00:00They were not in the Court.
00:01They weren't allowed for the Senate to vote on a protection of the Court.
00:11The Senate has no option to start the case.
00:17They made it fourth way.
00:21This is also political.
00:22They didn't wait to get an impeachment trial.
00:33Filipinas, gising na ah!
00:35Patuloy pong pinag-uusapan ng bayan ng mga pangyayari sa Senado.
00:39Ano kaya reaksyon ng mga kababayan natin dyan?
00:43Ay nako, walang kusang kaguluhan.
00:45At syempre, kami din ng mga mahihirap.
00:48Bate yung mga bilihin ngayon, nadadamay,
00:51gaya sa kaguluhan na yan.
00:53Okay lang, kasi naminigay naman sila ng ayuda
00:56ng tulong sa mga probinsa-probinsya.
00:58Parang piyesta or clown na parang sirkos.
01:04Kasi ang dami nilang theatrics, may mga drama, may alitan, away.
01:08Why not? Improve na lang natin yung country natin, di ba?
01:11Kaysa nag-away-away tayo.
01:12Okay lang yan. At least, mayroon pa naman kinutulong ang presidente sa atin.
01:19Yan ang ating pag-uusapan, lilinawin at hihimayin.
01:23On record, sa unang hirin.
01:28At mga kapuso, mga kapatayan po natin ngayong umaga,
01:31dating Senate President at dating Justice Secretary, Franklin Drilon.
01:36Senator Drilon, sir, good morning. Thank you for joining us.
01:40Magandang umaga po and thank you for having me this morning.
01:43Si Ivan po, Senator Drilon, we are on record now.
01:46Ang sabi po ng Malacanang kahapon, hindi sila makikialam at nagtitiwala silang gagawin ng Senado ang tama
01:52at kung ano ang naayon sa batas bilang mga mababatas.
01:56Himayin po natin, Senator Drilon, yung dalawang mahalagang isyong kinakaharap ngayon ng Senado bilang isang institusyon.
02:02Isang institusyon kinabilangan at pinamunuan ninyo ng mahabang panahon.
02:06Two things, sir. The Senator Bato de la Rosa situation and the VP Sarah Duterte impeachment.
02:12Ulahin po natin yung tungkol kay Sen. Bato.
02:14Sa ngayon, Sen. nasa protective custody ng Senado si Sen. Bato.
02:19Pakipaliwanag nga po itong konsepto nitong protective custody?
02:22Wala po sa batas yan. Walang nagbibigay ng kapangyarihan sa Senado na maglagay sa isang kinatawan sa protective custody.
02:37Yan po ay ginagamit pag nakalayo sa ating witness protection program kung inalagay mo yung isang testigo
02:49sa kapangyarihan sa kapangyarihan with his or her consent ng ating authorities, ng ating Department of Justice.
02:58Ngunit wala pong konsepto ng protective custody in other matters.
03:04Lalo na po ang Senado. Yan po ay ginagamit.
03:08Ngunit yan po ay by traditional and out of respect sa Senado ay binibigyan ng halaga yung protective custody.
03:19Ngunit kung batas ang ating pag-uusapan, wala pong kapangyarihan ganon.
03:24Kung ganon, Sen. Dilon, what justifies the continuing stay of Sen. Bato in the Senate premises and what can be
03:32done about it?
03:32Okay, what can justify sa ating reglamento po sa Senado, ang may kapangyarihan sa mga premises ng Senado ay ang
03:45Pangulo ng Senado.
03:47The Senate President has control over the facilities.
03:51Kung sino ang dapat manatili sa loob ng gusali, yan po ay nasa kapangyarihan ng Pangulo ng Senado.
04:01So, yun po ang basihan.
04:03Pwede po bang mag-intervene ang Executive or perhaps Supreme Court pag may maghaim po ng petisyon doon?
04:11May mga pinalulutang po kasi mga opinion na ang ginagawa ng Senado ay baka obstruction of justice daw o kay
04:18pagkanlong sa isang fugitive.
04:22Halimbawa, kung pagpasyahan ng Malacanang na yung warrant of arrest ng ICC,
04:31ay tutupo pa rin.
04:33Pwede po nilang aristoin si Sen. Bato at dalhin po sa Hague.
04:42Yan po nangyari na kay Pangulong Duterte.
04:45Pagpapa niya sa aeroplano, kinarga siya sa private plane at dinala doon po sa Hague.
04:52Yan po kung ibig gawin ng Ehekutibo, yan po ay nasa kapangyarihan ng Pangulong Marcos.
05:01The latest on this, Senator, ay naghahain po ng resolusyon ang limang minority Senators urging Senator Bato to surrender at
05:11to submit himself to the ICC warrant.
05:14Ano ang masasabi niyo rito?
05:16Ayan po ay sentimento ng ibang Senador ng aking kasamahan dati na hinihiling para po maiwasan ang lahat na gulutong,
05:27ang lahat nitong alitan na subuko na and voluntarily submit to the jurisdiction of the ICC.
05:37Para sa ganun, manilitis ang kaso at kung wala namang kasalanan, wala namang nagkasala, ay hindi matapos na.
05:44Dahilan sa ngayon po ay medyo nalulungkot ako sa nangyayari sa aking dating institusyon.
05:52Oho, ayun nga ho. I was going to go there, Senator.
05:55Let's talk about the events of May 11.
05:57NBI operatives nasa Senate premises para maghahain ng arrest warrant against a sitting senator.
06:03May takbuhan nangyari.
06:04Okay. Memes are all over the internet, Senator, over this incident,
06:09na marami po yung naniniwala that this erodes the credibility and dignity of the Senate and the Senators.
06:16What's your take on the events of May 11?
06:19Sangayon po ako dyan.
06:21Talaga po, hindi po maiwasan na talagang sasabihin,
06:25kakahiya naman ito, naghahabotan pa.
06:28Eh, dahilan po sa pangyayari yan, ako po ay nalulungkot.
06:33Sa institution po, kung saan marami akong tao na binuhos,
06:4224 taon akong Senador.
06:44Dalawang impeachment trial ang aking kinaan.
06:47Ngunit wala po ganitong naghahabulan sa loob ng gusali ng Senado.
06:54At madagdag ko lang, ito po lahat ay dahilan sa alalan sa 2028.
07:02Puro po politika ito.
07:03Bakit po?
07:04Dahilan alam naman natin na kung magtrial,
07:08eh, yung maganda para doon sa kay Sarah Duterte,
07:13dahil ang lahat ng mga charges against her na ating narinig sa House of Representatives,
07:19ay ibubunyag at ililitisin sa Senado in an impeachment trial.
07:25Kaya yan po ay, kung tanungin mo ang grupo ni Sarah Duterte,
07:32hindi dapat mangyari dahil nakakalungkot,
07:36nakakasama ito para sa kanyang layunin na magiging pangulo in the election of 2028.
07:46So yan ang dahilan po sa, dahil sa rason na yan,
07:50eh, kaya pinipigil ang impeachment trial.
08:00Kaya po ayaw matuloy.
08:02Ang kabilang kampo naman,
08:03ibig nalang matuloy para malaman ang taong bayan ko
08:06ano ba talaga ang nangyari through an impeachment trial.
08:09Bago ko dumako doon sa impeachment ni Vice President Sarah Duterte,
08:13one last point on the situation with Sen. Bato.
08:16Ang posisyon po ni Sen. President Cayetano,
08:20kailangan manggaling daw sa isang local court ang warrant.
08:23Even Sen. Bato said,
08:24willing siyang humarap sa isang local court but not the ICC.
08:27Ito ho bang demand na ito ay justified?
08:29Valid ba itong warrant?
08:31At nire-raise din kasi ang issue ng sovereignty sa issue na ito.
08:34Pinalalabas na,
08:35bakit isang foreign entity ang naglalabas ang warrant for a Filipino
08:38and a sitting senator at that?
08:40Sa iyong posisyon na yan,
08:44ayun din ang hinarap ng dating Pangulong Duterte
08:47doon sa International Criminal Court.
08:50Hindi po binigyan ng lakas
08:56or hindi kumumporme ang International Criminal Court
09:00na wala silang jurisdiksyon.
09:02Dahilan po ang mga nangyari
09:04na mga alleged killings
09:08ng mga 6,000
09:09sangayon sa
09:10kay Duterte Administrator,
09:136,000
09:14ang namatay.
09:15Yan po ay
09:17hindi dapat litisin
09:20sabi ng mga Duterte group
09:22hindi dapat litisin
09:23sa Hague
09:25sa International Criminal Court.
09:27Ngunit ito pong
09:28question na ito
09:29ay napagpasehan na
09:31ng International Criminal Court.
09:33Pangalawa,
09:35humingi po ng TRO
09:37ang
09:38Pangulong Duterte
09:40upang pigilin
09:42o ibalik
09:43ang ating dating Pangulo
09:45at dito harapin ang kaso
09:47dito sa
09:49ating bansa.
09:51Ang sabi ng
09:52Husgado,
09:53hindi,
09:53hindi nagbigay
09:54ng TRO.
09:56Kaya patuloy
09:57na nandun
09:58ang
09:58Pangulong Duterte
10:00sa
10:01sa Hague.
10:02Bakit po?
10:03Dahilan po tayo po
10:04ay
10:05nagpumirma
10:06doon sa sinasabi
10:08nating
10:08Rome Statute.
10:10Kung saan
10:11umayag ang ating bansa
10:13na sa mga
10:14crimes against humanity
10:16ay pwedeng litisin
10:17sa International Criminal Court.
10:20Of course,
10:20sinasabi nga nga
10:22ng nila
10:22ng grupo
10:23ni Duterte
10:25understandably
10:26eh wala na po
10:27nag-withdraw na kami
10:28dyan
10:29nag-withdraw ng ating bansa.
10:30Ngunit
10:31sang-ayon sa reglamento
10:32ng ICC
10:33na ating
10:34pinirmahan
10:35yung mga
10:36pangyayari po
10:37during the time
10:38na tayo po
10:39ay
10:39miyembro
10:40ng
10:42Rome Statute.
10:43Yan po
10:44may kapangyarihan
10:46ang
10:49ICC.
10:50Sa katunayan po,
10:51ako po
10:52ang nagdala
10:53ng kwestiyon
10:54sa Supreme Court
10:55nung ako
10:55yung senador pa.
10:56Sinasabi po
10:57bali
10:58at walang visa
10:59ang ating
11:00withdrawal
11:00dahil sa nag-withdraw tayo
11:02wala namang consent
11:03ng Senado
11:04nung pumasok
11:05ang pamahalaan
11:06sa Rome Statute
11:08kailangan
11:09at binigyan
11:10ng Senado
11:11ang kanilang
11:12concept
11:13sa
11:15ratification.
11:17Ngunit
11:18pag-withdraw
11:19eh
11:20ang executive
11:21na lang
11:21ang nag-withdraw.
11:22Kaya sa akin
11:23may question
11:24yun
11:24at binigyan
11:24ako sa
11:25Court
11:25Suprema.
11:26At ko
11:26sabihin
11:26na
11:27Court
11:27Suprema
11:27hindi,
11:28balik
11:28at
11:28so ako
11:29tinataggap
11:30ko
11:30bilang
11:31abogado
11:31na
11:32ganun
11:32ang
11:33pagpapasyan
11:33ng
11:34sukukot.
11:34Hindi
11:35ako
11:35naniwala.
11:37Yes.
11:38Senator,
11:39lipat tayo
11:39sa impeachment
11:40ni Vice President
11:41Sara.
11:42The lower
11:43house
11:43voted.
11:44257
11:45of them
11:45said yes,
11:46an impeachment
11:47trial should
11:48proceed.
11:48Pero may mga
11:49senador po
11:50openly tutol
11:50dito.
11:51Si Senator
11:51Robin
11:52Panilla
11:52nga sinabi
11:52niya
11:53harangin
11:53niya ito.
11:54Please tell us
11:55ano ba
11:55ang dapat
11:56at pwedeng
11:56gawin
11:56ng Senado
11:57kapag
11:57ito
11:58ay na-transmit
11:59na ng
11:59Kongreso?
11:59Ano ba
12:00yung mga
12:00options
12:01sila?
12:01Is it
12:02even an
12:02option
12:02for them
12:03not to
12:04proceed
12:04to trial
12:05or
12:05dismiss
12:06it
12:06outright?
12:07Walang
12:08option
12:09po
12:09ang Senado
12:10kung hindi
12:11umpisahan
12:12ang pag-relites
12:13ng kaso.
12:14Nakalagay sa
12:15ating
12:15saligang
12:16batas
12:16forthwith
12:17ang kaso
12:18dapat
12:19i-relitesin.
12:21Wala
12:22pong
12:22kapangyarihang
12:23i-dismiss
12:25ang kaso.
12:27Wala
12:27po sa
12:28ating
12:28saligang
12:28batas
12:29na
12:29pwedeng
12:30i-dismiss
12:31noong
12:32noong
12:35Senado
12:35as an
12:36impeachment
12:37court
12:37yung
12:37impeachment
12:38complaint.
12:39Dalawang
12:39beses
12:40ako
12:40binang
12:41impeachment
12:42chance
12:42at
12:43hindi
12:43po
12:43dapat
12:44pansinin
12:45ng
12:49senator
12:50judges.
12:51Sa katunayan
12:52nag-rule
12:53na po
12:53ang
12:54Supreme
12:54Court
12:54na
12:55dapat
12:55litisin
12:56at
12:57dapat
12:57mag-trial
12:58dahil
12:58yan po
12:59ang utos
13:00ng ating
13:01saligang
13:01batas.
13:02Senator
13:03Drilon,
13:03sa new
13:04majority
13:05naman po,
13:05marami sa
13:06kanila
13:06dawit
13:07sa flood
13:07control,
13:08yung iba
13:08naman,
13:09they're in
13:09some sort
13:10of trouble
13:10with the
13:11current
13:11administration.
13:12The
13:12Villars,
13:12for example,
13:13are being
13:13called out
13:14sa kanilang
13:14mga
13:14negosyo.
13:15Sina
13:15Senador
13:16Escudero,
13:16Villanueva,
13:17Estrada
13:17are being
13:18implicated
13:18in the
13:18flood
13:19control
13:19scandal.
13:20Si
13:20Senator
13:20Ligardo
13:21naman
13:21is
13:21seen
13:21to be
13:22protecting
13:22her
13:22son,
13:23who
13:23has
13:24openly
13:24moved
13:24to
13:25the
13:25Duterte
13:25side.
13:26Ang
13:26iba
13:27naman po,
13:28they're
13:28openly
13:28aligned
13:29with
13:29the
13:29Dutertes.
13:30May
13:30mga
13:30komento
13:31po
13:31that
13:31this
13:31alliance
13:32of
13:32the
13:32majority
13:32is
13:33about
13:33escaping
13:34accountability.
13:35Your
13:35thoughts,
13:35Senator?
13:37Alam mo
13:37kaya tayo
13:38nagkakagulo
13:39sa ating
13:39bansa?
13:40Dahilan
13:41po
13:41sa
13:41impunity,
13:43ang
13:43tawag
13:43niyan
13:44impunity
13:44o yung
13:45feeling
13:46na ikaw
13:46ay hindi
13:47sa
13:47ilalim
13:48ng
13:48batas.
13:49Sa akin,
13:50hindi
13:51ko
13:54siyang
13:54nagtulak
13:55sa
13:55aking
13:56mga
13:56kasamaan
13:56na
13:57bumoto
13:59sa
14:01impeachment.
14:03Hindi po.
14:05Ngunit
14:05sa akin
14:06dapat
14:07gampanan
14:08nila
14:09ang
14:09kanilang
14:09tungkulin
14:10bilang
14:11mga
14:11steritor
14:11judge
14:12at
14:12sa
14:13isang
14:13impeachment
14:14trial,
14:14tingnan
14:15kung
14:15ano
14:15yung
14:15ebedensyang
14:18iaharap
14:19ng
14:19Kamara
14:20na
14:20representante,
14:21ano
14:21ba
14:21ang
14:21ebedensya
14:22nila
14:22at
14:23base
14:23dun
14:23sa
14:24ebedensya
14:24nila
14:24at
14:25sa
14:25kanilang
14:26konsyensya
14:26ay
14:26dapat
14:27po
14:27sila
14:27ay
14:28mag-decide.
14:29Huwag
14:29po
14:30yung
14:30mga
14:30nangyayari
14:31na
14:31noon
14:31na
14:32sinasabing
14:32may
14:33kaso
14:34si
14:35Chise
14:36Scudero,
14:37si
14:39Joe
14:40Villanova,
14:41Gigo
14:42Iskada.
14:43Ayan
14:43po
14:43ang
14:43aking
14:44paniwala.
14:45Siguro
14:45naman
14:45ito
14:45mga
14:47senador
14:48na
14:48ito
14:48alam
14:48nila
14:48ang
14:49tungkulin
14:49nila
14:49sa
14:50taong
14:50bayan
14:50at
14:51ang
14:52tungkulin.
14:53Hindi lang
14:53mga
14:54senator
14:54judges
14:55kung
14:55pagdating
14:56ng
14:57impeachment
14:57court,
14:58tagampanan
14:59ang
14:59kanilang
14:59tungkulin.
15:00Kaya
15:01ipagtabi
15:02muna
15:02natin
15:03yung
15:03mga
15:03kaso.
15:04Nandiyan
15:04na
15:04ang
15:05mga
15:05kaso
15:21nito
15:22this
15:22and
15:22what
15:22should
15:22the
15:22public
15:23be
15:23thinking
15:24or
15:24should
15:24be
15:24looking
15:24at
15:25with
15:25the
15:25Senate
15:26under
15:26the
15:26present
15:27circumstances.
15:28Alam
15:29nyo po
15:29sinabi
15:29nyo
15:29apat
15:30na
15:30pangulo
15:31ng
15:31senador.
15:32Iyon
15:33po
15:33ay
15:34dahilan
15:34sa
15:34wala
15:35tayong
15:35matibay
15:36na
15:37political
15:37party
15:38system.
15:39Alam
15:39po
15:39ako
15:40sa
15:40bilang
15:51pangulo
15:52system.
15:52Sa Senado
15:53po
15:53dalawang
15:54apat
15:54ang
15:55partidong
15:56political.
15:58Bawat
15:58senador
15:59po
15:59ay
15:59sa
16:00political
16:01party.
16:02Hindi
16:02kagaya
16:03po
16:03sa
16:03ibang
16:03juristik
16:04kaya
16:04sa
16:04Amerika
16:05meron
16:06ng
16:06Democrat
16:07meron
16:07Republican.
16:08Ang
16:08party
16:09whip
16:09ang
16:10nagsasabi
16:11kung saan
16:12buboto
16:13ang
16:13partido
16:14political.
16:15Di
16:15po
16:15sa
16:15atin
16:16walang
16:16ganun.
16:17Kaya
16:17ang
16:17sagot
16:17ko
16:18sa
16:18tanong
16:18nyo
16:18dapat
16:19i-reforma
16:20natin
16:21yung
16:21ating
16:22political
16:22party
16:22system
16:23para
16:23magkaroon
16:24ng
16:24maayos
16:25na
16:25solusyon
16:26at
16:28kung
16:28anong
16:29posisyon
16:29ang
16:30gagampanan
16:31ng isang
16:31senador.
16:33Sen.
16:33Drilon,
16:34maraming
16:34maraming
16:35salamat
16:35po
16:35sa
16:35pagbabahagi
16:36ng
16:36inyong
16:36mga
16:37opinion
16:37at
16:37saluobin
16:38sa
16:38amin
16:38ngayong
16:38umaga.
16:39Thank you,
16:39sir.
16:40Thank you
16:40very much.
16:41Salamat
16:41po.
16:42Ang mga
16:42issue
16:42pinag-uusapan,
16:43lilinawin
16:44at hihimayin
16:45natin yan
16:45on record
16:46sa unang
16:47hirin.
16:47sa
16:47para
16:47itse
16:48how
16:49yung
16:49ark
16:49시
16:49o
16:49You
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