14:17custody
14:18work
14:18attorney
14:19Well
14:20yung
14:20protective
14:21custody
14:21ay wala
14:22naman
14:22sa ating
14:22saligang
14:23batas
14:23at
14:24maging
14:24sa mga
14:24batas
14:25natin
14:26mayroon
14:27kahit
14:27paano
14:28tradisyon
14:28yung mga
14:29kongreso
14:30na pinoprotektahan
14:31nila yung mga
14:31senador
14:32o kongresista
14:33nila
14:33laban
14:34sa political
14:34persecution
14:35so
14:36titignan natin
14:36yung kaso
14:37ng Batasan
14:375
14:38kung naalala
14:38ninyo
14:39no
14:392000
14:40pero yung
14:41more recent
14:41president
14:42dyan
14:42ay yung
14:43senado
14:43sila mismo
14:44yung
14:44nag-give
14:44up
14:44kay
14:45Senator
14:45Delima
14:45at
14:46kay
14:46Senator
14:46Triniales
14:47nung
14:47nakarang
14:47administration
14:48so
14:49kung
14:49titignan
14:50natin
14:50na template
14:50at
14:51itatali
14:51natin
14:52ito
14:52sa
14:52larger
14:52na
14:52usapin
14:53mas
14:53malaking
14:53usapin
14:54sa
14:54pananagutan
14:55mas
14:55mahalaga
14:56siguro
14:56para sa
14:56senado
14:57na ipakita
14:57na bagaman
14:58senador
14:58bagaman
14:59napakahalagan
15:00nung isang
15:00tao
15:01sa gobyerno
15:02hindi siya
15:03nasa
15:03taas
15:03ng batas
15:04kailangan
15:05siyang
15:05maibalik
15:06dun sa
15:07mga
15:07prosesong
15:07legal
15:08may
15:09sinasabi
15:09ho
15:09argumento
15:10si
15:11Triniales
15:12si
15:12former
15:13Senator
15:14Triniales
15:14na
15:15obstruction
15:15of
15:16justice
15:16daw
15:16ang ginagawa
15:17ng senado
15:17what do you
15:18think of
15:18that
15:18statement
15:21dahil nga
15:21medyo
15:22unusual
15:23yung kaso
15:23na ito
15:24na yung
15:24prosecution
15:25ay nangyari
15:26sa
15:26international
15:26plane
15:27at
15:28domestic
15:28naman
15:29yung
15:29isopin
15:29ng
15:29obstruction
15:30of
15:30justice
15:30baka
15:31hindi
15:31ganun
15:31kalinis
15:32yung
15:32translation
15:33and I
15:33think
15:34makakaantay
15:35tayo
15:35in the
15:35next few
15:35days
15:36kung may
15:36full
15:36picture
15:37tayo
15:37kung
15:37may
15:37nangyari
15:38dun sa
15:38senado
15:38kung
15:39mayroon
15:39nga
15:39kaso
15:39Professor
15:41Calilong
15:41considering
15:41all of
15:42these
15:42developments
15:43ano
15:43sa
15:44tingin
15:44ninyo
15:44ang
15:45kalalabasan
15:45ng
15:45impeachment
15:46process
15:46against
15:46the
15:46vice
15:47president
15:47well
15:48if
15:49we're
15:49going
15:49to
15:50look
15:50at
15:50the
15:50impeachment
15:50as
15:51a
15:51purely
15:51political
15:52number
15:52scheme
15:53clearly
15:53right
15:54now
15:54the
15:55tides
15:55have
15:56changed
15:57in
15:57favor
15:57of
15:58the
15:58pro
15:58detentive
15:59block
15:59pero
16:00we need
16:00to
16:00also
16:01understand
16:01sa
16:02pagulong
16:03nitong
16:03impeachment
16:04proceeding
16:04na ito
16:05at
16:05paglalatag
16:06ng
16:06mga
16:06ebidensya
16:07at
16:07mga
16:07testimony
16:07maaaring
16:09magkaroon
16:10din
16:10naman
16:11sabihin
16:11na
16:12natin
16:12pagbabago
16:13yung
16:13ilang
16:14sa
16:14kanilang
16:14mga
16:15perception
16:16except
16:16for
16:16those
16:17na
16:17masasabi
16:18natin
16:18talagang
16:18hardline
16:19Duterte
16:20supporters
16:20pero
16:21nananalig
16:22naman
16:22tayo
16:22talaga
16:23na
16:23yung
16:23katotohanan
16:24at
16:24saka
16:24yung
16:25accountability
16:26naman
16:27ang gusto
16:27natin
16:27dito
16:28makita
16:28kasi
16:28kapag
16:29hindi
16:29natupag
16:30yun
16:30maaaring
16:30magkaroon
16:31talaga
16:31ng
16:32cynicism
16:32or
16:33skepticism
16:33it may
16:34erode
16:35yung
16:35tinatawag
16:36nating
16:36institutional
16:36trust
16:37and
16:38it
16:38does
16:38not
16:38set
16:38a
16:38good
16:38precedence
16:39for
16:39our
16:39democracy
16:40attorney
16:41with the
16:42senate
16:42now being
16:43led
16:43by the
16:43so-called
16:44Duterte
16:44Black
16:44ano
16:45yung
16:45mga
16:46hakbang
16:47na nakikita
16:47ninyong
16:47pwedeng
16:48gawin
16:48ng
16:48bagong
16:48mayorya
16:49at
16:49ang
16:49bottom
16:50line
16:50anong
16:50kahihinat
16:51na ng
16:51impeachment
16:51process
16:52kasi
16:52before
16:53yesterday
16:54may
16:54statement
16:55na nga
16:55si
16:55senator
16:56robin
16:56padilla
16:56na
16:57haharangin
16:57daw nila
16:58o
16:58i-oppose
16:59sila
16:59itong
16:59proseso
17:00nito
17:01na
17:02hindi
17:02ako
17:02rin
17:02naman
17:02na
17:02after
17:03na
17:03may
17:03statement
17:03si
17:04senator
17:04Cayetano
17:05na hindi
17:05ukol
17:06sa
17:06impeachment
17:06pero
17:07siguro
17:08mapapatawad
17:09tayo
17:09ni
17:09senate
17:09president
17:10Cayetano
17:10kung
17:11medyo
17:11skeptical
17:11yung
17:12publiko
17:12at
17:12academic
17:13ukol
17:13dito
17:14sa
17:14issue
17:14na
17:14ito
17:14kung
17:15babalikan
17:15natin
17:16yung
17:16nangyari
17:16noong
17:17nakarang
17:17impeachment
17:17si
17:18senator
17:18Cayetano
17:19yung
17:19may
17:19theory
17:19nung
17:20remand
17:20kaya
17:21naibalik
17:21doon
17:21sa
17:22House
17:22of
17:22Representatives
17:22at
17:23nakita
17:23natin
17:23yung
17:24pingpong
17:24so
17:25siguro
17:25in
17:25the final
17:25analysis
17:26bottom
17:26line
17:27nito
17:27bukod
17:28kay VP
17:29Sara
17:29na
17:29may
17:30subject
17:30ngayon
17:31ng isang
17:31paglilitis
17:31sa Senado
17:32kung
17:32itutuloy
17:33ng Senado
17:33yung
17:34trial
17:34yung
17:35Senado
17:35mismo
17:35nininitis
17:36nga
17:36ng publiko
17:37mataas
17:38usually
17:38yung
17:38tingin
17:38natin
17:38sa Senado
17:39senior
17:40siya
17:40na
17:40body
17:41nationally
17:41elected
17:42nationally
17:43constituency
17:44ngunit
17:45parang
17:45nakalulungkot
17:46yung nakita
17:46natin
17:47kahapon
17:47yung
17:48kabulan
17:48doon
17:49sa loob
17:50ng Senado
17:50yung
17:51theatrics
17:51around it
17:52hindi naman
17:53sa hindi
17:53nangayari
17:54yun
17:54lalo
17:55na
17:55sa isang
17:55konteksto
17:56ng
17:56impeachment
17:56pero
17:57yung
17:57usapin
17:58kasi
17:58kahapon
17:58parang
17:59nalihis
17:59na
17:59naman
18:00mula
18:00doon
18:01sa
18:01impeachment
18:02napunta
18:03na
18:03naman
18:03sa
18:03ibang
18:04bagay
18:04siguro
18:05kailangan
18:05din
18:05natin
18:06bilang
18:06mamamayan
18:07lalo
18:08na
18:08yung
18:08institutional
18:09diago
18:10na
18:11accountability
18:11natin
18:11yung
18:12media
18:12yung
18:12akademiko
18:13na
18:13magfocus
18:14doon
18:14sa issue
18:14upang
18:15hindi
18:15siya
18:15maantala
18:16or
18:16malihis
18:17doon
18:17sa
18:17totoong
18:18napapag-usapan
18:18huwag natin
18:19kalimutan
18:20ng impeachment
18:20ay isang
18:21accountability
18:21mechanism
18:22as a
18:23final word
18:23professor
18:24calilong
18:24attorney
18:24tamasi
18:25please
18:25help
18:25our
18:25viewers
18:26make
18:26sense
18:26of
18:26all
18:27of
18:27this
18:27anong
18:27dapat
18:28nilang
18:28tingnan
18:29dito
18:29sa
18:29mga
18:29nangyayari
18:30ngayon
18:30basically
18:31we're
18:32looking at
18:32this
18:32impeachment
18:33not
18:33just
18:33from
18:34a
18:34legal
18:34perspective
18:35but
18:35I
18:35think
18:35it's
18:36really
18:36more
18:36about
18:36political
18:37framing
18:37heading
18:38into
18:38the
18:382028
18:39elections
18:39dito
18:40na
18:40nakikita
18:41natin
18:41yung
18:41structural
18:42alignments
18:42yung
18:43fluidity
18:43ng mga
18:43coalitions
18:44and
18:45technically
18:45it's all
18:45about
18:46the
18:46control
18:46of the
18:46narrative
18:47at this
18:47point
18:48and
18:48parehong
18:49kampo
18:49they're
18:49trying to
18:50actually
18:50win
18:51the
18:51public
18:51sentiment
18:52pero
18:52sana
18:53makita
18:53rin
18:53natin
18:53dito
18:54at
18:54maunawaan
18:54natin
18:55yung
18:55sentimiento
18:55talaga
18:56ng
18:56taong
18:56bayan
18:56kasi
18:57baka
18:58marami
18:59sa
18:59mating
18:59kababayan
19:00ang
19:01naranasan
19:01ngayon
19:01is
19:02political
19:02fatigue
19:02parang
19:03ano bang
19:04impeachment
19:04yan
19:04makakain
19:05ba
19:05namin
19:05yan
19:05ano bang
19:06mangyari
19:07sa amin
19:07kung
19:08matuloy
19:08yung
19:08pagbabangayan
19:09so I think
19:09it's time
19:11to also
19:11try to
19:12veer away
19:13from this
19:13so-called
19:13political
19:14noise
19:14and try
19:14to focus
19:15also
19:15on some
19:15levels
19:16of
19:16governance
19:17para sa
19:17mga
19:17kababayan
19:18I think
19:23yung
19:23impeachments
19:23present
19:24a rare
19:24opportunity
19:25kung saan
19:26yung
19:26normally
19:27characterized
19:28na legal
19:28na
19:28proseso
19:29involved
19:29talaga
19:30yung
19:30mamamayan
19:30so I
19:31agree
19:32yung sentiment
19:32na parang
19:33may risk
19:34of fatigyan
19:35lalo na
19:35kung
19:35maakaluan pa siya
19:36ng ibang issue
19:37na hindi
19:37related to
19:38impeachment
19:38pero
19:39baka
19:39calling
19:40din siya
19:40para sa
19:40ating
19:41mamamayan
19:41to exercise
19:42a little
19:43more
19:43responsibility
19:43para sa
19:44ating
19:44bayan
19:45hindi
19:45lamang
19:45sa
19:46pagbaboto
19:46ng
19:46tama
19:46kundi
19:47sa
19:47pagbabantay
19:48sa mga
19:48proseso
19:49ng pananagutan
19:49natin
19:50kasi
19:50kung
19:50hindi
19:51naman
19:51mahalaga
19:52sa atin
19:52yan
19:52kung tayo
19:53mismo
19:53yung
19:53mapapagod
19:54wala
19:54talaga
19:54tayong
19:55patutungukan
19:55maraming salamat
19:57very well said
19:58attorney
19:58tamase sir
19:59professor
20:00kalilong
20:01thank you
20:01mga kapuso
20:02narinig po natin
20:03ang pahayang
20:03na professor
20:04froylan
20:04kalilong
20:05at attorney
20:05paulo
20:06tamase
20:06ang mga
20:07issue
20:08ang pinag-uusapan
20:09lilinawin
20:09at hihibayin
20:10natin
20:10on record
20:11sa unang hirin
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