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03:18Welcome to Beyond the Tape, I'm your host and welcome to all the viewers in Trinidad and Tobago and of course across the globe.
03:36It's been a very wet Tuesday of course and you know there were a lot of flooding in particular parts of Trinidad and Tobago of course.
03:44Along the East-West Corridor and also in South Trinidad.
03:49This video you're seeing here apparently is somewhere in the Faizabad area I understand under some water there.
03:56After heavy rainfall I believe across the country and you know a lot of motorists were sending social media videos about their escapades trying to get through the water.
04:10And there was also an incident.
04:12Luckily the gentleman escaped with his life where a tree would have collapsed near the area where the UWE Doubles is located there.
04:23It was quite a huge tree of course and fire officers were out.
04:29They spent a considerable time clearing the debris and so on and the leaves and the branches of the trees of course had to be cut down.
04:37But luckily that tree was behind the premises of a person but he was not at home I believe at the time of the incident and so luckily he was not injured.
04:52So you know that bad weather of course we'll hear more about that later in the newscast.
04:57And of course today we are joined by Sergeant Greenidge from the Community Policing Unit of the Greenville and of the Greenville Police Youth Club.
05:06Sergeant Greenidge how are you doing?
05:08I'm acting Sergeant Greenidge of the Community and the Policing Section of the Greenville and Greenville Police Youth Club.
05:13Good afternoon to you and once again a pleasure to be here. Thanks for having me Mr. Bassan.
05:18Well certainly I just wanted to start off with some good news you know as it relates to some of you know recently we've had shootings involving police officers.
05:28And I remember on October 22nd there was a shooting of PC Kiana Mahabir.
05:36We are happy to say that she was discharged earlier today from the hospital and she's now in the comfort and care of her family.
05:46So we certainly do wish her speedy recovery as you may have recalled she was followed after coming from New Jersey where she would have performed with the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service Band.
05:56And a couple seconds after she reversed into her garage in Karenee not far from the airport.
06:05Apparently a vehicle that had followed her there came and they attempted to I don't know if they tried to open the car door where she was driving.
06:14And when they were unsuccessful of course they shot at her. She was shot in the head and chest.
06:20So we are happy to report that she's on demand and of course I know you will be elated as well that she is on demand and recovering.
06:30Of course we thank God for her recovery thus far and we're hoping that she has a swift and total recovery from this situation.
06:38Certainly. And another note of course sad as it may seem there was a shooting death of PC Krishna Vanaha last week as you would have recalled during an anti-crime exercise in the Southwestern Division.
06:55And at that particular incident which would have occurred just up on the top of this hill at the house to your left he would have been shot.
07:05Now we understand that a 35 year old man was to date charged with his murder as well as possession of firearm and possession of ammunition and is expected to appear before a magistrate tomorrow.
07:22So we want to thank our comrades our colleagues of the Homicide Bureau Southwestern Division for their due diligence and their quick work in this situation as well as members of the public who would have assisted in ensuring that this person is brought before justice.
07:40Yes certainly the Southern Homicide Division there with Inspector Maraj and company doing diligent work of course to bring this matter to closure pretty soon.
07:51And of course the shooting death of the other individual which happens to be a relative of Mr. Joseph who was charged is still under the consideration of the Director of Public Prosecutions and police are hoping for pronouncement on that pretty soon.
08:06Right so you know the Jaden Lalchan matter is already in full circle again following that unfortunate incident where he died on October 3rd by suicide.
08:19And I know there is a campaign that you all have embarked upon at the schools Be a Buddy Not a Bully and I know you are here to just give us a little update about what is happening with that campaign and how successful it has been thus far.
08:33Right so within the Northern Division we have prioritized we have identified and prioritized schools in which situations like that is most prevalent and we have begun treating with them based on priority.
08:47So to date we have been to several schools, the schools that stand out presently would be the Arima New Government, the Karapo RSC School in which there was an incident with the principal as well, the Arikawa Government Primary among others, Arima North Secondary.
09:05Right and we have seen a lot of impact in terms of what we did. Right again we are presently observing a significant decrease in incidents of school violence in the Northern Division and that comes out of us continuing to use the SIP approach which is Suppression Intervention and Prevention.
09:29Right so we are edifying, ensuring that things that we call bullying in the public domain are in fact offenses as described under the law from a policing perspective.
09:43So we are educating them that they can be charged with numerous offenses for the things that they are calling bullying which can range from larceny from the person to robbery and violence in some instances. Right and we have been having significant impact in doing so at this time.
09:59And I know that you know previously before this was launched I know there was this issue that a lot of these young people are afraid to come forward and give information if they are a victim and has that changed in the last couple of weeks?
10:13Have you seen that difference where children who have been victims of bullying are now coming forward when you go to these schools or sharing information in some other measure if they don't want to be identified directly but sharing that information with a teacher or somebody that then you can reach out to that particular individual?
10:33I think what we observed within recent times is that there is a high infiltration of school, of gang culture in the schools. Right so though the streets have a street culture the streets have this no snitch policy.
10:48Right so it is in fact prevalent in the schools where children who want to come forward and share are deemed snitches and of course sometimes victims are even further bullied. Right.
11:02So there is still that problem existing?
11:04There is but what we have done again just like we do with the general public the more time we spend in the school the more relationships we build with them the more inclined they will be to have that public trust to give us the information we require.
11:19Right so our officers are in the schools on a daily basis. We do a patrol in the morning in Arima, in the Arima and Barons area dispatching the children to school.
11:31Right some of them when they land we will take them to school. We have a nice 12 seater bus so we huddle them in the vehicle and we take them to school to avoid the loitering and you find the more time we spend the more relationships we build the easier it is to have an impact in terms of having the information come forward and so on.
11:51Right so we become more than just a face to them. They understand us, we understand them and the more we learn to share.
11:58And I know that you know the police yesterday would have made the pronouncement that they have insufficient evidence at this point in relation to the Jayden Lalshan matter.
12:09Right.
12:11And of course the investigation still remains open.
12:13Of course.
12:15And I know that you know there might have been some kind of non-cooperation by certain personnel that might have hampered that investigation in some measure.
12:25Well you usually find that Mark we all take pride in the secondary school we would have attended.
12:34And in instances where we leave that scene or doing something we bring the school into disrepute.
12:41We tend to want to prevent speaking ill of our secret and beloved institutions.
12:47Right but as I said before once there is constant communication and relationships are built I guarantee that eventually somebody would come forward and share their experiences or his experiences where that matter is concerned.
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16:29Welcome back to Beyond the Tape.
16:31I'm your host Mark Bassan joined today by acting Sergeant Greenwich from the Community Policing Unit and of course the Greenville Police Youth Club.
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16:42Orapun, my bad.
16:44So we want to take you to this video of course and we know crime is no laughing matter.
16:49But sometimes when you see videos like this you have to often wonder.
16:52Let's take a look.
16:56So you're seeing the suspect and you're seeing his face in plain sight.
17:05He's sitting there just waiting, you know.
17:08And then suddenly he puts his arm in his waist and draws what appears to be a firearm.
17:15Comes to the counter.
17:17Makes a demand for cigarettes of some sort.
17:20Cartoon of cigarettes.
17:22Drops the gun.
17:23Yes, drops the gun.
17:25And then he goes to the counter.
17:27And then he goes to the counter.
17:29And then he goes to the counter.
17:31And then he goes to the counter.
17:33And then he goes to the counter.
17:34Cigarettes.
17:35Drops the gun.
17:36Yes, drops the gun.
17:38And then he comes back with the firearm and a bag to pack the items.
17:45Acting Sergeant Greenwich.
17:47Enlighten us.
17:49Yes, Mark. It is clear to me that it is not only UE.
17:52That recently had their graduation.
17:54But apparently High School of Robbing had a graduation recently.
17:59Because clearly this gentleman lacks experience in what he's doing.
18:02in what he's doing. I would suggest you find someone else. He's not cut out for what he's trying to do here.
18:09Of course not. You can see his face and of course I'm almost certain that this would have happened somewhere in the Aruka district.
18:20So we are hopeful that the officers of the Aruka Police Station and Environs of Northern Division are looking at this video.
18:27So this man is packing in, apart from cash also, bottles of alcohol, cigarettes. So he's stocking up for Christmas.
18:35Yes, clearly. But he has given the police a lot to work with and we are very, very grateful to him for that.
18:42So it is clear that he may be spending his Christmas elsewhere.
18:47Indeed. And that was just one mod. But there was another very comical robbery that took place at a grocery we want to look at here.
18:59This gentleman has a trolley full of items. So obviously everything looks natural there. You're shopping, you're going down the aisles and so on.
19:09You're coming up the other aisle, stopping to pick up any other items and then he stops, looks around, puts something in a red bag.
19:28So he pulls up at the cashier, puts some of the items onto the counter. And guess what happens next?
19:42So while the cashier is still attending to the other customer, he puts the items and he walks out of the bag with items in the bag.
19:55Again, Mark, it is clear that he too would have graduated sometime this week. And again, with his entire face showing.
20:05And we want to thank them. The solvability rate needs to be increased by the police service and clearly we see that happening with these two incidents.
20:14Yes. Because both of them, you can see their faces quite clearly and I know that with technology and so on and slowing down the footage and looking at his face, I'm certain that they can perhaps quite soon make an arrest in both these cases.
20:33So, of course, if you have any information about these individuals, you obviously can contact the nearest police station and give information about these particular individuals.
20:47I think we have another video, I believe, that we are seeing here. Somebody is on the nation's roadways and they are swerving, it appears.
21:04Lights off.
21:05Yes. It would appear that that person might be enumerated in some way.
21:13Clearly.
21:15Because they are drifting from lane to lane on the highway.
21:21And these situations don't only affect the driver in question, the market also affects the innocent drivers that are utilising the roadways at the same time.
21:30Yes.
21:31Right. And clearly he is putting a lot of person's lives at risk.
21:35And with the Christmas season upon us, we want to urge motorists, if you are drinking, please, please don't drive. Get a friend that is not drinking on that day.
21:47A designated driver.
21:48A designated driver to drive you around if you are going to festivities or anything, because clearly this individual not only is endangering his life and those that are in his vehicle, but other people on the roadway.
22:01Clearly.
22:04So we are hopeful.
22:08Okay, so he is continuing along the roadway here, of course.
22:19And the person who is with the dashcam is trying to catch up with him, of course.
22:26And this man is trying to overtake. He is on the far left lane now.
22:32He is now on his shoulder.
22:38And it is these situations that put our citizenry, our loved ones at risk when using the roadways as well.
22:46I think he might have drove into some of those dividers there.
22:53Ah, now you see what has happened.
22:56Luckily, he pulls onto the shoulder.
22:59This looks like he is going south on the highway.
23:02I can't see the signage quite well, but he is still continuing.
23:06He rams into the wall. Oh, it is a potter's pin, so he is coming northbound.
23:11He rams into the wall on his shoulder.
23:14Luckily, he did not injure anybody else.
23:16Again, he is on his shoulder.
23:17Yes.
23:18I think he is going off the road.
23:21So we are asking our citizenry again.
23:24It could be a case of being tired as well.
23:27Yes.
23:28If you think you are too tired to get behind the wheel, it is always recommended that you rest.
23:34You find some safe place and you take a little rest before you head to the mission.
23:39Because a gentleman once said to me, you don't ever fall asleep driving. You wake up.
23:44Yes.
23:46You wake up whilst on the road.
23:48So we are asking people to express due diligence on our roads.
23:52Let us try to get home as safely as we can.
23:55Because as you say, Sergeant Batson was on this program last week.
23:59He spoke immensely about drinking and driving, especially around this time when things get hectic on the roadways.
24:06There are a lot more things happening.
24:08Christmas and the carnival.
24:09Yes.
24:11So as I said, we want to urge the motorists who are deciding to have a good time.
24:17Obviously, get a designated driver as acting Sergeant Greenwich recommended.
24:22And I would also recommend the same.
24:24And even if you have to drive, you have to ensure that your alcohol intake is way less than if you happen to be stopped on a roadblock.
24:35And you have to be responsible.
24:37You said, okay, I'm having two drinks at the early stage of the festivities.
24:42And then I drink water.
24:43And then I'm okay to drive and so on.
24:46And that's a responsible driver, right?
24:48Yes, it is.
24:49So we clearly want to urge all motorists going into this festive season to adhere to the rules.
24:58Use your discretion.
25:00Yes, definitely use your discretion.
25:03And just before we go to the break, any other message you want to give to them?
25:07Again, we have seen lack of use of seatbelts, using devices while driving.
25:13All these things adversely impact our ability to respond on the road.
25:18We should not even arise.
25:20So we're asking people, let us abide by the rule of the law.
25:25The officers will be out there enforcing the law to the best of their ability to ensure that we minimize the carnage on our nation's roads.
25:33Yes, certainly.
25:34And I don't think a lot of people are aware of this.
25:36But even though you're pull aside to use your cell phone, you are supposed to switch your ignition off before you use your cell phone because you can still be charged if the vehicle is idling.
25:47If the vehicle is idling.
25:48Right?
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29:01Welcome to Beyond the Tape. I'm your host, Marc Bessant, of course, joined today by acting Sergeant Greenidge from the Community Policing Unit and the Auropool Youth Sports Club.
29:12Am I correct?
29:13No, Auropool Police Youth Club, but that's fine.
29:16Auropool Police Youth Club.
29:18Alright, I'll get it correct on the next day.
29:21So, we were talking about some of the anti-bullying initiatives you all have been embarking upon.
29:28And I know you have a couple of images and so on to show us and walk us through that.
29:33Alright, so it's not only about the anti-bullying initiatives.
29:38It's also about us ensuring that we foster that community spirit, that relationship with the public and engender public trust.
29:49Right, what we observe is that there are two universal language we use with youths, music and sports.
29:58Right, we realize that children that are involved in both, in combining academics, tend to be well-rounded and focus on goal-driven, focusing their goals and accomplishing them.
30:13Right, so as such, some of these schools in which we identify children whom we believe may need engagements.
30:21We have partnered with these schools to form football teams, cricket teams with them.
30:27Giving the children opportunities to go out and compete, which is a field trip on our team.
30:32And also giving them an opportunity to learn a skill or sport.
30:35Right, we have also engaged, as I told you before, primary, secondary, tertiary schools throughout the country.
30:43It shows not only vision, where we believe that our engagement is required.
30:48What you see now is the school that is the Caraparazzi School.
30:53They are in my new government, where our focus and emphasis is on ensuring that these children understand that what they are calling bullying can, in fact, amount to offenses.
31:03We also showed some of the photos to them, where some of our children from the division would have even had an opportunity to go to Florida and play netball with our team.
31:14Right, we are engaging in a boxing program.
31:19We had Shaka Heslop visit some of them when he was last here, inspiring them, donating sporting equipment for them to carry on.
31:27So a lot of them would not be in a position to get equipment on their own for free sports.
31:34So we engage places like Shaka Heslop and NJU's NJU's to get it to them.
31:39We have also done career affairs in the school, ensuring that children understand what it really takes to become a police officer.
31:48And from the foundation, there's the passes and so on.
31:51But the character, the decision-making integrity, all these things must be intact.
31:56Right, so we use sports, we use all these different engagements within the division to impact positively on the incidence of school violence and so on, we would have seen.
32:08We also had community walkabouts, where we not only engage in the students, but we also engage in residents within the community, letting them know that the police is here.
32:18We are doing our best to foster relationship with you all, because the battle against crime is not ours alone.
32:25Yes.
32:26It is our common enemy, and as such we need to ally ourselves together to treat with it.
32:31As part of the programs, I'm just curious, do you all do skits and so on to help them to not only verbally communicate this, but also in a visual sense, so that they can get a clearer understanding of what is bullying and what should be done about it?
32:48So different police officers have different lecturing styles.
32:54What you just spoke about, I use a lot of theatre, theatrical, in my delivery, and it is more interactive, so the children not only are edified, but they experience what we're trying to explain to them.
33:09So if you're explaining bullying, we may take a random child from the school population, bully them a little bit, show them how it feels, ask them how they feel about it, have them do it.
33:20You know, we talk about bullying, not just being giving your fellow student pecan, but it speaks of the imbalance of power.
33:29So we go in-depth in how we explain to them, and of course we use theatre and other avenues in our delivery.
33:35Right?
33:36We also utilize mainstream media like yourself, social media and so on to get the point across in their language.
33:44Approximately, how many students thus far have you all touched or reached out to and been able to speak with across these classrooms?
33:52That's a good question, that's a really good question. If I were to estimate, I would say close to 1,500 to 2,000 students.
33:58What was the response like in most cases?
34:00It was always positive, and you know of course, the reward for good work is always more work.
34:05So what you find is happening now, principals will be networking, and we're getting a lot more calls to come in, we need an intervention in this school.
34:13We have also set up a panel to treat with something like a disciplinary tribunal, where if two children are involved in an incident,
34:25both parents are calling, the principal, persons from student support services, the guidance counselors and so on, sit with the police,
34:34we mediate and we go through the entire situation, which would have occurred.
34:38And of course we all agree upon an amicable solution in terms of what should be done with respect to disciplining the perpetrator.
34:45So parents, students, everybody feel like stakeholders in that process, so it is much better received.
34:53And usually the results are much more impactful.
34:57In fact, today we were in a local government primary before I got here.
35:01And what we employ on parents is stop focusing on the what.
35:05We like to focus on what the child did.
35:07They get better results when they focus on why.
35:10Why is my child behaving in such a manner?
35:13And once we can figure out the why, it is easy now to create a solution that is more long term.
35:19You hear parents say, now cut the tail.
35:21Cutting the tail is a quick fix.
35:23It will only patch the situation for now.
35:26But unless we get down to the underlying issue, there will be no resolve.
35:31Now, we're going into the Christmas season in a couple of weeks, and of course school is going to be out, right?
35:36Is there any plans by the TGPS or Yvande or Poon Police Youth Club to run any kind of programs to assist these children?
35:48During the holiday break, of course, do you have camps or anything like that?
35:51Of course, we now have a situation where the traditional two-week holiday for Christmas is no more.
35:58They're now home for a month.
36:00Right now, there's a month with limited supervision.
36:03If you watch the demographics, some of them are coming from Singapore and other places and so on.
36:06So again, in the Northern Community, under our Superintendent of Cops, Mr. Cathy,
36:12and our Senior Superintendent of Division, Mr. Bernard Wilson, ASP Pitt and others,
36:17we always try to take a proactive step in what we're doing.
36:21So we have already identified, as I told you, that they're home for a month.
36:24And we have clubhouses, Maluni, Brazzers, St. Raphael, Twin City, Dinsley,
36:31which is based in the old Five River Secondary School, Oropun, Greenville and others,
36:37already preparing to get the children involved in culinary arts,
36:41teaching them to make sorrel, make things for Christmas and so on.
36:45A lot of the clubs will, in fact, have their annual award ceremony,
36:49where children are honoured for all the work they would have done,
36:52who would have excelled for the year, their Christmas treat and so on.
36:56Right, so usually Christmas time is packed with activities.
37:01And what are the hours for those type of activities to take place?
37:05Right, so what we have launched in the Northern North Division,
37:09specifically with the police youth clubs, is what we call Operation Safe Space.
37:14As I said before, it is always a challenge for the single parent
37:20to decide to directly supervise my children or go and provide for them.
37:26So what we have done is transform the clubhouses during the holiday,
37:31the vacation period, into safe spaces where your children are, in fact,
37:36engaged by police officers, so they are well supervised.
37:39They engage with children who are on a positive path like themselves.
37:44We treat with issues, behavioural challenges and so on.
37:48Right, it is a controlled environment.
37:50So when it comes time to be reintegrated into the school environment,
37:55there is a smaller period for transition,
37:58because they are already in a controlled environment in the youth club.
38:02Right, so I think we are going to take your calls when we come back.
38:06Of course, those numbers are 623-1711 extensions 1992-1993.
38:12I think my producer is summoning me.
38:15I am not certain whether she is saying there is a caller on the line.
38:19Is there? Oh, there is.
38:21Caller, good evening.
38:25Good evening, caller.
38:28Very good evening, sir, and to the police on set.
38:33Now, beyond bullying, to me that is a relative thing,
38:38because I know that some parents that do raise their children very soft,
38:45you know, and sometimes just a still talk into that child,
38:50be it by a teacher or be it by a pupil,
38:53they see that as bullying, you know.
38:56How do we address that?
38:58Because, you know, as I said, it is relative.
39:01So what one person may take as advice or as criticism,
39:06the next person may take it as bullying and go home and tell the parents,
39:09oh, this teacher bullied me, things like that.
39:11So with the police there, can we address that, please? Thank you.
39:15Excellent comment and question, caller.
39:19Bullying is not...
39:22We have become so sensitive as a society, as you rightfully said,
39:25and most things we do are seen as bullying, right?
39:28But bullying is not just me giving you a pick-on, right?
39:31If I were to tell you something, you know, Mark,
39:34and say, Mark, your head big, for example,
39:39and we laugh at it, and then you tell me something back,
39:43and I proceed to want to lock you up for it, that is bullying,
39:46because what I have done is shifted the balance of power in my favor,
39:50me having a power of arrest,
39:52to deter you from doing exactly what I did.
39:57So bullying really speaks of an imbalance in power.
40:00And this is what we explain to the children.
40:02There is nothing wrong in my humble opinion,
40:04but children have been giving each other talks since we were small,
40:07which is many moons ago, right?
40:10And it will continue.
40:12But there must be a balance in power,
40:14in that if I tell you your head big,
40:17you should be free to let me know my head is bigger.
40:19Without there being any violence or any recourse, right?
40:23And therein is where the bullying takes place.
40:26I certainly hope that answers your question, Kola.
40:30We're going to take a short break, and we'll be back.
40:32Stay with us.
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42:59Welcome to Beyond the Tape.
43:01I'm Mark Bassan, of course, joined today by Acting Sergeant Greenidge
43:05from the Community Policing Unit and the Arupun Police Youth Club.
43:09Perfect.
43:10Got it correct this time.
43:11Perfect.
43:12So I know there is some competition coming up,
43:14and you want to give us an insight into that now?
43:16Yes.
43:17One of the key components we utilize in the community
43:19or in the policing section is, in fact, a trend called CEPTED,
43:23C-P-T-E-D, Crime Prevention Through Environmental Design.
43:27It simply speaks of displacing the criminals
43:31by beautifying the environment to such an extent
43:34that it's no longer attractive to them.
43:37If you look at the place where crime prevails
43:40or where we do the peddling of narcotics and so on,
43:43they're usually dark, they're dirty, they're dismal,
43:46they're not attractive for the law-abiding citizens.
43:50So for them to get rid of the chickens, they have to mash up the coop,
43:54as the old people would say.
43:56So in order to do so, we want to make it well lit,
44:01well planted, well groomed, and so on.
44:04We find that more people will desire to occupy it,
44:07thereby creating witnesses, even if the criminals decide to utilize it.
44:11And you know they like their privacy.
44:13And this is, of course, where is it exactly?
44:15We have, in fact, partnered with one of the companies
44:18under the Housing Development Corporation, FEMCOL,
44:21who has brought in the CEPTED initiative,
44:25and they are now having a competition
44:28with all the agency developments nationwide
44:35to have a competition for the residents
44:38to beautify their communities for Christmas.
44:41And they have some beautiful prizes, nice prizes,
44:44for the community that wins.
44:46So it speaks of not just the police officers
44:49taking responsibility for the communities
44:52in terms of CEPTED projects,
44:54but now we are partnering with the residents within the communities
44:57to beautify them, uplift them,
44:59and, of course, FEMCOL would be there to judge.
45:03Right? It is win-win,
45:05because at the end of the day,
45:07places in the community that was once a sanctuary for criminality
45:12would now be beautiful, would now be cleared up,
45:15and it would impact, of course,
45:17the amount of crime and criminality we see in specific areas.
45:20Certainly a very nice thing.
45:22Right, so Ms. Karen Robley and Ms. Bailey from FEMCOL
45:26are two of the persons who are taking the lead in that,
45:30and we really, really want to thank them,
45:32as well as Mr. Radcliffe Boxall,
45:34for the stance they have taken in terms of enhancing the quality of life
45:39in these agency developments.
45:41That's a really nice gesture.
45:43And, of course, if the prizes have to do with anything but food,
45:46you know, let us know, please.
45:49All right, so we want to switch gears.
45:51Oh, we do have a caller on the line.
45:53Caller, good evening.
45:55I think we may have lost the caller. I apologize.
45:58So we just want to switch gears here to this video quickly
46:01on apparent arrest by police officers somewhere in Trinidad and Tobago.
46:13It seems I might be near a marketplace of some sort,
46:19and I'm told by our producer that it is allegedly an individual
46:23that is being, according to the comments from the people in the video,
46:29that the person is most likely disabled.
46:32And I'm sure you would like to give us some protocol
46:35when it involves a disabled person,
46:37if you have to arrest a disabled person.
46:39Well, Stefan, there's really much of a protocol.
46:43It depends on the offense committed.
46:45And, of course, there will be extra care in terms of escort,
46:49you know, transporting the person.
46:51This is not to say that persons who are disabled
46:55are incapable of committing offense of dole, anger, facts.
46:58My experience, I've taken Nicola Ogata,
47:01where there was a guy with a prostrated leg
47:04who was hiding a firearm in the leg.
47:07Right, so at the end of the day,
47:10it is unfortunate that we see these videos
47:13right smack in the middle of the arrest,
47:16and we don't usually see what would have led up to the situation.
47:19Right, I'm not taking anybody's defense,
47:22but it's very difficult to determine what was taking place
47:25from what we are seeing here.
47:27And certainly, officers sometimes have to deal with these situations
47:32where people are right up in their faces.
47:34Correct.
47:35And I know as a citizen, you have a particular right,
47:38but you also cannot obstruct officers.
47:41In the lawful execution of our duties.
47:43Exactly.
47:44Yes.
47:45I'm not trying to take sides.
47:46I'm not defending, but it's very difficult to decide
47:49as to what would have taken place without information
47:52as to what would have taken place prior to the arrest.
47:55Exactly.
47:56We have a call on the line.
47:57Caller, good evening.
47:59Good evening, gentlemen.
48:01Good evening.
48:02Question to the officer.
48:04Do you have a police youth club in the Williamsville area?
48:08Williamsville?
48:10Yes.
48:12Yes, there is.
48:15Close to Williamsville.
48:18I'm trying to remember the name of the club,
48:21but Superintendent Ramkeelawan.
48:23I don't know if you know the name.
48:24Subash Ramkeelawan.
48:26Okay.
48:27Do you have a contact number?
48:29Sure, but the challenge is how do I get it to you?
48:34Caller can take my number and probably communicate with me thereafter.
48:38So the producer will take your number,
48:40call her off here, and Acting Sergeant Greenidge will get it.
48:44It's the Whiteland Police Youth Club.
48:47Caller?
48:50It's the Whiteland Police Youth Club.
48:53Okay.
48:54And the leader there is Superintendent Subash Ramkeelawan.
48:58Okay.
48:59Thank you very much.
49:01No problem.
49:02You're most welcome.
49:04So I guess people are always interested in youth clubs across the country,
49:11and sometimes I don't know how many of them that you all have
49:13because I don't think a lot of people know what this club is called.
49:17I think presently we have 96 active clubs nationwide,
49:22and we are really, really trying.
49:23I know that, again, the Housing Development Corporation
49:26has bought into the youth club phenomenon
49:29after seeing the impact it is having in their developments.
49:32So they are seeking increasing numbers as well.
49:37So we are asking police officers, citizens,
49:40who are desirous of assisting in the club,
49:43finding the nearest club in the community, in the area,
49:45and really give that support to our youth.
49:48If we were able to fix the problem with the Youth Step Fund,
49:50we would have much better adult citizens,
49:57so we need to invest in our youth
49:59because we really want to impact long-term change in our country.
50:02Okay, most definitely.
50:04We're going to take a short break and we'll be back.
50:06Stay with us.
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52:18Welcome back to Beyond the Tape.
52:41I'm your host, Marc Bessand.
52:42You're joined today by Acting Sergeant Greenish
52:44from the Community Policing Unit and the Urupun Police Youth Club.
52:47I got it correct?
52:48Yes, perfect.
52:49And I do believe we have a caller on the line.
52:51Caller, good evening.
52:53Hi, good day.
52:54Good day.
52:55Good evening.
52:56The thing about talking on your cell phone,
53:00if you're posted on the side of the road,
53:02are you going to explain to me why is it dangerous to anybody
53:06for them to be on their cell phone if they're in a park
53:09and they're on the side of the road
53:10but don't want to switch off their car
53:11because it's kind of dangerous.
53:14If somebody comes up to your car
53:16and you need to leave immediately, you know, you could leave.
53:20The next thing, the other day you all were talking about
53:25driving on the right side of the road, which is the passing lane.
53:28I just wanted to remind you all that.
53:32I meant from Arima up to St. Augustine,
53:35that there are right exits on the highway,
53:39so you'll have to go on the right lane to slow down to exit.
53:44One more thing.
53:45Is it against the law for members of the public to use
53:51and acquire a bulletproof vest?
53:56Three questions.
53:57Go.
53:58Three difficult questions.
53:59With respect to the laws that speaks to the use of handheld device,
54:08I am not clear at this time.
54:10I do not want to speak out of turn.
54:12But I can do the research and get the information back to you, Mark.
54:15I know when it comes to vehicle being in motion,
54:19that the law is clear and specific, and the dangers are understood.
54:23But with regards to pulling on the side,
54:25I will have to get research on that.
54:28The next question was using the right lane.
54:31Yes.
54:32The right lane is, in fact, for overtaking.
54:35The laws of our land indicate that we keep left except when overtaking.
54:41Yes, we have tributaries on our road that merge right.
54:46But I don't expect you to be turning right in Piako
54:50and being on the right side of the road from Makoya.
54:53Yes, correct.
54:54And a lot of us do that.
54:56And then we tend to want to say we're turning right quite a bit.
54:59In everything we do, there must be discretion.
55:02And as such, if you're turning right in Piako,
55:06you sort of veer right when you reach about Twin City,
55:09even closer than actually being on the right lane straight up the road.
55:13That would not be acceptable by the courts.
55:16It would not be acceptable by the law.
55:19You said it was bulletproof vests.
55:21Right, bulletproof vests.
55:23Bulletproof vests are concerned, to the best of my knowledge,
55:26it must be the whole of a farm user's license
55:29in which to own ballistic material or purchase ballistic material.
55:35Well, even if you're not a police officer,
55:37I know if you're using it to do a crime,
55:40there's a difference if somebody wants to be protected
55:43because they feel a threat.
55:44Right, but it must be the whole of a FUL or FEC.
55:47To the best of my knowledge, I could be wrong.
55:49To purchase bulletproof vests, rubber bulletproof vests.
55:52All right, well, I hope.
55:54But again, I will do the research.
55:57Yes, double-check some of these things that the caller asked.
55:59Excellent questions, caller.
56:01You have taken me back to school,
56:04learned some of my statutes, and I really appreciate that.
56:07All right, so don't forget, we run tonight at 11 theatre.
56:15Well, my producer is saying we have 10 seconds.
56:18Anything else you want to add before we close?
56:21So again, I'm asking the entire citizenry, partner with us.
56:26We need to really put a bite on this situation,
56:29put a bite on this crime situation we see scourging our land.
56:32Thank you all.
56:33Thank you for having me, Mark.
56:34You're most welcome.
56:35We run tonight at 11 theatre.
56:37Tomorrow, repeat at 11 o'clock.
56:39The TV6 News is up next.
56:41Stay with us.
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