00:00Ravens lost a lot of players in free agency, Jeremy, this offseason.
00:05Yeah, they did.
00:06And, I mean, when we start looking at all the different guys,
00:09we're all going to have our opinions on which ones hurt the most,
00:12some of it's fan-favorite stuff.
00:13Like, you know, like, will they be fine without Pat Ricard?
00:16Yes, this offense doesn't use a fullback all that much.
00:19And, again, we love seeing Pat.
00:21And Pat said, too, I told Harbaugh wherever he coached, I'd go play for him.
00:26So there are guys that loved him on this team,
00:28even though, you know, we weren't big fans of him.
00:30And I don't think I'm saying anything out of terms, though, either.
00:32No.
00:33That being said, a lot of players go.
00:36I think Isaiah Likely, of all the players,
00:38in taking the punter out because Stout is the best punter in the league.
00:42Yeah, he is.
00:42But as I said this the other day to you guys, and I get what you're saying,
00:46and I know you're playing this up because you love those great legs on punters.
00:50Tell me the last time the Ravens have had a bad punter.
00:52I don't remember.
00:53That's why I'm not concerned about that.
00:55And, again, maybe I'm being naive just thinking, hey, you're going to go find somebody.
00:59But the last 20 years almost has been with John Harbaugh, who was a special teams guy.
01:04Fair enough.
01:05Fair enough.
01:06Again, who's the genius behind it, right?
01:09Was Harbaugh finding these guys, or was it something DaCosta looks for?
01:12Right.
01:13That being said, the one that kind of got me the most was Keaton Mitchell,
01:18which I know we're going to talk about later because I think he went to a perfect spot
01:21if he stays healthy, and I'll explain why.
01:24But, again, there were some pieces that I think you'd like to have back.
01:26This is the other part of why it doesn't make sense for the Ravens to do what they did.
01:30You have to be under the salary cap by, what was it, Wednesday?
01:34It has to be official and working stuff out.
01:36So they clearly want to get the Lamar deal done.
01:38Why would they go through all this with Max Crosby to wait to lose all these free agents?
01:41And people say, well, the Ravens are never active in free agency.
01:45No, really, they're not.
01:46But those were their own players.
01:48You're re-signing your own guys.
01:49Right.
01:50So this is something where you looked at it and saw how many guys you lost,
01:54and now you have a lot of holes to fill.
01:55The good news is you have a lot of picks, and you have a great GM that's good at drafting.
01:58So you're saying the draft is probably, when has the draft been this important?
02:03It's always important for the Ravens because they do it so well.
02:05But when is the last time, in your opinion, it's been this important?
02:08You need depth at tight end.
02:10You need your next tight end.
02:11You've got to draft your next tight end.
02:13Yeah, and they've had a ton of success there as well.
02:15And I wouldn't be surprised if they draft two tight ends, by the way.
02:18And getting Durham Smythe that they got yesterday, the blocking tight end in Declan Doyle's system coming in right away,
02:24that was an under-radar signing where people are going, okay, how many catches did he have?
02:29It's not about that.
02:30It's about all the other stuff that he's able to do.
02:33So, like, it's funny, though, because to look at, like, all the different players that you could have gone out
02:37and gotten in the situations that you were in,
02:39and I think the Ravens would have liked to have re-signed some of those guys and kept them.
02:44The only other time I can sit here and point at a draft and say it was so important is
02:48when you missed the previous year.
02:49Right.
02:50Because you can't have back-to-back years swinging and missing.
02:52And the Ravens have done, they've done really well in the middle rounds,
02:56but there have been a couple of times that they've played the game and traded back into the second round,
03:00and that first pick hasn't worked out, and then that kind of, Sergio Kendall, Cody from Oklahoma.
03:05You remember, like, some of these guys, was it Cody, the defensive tackle?
03:09Am I remembering his name right?
03:11I thought his name was Cody.
03:12Dan Cody.
03:13Dan Cody, yeah, from Oklahoma.
03:14Yeah.
03:14He had red flags coming out because of injuries, never amounted to nothing.
03:17So, I think when you miss in the draft, that's something you're looking for.
03:21But if you go back and look at the free agents they lost, look at the draft that most of
03:24those guys came out of.
03:25The Ravens drafted seven starters out of one draft class.
03:29Yeah.
03:29And nine players in the league.
03:31You talked about the tight end room and how important it is.
03:34EDC appeared last night with Ben and Cordell, and this is what he had to say about that room.
03:39And I think that, you know, we're trying to find probably another guy, maybe two more tight ends when it
03:43comes down to it.
03:45You know, in the past, as you guys have known, that we've used a fullback,
03:48and we're probably going to segue to probably more of a tight end look than a fullback, traditional fullback look.
03:55And so, I think they're great opportunities.
03:58I'm excited about it.
03:59We had a chance to spend some time with some guys at the Combine, and there are still some pretty
04:03good proven players also available in free agency.
04:06Number one, that's a fresh take with Ben and Cordell.
04:09Number one, I love the fact that they're getting rid of that fullback look.
04:13I've been complaining about that for years, and this has nothing to do with Pat Ricard.
04:17You get that guy in the backfield.
04:19Now, all of a sudden, now you can stack your defense.
04:21You have that guy moving out wide or away from the backfield and further away from him.
04:26Now, you stretch out the defense.
04:28Yeah.
04:28You know, you hear Vinny Serrato call him the move guy.
04:32Back in the day, he used to be the H-back.
04:34Have that guy moving around.
04:35Have the defense trying to figure out what you're going to do.
04:37Because you can have your blocking tight end as the move guy, or you can move with one of your
04:42regular tight ends and have a blocking or play action pass.
04:45I like this better than that traditional fullback.
04:49Man, get away from that stuff.
04:50I'm glad.
04:51I'm happy to hear that.
04:51Well, again, a lot of teams will take their tight end and turn them into that kind of H-back.
04:56It's kind of what Chris Cooley was doing a little bit with Washington, right?
04:58Like, you could line him up in the backfield if you want.
05:01You could end up throwing to him.
05:02You could have him in motion in different sets.
05:05I mean, Pat Ricard was kind of a Swiss Army knife.
05:07I mean, as much as we want to talk about how good of a fullback he was, you could line
05:11him up at tight end.
05:12You could line him up at defensive tackle.
05:13In fact, they've done that.
05:14But I think his primary position was to come in and pancake dudes.
05:18Yeah.
05:18Just open up those lanes.
05:19And I think in a system where you're spread out in a lot of three-wide receiver sets and you
05:25have an offensive guy that loves to move pieces around and get –
05:28if you think about Ben Johnson's offense, it puts guys in open space and opportunities to make plays.
05:33It gives you your best chance of success.
05:36Like, the same way Andy Reid calls those screen passes and everybody's like, how did they not see that coming?
05:41He does it all the time.
05:42He calls them at the right time, and they're so good at executing what seems to be a simple play
05:47and turning it into a big play.
05:49Ed Norris joins us from Sarasota.
05:51Good morning, Ed.
05:53What's happening, man?
05:54Nothing much, man.
05:55Hey, listen.
05:55All the free agents that the Baltimore Ravens have lost, in your opinion, is this draft one of the more
06:00important drafts for the Ravens in recent history?
06:03Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious.
06:04I mean, you lose like – what, you lose 10 guys?
06:06I mean, they've got to replace them somehow.
06:09I don't – you know, I heard your conversation.
06:11I don't – you know, I don't think they wanted to lose everybody, but they did.
06:16So I don't know what they're going to do here.
06:19That's why this whole thing is so funny to me when people are like, the Ravens did this intentionally.
06:23You mean they did all of this?
06:24They had to get the Crosby deal done and figure out what they had accordingly, and especially with Lamar's restructure.
06:30They needed all that.
06:31So why would the Ravens go through this and lose all their free agents?
06:33Well, see, Ed said they didn't want to lose everyone, and I agree with that.
06:36But, Ed, do you think they lost anybody they didn't expect to lose?
06:41Yeah.
06:42I'm sure they lost – I don't know.
06:44I have no idea.
06:45But, I mean, I think Mitchell's probably – yeah, I think Mitchell's probably won.
06:49I think Stout's probably won.
06:50I'm sure there are guys in there they didn't expect to lose.
06:54I probably won't know who they are, but there's got to be.
06:57I think if there's anybody that didn't expect to lose, it would be Stout, Jordan Stout.
07:01I think everybody else, they knew – you know, he's –
07:04Keaton Mitchell's at a point where his role could be a lot bigger,
07:07especially when he's offered that much money over what the market value was.
07:13Yeah.
07:14And I feel like they're not – they're going to find a punter, maybe not even drafted, right?
07:20Getting a punter and not having to draft him and picking him up as, like, maybe a free agent.
07:26Why don't you go down to Ed, man?
07:27What are you talking about?
07:28A punter.
07:29I just came on.
07:31I've been up all night.
07:33Can you just give me a break?
07:35I had four deputy cars outside the house last night.
07:38Oh, what happened?
07:39I don't know.
07:40Oh, man.
07:41Apparently, they were – apparently, they were – it's called a – what the hell do they call it down
07:46here?
07:46A risk protective order.
07:48Really?
07:49Yeah.
07:49You know what that means?
07:50No.
07:51That means they're trying to remove guns and firearms from somebody who was a danger to the community.
07:55Ed, does that happen?
07:56They were set up here for six, seven hours last night.
07:58Oh.
07:59And I wouldn't go to bed until they were gone.
08:01Were it guns or samurai swords?
08:04Give up my secrets.
08:06Was it – that's so funny.
08:08I know exactly what you're talking about.
08:10Does that happen a lot in Florida and Cuba?
08:13Oh.
08:16I'm going to let you off the hook right now.
08:17By the way, Ed and I had a long conversation, especially about what you two did in Florida
08:22and the shenanigans you guys got into, and he was just telling me how much he's noticed
08:26how the New York's been coming out.
08:27Oh, it's coming out.
08:28Big time.
08:28I tried not to laugh when he was talking the other day, but I'm like, eh, this is – I
08:34can not be not funny.
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