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02:03Good evening Trinidad and Tobago and welcome to beyond the tape. My name is with me husbands and we welcome you
02:08do you think that a lot of the
02:11citizens throughout Trinidad and Tobago
02:12Especially the business owners are taking initiatives and implementing things
02:17Where it comes to combating the crime that they have faced with on a daily basis on what they are saying
02:23They are putting their own strategies and initiatives in place to protect themselves
02:28The reason why I'm saying that you will see it later into the show where self-imposed curfews are being implemented in certain parts of Trinidad
02:36Also, we are noticing that the borrow a remote borrow day is going to be
02:42Cancelled because of the crime situation and we see other business owners taking other initiatives to protect themselves. It's this day
02:49So with us this evening, we like to welcome at an ASP pit from the northern north division here with us this evening
02:55How are you? So not too bad. There's an evening with me. There's an image on the vehicle
02:59You look up. Yeah, I don't know if you're arrested a little bit. Yeah, which is good
03:03Because I know if everyone's eyes are on the TTPS right now
03:09From bloody weekends to the gang violence and
03:13Home invasions are on a increase now that for what I'm saying, I'm not going with statistics
03:18But from what we observe it is getting worse
03:21and I know that members of the TTPS they're trying their hardest to figure out how to
03:27Find a way to deal with the situations at hand
03:31You want to really a passionate about this and I know y'all are getting sleepless nights
03:35Of course we have undertaken several steps
03:40Some of which has been well received by members of the public
03:44others that have not
03:47Been received with that open arms that would expect and we would love and we would appreciate but we understand that
03:53It's because at times persons are inconvenience
03:57We would try our best as an organization to minimize that
04:01Sometimes it's beyond us. It's beyond our control
04:04Regarding whatever approach you mean we may need to adopt
04:08but we
04:10understand because we are also part of the
04:13Communities we are also part of the the populace of China and Tobago and for that reason, you know
04:20We always ask that
04:21Persons lend whatever support in whatever way it could be just that you know
04:28The
04:29Information they see something say something be taking the steps as you rightfully mentioned in order to make yourself a harder target
04:37There are so many ways that we could
04:39Assist regarding our own position our own situation our own circumstance
04:45And it could extend to the family. It could extend to the community
04:49It could extend to the workplace and and you know for that reason with that type of participation
04:54We believe that we would be able to manage the situation that we experience
04:58So let's head into your division a little bit
05:00Yes
05:00And I as I mentioned when I opened the show with the cancellation of the Arima borrowed a and his worship
05:06Basically stating yes
05:07He spoke to the officers and the officers did say they were able to deal with the festivities
05:12On the said well the days that they lead up to the actual board big
05:18celebration, but they took the
05:21initiative to protect the
05:23Citizens in the set ball and I need to know any thoughts on that decision made by his worship
05:29And I know that he mentioned that the TTPS was capable to deal with it
05:33but he was more concerned about the citizens of course and
05:37Our understanding is just that it was the juve component. That's the part that is going to be okay. I'm sorry
05:43Yeah, so the borrowed a will still exist and all the other activities that usually complements
05:50borrowed a would exist
05:53But you are you are correct in that
05:56Decisions are being made and in this case. It's clear to see
06:00Regarding what we are experiencing the crime situation that we are experiencing now. I can speak for a remand. I can tell you that
06:08Regarding the statistics in Arima. We are not doing bad as a division
06:12We have been able to manage because Arima is one of the top station districts in the country regarding regarding
06:19Violent crime and other forms of criminality
06:21We have invested a lot of resources into Arima and for that reason it is being dividends
06:27However in recent weeks, we have been seeing some some I don't want to use the word upsurge
06:33it may be too strong, but we have been seeing some acts of violence that
06:39Although it is not in comparison to where we will last year
06:42It is still significant enough for us to make the necessary decisions and we are glad that
06:48his worship was able to
06:51Understand that and with the discussion with the other persons part of his team and you know Burgesses of Arima
06:59They made a decision and we welcome it because it tells us that you know
07:04persons are looking in and they are aware that there are decisions that we ought to make as a
07:11Public in order to secure our safety and security so many criminal elements that you mentioned that is so trickling
07:17Back into your division. Is it that it's persons who reside there or is it outsiders?
07:22But we're seeing more and more persons are making their way. Yeah, it's a different division migration
07:28They may not even be living there, but they commit any crimes and then going back to their base
07:32Yes, well, we have a combination of both in the Arima district there that
07:39Incidents where persons would come in and there are other incidents that are localized and they involve persons within
07:46That very space so it's not a case where the persons
07:51Generally from outside who come in and do things
07:54It's a combination. Okay. Yeah. All right at this time. Let's take a look at today's headlines
08:15You
08:45You
09:16And
09:18We are back a lot to talk about and it's every day every it's not one day
09:24We will come and say well, it seems like we've seen things being you know a bit calm
09:30It's always something happening in Trinidad and Tobago and I know that the TPS is trying their hardest
09:37So we're going straight into it some of the headlines that we saw here
09:40We'll go straight into a shooting that took place last evening in the San Fernando area
09:46So
09:56So, I know in this case this is under investigation, yeah
10:00So again, we would ask persons anyone with information
10:04Please contact the nearest police station five five five eight hundred tips
10:09So that we could bring persons who are responsible
10:13for this act to account
10:16And
10:19So this is a victim going to the vehicle here, yes
10:26And we have recognized
10:28With me that a lot of these incidents involve motor vehicles
10:33Motor vehicles in that the persons who carry all these apps
10:37Use motor vehicles in order to bring them to the location and in order to leave the location. So
10:44It's for that reason that amongst our strategies
10:47It's that of the road activities, you know exercises so that we could be able to
10:54Intercept and respond appropriately when incidents like this happen. Yeah, no
10:59No, what do you in in this situation here in particular? Yeah, we don't know. What was the reason this could be gang-related
11:07We're not sure but what are you seeing and observing with your
11:12Experience and exposure to what is going on to see persons being gunned down like that without anything being taken
11:19from them
11:21What causes people to get in that position from your experience? Well the if
11:28We observe that nothing was taken
11:30then
11:32We would assume that the intention of the persons were to kill
11:38To cause serious harm and it's not a case of they come in to steal anything or
11:45You know
11:47Anything of that nature regarding wanting your vehicle wanting your cash wanting your jewelry
11:51It's more or less where these persons were targeting you and they were targeting you for a specific purpose
11:57so yes, the manner in which these crimes occur it tells a story and
12:02It based on piecing it together it tends to lend in terms of what the motive was
12:08Okay. All right. Now I have to commend
12:12This woman and mother in this next of course incident that took place with her son many times you will hear
12:20situations where the
12:23Mother will pick up for their sons and say my son is not involved in anything. I don't know what you're talking about
12:29He's a good boy doesn't interfere with anyone
12:31But when you have to stand ground to make sure that your child understands the consequences of the actions
12:37This is what happened. Now a woman hands over her son to the police for stealing
12:44so a
12:45Reasonable mother handed over her teenage son to the police last night after she suspected
12:50He was involved in a house breaking and lastly incident in the Davadi district
12:55A female victim reported to police that around 7 a.m. On Wednesday the 24th of July 2024
13:02She secured her Maloney Gardens Davadi home and went away. She claims when she returned around 4 30 p.m
13:08On the same date
13:09She observed the back door to her house open and several items clothing belongings to her son missing
13:17Around 11 25 p.m
13:18A woman contacted the Maloney police station and informed the officers that she observed her son is in possession of clothing
13:26She did not purchase for him
13:28The sixteen-year-old boy was subsequently arrested by officers and taken to the station along with the stolen items
13:34There the victim and her son positive positively identified the clothing which was taken from their home
13:42Investigations are ongoing
13:45Now it doesn't mean that the mother doesn't care I think she cares a lot she cares a lot she cares a lot because
13:52Starting off with something like this
13:55Could transition into something worse, of course, even worse, which we have seen
13:59Yes
13:59And something as small as or just taking clothes and you didn't hold up anybody with anything
14:04If I got away with it and my mom protected me I
14:08Could continue exactly and you said something there and it's very very critical consequence
14:15consequence for action and we need to teach our children consequence for action and
14:22Consequence is not
14:24Limited to just when things are negative, but also, you know when things are positive we talk about positive reinforcement and all these things
14:31So it is a very very important and hats off to her. This could not have been an easy decision
14:37But she took this step. She took that step
14:40That's a lot of courage I'm not going to say that I'm sure that was breaking her heart
14:44Yes
14:45for her son to go through some at 16 years old you could put yourself in a situation if someone was home with a firearm and
14:51Then they shot at this young man
14:53And he's dead exactly then what exactly and it's a bigger picture
14:58Yeah, and you know having made that step. I'm certain that a necessary support factors
15:06Will be readily available
15:08In the event of counseling and in order to assist I'm managing that that child so that
15:15She has opened up an avenue there for good things to come notwithstanding. It came out of something negative
15:22Because that could be a form of community service for this young man that he could give back to the community and understand
15:28He mistake that he or mistakes. He has been making. Yes to better himself
15:33Not just throw him in a cell and lock the key and that's it. We don't want that at all
15:38Yeah, all right. We need to take a break when we come back. We'll continue with more
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17:04That is not my ball
17:08And
17:16We are back if you're not joining us we welcome you to be on the tape with me we have
17:21ESP
17:22acting ESP
17:26And we have a caller on the line so let's head to that call at this time hello good evening
17:37Congratulate that lady what she did because I had a son, but he's passed now
17:45And he started to give me trouble at the age of 18 years older and I was from around a lot of
17:54Family police family friends and whatnot and whatnot and to every time he misbehave
17:59I will go to the police and they will warn him and tell him you know
18:04Your mother working in ministry of health and this and that you're going to make him other shame and embarrassment and only for nothing
18:10He used to be here
18:13Once and he go and not again, and when I talked to him about this
18:17He tell me that I only put him out on him, and I am only crying down people children
18:24And what not and I said okay?
18:26I
18:56Don't know if young persons even when I was at that stage here my parents say you know
19:02When I wanted to do things, and I was so headstrong doing something and I'm doing it my way
19:07Not understanding that if anything happens to you how it affects
19:12Your parents and your loved ones
19:14I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but I'm sorry
19:16I'm sorry, but I'm sorry, but I'm sorry, but I'm sorry
19:20I'm sorry, but I'm sorry, but I'm sorry, but I'm sorry
19:24Your parents and your loved ones and people who care about you because we be we are being so selfish in
19:30What I want to do right now, and what I feel like doing and you can't tell me what to do
19:34and then
19:36You know that is why it is important that the parents
19:41family and the community
19:44rejects that type of behavior because if they are rejecting that type of behavior then
19:50it
19:51the individual me
19:54Some stage acts. I wonder how this is affecting them to the contrary if it is that
20:02the parents the family by extension the community
20:06accepts that type of behavior then the individual feels more confident and empowered to go ahead and do
20:14Something that is wrong because from the subculture it is right
20:20You have another call. Let's take that call hello good evening
20:24Good evening
20:30If you are dealing with and the mother it took a lot of courage
20:36for me
20:38right now the
20:40Instance to see if we have a restorative you justice approach now in this young boy 16
20:46Right if it is full of friends or put an act in court, and there's no issue of deviance or delinquency
20:53Here's where now we have to use what we call in a sort of justice
20:58like general
21:01He is convicted
21:04I'm editing the court and the sentence by the two years or three years of ytc
21:09We can see this young man on our side. I don't call a diversion program
21:14But then that done put them on that provision
21:18Reparative program like different change
21:31Between the next two or three years
21:34You no longer put this young man, but it has to be done with the consent of the victim
21:41and the
21:42Justice found when it caught in the light. This is what they call
21:46Diversion program restorative justice
21:49Reparative program the probation can do different age within a nine-month program and with supervision and support the mother
21:58Yes, what you call restorative justice?
22:00Yeah, like we just program you justice estate
22:10I'm a suggestion, but it's still up to the court
22:14Yes
22:17Thank you, sir
22:19No excellent tremendous. We know that
22:22Restorative justice is an approach that is being utilized internationally
22:28To the extent that it has brought a tremendous amount of positives regarding
22:34offenders, you know, it's about restoring relationships because one of the
22:40The
22:41Thinking or the thought process behind restorative justice is the fact that you want to restore the relationships when a crime happens
22:48it affects the relationship between the
22:53persons in the community because someone in the community may have been impacted and
22:57It's not how are you going to go beyond the incident?
23:02utilizing a sufficient amount of
23:05Consequence if you should call it that in order to get the person out to understand the wrong that it did
23:12And to accept the wrong that it did and to have no the victim
23:17the other position where he or she accepts yes, I
23:21Forgive you or you know, I accept that you have wronged and now you are willing to change a new leaf
23:27so it is a philosophy that
23:30It continues to grow it continues to expand I can tell you that
23:35There are a lot of persons who are not
23:37Necessarily supportive of it. They are more supportive of the retributive style
23:43You know already key punitive, but but it could be that we can apply some sort of balance
23:52because I
23:54You know would agree that there are persons who might be better served under the retributive process
24:00Then there are other persons where the restorative approach might be best
24:04Yeah, we have another call. Let's take that call. Hello. Good evening
24:09Hello good evening
24:15Hello
24:17All right, that's
24:19Until we get that caller back on the line. There was a situation that took place in the western side
24:27which is not in your division, which was
24:29very um
24:30Disturbing and interesting at the same time. I don't know if I could fit those two comparisons together those words to compare
24:36Yes, the reason why I'm saying that because bandits stole an SUV and told the driver
24:42He will get it back because he had to go and put on her walk
24:47What what what is really
24:49Happening here. I'm not talking about he didn't return the vehicle
24:52Eh, yeah for you to be so brave to the point where you letting them know
24:56Don't worry. It's not that serious. Yeah, that's not the portal. I walk on by maybe a week's time. I might find a car basically. Yeah
25:04What am I supposed to do at this point? This is this is ridiculous. Yeah
25:08And you have said that the person is confident and comfortable saying I just gonna put on our yeah
25:14Yeah, so you supposed to be okay. I suppose I understand guys. What's on the Sun?
25:17Yeah, and it took my phone because he needed to make a call now. Yeah
25:20Yeah, I try it is disturbing and weird it is disturbing it is disturbing but again
25:28There are persons who are accepting of that type of behavior and it's not limited to the family
25:34There's an extension of persons who accept that type of behavior and in the minds of persons who grow into that type of environment
25:42It is okay. Yeah, it is. Okay. It's norm and people I think don't understand that we have a call
25:48Let's take that call
25:59Hello good evening
26:04Okay, all right, so how could we before well, I think we have to go to break
26:08So let's go to break and when we come back
26:10I will dive into the norm of certain communities and how are you all dealing with that? Okay, we'll be back
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27:41And we are back now
27:43Before we went to the break. We were speaking about the norms of different communities throughout Trinidad and Tobago
27:48And I think many prisons may be naive sometimes or maybe living under a rock because the things that we consider
27:56Normal or the norm of society as what is right and what is wrong?
28:00Yes, you will be surprised when you go in some of these communities. They see it as the reverse
28:07Yes
28:08and the
28:09Entitlement issue that is always there and they believe that it's only persons who were born with a goldspoon fields entitled
28:16but I
28:17Have going to let you know that's not the case. Of course, and we are aware of that
28:21Yes, so how are you treating with because that is like rewiring someone's mind, you know to
28:27Understand what you're doing is wrong, but really and truly I saw all my life growing up
28:33Persons around me my family members doing exactly what I'm doing now, and it was okay
28:38They were surviving so you could come and tell me what I'm doing is wrong. Yeah
28:43and that explains the dynamics of crime in that
28:48Different communities you may need a different approach
28:53Regarding how you treat or manage a crime situation there. So
28:58We have spoken to our youth groups our youth clubs and other forms of intervention
29:04That might be necessary in order to place the younger minds in a good place
29:10going forward
29:11But what about when they leave that environment now and they have to go back into their regular environment and that regular environment
29:19Does not offer in the type of guidance that the wider society expects. They don't they don't
29:26subscribe to the
29:28General norms of what is right and what is wrong and that would take a lot. It is difficult to
29:35only be managed from a policing perspective because largely our
29:40Methods of treating with things outside of what I mentioned in terms of our
29:44Community policing approach our youth club approach and so on and so forth is that when persons offend, you know, we hold them to account
29:52Place them before the courts and the court adjudicates
29:55But then what is really the root cause what is the root issue and we can say though that
30:02Administrations
30:04Have had some sort of intervention at times where true social groups
30:10External to the police service have been on board. They have collaborated
30:15with us in terms of
30:17Utilizing what we may call a multi-pronged approach in treating with certain communities. There has been some
30:24measures of success
30:27But it's something that
30:29may not be as widespread as we would like because you would appreciate the fact that it involves a significant amount of resources and a
30:36significant amount of dedication
30:39because there are persons who would come into the program if we should call it that and
30:43They may not always be success stories. There would be persons who would
30:49Go back to what they believe is right and the default mode if they should call it that
30:56But it ought to be a sustained effort. It ought to be a sustained effort regarding law enforcement
31:04the different
31:05social groups
31:07non-governmental governmental
31:09In order to get the different types of intervention that is necessary in order to change the mindset of persons
31:16So we have the society more or less operating at a standard where the norms are the norms of the societies
31:22You will always have the subcultures
31:24But in order for us to be successful they have to be managed and in order to manage it
31:29They ought to be minimized. Because radical thinking is something that could be hard to
31:35Rewire at times. Of course, for various reasons. We have a call. I don't want to call a waiting. So let's take that call
31:41Hello, good evening
31:47Good evening, sir
31:49a little bit
31:51People naive and it's so funny that I've been asking a few parents that I know
31:59The kids love to look at news at 7 p.m. And most of them say no, that's a long time thing
32:06But if you notice there's a reoccurrence of the same thing happening over and over somebody goes to buy a car to get up
32:13When he could
32:15Get up this won't get you down get you but it's the same thing happening over and over again. I like people just naive or
32:24Just take it easy. Don't look at the news. If you don't know the things that are going on
32:28They're not, they're just complacent and still moving crazy out there
32:34You know, and I've heard people talk about that and I just say, you know what, let me just call the police
32:41I don't know where we can get all that energy
32:45in the morning and evening
32:47Right, but have a blessed day
32:49Thank you
32:51So back to what he was saying because I wanted to touch on a point is that also us as citizens
32:56who may not live in some of these areas that the
33:00culture is something that we are not
33:03accustomed to or aware of
33:06We have to stop labeling them also and the judgment because it also gives that extra weight of
33:15You see how society is not on us and when you hear comments where people say they should bomb this area
33:20and get rid of all these people in that area because of what they deem
33:25the majority of the people in that community is doing and that's not really the case
33:30And they are still human beings, it's just everyone including myself and yourself
33:35We grew up in different communities and backgrounds and upbringing
33:39So our thinking and we know the basics of what is right and what is wrong
33:44and how we have to live in society because that's why we have the laws of the land
33:48But many times we fail to take ourselves out of our situation
33:53The comfort that we already know
33:55And if we place ourselves in their situation, what would we do?
34:00And how would we live?
34:02How would we operate?
34:04It's only until persons really see what they live and go through
34:08I don't think anyone would want to choose to live in a community
34:12which I hate to say all the time, a hotspot
34:15Because they have human beings who are living there who are hardworking people
34:19But they still label them, oh you're in the so and so area, you're a criminal, sure
34:24You're involved in something, you're sure?
34:27Don't trust that person because you see where they live and you don't know they might put you up
34:32And that's sad
34:34It is, it is
34:40You said it rightly, persons have different upbringings, different backgrounds
34:46Different educational backgrounds
34:50And for that reason they would behave differently
34:53And we need to understand that as a society
34:57And not look down upon persons, talk down to persons
35:02But be able now to manage the situation in a way that we get all persons to understand
35:10their levels of responsibility, to understand what is socially acceptable and what is not
35:17We will not reach everyone, that is impossible
35:21There is no country on the planet that can boast that amongst their population
35:26there are persons who are deviant in behaviour and so on and so forth
35:30That will happen
35:32But it is important that we get persons to that level and to that understanding
35:38I don't want to say level in a way to mean that they are not at that level
35:41I know what you mean
35:43We look at intelligence only from the perspective of academics
35:47So you are certified and for that reason you can now be deemed intelligent
35:51You breathe a different air
35:53You breathe a different air, but it's so succinctly
35:56It's different
35:58Yes, but you would be surprised that persons who may deem themselves intelligent
36:05and who we would accept as intelligent based on their academic accolades
36:10will be placed in an environment and at that point in time
36:16they will recognize how much intelligence they lack
36:20because the environment in itself is one that you need to have a different type of skill set
36:27in order to survive
36:29So that is the need and the importance of research
36:35to understand a lot of things that are not easily understood on the surface
36:41So we need to dig a bit deeper and have a research base
36:45so that the data now will drive our decision making
36:48regarding persons who may not necessarily think the way we do
36:53Persons who did not have the type of background that might be conducive
36:57to being a productive member of society
37:02One that we could be proud of and so on and so forth
37:05So it could be that some persons, based on their circumstance
37:09starts off at a disadvantage
37:13We have persons in society that definitely start off at a disadvantage
37:17but what could we do to assist them?
37:19I think the first stage is, we always say home is the place where everything is
37:24where the rules are and the first stage of interaction
37:28which will be with your parents or siblings or whoever lives there
37:31But then when they go to the schools
37:33which will be from if they could afford the pre or let's just go to primary
37:36Why can't we start instilling those morals and values
37:40and the societal norms within the schools from early
37:44where we give the balance of not just academics as you said
37:47for the certification but also giving life skills
37:51for them to understand that these are things that you will be exposed to
37:55something as simple as eating with a knife and fork
37:58Some parents say, my child, we have a knife and fork
38:00we can eat with but no, it is opening the child's mind
38:03and then when I come home, we learn every day
38:06we still learn every day
38:07but this is a stage of letting the child say
38:10wait, I didn't know we didn't have this home
38:12but this is an experience and you go home and you can give them things
38:15and all this is a start, it can go on and on
38:18but as you said, each community we need to know how to work with it
38:21and find a proper blueprint to move forward
38:23When we come back though, because we have to take a break
38:25we need to talk about online issues that we are still faced with
38:28and persons are not taking heed
38:30you need to understand how important this is
38:32We'll be back
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40:24Alright
40:25If you're joining us, we welcome you once again
40:27We have acting ASP Pitt from the Northern North Division
40:30here with us this evening
40:32and before we went to the break
40:34we dived straight into some of the highlights
40:36of this evening's show
40:38Let's take a look at some of the highlights
40:40of this evening's show
40:42Let's take a look at some of the highlights
40:44of this evening's show
40:47and before we went to the break
40:48we dived straight into
40:50the discussion of persons being defrauded online
40:53and it's something that we see time and time again
40:55it is something that we speak until we blue
40:58especially on the show
41:00for persons to understand
41:01please don't get caught in the web
41:04and it's from dating
41:06and it's not just females getting caught
41:08but men are also getting caught
41:10where you'd be interested in a female
41:12they show you a picture
41:13or a man shows you a picture
41:14and you get excited
41:15because I haven't had a man in 10 years
41:17so this feels good
41:18the attention that I'm receiving
41:20and you know, he's listening
41:22or she's listening to everything I'm saying
41:25and it feels so good
41:27you tell your friend
41:28I want to be the person you know
41:29they send you a few little pictures
41:31and you get caught up
41:33something happened, an emergency
41:34I need your help
41:35and you're thinking
41:36as you love your life
41:37because you'll express everything
41:39and more about each other
41:41you let them rule you
41:43she's stressed on that part
41:44she's listening
41:47no, I'm just saying
41:48because you remember
41:49they're manipulating the person
41:50on the other side
41:51yes
41:52and then they're buying items
41:54yeah
41:55to sell
41:56so what can we do again
41:58for persons who are getting caught
42:00working with thousands of dollars
42:01to purchase a vehicle
42:03yeah
42:04the sad reality is that
42:06there are persons who are not taking heed
42:09and the caller said
42:11he used the word naive
42:13it could be that some persons are naive
42:16it could be that
42:18as a consequence of not
42:20making ourselves accurate
42:22with what is happening in our space
42:24through the traditional media
42:27newspapers
42:29and even with that
42:30you have to be careful
42:31of scammers
42:32they'll print meaning
42:33if they're going classified
42:35you have to really
42:36take your time
42:38but generally be in a way
42:39as to what is going on
42:40going on, yeah
42:41not necessarily from the
42:43the classified
42:44oh, you mean in general
42:45what is happening in general
42:46in society, ok
42:47so you can read
42:48and we can learn
42:49from other persons' mistakes
42:51there are so many persons
42:52who are being tricked
42:53they are being defrauded
42:55based on
42:56going on
42:57social media platforms
42:59and
43:00wanting to benefit
43:02from deals
43:05right now as we speak
43:06there's a person who's injured
43:08seriously injured
43:09and
43:10pray to God that
43:12she'll recover
43:13and she'll recover fully
43:15you know
43:16having been exposed
43:17to a situation like that
43:19and again we are not
43:20victim blaming
43:21we cannot victim blame
43:22but we would want to learn
43:24from the experiences of others
43:27please
43:28please
43:29we are
43:30beseeching
43:32please
43:35exercise
43:36extra
43:37extra
43:38diligence
43:39when we are
43:40embarking on this type
43:42of
43:43arrangements
43:45with persons we have never met before
43:47we have never seen them in our life before
43:50we don't know what type of character
43:52they possess
43:53they would lure us into areas
43:56that
43:57we don't know about
43:58we are unfamiliar with
44:00and for that reason
44:01we become vulnerable
44:03and we are placed in a situation
44:04where our safety and security
44:06is compromised
44:07not just our property
44:09but our safety and our security
44:11is compromised
44:13I can recall
44:14a couple of programs ago
44:16we spoke of
44:17you know
44:18safe spaces
44:19if you believe that you want to go into such an arrangement
44:23you can go to a safe space
44:25and we spoke about police stations
44:27persons spoke about
44:28licensing office
44:29and you know
44:30there are safe spaces within
44:32our environment
44:34that we can go to
44:35in order to preserve
44:37our safety
44:38our security
44:39and by extension
44:40our property
44:41but it is becoming very
44:43pervasive
44:44it is becoming very worrying
44:46especially
44:48when you look at the fact that it is being
44:51ventilated publicly
44:53continuously
44:55because we have seen
44:57through again
44:59traditional media
45:00where persons went to
45:02Port of Spain
45:03and different areas
45:04and they had to meet this one or that one
45:06and they were given envelopes
45:08that had nothing in it
45:10on completion of the transaction
45:12and the person went away
45:14with their valuable
45:15and all these things
45:16it's there
45:17it's clear
45:18it's visible
45:19we need to use
45:20that type of information
45:22that is coming out
45:23the news
45:24we need to use it to our advantage
45:26in order to guide our decision making
45:27and just know
45:28if you give up $26,000
45:30it's best you go to the bank
45:31and you get like
45:3220% off
45:33and you get a car
45:34that's reasonable
45:35and you're safe
45:36we have a call on the line
45:37hello, good evening
45:40Good evening
45:41this is Steve
45:43you know
45:44Mr. Fink
45:45yes sir, good evening
45:46the fact is that
45:47when you have all these
45:48things that occur
45:49and people talk about
45:51cutting the police sector
45:52look at the latest example
45:54where the people who filed a form
45:56for a little high-collar
45:57like for an hour
45:58in their parking lot
45:59was cutting someone's car
46:01I mean
46:02look where they left from
46:03they left from deep south
46:04and go to that area
46:05that they don't know about
46:06alright
46:07so why stay on your way
46:08when you're coming from
46:09the police
46:10you could
46:11you could
46:12you have the police number
46:13you could call
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50:49And we are back.
50:52You could respond to the caller with the car seat situation.
50:55Yes.
50:56So caller, you are correct.
50:58I'll start with what you mentioned about persons, again, accepting that level of responsibility regarding all these incidents that are happening, social media based.
51:12And we were discussing warfare.
51:14What more could we do?
51:17It's about us now asking members of the public, all those who have the information, to pass it on to your neighbor, pass it on to your friend, pass it on to your family member, so that everyone will now have that information and become more sensitized.
51:31We will do as much as we could do from a TTP standpoint.
51:36I know there are a lot of walkabouts that are taking place, community-based walkabouts, where we would pass around with flyers and we are giving tips.
51:45And we are informing persons about all these different ways by which persons are trying to defraud them of their hard-earned property.
51:53Yes?
51:54So, again, we would want everyone who has the information to pass it on to someone who may not have the information.
52:02Don't take it for granted that the person next to you know that, you know what, there are persons who are online and they would present something in such a way that the average person, if not necessarily, you know, that conscious may fall for it and then place themselves in a position where they could be harmed.
52:22I think you all may need to do a skit.
52:24Because maybe people like visual now, more than anything, because everyone lives on their phone.
52:28You do a little skit for like a minute, showing you online and this, that, and whatever, and showing the actual flyers.
52:35Sold.
52:36Yeah, I'm just saying, because we're not sure if many persons could read, and if they could read, could they comprehend?
52:41Yeah.
52:42So maybe a visual might assist everyone.
52:44Of course, of course.
52:45And we have a responsibility to reach, you know, the varying audiences.
52:51Yes?
52:52Because there are persons, you are quite correct, they would see things differently, they would understand things differently.
52:57There are persons who may have certain limitations, and for that reason, it is our responsibility to reach them.
53:03So we take that and we will apply it to our public relations.
53:08Let's say a car seat situation.
53:10Yes.
53:11Where persons or a taxi driver could have been charged by an officer because he had a parent with a child in the backseat of their vehicle.
53:21But how could a taxi have a car seat?
53:24Yeah, very good question.
53:27So the law spells it out regarding booster seats, child seats, whatever you would want to call it, for children below the age of six, six and below.
53:40And it speaks to private motor vehicles.
53:45Later on, in the chapter or the specific area that addresses this particular offense, it mentions where public service vehicles are not subject to that.
54:03So simply put, taxi driver, bus driver, bus drivers, no, they are not required to have booster seats.
54:13But at least I think you'll be smart if someone comes in a vehicle with a child, you put them in the backseat.
54:19If they try to sit in the front, you let them go to the back for safety reasons.
54:22Yes, of course.
54:23And the driver, as we said on a previous program, driver of a motor vehicle have a significant responsibility.
54:32And we may tend to take it for granted because it's a car and cars are an everyday means of transportation.
54:39But it's similar to a captain of a ship.
54:43It's similar to a pilot who's in charge of a plane.
54:46You are in charge of persons.
54:48And if you are in charge of persons, then you need to take charge of persons.
54:52In that, you determine for their safety how you manage your situation in terms of transporting them from one area to the next.
55:02So it is very, very important.
55:04And we would ask persons to be assertive where that is concerned.
55:07Because there are some persons who, you know, they may be a little more concerned with making a dollar as opposed to ensuring that, yes, yes.
55:17But it is of paramount importance.
55:19Safety is of paramount importance.
55:21And we want our taxi drivers, our maxi drivers, our public service personnel responsible for transportation to be very assertive where this is concerned.
55:31Well, we'd like to thank you so much, Acting ASP Fitz, for being here and continue doing the great job that you're doing.
55:37And the Northern Division, Northern North Division, the entire team, we wish you nothing but the best and be safe out there.
55:42We get ready for news coming up next at 7 o'clock.
55:46Be pure and just and have God in your life no matter what.
55:48We're out.
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