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03:07In 1980, I'm a police officer for the city of Palos Verdes Estates.
03:12Palos Verdes Estates is a little suburb south of Los Angeles, beautiful cliffs, mansions, high-income folks live there.
03:21Most houses there go well into the multi-millions, even back in the 70s.
03:26As far as murders in Palos Verdes Estates, they were rare, if ever.
03:31At the time, I was 21 years of age, I had been actually on my own for only a month
03:38or two in patrol.
03:39So when I responded to this scene, I realized that we actually had a potential homicide, I definitely started shaking.
03:50There was a female found dead on the beach at Palos Verdes Estates on Malaga Cove.
03:55And she apparently had been sexually assaulted, and she had been beaten about the head.
04:03A surfer had found her purse, which had her identification in it.
04:06We were able to learn right away that she was Teresa Boudreau from Wilmington, just 12 miles away.
04:13And she was only 20 years old.
04:17We tried to check for signs of life, and I remember I had initially tried.
04:23The body was warm to the touch, but I could not tell if I was getting a pulse or if
04:28I was feeling my own pulse.
04:30I think part of that was nerves.
04:33I could see that the young lady was completely nude, except for a pair of knee-high socks.
04:38She appeared to be posed in some position where her feet were facing the ocean.
04:44She had a large amount of blood covering her face.
04:48Her hair was matted down in the blood, so it was difficult to see her face completely without moving the
04:53hair.
04:53She had what appeared to be a laceration on her forehead, as well as some bruising and fresh injuries on
04:59her abdomen.
05:04Ultimately, the beach is a crime scene.
05:08The tide was coming in so quickly, we had to pick her up physically and move her away.
05:14As we did this, my partner was trying to support her head.
05:18As we moved up the beach, my partner told me,
05:21Oh no, my hand just disappeared in her head.
05:26She's got a large wound to the back of her head.
05:30We knew that this was not an accident.
05:35Ms. Boudreau was my first homicide victim.
05:38It's the ultimate crime, the taking of another human life, and the last thing you want to do is mess
05:43that up.
05:47The Palisades Estates Police Department is a smaller agency.
05:51The sheer magnitude of this crime mandated that we would reach out to an agency that could adequately handle a
05:57murder investigation.
05:58In the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department, they were known to be the best.
06:03When the Los Angeles Sheriff's Homicide Unit showed up, I was taking note of everything that they did.
06:09Any prosecutor will tell you, our job isn't just to convict people.
06:15It's also to make sure that the procedure that you go through to investigate a case is done correctly.
06:23You're left having to turn to surveillance cameras or witnesses or scientific evidence.
06:31And in 1980, you didn't have anywhere near as much of or as many of those things as you do
06:37now.
06:42The victim had no clothing recovered anywhere in the scene.
06:45We found a bottle of alcohol and a couple glasses.
06:49One of them still had, up here, some alcohol in it, near where this purse had been apparently dumped.
06:55That would lead me to believe at that time that there was obviously someone else there that was drinking with
07:01the victim prior to the murder.
07:03We also saw there were tire tracks.
07:07They believed firmly that this was tire tracks from the suspect's vehicle, but the tire was somewhat balding.
07:14The tread depth was not deep enough, so they couldn't cast the tracks.
07:23The L.A. County Sheriff's Homicide Detectives immediately hit the ground running trying to contact family members, people closest to
07:30your victim,
07:32and find out anything that could lead you to a potential suspect that you could start following those leads.
07:38And they determined that she was, in fact, married to a gentleman named Ronnie Femont.
07:48When I met Teresa, she was maybe 18, 19.
07:52I was about 20.
07:54Me and my friend were on the east side of Wilmington, just, you know, hanging out or whatever.
07:58I met her, and one of the girls brought Teresa, and when I saw her, I just, wow, she was
08:06very independent, very strong-willed.
08:11I don't know what she saw in me.
08:16Me and my friends, we started doing drugs, you know, dabbling in it.
08:22But when me and Terry got together, she gave me an ultimatum.
08:27Say, buddy, you gotta stop.
08:30It was a no-brainer.
08:33Two and a half years worked together.
08:35And then I thought, this is a girl I want to marry.
08:39I want her, I want her to have a family, I want to settle down.
08:42So I did.
08:44I married her.
08:45Then she got pregnant shortly after.
08:47And they said, it's going to be a girl.
08:50So I was elated.
08:53The manner in which Teresa was killed was extremely upsetting.
08:59It was a violent death with her head bashed in and likely sexually assaulted.
09:06And to then find out that she was several months pregnant,
09:10and there was yet another life that was also derailed and ended, is incredibly sad.
09:19And on top of that tragedy, she actually already was a mom.
09:24She had a four-year-old daughter named Linda.
09:31March 4th, 1980, was one of the worst days of my life.
09:38My grandmother told me my mother drowned at the beach.
09:49And that she was going to go to heaven with the angels.
09:54But she wasn't going to come back.
09:59I became too much to handle.
10:03I didn't want to be with my, my aunt.
10:07I didn't want to be with my grandmother.
10:09I didn't want to be with my dad.
10:11I just wanted my mom.
10:16And I couldn't understand why she couldn't come back.
10:19I felt like the only person that ever loved and protected me was gone.
10:25And now there was nobody left to love me.
10:36When I first met Linda, she was probably two years old.
10:40She was still baby talk, you know.
10:42She wasn't too vocal.
10:45Cute as a bug.
10:46You know, she really was.
10:48Being that she wasn't mine, it didn't bother me.
10:51It didn't bother me one bit.
10:53We used to play cafe.
10:54She would come and take my order.
10:56And then go to the kitchen and act like she made me food.
11:00She was a good kid.
11:02I just used to love it because I used to make the menu with Ronnie.
11:06And then I used to take it to my mom.
11:08And she was like, how many do you want, ma'am?
11:10And I'll be like, two, please.
11:12And she'll just be making my little grilled cheese by candlelight.
11:16I don't know why.
11:17I don't know why it was candlelight, but yeah.
11:30Ronnie married this woman, allegedly loved her,
11:32was raising her daughter as his own.
11:35But that doesn't exclude him from being a suspect.
11:39He could have snapped, had a bad moment, bad week.
11:42Who knows?
11:44Ronnie was one of the first people that the sheriff's homicide detective spoke to.
11:52The sheriffs, they interrogated me.
11:55And I answered everything.
11:58On March 3rd, I was attending Harbor College.
12:01Not taking anything special.
12:02I was doing art because I was real good with art.
12:05I came home and said to my wife, come on, let's go to my friends.
12:08Let's go to George's house.
12:10We used to hang out in the garage, you know, drink and smoke.
12:14We went.
12:16She didn't participate.
12:18She was pregnant.
12:19She didn't want to stand up all night in the garage.
12:21So I understand.
12:23She wanted to go home.
12:27We went home.
12:28I told her, I'm going to go back.
12:30She goes, no, I don't want you to go back.
12:31You can't go back.
12:32I go, I'm going to go back.
12:34No, you better not go.
12:35I go, Terry, I'm going back.
12:38That's when I went out the door.
12:42I went this way toward my friend's house.
12:45I heard the door slam.
12:47And I turned back.
12:48She was going out toward the alley.
12:50We had a gate in the alley that would take you to the other street.
12:54That's where her sister lived, right down the block.
12:56So I go, she's mad.
12:58She'll go to her sister's and complain and talk shit about me.
13:02She'll be okay.
13:04But then I never seen her again.
13:13How many times does a wife disappear and the husband says, you know,
13:19she left, I don't know what happened to her.
13:23And nine times out of ten, that's bullshit.
13:26It's going to be the husband.
13:28They asked to take my shirt off.
13:30They're looking for scratches or, you know, defensive wounds.
13:33And I had nothing.
13:35So they kept asking me, you didn't do it, did you?
13:37I don't know why I didn't do it.
13:38When they interviewed Ronnie, he was concerned.
13:41He was nervous.
13:42He was nervous when your wife is found murdered.
13:48Either you're going to be devastated, in shock, etc.
13:52Or you're going to be terrified.
13:54They're going to figure out you're the one who did it.
13:58After I left the sheriff's, I went back to my house.
14:01And there's cop cars stationed around the block.
14:03They're looking at my house.
14:05Very quickly, he became concerned that he was the suspect.
14:11And he was.
14:14I called my uncle, Henry Salcido, criminal lawyer.
14:17And my uncle just told me, don't talk to him.
14:20Avoid him.
14:22So that's all I did.
14:30My father was absent.
14:31So when my mom got married to Ronnie,
14:33and I found out I was going to have a sibling,
14:36I immediately thought we were going to have
14:37a full and complete family now with Ronnie,
14:40the new baby, my mom, and I.
14:43So I was super excited.
14:45So excited.
14:48But when everything happened with my mother,
14:50I did not stay with Ronnie.
14:52My dad's family came and got me right away.
14:56I really missed her when they took her.
14:58It destroyed me.
15:08During the course of the autopsy,
15:11essentially a rape kit was taken.
15:13But a rape kit back in 1980 is nothing like it is today.
15:18So there were clippings taken from her fingernails.
15:21Because it appeared that there was material
15:24underneath her fingernails.
15:26And they could potentially compare that to blood type.
15:30There was also swabs that were taken,
15:33which were not testing for DNA,
15:35but could test for the presence of sperm.
15:41They brought her to the mortuary.
15:42I went back there and asked to see her,
15:46because I had to make arrangements.
15:49They pulled back the thing.
15:51They only got the sheet like halfway,
15:53and I already just, my knees buckled.
15:55I just couldn't believe what I saw.
15:59As far as her features, there was none.
16:01It was just total darkness, a big hole for a face.
16:05And right away, I told the people,
16:07I want this casket closed.
16:09And I want the baby swaddled and put in her arms.
16:12So they're together for eternity.
16:24The investigators spoke with a lot of friends,
16:29a lot of family,
16:30and that's really all they had to go on.
16:34They learned that the last person to see Teresa
16:37was her sister.
16:39She gets to her sister's house.
16:41Her sister wanted her to stay there,
16:44and she didn't.
16:48Teresa Boudreau left her sister's house in the middle of the night
16:50and started walking down the street.
16:52There was a cousin who remembers that
16:55that day of, before she was found dead,
16:58she wanted to go out to the beach.
17:05Neither Teresa nor Ronnie had a car.
17:08It wouldn't be unreasonable
17:10that she would hitchhike to go get to the beach.
17:16So they were really at the mercy of anybody seeing anything,
17:19and it happened at night,
17:21and she was discovered early morning,
17:23and so there were no witnesses that ever came forward.
17:26There wasn't a whole lot of investigative tools
17:30that could be used to figure out who her killer was.
17:35They were looking at Ronnie,
17:37Teresa Boudreau's husband,
17:38as a potential suspect.
17:41After a thorough investigation,
17:42they were able to determine that Ronnie had an alibi.
17:46Ronnie had been in a friend's garage
17:48with several eyewitnesses
17:50on the night that his wife had been murdered,
17:51and that basically cleared him
17:54from the murder of his wife.
17:57And even though the police and investigators
17:59might exclude Ronnie,
18:01you can't unring that bell
18:03with family members and loved ones,
18:04that thought and belief
18:06that he was responsible for their daughter,
18:09their mother, their sister's death.
18:14When I was about eight or nine years old,
18:18my cousin and I were going through
18:21her mother's boxes or her drawers,
18:24and we found the autopsy of my mother.
18:30And I'm like, what?
18:32They said she drowned,
18:33and I'm still, you know,
18:35in that mode where they said she drowned.
18:38And I'm like, all this happened to her?
18:42Everyone in her family was saying,
18:46Ronnie's the one that killed my mother.
18:48I believed it right away
18:50because they used to fight a lot.
18:53And I was there to see all of that.
18:55I was right there watching every single day.
19:00They made their choice
19:01that I wasn't a suspect.
19:03Sheriff's did.
19:04But they had nobody else.
19:06So everybody thought I did it.
19:10Couldn't explain it.
19:11Tell me the times I got shot at
19:13because people thought I did it.
19:15Whether it be her family or friends,
19:16I don't know.
19:18Nobody ever shot at me before
19:19until after her death.
19:21I was so traumatized.
19:22I didn't want to live.
19:27If your wife disappears
19:28in the middle of an argument
19:29and we don't have any evidence
19:35pointing to somebody else who did it
19:37and what you have is
19:40an alibi by people
19:41that you are close to,
19:43either that's a legitimate alibi
19:46or it's not.
19:48But you have no other suspects.
19:50We didn't have an eyewitness.
19:52We didn't really have any evidence
19:54at the time that could be used.
19:57There wasn't anything else
19:58they could do.
19:59Ultimately,
20:00the Teresa Boudreau murder
20:02was never solved.
20:04It was put on the backbench
20:06as a cold case
20:07for decades.
20:18When I was little,
20:19I used to cry for my mom
20:21and I would ask questions
20:22over the years.
20:23There was just so many questions
20:24I had that no one
20:26was willing to answer.
20:27No one wanted to talk about her.
20:29No one wanted to talk
20:30about what happened.
20:34No one told me anything.
20:36They would tell me to be quiet.
20:39She's not going to come back.
20:41I kind of got used to
20:43not having any parents.
20:45The void from my mother
20:47has never been filled.
20:49I don't think it will ever be filled.
20:52I went through years
20:53of people pointing
20:54and avoiding me
20:56or talking behind my back.
20:57I didn't really deal with it.
20:59I didn't think about my daughter.
21:00I didn't think about Terry.
21:02I'd work just to get high
21:03so I'd have to deal
21:04with all the pressure
21:06of people still walking around
21:07telling me,
21:07hey, that's him.
21:08That's him.
21:09He killed his wife.
21:12As I got older,
21:13I used to see him
21:14sometimes walking around.
21:17I did not want to talk to Ronnie.
21:19I didn't know what to feel,
21:20you know.
21:21I was like,
21:22did he really?
21:24Could he have really?
21:26You know,
21:26I started questioning people
21:28because they were the ones
21:28telling me, you know.
21:30I seen them fighting a lot,
21:32but could he really kill her?
21:55When I got the case,
21:56the cultural background,
21:58there was a connection there.
22:03In the 80s,
22:04culture in Wilmington
22:05was very much the same
22:06as culture in East L.A.
22:07The area I grew up in,
22:09it was predominantly Hispanic,
22:12lowrider culture,
22:13gangs,
22:15crime,
22:16seeing sometimes
22:17how my parents were afraid.
22:19They were afraid
22:19to call the police.
22:221980, I'm 13 years old.
22:24I'm in the 8th grade.
22:25If you would have told me
22:26that I was going to get involved
22:27in a homicide investigation
22:29that happened in
22:30Pauls Verde's Estates,
22:31which was a world away
22:32from East L.A.,
22:34I would have told you
22:34you were nuts.
22:38I never was a kid
22:40who said,
22:41I want to be a cop.
22:43That was the last thing
22:44I thought I'd ever be.
22:47The passion really came
22:49once I started the job
22:51and started to notice
22:53the difference
22:54that you could make.
22:58Ralph's was more
22:59of a subdued,
23:00subtle kind of approach.
23:02He challenged himself
23:03and made a name for himself.
23:06Ralph never wanted to promote.
23:08He wanted to be
23:08a damn good detective.
23:12People always ask me,
23:13what is this job like
23:15working homicide?
23:17It's like juggling balls
23:18in the ocean.
23:19You don't want to drown,
23:20but you don't want
23:21to drop the ball.
23:23When you look at a cold case,
23:25there are so many
23:27different things
23:28that you have to
23:30overcome.
23:32Investigations changed
23:33after 10, 15, 20 years.
23:35Different techniques evolve.
23:37Different thought processes evolved.
23:42Ultimately,
23:43you have to do
23:44a little gumshoe detective work,
23:45right?
23:45You've got to go out
23:46and find people,
23:47find witnesses.
23:48But technology
23:50is a tremendous,
23:51tremendous asset
23:52for us now
23:53on these unsolved cases.
23:54In this case,
23:56in 1980,
23:58that was years
23:59before DNA.
24:01There's different
24:02investigative avenues
24:04that can be explored.
24:05Now we can go back
24:07and we can take
24:08that evidence
24:08and we can develop
24:09DNA profiles.
24:12There were several items
24:14of evidence
24:15that had been kept
24:16from the scene.
24:18We knew that there
24:20were enough there
24:21that there were things
24:22we could potentially test.
24:25The sheriff's department
24:27had a criminalist
24:28who was excellent.
24:29As the criminalist
24:30is working
24:31on this evidence
24:32and trying to determine
24:33if there's enough
24:34genetic material,
24:36what we're realizing
24:37is she has very little
24:39to work with.
24:40The fingernails
24:41turned out
24:42not to be as helpful
24:43as we were hoping
24:44they would be.
24:45The other evidence
24:46that was at the scene
24:47also was not as helpful.
24:49There were no prints
24:49or DNA
24:50on the bottle of alcohol.
24:52Only Teresa's fingerprint
24:53was on the cup.
24:54And contrary to what
24:56you see on CSI,
24:58the TV shows,
24:59you know,
25:00unfortunately people
25:01don't sprinkle their DNA
25:03everywhere at whatever
25:04crime scene they go to.
25:06So we had to pivot.
25:07We had to think
25:08of a different way
25:08to try to identify
25:10her killer.
25:10And that's when we turned
25:11to the coroner's evidence.
25:17The coroner's office
25:19was able to obtain
25:21the DNA found
25:22on the victim.
25:23The criminalist
25:25took the pubic hair combings
25:28and basically washed them.
25:30And from that washing,
25:33she's able to put it
25:34into a centrifuge
25:35that spins
25:36and essentially
25:38churns out a pellet.
25:40And from that pellet,
25:42she's able to look
25:43at it microscopically
25:44and determine
25:45if there's any
25:46genetic material
25:47in the pellet.
25:48And she found
25:49one sperm head.
25:52And so that's
25:53what she was able
25:54to end up testing
25:55for DNA.
25:57The goal there
25:58is that they would
25:59be able to develop
26:00an actual DNA profile
26:01because sometimes
26:02you can have
26:02bodily fluid,
26:03but that doesn't mean
26:05you're going to have
26:05enough to come up
26:06with a complete DNA profile.
26:07Sometimes you have
26:08a partial profile.
26:09Sometimes you get nothing.
26:10If there's not
26:11sufficient evidence there,
26:13it's a dead end.
26:24Detective Ralph Hernandez
26:26got my case
26:27and gave me a call.
26:30I felt at ease
26:32that he understood me.
26:34He knew my style of life,
26:36what I've been through.
26:37You know,
26:38the addiction,
26:39the gangs,
26:39everything.
26:40It could be for me,
26:41I said,
26:41hey,
26:42you're familiar
26:43with that stuff.
26:44Being a cop,
26:45you're more familiar.
26:46You probably see it
26:47more than I see it.
26:48He treated me
26:49just like he would
26:50anybody.
26:52It wasn't because
26:52I was Chicano.
26:53He treated me
26:54because I was human.
26:56So I talked to him
26:57and I let him know
26:59I have some more information.
27:05Ronnie tells us
27:06the story about
27:06how this female acquaintance
27:09from the neighborhood
27:10approached him
27:11one evening
27:11and said,
27:12hey,
27:12I feel bad.
27:13I held on to this
27:14for a few years.
27:15I want you to know
27:16about this.
27:18In the late 90s,
27:19I was still spiraling
27:20out of control
27:21and I was in a bar.
27:23One of my friends
27:24walked in
27:25who I hadn't seen
27:26in quite a while.
27:28She came up to me,
27:30Ronnie,
27:31I know who killed
27:32your wife.
27:39People's lives
27:40continue on
27:41and they remember
27:41vivid details
27:42of what traumatically
27:45happened to them
27:45in the past.
27:46They realized,
27:48you know what,
27:48this has caught up to me
27:50and I need to tell somebody.
27:53When I met
27:54Detective Ralph Hernandez,
27:56I had been so overwhelmed
27:59for so long.
28:00I've been feeling
28:00so bad about this
28:02and I thought
28:03it was time
28:03I could handle
28:04some answers.
28:06She was,
28:07my homeboy's
28:08old lady.
28:09She'd been gone
28:09for so long
28:10I wondered
28:10what had happened
28:11to her.
28:11I didn't know
28:11because I didn't
28:12keep tapping her.
28:13She started crying.
28:15She was,
28:15I know who killed her.
28:18And then,
28:19I just like,
28:20wow.
28:22What do you mean?
28:23She said,
28:25I was abducted
28:26by two guys
28:28and sexually tortured.
28:31These guys
28:32picked her up
28:33and they told her,
28:34put some of this
28:34on your tongue.
28:36She said,
28:36immediately,
28:37when she put that
28:38liquid on her tongue,
28:39she went numb.
28:41She said she could hear
28:42and see
28:43but couldn't move.
28:45She got paralyzed.
28:47Tortured her,
28:48sexually abused her.
28:49And then,
28:50she told me that
28:51she heard him say,
28:53what are we going to do
28:54with her body?
28:56We go,
28:57we'll take her
28:57where we dump Terry.
29:03But she jumped out
29:04of the window
29:04of the car
29:05while it was moving.
29:06And the passerby
29:08stopped and helped
29:08and they took off.
29:12The person she mentioned,
29:13I knew him.
29:15Knew him well.
29:17Knew some of his characteristics.
29:19It fit.
29:23Now,
29:24it's secondhand information,
29:25right?
29:26This girl's told Ronnie,
29:27Ronnie's telling us,
29:28we need to find
29:29this girl.
29:31I had some addresses
29:33that were listed
29:33in the original reports
29:34of people who lived
29:35in the neighborhood.
29:36So,
29:38I knocked on a few doors.
29:39I find out that
29:41she's living out of state.
29:43I come up with
29:44a phone number
29:45and we start talking.
29:46And she was very,
29:48very cooperative
29:49and willing to meet with us,
29:50which was huge.
29:56We fly out
29:58to her.
30:00Ralph actually went to Texas
30:02to go talk to her.
30:03That right there,
30:04at that moment,
30:06let me know,
30:07oh, this guy's gonna do
30:08whatever it takes.
30:08And I felt really good
30:10about this.
30:11I definitely felt that
30:14after 33 years,
30:15I finally had somebody
30:16in my corner.
30:19We had just flown in
30:21and I get a phone call
30:22from the crime lab.
30:24And the crime lab's telling me,
30:25hey, we gotta hit and code us
30:26for your evidence,
30:28for DNA,
30:29from your scene.
30:31That was incredible.
30:33But it was a little confusing
30:36because it wasn't the person
30:38that we thought
30:39that we were being steered toward
30:41from the information
30:42we were going to get
30:43from our informant.
30:45It was a completely
30:46different person.
30:50Thanks to the criminalists,
30:51we now had a name
30:53that came back
30:54as a match
30:54to a man named
30:55Robert Inegas.
30:58Who was Robert Inegas?
30:59Where did he come from?
31:01What did he do?
31:01Where was he?
31:02Where was he 34 years ago?
31:12Robert Inegas.
31:13He was nowhere in the file.
31:15He was nobody
31:16who had been interviewed.
31:17He was no one
31:18whose name
31:19had even been mentioned.
31:20And there were a ton of names
31:21in those original reports
31:23and his was not one of them.
31:25But it was very exciting.
31:30So we get back
31:31from our out-of-state trip
31:32and our interview
31:33with the informant.
31:34Which turned out
31:35to be a dead end.
31:36We quickly begin
31:38to conduct
31:39a background investigation
31:40on Robert Inegas.
31:41And I also pulled
31:43crime reports
31:43from his previous arrests.
31:45And in 1981,
31:47Robert Inegas
31:48was arrested for rape.
31:52The victim in that case
31:54had been a hitchhiker
31:55that he picked up
31:57and he proceeded
31:58to rape her.
31:59That victim reports it.
32:01He gets arrested
32:03immediately after that rape.
32:04He was charged in court.
32:06He was held to answer
32:07on preliminary hearing.
32:08The victim actually
32:09came to testify.
32:10And sometime before the trial,
32:13it became difficult
32:14to find the victim
32:16and the case was dismissed.
32:17And he was let go.
32:20Then fast forward
32:21to 1982,
32:23he was arrested
32:25for another rape
32:26in which he was
32:27actually convicted
32:28and he went to prison.
32:30And that conviction
32:30is what actually
32:31brought his DNA
32:32into the CODIS database.
32:35Because the CODIS hit
32:36is only an investigative
32:38tool and lead,
32:40we're ethically required
32:41to go get what's called
32:42a confirmatory sample.
32:45We needed to try
32:46to get a DNA sample
32:47from him
32:47in order to confirm
32:49and run it
32:50against the evidence
32:51that was found
32:51from the coroner's kit.
32:53So our next step
32:54had to be locating
32:55Mr. Yeniguez.
32:58Detective Ralph Hernandez
32:59asked me if I knew
33:00who this Robert Yeniguez
33:02guy was.
33:04And I said, no.
33:05But I was very hopeful.
33:07The DNA always catches
33:09a bad guy.
33:10And now there was DNA.
33:12Now they just have
33:14to find the guy.
33:15Sex offenders
33:16are required to register
33:17on their birthday.
33:18With Mr. Yeniguez,
33:20his birthday was
33:21about four months away
33:22from when Detective Hernandez
33:23learned that he was
33:25a potential suspect.
33:26So the easiest place
33:28to find Mr. Yeniguez
33:30was going to be
33:31when he went to register.
33:42Yeniguez is at Harbor Station
33:44getting ready to register
33:45as a sex offender.
33:47At that point,
33:49I want to find out
33:51more about him.
33:52We want to confirm
33:53where he had lived,
33:54where he had been,
33:55who his family was,
33:56who his friends were,
33:57because maybe there is
33:58some connection to Teresa.
34:00Also, I want to obtain
34:02a sample of his DNA.
34:05And so I told him
34:07who we were,
34:07where we were from,
34:08and he was willing
34:09to talk to us.
34:10You went to prison 80,
34:11or was it...
34:12It was 80.
34:14Before you went to prison,
34:15where were you living?
34:20Hmm.
34:22I believe I was living
34:23in Warmington
34:25at my stepmom's house
34:29with my dad.
34:30I didn't know too many people
34:32from Warmington.
34:33I mean,
34:34I was a cruise around there,
34:36but I didn't really know
34:38anybody over there.
34:39I actually didn't really
34:41have a big game plan.
34:44My first thought
34:45was just be yourself.
34:47Talk to him,
34:47put him at ease,
34:48and it just kind of
34:51evolved from there.
34:53Did you ever used to
34:54go partying at the beach?
34:55No.
34:56Never?
34:56Never used to go out there?
34:58No.
34:58And you've never been
34:59to Malaga Cove,
35:01Pauls Verde's Estates?
35:05Ralph's approach
35:07was to be very
35:11non-confrontational.
35:12So he tries to get
35:15Eniguez to be comfortable,
35:17and then he tries
35:19to go through
35:20the information that he has
35:22and to see if he can
35:23lock him in
35:24to a certain story.
35:27Tell me about that case
35:28when you got arrested.
35:30took her to Redondo,
35:33and, you know,
35:34we had sex.
35:35Yeah, she refused,
35:37but then after that
35:39she gave in.
35:41And they charged you
35:42with rape?
35:43Yeah.
35:43Right.
35:43You got off
35:44because she didn't show up?
35:46Okay.
35:48Does Teresa ring a bell
35:49to you?
35:51No.
35:52No.
35:53Nothing at all.
35:54There were times
35:55that I could see it
35:56in his chest,
35:57kind of the heavy breathing.
35:59People described,
36:00they see people
36:01pounding their heart rate
36:02or their hearts
36:03beating through
36:04their shirt.
36:05You could see
36:06kind of the deep breaths,
36:07and he was obviously
36:08nervous.
36:11Let me show you
36:13some pictures.
36:14Okay.
36:18You know that girl
36:19right there?
36:20I remember her at all.
36:21No.
36:22No?
36:24This lady was found
36:26dead on the beach.
36:28You sure she's nobody
36:30that looks familiar to you?
36:31Teresa Boudreau.
36:34No.
36:34And this is 1980,
36:36March of 1980.
36:38No, not at all.
36:39The denials were so important
36:40because we had such
36:42powerful DNA evidence.
36:44If he came to us
36:45and said,
36:46hey, look,
36:46I dated Teresa
36:48behind her husband's back,
36:49I had sex with her
36:50that night.
36:51It would have
36:52complicated our case.
36:56That's why the denial
36:57was so much more
36:59powerful.
37:01Would there be
37:01any reason
37:02for your DNA
37:05to be
37:06at the scene?
37:11No, it shouldn't be.
37:14Shouldn't be?
37:15Yeah.
37:16We're here.
37:17We know you can help us
37:20because your DNA
37:22was at the scene.
37:24I don't know.
37:25I can't see how.
37:26I don't even know
37:27that girl.
37:28If you really want
37:29to have good rapport
37:30with your suspect,
37:31you got to give him
37:31something.
37:32And I had information
37:33for him and he needed
37:34to know that information
37:35and it might stimulate
37:38something for him
37:39to say something
37:39to help us
37:41get to the truth, right?
37:42Because, hey,
37:42what if he had
37:43a plausible explanation?
37:44What if he didn't
37:46do it, right?
37:47So 100%,
37:47you're not going
37:49to have any issues
37:50with your DNA there.
37:52And so then
37:53you'd be willing
37:54to give us
37:54a sample
37:56of your oral swabs?
37:57Okay.
37:58So I appreciate that.
38:00Okay.
38:01I came away
38:02from that interview
38:03with Iniguez
38:04firmly believing
38:05that we had our guy.
38:08But it was more
38:08important at that point
38:09to build a case
38:10and to know for sure,
38:11okay, this is our guy
38:12and then go out
38:13and arrest him.
38:15Getting a buccal swab
38:17of DNA from Mr. Yanegas
38:18allowed the sheriff's department
38:21to do confirmatory testing.
38:26He was, in fact,
38:27a match and the match
38:28was proven through
38:30a statistic
38:30which was one
38:32in 82.5 trillion.
38:34and there's only
38:367 billion people
38:37on the planet.
38:39So to be one
38:40in 80-something trillion
38:43is quite a significant match.
38:49In this case,
38:51it's very clear
38:52that he's your killer.
38:54So now it's a question
38:56of what can you do
38:57to make the case
38:57even better?
39:00The rape case
39:01in 1981
39:02was extremely important
39:04because Iniguez
39:05came upon a female
39:07who was in Wilmington
39:09at the bus stop
39:10and offered her a ride.
39:12We had the fact
39:13that Teresa
39:14was last seen
39:15in Wilmington
39:15and there are
39:16potential similarities
39:18in the M.O.
39:19And luckily,
39:19I was able to locate
39:21and interview the victim
39:22from the 1981 rape.
39:25When I met the guy,
39:27I wasn't hitchhiking,
39:28I was just walking.
39:28Right.
39:29He pulled up in his car
39:30and asked me
39:30if I wanted to ride
39:31and I said, yeah.
39:32The circumstances
39:33she's telling us
39:34is similar to what
39:35we believe happened
39:36to Teresa.
39:38How sure are you
39:39that this man
39:41forced you,
39:42raped you?
39:43Oh, 100%.
39:44I stopped resisting
39:45because instead of threatened,
39:46kill me.
39:51She was threatened.
39:52She gave in.
39:55Teresa was beaten
39:56and killed.
40:00I believe Teresa
40:01fought back
40:03and Iniguez
40:04followed through
40:04with his threat.
40:06So that was
40:07extremely powerful
40:09and just tied
40:10our case
40:12that much more together.
40:17Whenever I am
40:19looking at a cold case,
40:21I always want to sit down
40:23with the suspect
40:24if I can.
40:28I want to myself
40:30evaluate them.
40:31I want to see
40:32how they respond
40:33to my questioning.
40:34I want to see
40:35if they're going
40:36to end up
40:37making things worse.
40:38What are they
40:38going to admit to?
40:40Where are my issues
40:41going to be?
40:42It's the only chance
40:43that I will ever have
40:44to have a conversation
40:45with them.
40:46Once the case is filed,
40:48I can't talk to them.
40:51Robert Iniguez
40:52told Ralph Hernandez
40:53that he had never
40:55met the victim,
40:56that he had never
40:57had sex with her,
40:58that he had never
40:59been to Palace
41:01Ferry's Estates
41:02and Malaga Cove
41:03and that beach.
41:04The more adamant
41:05he was going to be
41:06in denying it,
41:08the better it was
41:09going to be
41:09for the case
41:10going forward
41:12because I could prove
41:13that that just
41:13wasn't true.
41:14John wanted to
41:16come with me
41:17to interview
41:18Robert Iniguez again.
41:20So we both went
41:21and we talked to him.
41:26Hi.
41:27I wanted to talk,
41:28I need to talk
41:29to Robert, please.
41:30Who are you?
41:31My name's Ralph.
41:32He knows who I am.
41:33This is John.
41:35That second interview
41:36was not ideal.
41:37Part of it was
41:38his wife and his daughter
41:41were there,
41:41his family's there.
41:42Come on in.
41:46You guys look like
41:47you're going to arrest him.
41:49Oh, God, no.
41:50We're going to leave here
41:51and I just was hoping
41:53for 10 minutes
41:54and maybe just a little
41:56bit of privacy
41:56if that's okay with you.
41:58He ain't got no
41:59nothing to hide from me.
42:00I don't have nothing
42:01to hide from you.
42:01Nothing.
42:02Oh.
42:02We tell each other
42:03everything.
42:05I wanted to give him
42:06the respect of
42:07being able to
42:08talk to him,
42:10you know,
42:11without other people here
42:12if that's what he wanted,
42:13but if this is how
42:14he's comfortable.
42:15It was highly unlikely
42:18that he would have told
42:19his wife,
42:21who was not with him
42:23at the time
42:24of this,
42:25of the murder,
42:27hey, by the way,
42:28you realize I raped
42:29and murdered people
42:30prior to our relationship.
42:32So we wanted to do it
42:34in private
42:35and no matter
42:36how much we suggested it,
42:39his position was,
42:40no, we have no secrets,
42:42et cetera,
42:43so we had to do
42:44the interview
42:44in front of her.
42:45Well, just hear me out, Robert.
42:46I had nothing to do
42:47with that case.
42:47No, but Robert,
42:48just hear me out.
42:49He doesn't want
42:49to admit
42:51all of this
42:52in front of them
42:53and really,
42:54when John began
42:55to press him
42:56in a little bit
42:56more detail
42:57about the incident,
42:58he starts to deny.
43:00He became very defensive.
43:02And I'm going to
43:02stay with that story.
43:03I do not know her.
43:05I've never seen her.
43:06I've never met her.
43:07John did, in fact,
43:08in the interview,
43:08accuse Iniguez
43:09of committing the murder.
43:11You've said
43:11you never met
43:12this girl at all.
43:13No.
43:13So what do you think
43:15of yours?
43:16What kind of DNA
43:17do you think we found?
43:22Probably my sperm.
43:25Yeah, so can you tell me
43:26how that could possibly
43:27be, Robert?
43:29It should be
43:31because I don't even know her.
43:33I never met her.
43:34I never seen her.
43:34Robert.
43:35I had nothing
43:36to do with that.
43:37We got your semen
43:38on the pubic hair
43:39of this dead woman.
43:41This dead woman
43:42was picked up
43:44near the same place
43:46where, within a year
43:47of that time,
43:48you picked up Lori.
43:52This woman
43:53had her head bashed.
43:55Pressing him
43:56just led to more denials,
43:59but John got him
44:00to admit that
44:01he wouldn't believe
44:02his own denials.
44:03So it kind of came
44:04back full circle.
44:05Would you agree
44:06that if your semen
44:06is inside of her,
44:07that means
44:08that you must
44:10have known her
44:11and had sex
44:12with her
44:13that night
44:15at the beach?
44:17Yeah, that would
44:18be logical.
44:21If you were sitting
44:22where I was sitting
44:23right now,
44:24would you believe
44:25what you're saying?
44:27You tell me.
44:28I believe.
44:29Well, ma'am,
44:30I'm asking you,
44:31if you were sitting
44:31where I'm sitting
44:32right now,
44:32would you believe
44:33that story?
44:33You tell me.
44:35No.
44:36I wouldn't believe
44:36that story.
44:37I don't think
44:3712 jurors
44:38are going to believe
44:38it either.
44:40He had a look
44:41on his face
44:42of resignation
44:46that he knew
44:47where it was going.
44:49I'll be goddamn
44:50if I'm going to go
44:51back to fucking prison
44:52for something I didn't.
44:53Okay, so listen,
44:54listen, your DNA.
44:55I know what you're
44:56saying.
44:56My DNA is on her.
44:58But I don't know.
44:59Are we done?
45:00Because it's starting
45:01to piss me off now.
45:01Yeah, I'm going to get
45:02a lawyer.
45:02We're going to get
45:03a lawyer.
45:04Yeah.
45:04Wait, listen.
45:05Are we finished?
45:06We're finished.
45:07Robert, listen to me.
45:09There's nothing
45:09to what I'm saying.
45:10Well, if you tell me
45:11that you want us
45:12to leave, we'll leave.
45:13Yeah.
45:14Ma'am, I'm not
45:14talking to you.
45:15I'm talking to him.
45:16I want you to leave.
45:16Okay.
45:18All right.
45:19That's your option.
45:21We were confident
45:22at that point
45:23we had enough.
45:24We had the DNA.
45:25We had Iniga's denials.
45:27We had some
45:27of his admissions.
45:29We got him.
45:41September of 2017,
45:43we finally make our move.
45:45We have a surveillance
45:47team follow Iniga's
45:49away from his home.
45:50We get a black and white
45:52to make a stop.
45:54And they place him
45:55under arrest for murder.
45:57He didn't say much to us,
45:59but it didn't matter
46:00at that point.
46:01We had quite a bit
46:02of evidence and quite
46:03a bit of information
46:03to present.
46:06I still remember
46:08walking out
46:08and calling Ronnie.
46:11The phone rings
46:12and I see that says
46:13Detective Ralph.
46:15Oh, shit.
46:17It's too early.
46:19I get nervous
46:20and my feet
46:22start tapping.
46:23I answer it.
46:26He goes,
46:26Ronnie,
46:27hey, Ralph,
46:27what's up?
46:28He goes,
46:29you're sitting down
46:29and right there
46:30my heart went boom.
46:31I tell him,
46:32we got him.
46:34We're charging him.
46:39I just cried,
46:40sat in my car
46:41and cried
46:41and cried
46:4245 minutes.
46:44It was a very emotional
46:45phone call for us.
46:49I get a phone call
46:51saying,
46:52in one hour
46:53we're going to do
46:53a press conference.
46:54They found the person
46:55that killed your mother
46:58and I just started crying
47:00and I couldn't believe it.
47:01They were like,
47:01we need you to be
47:02in downtown L.A.
47:03right now.
47:05I couldn't make it there
47:08but my stepdad
47:09was there,
47:09of course.
47:10He was there
47:11for everything.
47:16The press conference
47:17really was for Ronnie
47:19to be able to
47:20tell the story
47:21to the press
47:22and to let them know
47:23what he had been through.
47:24Detective.
47:28The day of the press conference,
47:30you could see me
47:31in the back,
47:31I'm sort of edgy.
47:33I was sweating
47:34and I was starting
47:35to look like
47:35Rolly Giuliani up there.
47:37At this point,
47:38we wanted to introduce
47:39Ronnie Femont
47:41who was married
47:42at that time
47:43to Tadisha Bordeaux.
47:51Here you go.
47:51Hello.
47:53It's been 37 years,
47:55longer than 37 years
47:56and I've been waiting
47:58a long time
47:59for this day.
48:00I want to thank
48:01my family
48:02for always believing
48:03in me,
48:04always being by my side
48:05and I want to thank
48:06these people here
48:08because without them,
48:09I wouldn't be here today.
48:11It's been a long time
48:12for what I've been through
48:14and the uncertainty
48:16of not knowing
48:16why or how,
48:18you know.
48:21And I'm just glad
48:22this day came.
48:24Thank you very much.
48:26Now everybody knows
48:27it wasn't me.
48:29They took the burden
48:30off me.
48:32Now people knew
48:33the truth.
48:37It was important
48:38for me,
48:39for Ronnie,
48:41to have that.
48:45Once they told me
48:46that it wasn't him
48:47and that this other guy
48:48did it and I was like,
48:49oh my goodness.
48:53We did try to
48:54build a relationship
48:57but, yeah,
48:59things don't always work out.
49:09On October 2nd, 2017,
49:12I filed the complaint
49:14against Robert Ionigis.
49:16The first count was murder
49:19and the second count
49:20was rape.
49:22Based on the circumstances
49:24and the law
49:25and the evidence
49:26at the time,
49:26we weren't able
49:27to file a charge
49:28for the baby.
49:32Before we could
49:33pick a jury
49:34and try the case,
49:36the defendant,
49:37through his attorney,
49:39indicated that he wanted
49:40to enter a plea agreement.
49:41He was willing to plead
49:43to second-degree murder,
49:45which carries a sentence
49:46of 15 to life,
49:47and admit that he had,
49:49in fact, killed Teresa.
49:52My feeling is that
49:54he probably did not want
49:56his wife and his stepdaughter
49:58to hear all of the details
50:01of the crime.
50:03So if you're in his position
50:05and you're going to get convicted
50:07either way,
50:08then you maybe choose an option
50:11where you can maintain
50:13your innocence,
50:15you know,
50:16in your private conversations
50:17with him.
50:20Iniguez was sentenced
50:21in October of 2019.
50:24Talking 37 and a half years,
50:2840 to the day
50:28he got convicted,
50:30and I lived
50:31with torment
50:33every day.
50:37had the defendant
50:38been convicted at trial,
50:39there would have been
50:40a mandatory sentence
50:41of life without parole
50:42as the minimum.
50:44With a plea
50:46and pleading to 15 to life,
50:49he will be eligible
50:50for parole.
50:51But because you never know
50:53what's going to happen
50:54with a jury,
50:55it's a risk.
50:58I figured at his age,
51:0115 to life,
51:03he'd get out.
51:04And I'd get to sleep
51:05at night knowing
51:06he's not going to be around
51:07or hurt anybody else.
51:09I was very relieved
51:11when it was all over with.
51:13It was very overwhelming
51:14for me.
51:15Now I can start healing.
51:26I made arrangements
51:27to have a flower shop
51:28close by Malaga Cove
51:30to make her a real nice
51:32wreath and a cross.
51:36I picked it up,
51:37everybody in the caravan
51:38all the way over there.
51:41We're there with the family
51:42and they're putting up
51:43this wreath
51:44and on the banner
51:45says it's over.
51:48It was a weird feeling
51:49to be there.
51:50I'd been there
51:51a couple of times.
51:52But now,
51:54we had Iniguez convicted.
51:55We had answers.
52:02Ralph Hernandez,
52:04he did me right.
52:05He did me justice.
52:06He gave me
52:07everything I needed
52:08to put this behind me.
52:10I can't thank him enough
52:12for the hard work he did.
52:15He's a Chicano done good.
52:17I go,
52:18that's you, Ralph.
52:19You should be proud
52:19of yourself.
52:22I'm very proud.
52:24It felt great
52:25to be able
52:26to get answers
52:26for the family.
52:29It was
52:30very satisfying
52:31because you realize
52:32that the fruit
52:32of your hard labor
52:33all those hours,
52:34all those years,
52:36you made a difference.
52:52All missing person
52:54cases come through
52:55homicide.
52:56If you're missing,
52:58the big question
52:59is why?
53:01Father of three,
53:02the six foot six inch
53:03tall Smith
53:04has disappeared.
53:05Gavin Smith
53:06was a Fox executive.
53:08He was larger than life.
53:10It was highly irregular
53:12that somebody like him
53:13would just vanish
53:15into thin air.
53:16There's some weird
53:17stuff going on here.
53:18He was in turmoil.
53:19Gavin had a pretty
53:21torrid affair.
53:22It's a mystery,
53:24but somebody out there
53:25knows something.
53:48Bill Hickory JC
53:48is a mystery,
53:48and one of those
53:48miracles
53:48and the Red
53:48and the Red
53:48and the Red
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