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What if the future of business is not faster tactics, bigger metrics, or louder marketing… but more humanity?

In this conversation, Mason Duchatschek and Dr. Nataliya Storozhylova break down the shift toward human-to-human (H2H) leadership, where authenticity, resonance, and consciousness outperform fear-based management. This episode explores how traditional business models are breaking down and why the next generation of high-performing leaders are focusing on heart intelligence, belonging, peak states, coherence, and biohacking to create workplaces people want to be part of.

Dr. Storozhylova reveals how collective consciousness is evolving, why old marketing strategies are collapsing, what the “emergence principle” means for leadership, and how organizations can build human-centered systems that increase engagement, creativity, and profitability. If you lead people, run a company, or influence culture… this conversation matters.

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If you want your organization to break out of burnout cycles and into high performance, this episode shows the path. Dr. Nataliya Storozhylova explains how leaders can use heart-brain coherence, peak states, and human-centered design to build organizations that innovate faster and retain talent longer. This is for CEOs, business owners, HR leaders, and anyone who cares about the future of leadership.

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00:00in a world where markets shift overnight and attention span shrink by the second one thing
00:12is becoming unmistakably clear the old models of business built on pressure persuasion and
00:18performance metrics are starting to crack customers are no longer buying from faceless
00:23brands employees aren't motivated by fear or control they're all craving something deeper
00:29and that's authenticity connection meaning and resonance my guest today believes that we're
00:35entering what she calls the business of the new time a shift from b to b and b to c thinking to
00:41something profoundly more human h to h human human business joining me is dr natalia storajlova i want
00:49to make sure i got that right she's a two-time phd former mind valley executive and founder of
00:56conscious business evolution she helps ceos and entrepreneurs lead from heart intelligence
01:02instead of fear building organizations that thrive on meaning coherence and creativity natalia welcome
01:08to the show thank you thank you meson thank you anybody who's watching happy to be here and happy
01:13to be of service well i know you talk about the business of the new time what exactly does that
01:19mean and what signs suggest that we might have reached a tipping point beautiful question so let's
01:26start with that the world is starting to operate at a different frequency uh we basically see that
01:31that's not extraction anymore and it's more on the resonance and we cannot ignore the fact that the
01:37collective consciousness is raising and evolving and together with that the business systems as
01:43living organisms start to evolve and match to the frequency of earth so what do i mean with that um
01:50have you heard of the emergence principle of the system theory tell me about that uh there is a
01:57phenomenon that uh shows us that one element of the system doesn't have the properties of the whole
02:02system and probably i'll give an example right away we have seen that everywhere across nature uh
02:08starting from the simple to the most complex architecture when we build a liver from a single
02:14liver cells one liver cell doesn't know how to build the whole liver but it takes the necessary
02:19quantity and the quality of these cells so they can create a liver and function at a whole new level now
02:25as the system so that is the emergence principle and we see more and more that now in the world this
02:32immersion principle that it doesn't take uh individuals um that individuals don't know those
02:39function of a whole and it takes the quality and the quantity for the system to take the whole next
02:45level so the tipping point we see right now uh as the collective of the planet is raising uh the
02:54collective consciousness we see the shift as far as coherence energy and authenticity becoming the
03:00leading principle of any business of any living system out there so we're moving from the
03:06industrial age consciousness uh that no longer sustains grow to a more hard intelligence leadership
03:12that shift the metrics to uh vitality from the productivity to connection from the control and
03:19certainly very that's a very interesting perspective and here's why i say that because here in america
03:24they they look at a building building a business like a machine like and they talk about
03:30and not usually in a in a positive life but people being cogs in a machine and and as opposed to
03:37being very mechanical you're really talking about organic living living things as opposed to something
03:43that's inanimate like a machine and when you're we're talking about businesses being comprised of
03:48people not machines well i guess it's i guess machine learning and stuff that that that may be
03:53become part of our conversation later but um i as a base point for our conversation i appreciate you
03:59laying that out that helps a lot beautiful and also if i may add here as far as people who are the
04:07those that we are serving with our products and services we also see that people don't want to be
04:13sold anymore they want to be included they want to belong they want to become an equal part of that
04:18ecosystem and that is that is very interesting because i want to give here an example that um
04:24so i'm coming from the soft skills uh business um let's say i'm more towards coaching and mentorship
04:32and different therapeutical approaches including the the quantum level biohacking and what we see
04:37across um this domain that old marketing principles really stopped working in spring 2025 and by old i mean
04:45actually really effective nlp-based marketing principle they started to fall in spring 2025 i recently was on
04:52phone with former cmo of mind valley uh who runs his own marketing agency also for um psychotherapies
05:01for mindset mentorship uh products and he confirmed exactly the same we spoke with another uh human
05:07being who helps promote the soft um niche let's say trainers in united states he told me exactly that
05:14so we're seeing that that is starting from the domain where people are able to feel more uh through the
05:21heart intelligence but this is going to be inevitable and this is going to unfold across
05:26different domains and probably in two years we'll see this radical shift so we really want to get now
05:31to this new time of sustainability and i'll just give an example of an experiment that we run this
05:37summer um in my company uh we decided to create a program that is completely opposite to what we have
05:44been ever creating uh instead of setting up a precise price we decided to go away from the fixed fee
05:50we spoke to the human superconscious mind instead of the subconscious you know triggering the fears and
05:57that that uh cascade um and we're suggesting our clients that we call actually the the equal uh researchers
06:06of the of the product that we put together to evaluate the the experience by themselves and we just set
06:13the energetic benchmark on what is it going to be that we're ready to work if it's that energetic
06:18benchmark that has never been mentioned on the web page they had basically on the web page
06:22their own amount to pay for the experience that they perceive and eventually we ended up uh with a
06:29conversion rate 120 percent meaning that it's impossible by the by the measures of all time because
06:36those people who came for the master class for the intro call they called their friends they called
06:41their colleagues and eventually um from what was that from 58 people we ended up having 65 people
06:48uh in that first uh group uh settings and basically what they said that we were so much in appreciation
06:55that you went so bold so courageous that you didn't put any specific price point that could limit us
07:01or kind of disorient us all of them went in and they said how can we pay you more because we value
07:06that you've put that with so much love with so much care and with so much human coherence and with so
07:12much resonance uh so we're repeating now that model and i don't say that that will work for everybody i know
07:19that in my niche the the clients who are resonating with my scope of work they're mostly led by heart
07:25intelligence or soul maybe calling if you want to say uh but more and more we'll be seeing that
07:32it's it's the belonging and the resonance that is shaping the the way the business goes it's it's
07:38fascinating you say this like this was not something that i i expected to to be able to talk about but
07:43i bought a company uh let's see maybe two or two years ago and a base of clients within my industry
07:53and i got a call from one of the old business owners best clients who i'd never met i'd spoken with
08:01them on the phone a few times and they needed help and they're like hey can you set up a zoom call can
08:05you do this can you do that and my gut intuition said you need to go know these people just go help
08:11them and they were about 12 hour drive but by the time i would get flights and stuff booked i could
08:19just drive there just as fast so i literally said let's book it and i i gave them a day and i said tell
08:26me what you're trying to accomplish so the conversation wasn't about my products or services like tell me
08:31what you're trying to accomplish what challenges do you have what obstacles are getting in the way
08:35what have you tried what's worked what hasn't worked what are the circumstances that you're
08:39trying to operate in and i really just asked a bunch of questions to gain an understanding for what
08:43they were dealing with what they were trying to accomplish what was getting in the way
08:46and i prepared one full day worth of consulting to spend with them and because they were a client and
08:52were already buying from technically their company and then the one i just bought
08:56i felt that hey this is just customer service i'm just going to go and provide value and service
09:01and help these people and i didn't i said and they're like how much do we you're going to charge
09:05this i said i'm not i'm coming to help you and that's what i do and i gave them my best and i was
09:13it was i couldn't believe how i was treated when i rolled in they had signs welcoming me at their front
09:18door they had signs in the front of their building welcoming me and these are people i hadn't met spoken
09:23with the phone but it was an amazing feeling and i was so excited that i really wanted to deliver over
09:28the top and i spent a whole day with them and when i got done they said hey what are your plans and
09:33i was like well i'm not really sure blah blah blah let's go out to dinner we went out to dinner and
09:38after they they treated me to a wonderful dinner beautiful restaurant and they said hey we got a
09:42gift for you and he had a nice card drawn up and there was a very handsome check in there that i
09:48never asked for i guess what i'm trying to say is what i just heard you talk about i kind of did but
09:52not on purpose but the outcome was the same they wanted to give me more than anything i ever asked
09:57than i asked for because i have experienced what you're talking about without knowing that
10:03it was that so i so much love it that is the law of balance and it's it just naturally coming like
10:09you don't even need to over ask for that it just naturally coming when you and the level of
10:13that connection where it's a heart brain connection simultaneously it was unbelievable and
10:18and i i the day started with them as clients and it ended with them being friends like if they ever
10:26came to town like they'd be welcome to stay at my house i mean it we just really felt close and we
10:31really felt tight but i made the effort to learn what i could do best to serve them and they recognized
10:40that applied it appreciated it and the bond that i have with those folks is is amazing it's it's
10:48because of what you're saying you just gave a scientific description to a lived experience
10:54that i had and couldn't have defined any other ways i'm curious though you mentioned something about
10:59uh 2025 and you said was it spring of 25 everything changed what changed you're very precise about that
11:05day when everything stopped working what makes you say that particular day so certainly i extrapolate
11:10from my own experience so up until approximately end i mean there is no specifically a certain day
11:17that it happened on that day in that hour but somewhere between end of april and beginning of may
11:23uh i have clearly seen that in my scope of business those uh neuromarketing strategies and
11:30neuromarketing strategies that have been working up until that month just stopped working i started
11:34talk to my peers in the niche uh like former cmo of mind valley uh others and they say exactly the
11:41same thing they're like i don't know what's happening but up until yesterday people were buying
11:45and we run the same principle for the different event uh super engaged people they just don't so what
11:53are some of the biggest cracks that you see in the traditional ways in which we lead sell and manage today
11:58right so i clearly see that um over-reliance on the mental models uh just started to lead to more
12:05and more burnout and disengagement what do you mean by that over-reliance on the mental models can you
12:10in layman's terms how would you re-describe that sure so i mean we used to live uh by by kpis by that
12:16specific tactics and just hitting the milestone in whatever possible way but just we need to hit
12:22it this way what i'm seeing more and more that the universal consciousness is teaching us to
12:32get more flexible with our strategies meaning that it doesn't say that we need to skip the milestone
12:41or we need to skip the the kpi uh we want to open up and explore through the creative faculties
12:49how else that could be achieved and certainly when we start as leaders when we start uh managing
12:56our wholeness our um psychoemotional intelligence more and more we're starting to create more from
13:04um coherence more from wholeness and certainly have deeper access to our creative faculties where we can
13:11work at the gamma brainwave frequencies at the flow state where we have just direct access to creativity
13:16and this is exactly what biohackers are training these days uh going to the labs hooking themselves
13:22to the eg headsets to start measuring and calibrating how can they um induce gamma brainwave frequency
13:30to be at this uh edge of being a performer but being a performer from a very coherent easy state where it
13:39just takes heart and brain coherence to be able to perform your very best without stressing up and
13:46greening yourself all the way down to to yeah to bottom so so is this in in layman's terms are you
13:53talking about peak state type stuff because like i'm a huge fan of tony robbins and he always talks
13:58about peak state and how to recreate a peak state so that you're you're i mean he talks about um like
14:05he's coached professional athletes if and i'm going to butcher it a little bit but if michael jordan
14:10who's long since retired but if he went out and scored 50 points in a game of basketball
14:14in a peak state he feels unstoppable like no one can stop me i'm going to score like he feels that
14:19peak state and the next night he has an off night and only scores 25 25 points did he lose half of
14:25his ability in 24 hours no it's the same person with the same talent it's like i guess you're talking
14:31about the frequency tony robbins might refer to it as a state are we talking about the same thing here
14:36absolutely absolutely yeah yeah we know that uh yeah a scientist laid down now in the classical
14:43neuroscience we have five brainwave frequency and certainly uh when we're operating at the beta
14:48brainwave frequency which is the stress and response to stress and kind of more like
14:53um action go-getting uh solving the problems uh it's a different type of personality it's a different
15:01type of the brain it's a different type of the brain topography different brain regions that are
15:07engaged in this process and when we are at the higher frequency which is gamma what's interesting
15:13that our brain start to synchronize different remote regions of the brain that we're not functioning
15:18together in sync when we're in beta but when we're in gamma it's like a queen of brain frequencies
15:24where it's just start orchestrating the synchronization where we start seeing this concept of time
15:30kind of dilution dissolving where we really get into flow state and it feels like just so naturally
15:36the ideas flow through us we have access to like archive of information and we're able to indeed just
15:43just keep the the flow easily like hours and hours and hours it's funny you say that because
15:50there i can think of times when i in america we would say i felt like i was on a roll everything's
15:57flowing i'm on a roll things are just working like they're supposed to and time goes by like that
16:03hours can seem like minutes because you're so engaged and so in tune to what is being required
16:10of you and how you're being challenged so how do you advise or guide folks or businesses into tapping
16:16into that kind of peak state and using it whether it's a personal level or a professional level or with
16:22your team can you can you talk to me about some practical applications of knowing what you know
16:28applied in the business world a hundred percent yes and i'll be speaking right now from a very fresh
16:34data because i've literally just today i finished the report for the first quantum level biohacking
16:38companies where we have been running a scientific study with a brain coherence frequency um so what
16:45we've seen uh they operate at the quantum level there are plenty of ways to develop the brain
16:50frequency that gamma brain wave frequency and to develop the flow state um that we just spoke
16:56with with meson uh one way is certainly uh truly technological through neurofeedback where a ceo
17:05the team lead uh the the manager of the company anybody interested individual would go to the lab would
17:13hook themselves to the eg device and they would have something that i called neurogym so just like we go to
17:18the gym to train our muscles we would go to train our brain wave frequencies to know exactly what does
17:24it feel from inside to train gamma so then you will start to see on the screen that you're like hitting
17:29the right uh the right frequency and you'll train the brain you'll train the neuro pathways to know
17:35how does it look like that certainly takes long time that's that's training um and as alternative
17:41modalities that i'm i see very few people actually speaking on that about that out loud uh but that
17:47became a very i would say common practice um the medicinal retreats that companies would go in
17:54the retreat all together uh to source the wisdom from medicinal plants uh some of them are working
18:01through uh psychedelic assisted therapies uh that they would just hire psychedelic assisted therapy
18:07and they would go at the c-level executives on the retreat to work on the specific uh team
18:13on a specific topic for the company or they would go to any other retreats uh with uh consciousness
18:20expanders which would be ayahuasca bufo and many many more and we see how scientifically now these let's
18:27say old modalities uh are showing now a very solid scientific data how does it impact the brain what kind
18:37the faculties that opens and how easily it like basically when you one time you know how you know
18:43for the rest of your life how to develop those expanded states of consciousness okay so so let me go with
18:49this i really liked your example of a gym for your brain um like if i wanted to go work out i've got
18:57gym choices everywhere i can go lift weights or get on a treadmill or i've never seen a gym for my mind
19:03my brain waves and they may be out there i haven't seen them like so how popular is this or or or how
19:12is it being embraced like this is my first exposure to it so i'm curious how a high performing executive
19:19might want to tune in how do they do that where do they go how is this done so i mean it's not like
19:27they'll run every street corner yeah if we're speaking about united states you have their fantastic
19:32lab called 40 years of zen and that's where the first biohackers uh would come to start training
19:38can you talk a little bit about biohackers because the people in the audience some may have varied
19:42degrees of you've mentioned that term a couple times can you expound on what biohackers are and
19:46what biohacking is yeah so basically biohacking is a science of um human performance and longevity so
19:54basically it's all about optimization the human reality so that they can be more human more alive
20:01more happy more healthy and certainly have access to different faculties like gamma brainwave frequencies
20:08that would help us perform much better while still being uh you know happy healthy individual
20:15versus stressed out and and burnt out okay so you're telling me there are
20:21what was your phrase that you used you said gyms for the mind yeah neurogym neurogym neurogym that was
20:28your term okay so please don't let me interrupt you tell me about how executives wanting to biohack
20:34might get the neurogym experience and how how that works yeah so if you're listening from united states you
20:41may definitely check out the 40 years of zen lab and i think there was one uh that was open the first
20:49well at this point probably around 10 years ago and there are plenty others out there uh i'm tuning
20:57from europe i know there are plenty of facilities especially lisbon is very uh very advanced lisbon
21:02berlin is very advanced in that so you may just type out the neurofeedback lab in my city uh gamma
21:10brainwave uh training and you'll find exactly the one and yeah that would take uh some some amount of sessions to to be able to tap there
21:22but basically the more you train that the more you train your neural wires to know how the easier you go with that
21:28experience on your own so that so if i understand you correctly with training just like with lifting weights or running or whatever i can
21:37condition my mind to tap into a peak state and a resourceful state almost superpower state for your brain as opposed to just like
21:46just like super like if i started lifting weights today and i'd never done it before and i did it religiously for a year i might
21:52literally be two times as strong physically as i am today a year from now to take that same principle to your mind and say hey
21:59these are some of the things you can do but you can make your mind probably more than two times but exponentially more
22:04more powerful and expand your capabilities and if i did that as a leader that would be one thing but if i also had
22:11team of people all doing that then we're talking about elevating the levels of performance in every single
22:17team leader and team member am i correct a hundred percent a hundred percent and i'm already working at the next level
22:23i'm paving the way for vibrational medicine for vibrational entrainments brain entrainments
22:29uh so i'm working already with quantum um energy and training people use quantum energy to to elevate
22:37uh the brainwave frequencies and certainly get to the expanded states of consciousness pretty much on
22:42demand so this makes total sense to me because like the whole concept people ask me even what what's
22:48workforce alchemy as you know alchemy was the study of how to turn things like base metals like lead into
22:54gold but with people and obviously you can't turn lead into gold because basic chemistry but with
22:59people you can i can i could take an employee who produces x units of output and i can invest in
23:07training and developing and that person and the next thing you know they can do 10x that is lead into
23:13gold and you can do that with individuals you can do that with departments you can do that with companies
23:17and what i hear from you is in essence that's exactly what you're doing on an individual team
23:23and company level just a different approach that many people haven't heard of like i was not familiar
23:27with it which is why i was curious and wanted to invite you on today because it's new stuff for me to
23:32learn so what do you say to skeptics or people like like i'm open to learning i'm always open to
23:39learning more about new strategies and tools that can improve individual or corporate performance what do
23:45you say to people who don't know anything about this or might be suspect or that seem like oh that
23:49just seems kind of out there what kind of what would you say to them i think let's get back to fact
23:55we certainly know that we were we were misled by by sciences for very many years regarding human
24:06architecture we knew that just physical body exists and that's that's been it and luckily now we have
24:12all the technologies and all the devices that allow us to measure the the biofield of a human body
24:20and right now the hard math institute in united states uh is by dr joe dispenza plenty of local
24:26studies here in europe and anywhere else in the world say that we're so much more than just a physical
24:31being that we're so much more than just a physical body and it takes us shift of a perspective to
24:36understand that there is more let's say chinese uh people for centuries they have been working with
24:42traditional chinese medicine and they knew that instead of just uh yeah putting the needles in
24:48the in the body to or or surgery they would just work with the energy body with the human vitality so
24:55they would just put in acupuncture a few needles exactly at the intercross of the meridians to release
25:00all the play all the pressure and they would just uh treat a bunch a whole bunch of uh different
25:06diseases uh that we would treat in west through conventional medicinal approaches they would do
25:12that in 10 minutes time uh with with yeah with huge efficiency and certainly i'll just i'll just
25:21basically give here probably just the the basics that we know that uh the human being operates from
25:27quantum uh physiology operates at the physical level at the energetic level at the emotional mental
25:34level and at the spiritual level and spiritual level we can uh right away put the the equal mark
25:40quantum field quantum field and the behind quantum field this is the field of energy and information
25:45that we all may have access to if we start developing different faculties inside of our body so
25:52yeah i'll just leave it as simple as that and basically 25 each level give us the maximum outcome if we
26:00were to take an effort 24 25 at the physical level 25 at the energetic level 25 uh emotional mental and
26:0825 spiritual i would be the heroes of your time already that makes sense to me yeah why that is so um
26:16scientists recently discovered that our heart has a nervous tissue inside we have the neurons in the heart
26:22and that synchronization that we have between the mind and the heart is so essential and now heart math
26:30institute is abundantly um putting that not as a phenomenon anymore as a huge experiment and all the
26:37findings that they have found and there are lots of others research institutions that proving that that
26:42fact of heart brain coherence allows us to uh expand the field of a human being meaning that actually
26:50anytime we think that we take the decision from our mind we actually first sense it through our neural
26:56system in the heart and the electromagnetic field of the heart is 100 times bigger than the electric
27:01magnetic field of the mind and this is the sign that we pretty much don't know but if we were just to
27:07yeah become more curious towards the facts like really up-to-date facts uh we we certainly can have access to
27:14our bigger scope of potential and we don't need to be uh superheroes or genius it's just knowing that
27:21we have the manual for our body that we can perform at much higher degree and actually still be happy
27:26not just successful but be happy and be healthy at the same time so why why in your opinion why are
27:34strategies that are built on control persuasion and fear losing their effectiveness uh because certainly
27:39we know that uh when we operate on fear uh we operate with a huge amount of cortisol in our system
27:45and all this set of hormones and neurotransmitters uh shift our nervous system to fight and flight mode
27:54and just people sense that uh first uh like we we don't consciously know that but we smell that
28:03we smell that now scientists again prove that through the olfactory nerve we receive the information
28:08about the cortisol level of our human being so what our uh let's say when team leaders are showing up
28:14and suggesting the fear-based strategies um there is a subtle level that the the team understand that
28:22there is something is not quite right here and that yeah uh at simply at the biological level uh the
28:29presence of cortisol the presence of neurotransmitters in our mind in our bloodstream uh sends us a very
28:35misleading signal and on one hand we still operate on the fear because that's how we've been trained
28:41because that's how our human software i call it android self works but at the same time we already
28:48feel that there is uh there is a way to live better there is a way to live and like we intuitively sense
28:54that uh and we're now shifting to to what we start operating as more like avatar self versus android
29:01so we often hear be more human as advice to leaders but what does h2h or human human business
29:08actually look like in practice you know i'd love to start here zoom out a little bit and start here
29:13that when we start embodying the principle that everything in my reality is me what i mean was that
29:21that any um external situations any um any people in our reality is the projection of our inner self
29:31it just becomes so clear how we can render our reality better like when we got to work as leaders
29:38on our wholeness we just start calibrating the field around us people around us so they don't they
29:45don't need to play those ugly situations because we are becoming the master renderer of the reality
29:51i don't know how how how clear and easy is that but basically the the principle that i'm now training
29:58with leaders is when we get to our wholeness and integrity when we remove that old human programming
30:08that holds us back we just start seeing different reality i'm now working already with leaders
30:13who come in the companies as a very conscious self who embodies the principle that anything around me
30:22is me rendering that where they just come into spaces and they start calibrating people and they are
30:27much less likely stepping into the ugly sceneries where uh the team is not performing uh we need to
30:36constantly motivate and punish somebody no they just like just like we know from from asian
30:41different masters of spirituality how it just takes the presence of that person and something
30:46starts shifting inside of you and that is that is not the the kind of guru um age anymore by just
30:54like knowing that if you are the architect of your reality and you as a leader bring that in your team
30:59in your company in your family you just start seeing different reality and you don't need to work
31:04with the circumstances you just work with the core of the core and the reality shifts and it's a very
31:11solid quantum science behind that because you start operating on the principle of quantum entanglement
31:15entanglement if there is nothing to be matched for uh whatever lack of performance or or or anything
31:24anything that is a distortion there won't be distortion in your reality because you have chose to be
31:29integrate itself and that's how reality changes itself it was it's funny because i in america i
31:36talk to a lot of executives and i listen to a lot of experts and we talk about things like employee
31:41engagement and one of the themes that i've really seen happen in a lot lately is employers thinking
31:48that to engage and retain their employees they just need to be nice to them and as a expansion the
31:55idea that like you know you don't want to be mean i'm not saying that but but i think what
31:59the consensus i'm learning is more important it's more important for business owners and leaders
32:04not just to be nice but more importantly than being nice is to help them win create an environment or
32:11provide tools or understanding or whatnot that allows them to to win and maximizes their maximizes
32:18the probability of their success maximizes the scope of their achievement and and i think that's what
32:24i feel and what i see and what i hear people talking about is creating an environment in a world where
32:29people achieve and succeed and are happy because of it as opposed to my manager's nice to me he lets
32:35me do stuff that like that's so superficial and shallow relative to to some of the things you're
32:41talking about how can companies in your opinion design systems that are truly human centered
32:45without sacrificing profitability or performance because i could see where people listening might
32:50say well that sounds great whatnot but we got work to do like let's just get back to work help me
32:54understand how you envision how companies could again design systems that are truly human centered
32:59without sacrificing profitability or performance i'd love to take that really back to basics uh you know
33:05i've worked at mind valley and i've seen a great uh company that has the culture that allows everybody
33:12to thrive um allows everybody to be on the same mission and know that you're very important uh element in this
33:22mission and i've seen how greatly that works i've worked closely with this quantum level biohacking
33:27company lila quantum tech who has that same company value and culture and it's all actually based on love
33:35but i think we are in the modern day in the modern time we confuse love with compassion with just being
33:43nice love is a power and every power has the field and it's it's the leader's heart leader's heart field
33:52the electromagnetic field that calibrates others whom i guess first they in a way they filter because to
33:58arrive to a certain company to serve to a specific mission you want to be connected with that mission
34:02you want to be at the same page you want to be at that level of alignment the level of coherence
34:06where serving to the bigger serve to your exact goal and you know exactly who you are you know exactly
34:12why you're doing that you basically cannot not do that so i think it first takes uh company leaders
34:18to create that filtration system that eventually those who land in the company they're 100% aligned
34:24they know exactly why they are there they know how much it serves their purpose they know who they are
34:29and they know that they really cannot not do that so that's first and that's i've seen as a great
34:34example at mind valley i think by the time i arrived there was 2019 um i was what zero zero point five
34:42percent of selected people that year and when i arrived i really felt what does it mean if you're
34:48really working with the soulmates like the whole company we were there 360 people it was like soulmates
34:54like everybody was so near and dear to me and it was just so much easier when you're in that coherence
34:59and felt anytime you go to work it was a celebration because we were uh at the level of resonance at the
35:05level of same mission same values and this is what i'm building in my teams constantly that it takes
35:11one or two uh leaders who are in wholeness who are in integrity who know how to calibrate the field
35:17who know how to render the reality to thrive certainly that yeah uh mission alignment integrity
35:25uh makes the whole the whole difference because sometimes we may want to invest in people who are
35:32maybe a little bit less skilled but have that core values that 100% aligned and we know that we will
35:39invest three to six months let's say to train them to be exactly what they need to be and it's much
35:44easier than half cancer cells inside the human organization inside the corporation or organization
35:50who are badass professionals but have zero uh integrity and zero coherence with the values i love
35:58how you keep using the example of a business as a living organism as opposed to a machine i love that
36:03you you described energy and resonance as new currencies in business how do you measure or observe
36:10their tangible impact on metrics like retention innovation or even revenue so again something
36:15that i'm experimenting personally in my own business in my own uh niche that is more uh the transformation
36:22and super consciousness training um i'm seeing from that paradigm of the business of new time that the
36:30more love we put in every process and it literally means like on the day-to-day basis if i am in the
36:37bad mood or or something that will not flow i know that i have to do uh all my best serving strategies
36:44and tactics to put myself into the state where i am the top me so that i can infuse everything that i'm
36:51doing with love with uh happiness with joy whatever frequency i want to on board there i know that i first
36:58myself need to put in that shoes and then from there it just goes so much easier and then certainly people
37:04that i uh engage in my projects i'm also making sure that they're 100 aligned with my frequency if
37:10they are not uh well first actually i'm i guess i'm lucky enough that they are not coming in my orbit
37:15anymore um i guess i have created maybe like again like the cell the cell inside the human body has the
37:22custom that it knows what comes inside the cell and what needs to be extracted immediately from the cell
37:26so this is a principle i operate myself and um so first principle is yeah infusing everything with
37:34love and if i feel like it's not that uh state i will do anything that is my power to put myself in
37:40that state to create from that state and i know that it's for very many individuals it's not kind of
37:46practical every day but sometimes even giving yourself a minute of break and just going and connecting
37:51with your bigger vision with whom are you serving why are you doing what you're doing and just just
37:56connecting with who you are uh gets you back on track and then again i love what you're saying there
38:01was a again i've mentioned tony robbins a few times because you know in america he's not as he's he has a
38:07way of breaking down some of the science that you're talking about in layman's terms so he's like you don't
38:13have to understand how electricity works to light a room like i i don't care what all i need to do is i know
38:20i just go flip a switch and i can see and i'm not going to bump into stuff so in a practical sense
38:25he's like you just need to know what to do to get the outcome you don't need to know how it works you
38:28understand how this all works which is what's fascinating to me but one of the things that he's
38:33he said in his programs he said he who is more committed to his state will influence others to
38:38theirs so what i hear you saying is as a leader you take the responsibility to put yourself into a
38:43peak state and are so committed to that that you rub off on the others you're more committed to your
38:49peak state than they are to their less than optimal state and that you rub off on them and set the tone
38:53for the people on your team is that a accurate representation of what you're describing precisely
38:58and then this way you calibrate others so then others they just don't have an excuse because they
39:03see you every day becoming this attuning fork and they're like it's either we we change or we die in a
39:09way uh these people can cannot stay long enough on your orbit uh if you are changing they are not i mean
39:17it's like again the system the principle of the system then one element changes another changes as
39:21well it's like you are uh raising evolving your consciousness the others automatically evolve so if
39:29you were advising a ceo listening to this right now what's one small daily practice that they could
39:36start using to build coherence and presence in their leadership i'll come back to that principle that
39:41everything in my reality is me that means that if you want better outcomes and you want better
39:48situations in your life uh turn back to yourself and see where i am not yet giving that in the world
39:59where i'm not giving yet that to to myself and when we just start deeply embodying and it's really
40:04deeply embodying that the wholeness the knowingness that everything around me is me that it's it's the
40:11game of my internal projections and i'll give here an example of a computer game because i think
40:16most of us have played computer game when we played the whatever saga uh the heroes of might and magic
40:23uh you know that you have the the character on your screen right and there are other characters
40:28especially if you play with a huge uh with a huge scope of people and it's not that that person from
40:34behind the screen screen comes on your screen it's actually the projection of that player comes on your
40:40screen and based on the settings of your computer of your video card of that the whatever the shades
40:47the grades you will see that player the projection of that player in your own light maybe he comes in a
40:53purple costume uh but you're seeing that as a different color as a different shape uh and
40:59depending on the yeah on the crispness of your video card you'll see that differently and let's say
41:05if your keyboard doesn't work you cannot even give the command properly to the player so this is this
41:10is exactly that is the mirror of of uh of the reality that is happening it's like the other people are just
41:18the projections of your own programs and they're just mirrors to your reality so when you start
41:25shifting the paradigm instead of changing the world around to changing the world inside of you
41:30the outer world start playing by your rules what's fascinating to me about this conversation is that
41:37on a practical level i kind of understand it and but i don't i don't understand the technical stuff
41:43or didn't understand it as well as i do now based on this conversation i look at
41:48the things like our reticular activating system you know where our mind tells us what to pay attention
41:52to and what not to pay attention to and i've there was a i did a event recently where i had a list of
42:00a bunch of different items on a screen and i said hey we're going to do a memory test i'm going to give
42:06you five seconds to look at everything that's on the screen and then i'm going to ask you to tell me
42:10how many red items were there and i showed them the items i counted to five and then i took it off
42:15and it's a blank screen and then i asked them how many blue items they saw and they're like uh uh well
42:19there was about 10 times the amount of blue items on that page as there were red items and most of
42:26them couldn't recall any of them so the the point to them was you see what you're looking for and just
42:33because you didn't see something it didn't mean it wasn't there they clearly saw once i showed them
42:38the picture again after we were done with that experiment they saw wow there's blue items everywhere
42:43and i was like i didn't trick you you saw all of this is the exact same set of images i showed you
42:49before but you didn't see it because that's not what you were looking for and and when they realized
42:54wow there's things that i'm missing in my world around me there's there's things that are around
42:58me that are invisible i can't see them that doesn't mean they're not there and if i can't see them and
43:03don't know they're there i can't use them and it doesn't benefit me and it was it was a very much an
43:08eye-opening experience for for all of them because you know i understand it's the reticular activating
43:12system and how it works but but to see the people in the audience go what else am i missing around me
43:18whether it's conversations or it's impressions or it's body language or it's something someone said
43:23or something someone did that actually happened that i can use to help me or that could be a threat
43:28that i should be aware of but they miss it all and that's why this conversation is fascinating to me
43:34because you're you're really talking at a scientific level how to enhance your capabilities between your
43:41ears it's fascinating me love the example you gave because it really takes like we live through
43:46stories we live through experiments this is exactly how we learn at the very best and this is what's
43:52missing in the yeah in the spaces out there that we'll learn through experience we'll learn more
43:57and more through play this is the most efficient way for for our human human body architecture well
44:03it's it's very easy like if i'm around a bunch of other people and i have the a team of people that
44:08all see things that i don't see and if you want to you i'm going to use one of your terms and we have
44:12the love and the vibe and the and the all of us are operating in a peak state that's great but i need
44:18to trust that the guy to my right can can see the blue items the girl to my right can see the green
44:24items the other guy can see the maroon items the person on my left can see the black items and
44:29whatever it may be if i surround myself with a team of people and we operate as as a team and have
44:35trust then they can give me the information i need to make good decisions because my decisions are
44:39only the sound of the facts in which they're based and if i don't have all that input and it's accurate
44:43input then i'm operating by default at a disadvantage now it's great when you have a team but the value
44:49that i see about what you're talking about is if i don't have a bunch of people around me
44:53and i have to be able to see things that i don't see and i have to be able to hear things i don't
44:57hear and sense things that are there and can help me or can hurt me and i don't even know they're
45:02there much less how to take advantage of them of the opportunities or avoid the the pitfalls i need
45:08to know how to do that so when i don't have the support of a team i can be much better and i think
45:13that's really the the heart of what you're getting at am i am i mistaken or am i on target with that
45:17absolutely absolutely and i love that we actually we started with that and we're wrapping up now also
45:23with that that it's that emergence principle where the new property of a whole system uh appears
45:31when yeah there is the quality and the quantity of the elements in the system so what's what's one
45:38structural or cultural change that companies can make to move from fear-based to resonant business
45:44models among of many i would actually say that the consciousness expansion because that allows
45:51everybody it's exactly the example that you've given with reticular activating system and so much
45:56more beyond to see the invisible to be able to create to be those creators be those leaders and
46:05creators of the new time that are able to see beyond that are able to see uh into the future and
46:13retrieve those ideas from the future but it takes certainly the amount of yeah consciousness training
46:19the amount of yeah expansion to to be able to see those opportunities and what's interesting we're
46:25now running an experiment uh on calibrating human consciousness to see more colors to see more
46:32um to to to receive more tastes and basically that's what i'm calling the transition from the
46:39consciousness 3d to the 5d where you are indeed starting to when you start working with those brainwave
46:45frequencies when you're starting to get access to you start differentiating so much more shades of
46:50green so much more different tastes and at the whole level so there is a way for sure to calibrate us
46:58to the higher capacity to receive more input more sensory input and be able to compute because it's not a
47:04problem for us very many times to receive the input but it's a problem to compute and this is this is what
47:10we're working on so i know that you're gonna have a wide range of options to choose from but if there
47:17was only one piece of advice that you could offer to business owners or ceos what would it be and why
47:23well i'll stick to to consciousness expansion so whatever the modality whatever the tool you would
47:29choose uh but if you are able to get to the expanded state of consciousness have access to gamma brainwaves
47:35on demand uh you already become superhuman you already become the human of the new time who just
47:41start becoming the the conscious master of the reality rendering and that's it you don't need to
47:47you don't need to know exactly how the quantum field functions how the behind quantum field functions
47:52but just as you get to know how you function you have all the keys to all the doors in this universe in
47:59this in this business infrastructure in yeah in client loyalty and any any any other adherence
48:08strategies so how can people learn more about you the work you do in your company what's the best way
48:14for them to reach out with you or connect with you sure happy to connect with you through the web page
48:18consciousnessbodyevolutionlab.com uh you can find me also by www natalia storožilova.com
48:28and linkedin uh probably is the best strategy to connect through the through the personal
48:33for the personal business basis thank you so much for sharing your wisdom your insights
48:39and the passion for for your work it's been a pleasure and i'm super super glad that you agreed
48:46to come on and and share that with me thank you madam thank you such a pleasure the pleasure
48:50is mine and happy to stay in touch and connect with all of you i appreciate it
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