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Influence vs. Authority: The Business Leadership Shift Every Company Needs (Mason Duchatschek Show)

In this episode of The Mason Duchatschek Show, I sat down with Dr. Nicolas Pokorny, neuroscientist, leadership expert, and author of The Mammoth in the Room, to explore a crucial leadership insight:

Top-down leadership works in a fire drill—but fails in everyday culture.

Dr. Pokorny explains why quick, decisive authority can save the day in emergencies but erodes trust, engagement, and collaboration when used as a daily operating model. Instead, influence-based leadership builds stronger cultures, prevents burnout, and fosters lasting results.

Key Takeaways

“Command-and-control” leadership can work—but only in short bursts and emergencies.

Running a company in crisis mode long-term leads to burnout and disengagement.

Influence, trust, and transparency are better tools for everyday leadership.

Employees need to understand why top-down decisions are sometimes necessary.

Great leaders know when to shift between authority and influence.

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Transcript
00:00You need to build your influence network.
00:02You need to build your competence.
00:05You need to be trusted as a leader in a collaboration way and influence-based.
00:10And you be very sparely in going top-down.
00:14And you need to also be very transparent and say, now we need to be quick.
00:18Now we need to be top-down.
00:19And it will only be for a certain period of time.
00:21And that is okay when you have built the foundation of the influence-based leadership.
00:26Constantly top-down doesn't work.
00:28It just doesn't because we don't like it.
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