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02:08Good evening Trinidad and Tobago and welcome to Beyond the Tape.
02:11Today is Thursday the 4th of July.
02:14Now I'm going to ask a question and what do you think it means when someone is being profiled
02:21that what it is to be profiled?
02:23Do you profile someone, may you watch someone and assume that they may be a criminal or
02:29someone who is outstanding, upstanding citizen, a person who is able to, you know, stand by
02:36their word.
02:37That is a form of profiling, I believe, or some sort of definition that when you watch
02:41an individual from their parents, you create what the character of the person may be.
02:48So I want to know when it comes to profiling how citizens could be able to identify persons
02:54who may be the said criminal that we may bounce up or may target us and we may not even know
03:01or do they really have a look.
03:02So today is Thursday so that means we have acting ASP Pitt from Northern North Division
03:07and we'd like to welcome you.
03:08Good evening to you.
03:09How are you sir?
03:10Not too bad.
03:11Good evening with me.
03:12Good evening Trinidad and Tobago.
03:13How are you?
03:14I'm good.
03:15I'm good.
03:17I watched one of the videos I saw today and it was just annoying, upsetting, had a lot
03:25of emotions because I don't like, that is why I said profiling, when you profile someone,
03:31you know, you tend to put persons in different categories and it may not even be a category
03:37that they should be in but just by their appearance you'll assume that this person may be a criminal
03:44or maybe not.
03:45Yeah.
03:46So what is the definition of profiling someone when it comes to making sure that you are
03:50safe?
03:51Well, I like how you qualified it because you might be putting someone in a bracket
03:58of criminality and you can also be putting someone in a bracket of being an angel and
04:07that person could very well be a criminal.
04:09So it goes both ways.
04:12But we always hear the term profiling and we are often labeled as police officers that
04:20we are the chief profilers, so to speak.
04:23But isn't that your job?
04:25Experience drives expectation.
04:27So as police officers, based on our experience, there are things and there are flags that
04:33usually guide our decision making process.
04:37So having said that, at times, even as police officers, we could get it wrong.
04:43We could look at someone and have an opinion about them and it could be quite the contrary
04:50and it goes both ways in the sense that, yes, this person may appear to be someone based
04:57on their dress code that we might be willing to engage for the purpose of search or otherwise
05:06and on the other end, this person based on how they are dressed, shirt, tie, the works,
05:12we may look at that person and we may believe that that person is an upstanding, reputable
05:17citizen of Trinidad and Tobago and it could be quite the contrary.
05:21So there are things that based on the fact that we are human beings, we may not ever
05:27be able to get over, yes, but again, experience drives expectations and the good thing with
05:34policing is that a lot of our officers, based on their experience on the ground, based on
05:39the amount of patrols they would conduct, they would be familiar with a lot of persons.
05:44Yes, there are persons who they would not be familiar with, but again, that is the nature
05:50of the job.
05:51Yes, but I don't want to put you on the spot here so much, but more so the individuals
05:56that we see, even on the show, they have a particular look.
06:01So when other persons dress like that, that doesn't deem them to be criminals.
06:07But are we wrong as citizens to judge or in this case, profile them?
06:12Because that is what we see on social media, that is what we see on the show, I show when
06:16we go to the videos and our headlines, the individuals that we will see, the hair out,
06:21the pants sagging, they may have on the slippers, the look, and these are the ones that we see
06:28tend to rob or harm individuals.
06:30But then there are others who dress like that, but they are law-abiding citizens.
06:34Yes, yes.
06:35Well, what we would advise is that persons err on the side of caution.
06:39If you are getting a hunch about someone and there is no need really for you to interact
06:44with that person, then if there is no need to interact with the person or be in that
06:49person's space, then you can avoid the interaction and avoid being in that person's space based
06:54on how you feel.
06:56It should not, though, be along the lines of straight-out prejudice and things of that
07:03nature because we'll be going down a road where we'll be going back into the dark ages,
07:11so to speak.
07:12So we ought to be careful.
07:13It is about striking the balance and understanding.
07:16We often speak about situational awareness and situational awareness speaks to understanding
07:21the persons within your environment as well.
07:23So if persons behave a particular way, they project themselves a particular way, then
07:29you analyze that behavior and you take the appropriate decision based on what you are
07:32seeing at the point in time.
07:34It's a bit hard.
07:35It is very, very difficult.
07:36I'm not going to lie because placed in a position like that is very uncomfortable.
07:42Many times I even caught myself, like if I see an individual fitting a profile that I'm
07:47accustomed seeing, I quick to lock the door.
07:51If I'm walking on the street, I'll cross the street or hold my bag tighter and that's
07:54unfair to an extent.
07:57But then who will protect me if I'm not alert and the one time I drop my guard is when it's
08:04really and truly that person pounce on me.
08:08We have our headlines for today.
08:09Let's take a look at that.
08:10And of course, we will touch on it when we come back.
08:51And of course, these are some of the trending stories that made the headlines today and
09:13also on social media that was trending.
09:15And as I mentioned before, we saw some of these individuals look and by the videos and
09:21the pictures that we are going to show now, you will understand why some persons will
09:25watch individuals dressed in that manner and profile them.
09:29Now, a robbery with assault said to be in the San Juan area earlier today.
09:36Pay attention to the couple that is walking there.
09:39It appears to be an elderly couple.
09:43And they're going to...
09:44...do their business as they are entitled to do as citizens of Chantilly.
10:00Now, we'll see two individuals approaching.
10:18Now, clearly, they had surveillance on them, right?
10:22Well, usually, persons would pay some type of surveillance.
10:28You are correct.
10:29Have an understanding as to the person who they are targeting.
10:32And, you know, again, and that's a good point that you raise.
10:36We ask persons to not...
10:39Don't appear as sheep in the public.
10:43Appear as lions and wolves.
10:47Because even based on your demeanor, the way you behave, persons may see you in a particular way
10:54and they may feel comfortable engaging you negatively.
10:58What I am still baffled with many times when time and time again we see videos like this
11:05and the elderly persons are involved in situations like this is the way in which the criminals treat them.
11:14And this could be someone's mother.
11:16This could be your grandmother.
11:18And the way in which that individual...
11:20I'm sure Jackie will pull it back.
11:22Where he literally kicked the lady to get his partner free.
11:30What did you kick?
11:31Yeah.
11:32Yeah.
11:33Unacceptable.
11:34That is craziness.
11:35Crazy.
11:36Crazy.
11:38What could these individuals do to you that you need to kick and harm and hurt?
11:44Then all you have to do, you're able to run.
11:46You're able to walk.
11:47You're able to get up every day and do things.
11:51But you get up to do this.
11:54And again, we are asking anyone with information regarding this offense to please contact 999-555,
12:01the resident police station, so that we can have the necessary information converted to evidence to bring these persons to justice.
12:10But it seems like he lured the lady out of the vehicle.
12:14And we, especially the elderly, we all have to pay attention.
12:18Yeah, we have to pay attention.
12:19And don't be gullible to these individuals.
12:22There's always the unguarded moment.
12:25In hindsight, it is easy for us to look back and see where things went wrong.
12:31But in the moment, we are going about our business.
12:35And sometimes we throw caution to the wind.
12:38We always look at the personal fable.
12:40We don't believe it will happen to us.
12:43But it is important.
12:44It is of paramount importance that we be situationally aware.
12:47It's breaking my heart.
12:49Yeah, yeah.
12:50It's traumatic.
12:51Yeah, that could be one of my parents.
12:53Yes.
12:54You know, and we reach a new point where, when it's going to stop.
12:59I don't know.
13:03That one struck a nerve.
13:04I'm not going to lie.
13:05Also caught on camera in the Valsing area, a vehicle taken at gunpoint.
13:10Now pay attention at the bottom of the screen.
13:14So, from what I understand, it was a woman entering her SUV.
13:21And again, the opportunity came about.
13:24All the persons were looking.
13:25We obviously did not know.
13:27But the opportunity was given at that point in time.
13:30And the black vehicle is pulling up here.
13:32You'll see the monsters jumping out.
13:35Yeah.
13:37And again, based on our interviews and our investigations,
13:41we recognize that, again, and you said it just now there,
13:44persons will be watching you.
13:46They will be watching you.
13:47They'll be looking for that opportunity to pounce on you.
13:50And, you know, we'll ask persons.
13:53And, again, this is not about victim blaming, victim shaming.
13:56We'd ask persons to be very decisive.
13:58We are not saying that this person wasn't decisive in this instance.
14:01Sometimes even giving your best efforts, you are overwhelmed by the situation in itself
14:07because these persons, they come prepared
14:10and they come with a full understanding as to what they may face.
14:14Yeah, but as far as possible, you know, try to be decisive.
14:18You enter a vehicle.
14:20You know, oftentimes we go on our phones.
14:23We may have some other thing to address within the vehicle.
14:26You know, it's important to be decisive.
14:29Move away from the location.
14:32View your environment.
14:34So that, you know, you make it a lot more difficult for those persons.
14:37And then, again, what's your profile of the individuals, the dress code?
14:41Yes.
14:44They are not the same individuals who attack the couple, the elderly couple.
14:48This is a different group here now.
14:51And they dress the same way.
14:54So we really, I'm sorry to say, you have to profile
14:57because at this point, if we are unable to, we'll be caught sometimes like this.
15:03And I know situations we can't see beforehand.
15:07But you have to really pay attention.
15:09Have to pay attention.
15:10And then the vehicles, if a vehicle is behind you too long,
15:12regardless of what time of the day, pay attention to those things
15:18because you're more than likely being followed.
15:22Always behave as though someone is watching you.
15:25Yes.
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17:27you all to take a look at this video. This morning around 2.30 a.m. this vehicle PDU
17:328133 was stolen from the Rose Avenue Macquarie Gardens.
17:41Whilst we are on that stolen vehicle issue, we have recognized that a large amount of the
17:49vehicles that are being stolen were vehicles that are parked on the roadway. So all those
17:55persons who park their vehicles on the roadway and they retire to bed, please be careful.
18:02Utilize all the mechanisms that you can to ensure your vehicle remains safe. Probably you can park
18:10your vehicle under a camera. It may be a deterrent or it may work for us in the event that your
18:15vehicle is stolen, God forbid. And I know recently we mentioned the technological advancements
18:25regarding vehicles such as the GPS and the alarm system. But we may have
18:33overlooked the fact that there are other devices that were very very strong in terms of creating
18:42a deterrent and stopping persons from stealing vehicles in the past such as scale switches and
18:48even the steering locks, the locks for the area of the gear lever and all these things. So
18:57if it is that we could even revisit those things and add the technological aspect to it, you know,
19:03it would make our vehicle a lot more difficult for persons just to come and take it away. But I'm
19:09assuming because I didn't hear any audio here that maybe this person really didn't have an alarm
19:13system too. That would have at least eluded individuals because the area was lit. Yes. But
19:18the person was swift. Yeah. Yeah. So I hope persons take heed of the information ASP Pitt
19:27definitely gave to you there. And I know that maybe individuals won't be able to have a garage or
19:34a place to park their vehicles and it will always be. Yes, they are persons. Correct. Based on their
19:40circumstance, the only option they have is to park on the roadway. But we have recognized that
19:45the roadway seems to be the area of choice for these persons. And when we look at the technological
19:53aspect and I mentioned the GPS, there are things that they can use and we suspect strongly that
19:59they are using it in order to stop the flow of communication between the GPS system and the
20:06person who can communicate with it. Okay. So it's like a jammer. It's like a jammer. Okay. A localized
20:13jammer. Okay. Yes. So we ought to be careful with that. Yes, the GPS is good. It's excellent. It
20:18assisted us in the past in recovering a tremendous amount of vehicles and even recovering vehicles
20:23with the suspects in it. However, persons and you know they are persons just sitting on a daily
20:29basis with me and studying how they can overcome these devices and they are surfing the internet,
20:39they are doing their research. University of YouTube. Exactly. So we ought to be careful.
20:44You know, I'm thinking that a vehicle is a significant investment. It becomes part of us
20:51and the more we can place in it in order to make the vehicle secure, we should utilize it. Yes.
20:57Now, I know many persons may love to enjoy their me time in their vehicles and their windows up,
21:05AC on, your favorite song is being played, especially when rain is falling, you may be in
21:09comfort of your car. But many times as drivers, we don't pay attention to individuals who may not be
21:19so fortunate to be in a vehicle while rain is falling and a situation like this could happen.
21:25Now, you'll see here a school child was covered in mud. Not because she wanted to have a good time
21:36in the mud. Yeah. But she chose to do that. I don't think so at all. But someone was driving
21:41their vehicle, did not recognize anything else around them and didn't pay attention to persons,
21:50pedestrians, and individuals who may be out walking or going to their various destinations
21:57and drove through the waters, usually like we see, and this happened to this young lady. And I'm just
22:01so sorry that she had to experience something like that. It's not nice. I remember in my school days
22:06too, I was soaked down. So that driver drove without due care and attention based on what
22:11you are saying there. And it's an offense. It is? Yeah. So we think that just driving and splashing
22:19water on persons is just something that we deem a misfortune. What do you mean? Really? Yes.
22:28So if the parent or the child got the license plate number, they could make a report? Of course.
22:33Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. What does he charge though? Driving without due care and attention.
22:39And that would be like a fine? Yeah, it's a traffic offense. So it usually results in a fine.
22:47Would it be also the demerit points? I'm not certain if it will impact regarding the
22:52demerit points. But you'll definitely be... But you can be charged. So persons are washed, please.
22:58Or they see any water, somebody on the pavement. Why splash through the water? You know the person
23:04is going to get wet. You could slow down. Just slow down. Take your time. You know the rain is...
23:11And then too, the rain is falling. You know when the rain is falling, we have to slow down. Yes. So
23:16take into consideration other persons. No one wants to stand in the rain. No one wants to walk
23:22through drizzle or even walk through muddy water. But imagine you maneuvering through that and as
23:29you're getting yourself, okay, you're getting through here. Yeah. Some vehicle passing. Splash.
23:35She couldn't go to school. Yeah. She had to go back home. And her whole day was ruined there.
23:41Because it's all in her hair. You don't know that dirty water she could have. It's used on her skin.
23:45Exactly. Exactly. So drivers, please, please, please be a little more responsible and considerate
23:51for other users of the road. We are not alone on the roadway. Sometimes motorists think that
23:59the road belongs to them. The road belongs to the public and there are pedestrians. There's a motor
24:05in public. There's also property that bounds the parameter of the roadway. And we ought to be
24:10responsible and not be reckless when we drive our motor vehicles. Now, in our headlines, we saw
24:17an article where four persons were held based on fraudulent documents used to obtain a US visa.
24:27And it's crazy to me at times because you know, persons really want to get this US visa is
24:34like a golden ticket. Yes. You're rich. You're rich. You can't talk to me. Yes. If you don't
24:41have a visa, what are you talking to me for? Yeah. You don't have one. I have one. And persons do the
24:47most to obtain these visas. And the ambassador was stating because of course they realized what was
24:55going on and activities where persons are paying thousands of dollars from 18,000 25,000 to get
25:02their visa. And they made it very clear abundantly clear that do not take your money and give it to
25:10someone to apply for a visa for you. Now, the four persons who were held in the age group of 24,
25:1863, 43, and 34. And what made it even worse, they tried to impersonate the TTPS. They said they were
25:27officers. And I don't know. Out of all the professions. Out of all of it. That you could
25:33have chosen. Out of all. Why would you go and say you are officer? When you think they're not going
25:41to check? Well, they say fate doesn't go without a sense of irony. Listen to me, whoever advised
25:46them, sabotage that whole thing for them there. For sure. They were ill-advised. Yes, yes, yes.
25:51Because it wasn't just where, you know, the person showed up for their appointment. One person
25:56got held while going to do the appointment. The other one was held at home. And if I'm not
26:01mistaken, another suspect or two suspects were held at home and one was at the embassy. Excellent.
26:10And they said they obviously appreciate the work and the partnership with the TTPS to try to have
26:18some sort of control with this here because this is nothing new. It's not. It is not. It's not there.
26:25Imagine you paying thousands of dollars. Yeah. People, I see people cry when they can't get the
26:31visa. Yeah. Well, you said it, you know, persons think it's a ticket, a new life, a new beginning.
26:39Is it a lead status? Is it a lead status? It may be. But there are other parts of the world that
26:46you could visit, no? And I believe our passport is very powerful. Yeah. Especially from the Caribbean
26:54where we could travel without visas to two particular parts of the world. Yes. Right.
27:01In Europe is one. We could go to certain parts of South America, also Africa. Yeah. So we have
27:09that path. What we have is golden. Yes. Now, if you have to get a visa the right way, you could
27:19do so because you are now trying to do something. It's fine. It's all well and good. Yeah. But you
27:23can't be spending this kind of money. And doing the wrong thing. Yes. Advancing credentials that
27:29you don't have. You don't have. So I think, is it that they made up a badge number? Possibly. I
27:34don't know if. Possibly. We don't know. But I'm still trying to figure out. What we do know. Oh
27:38yeah. How could you? Yeah. Yeah. What we do know. Oh gosh, wait. So exactly. Like. Yeah. This one
27:43is hilarious. I'm not going to say who said that. But imagine someone just guessed your badge number.
27:48They just happened to guess your badge number. Yes. Yes. Yes. And put that in the system. What
27:52do you think going to come up? Is not your face going to come up? Yeah. Yeah. Correct. Correct.
27:56They probably didn't think so far. Or maybe they were waiting on pigeons to deliver the
28:00information because they don't have that. Yeah. What we are sure about is that they have been
28:04arrested and they will have their day in court. Yeah. We have to take a break. When we come back,
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29:46Maybe you could afford to pay up to $22,500 in fines and lose your license permanently.
29:54No? Then don't drink and drive. A message from the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service.
30:03And we are back and if you're not joining us we have acting ASP Pit from the Northern North Division.
30:19We open the phone line so you talk to us. We have already a caller on the line so let's take that
30:23call. Hello, good evening.
30:32I am calling on behalf of my daughter-in-law.
30:37How far a son I was with my son was murdered some couple years ago and it's a long story.
30:45Because of my income, I have paid for my son's education for 44 years and because of my income
30:53they deny welfare and stuff like that. All he gets is MIS. He's 12 years old. We open a shop
31:07and you know people complain about the shop and whatnot but I didn't bother about
31:15that. She tried and she got a job in one of these companies in L.C. earlier but when she went on the
31:25interview they never told her that this was the circumstances of the interview. Then when she went
31:32in and she phoned in now they were telling her that casual worker not getting paid if they stay
31:39home and stuff like that and holidays won't pay and all this kind of thing and you know as a
31:48nursing assistant there my head nurse will make a duty for us like she will say XYZ you working
32:00and we go seven to three and two to ten off by two days and come back and work by night
32:07and off by three days. Now this company in L.C. is making you work
32:14twenty-six in the night and you don't have no rest time 15 minutes and they go in a machine all day
32:21all night and tell me to come back home and come back the next day for two o'clock which I find
32:30that is not right. I can't go to the union because I really don't know what to do because
32:45you know everything but I don't know what to tell you. All right mom you're hearing me?
32:51You're hearing me? Yes you're hearing me? Yes. What would you like the TTPS to do with the situation
32:57for you? Well I would like if they can give me um well um uh advice what we can take
33:06what we can take because that is our bank is now and people want jobs now. Yeah. I'm afraid.
33:13Did you did you get a contract from the company? That was well when the contract that she she got
33:22is nothing of what she's doing right now. It's worked out of the contract. All right thank you.
33:28We will um try our best to assist. I think you need to go back to your contract
33:34see what it is her job spec entails and if it is that you know it is not what it entails how
33:43the TTPS I mean she's seeking some sort of assistance and I know that we have the certain
33:49clinics that the TTPS has available. Justice clinics. Yes. Okay it is not a
33:56normal policing issue it's not a traditional policing issue
34:00but we understand the the plight of the caller but you said it if there's a contract then she
34:08can seek some legal advice so that the employer now functions within the parameters of the contract.
34:15If it is that that doesn't work then probably the employee can consider
34:23getting another job. Now that might be easier said than done because we know that the job situation
34:28yeah there are times and give me your circumstance getting a job may not be the easiest thing to do.
34:34So there are several options but ma'am unfortunately it's not a normal policing issue so
34:43um I wish I could have given much more. The justice clinic that um. Well the justice clinic again
34:49is is about um getting legal advice. But I think she needs that. Yes and that's why she can go to
34:56her lawyer so that the lawyer can look at the contract and see if whether there are any breaches
35:01and and what could be the consequence of those breaches. Yes I mean I think we could talk to
35:07a bit on that. Yes. Being the attorney-at-law for the show and for the people. Yes yes. And
35:13see how best we could assist. Yeah. Because I could hear the pain and she just needs some guide.
35:17Yes of course. Now I wanted to take a look at what took place in the western division
35:22for an exercise with the traffic unit in the four roads Degomartin area.
35:53Tell them.
35:58Okay well you as the driver it's your responsibility to make sure that all the
36:03passengers are safe and secure. So I'll have to issue you with an electronic clearance notice for
36:09that particular violation. You understand right? When I give you the ticket you'll have to image the
36:14passenger.
36:23No sir. It's you.
36:44So
37:06all right so we've been issued with an electronic clearance notice for the
37:10last 15 days.
37:23I agree but that is your right as a citizen. It's also your right as a driver to make sure
37:29everybody's doing what they're supposed to do right. Have a good night sir.
37:40She's our child.
37:46City officers give you a hand signal. You have to put on your house lights.
37:54Put on your glasses. All your glasses. And go away to the instructions.
38:10Yeah
38:36I'm sure that as you were driving a signal was
38:40incorrect.
38:48So it is a ticketable offence. I'd like to see a driving documents with the driver's phone.
38:54I observe that at this point in time you're wearing the signal incorrect. So let me just
39:00inform you as to why you have a signal in the first place. In the event of an accident what
39:07the signal is there to prevent you from flying through the windshield.
39:13I understand and know but the chances are the signals killing you
39:17are much lower than the one than the chance of you dying because the signal was off right.
39:23The signal is to be worn over the chest over the arm flap right. So exit please because at this
39:32point in time you're wearing it improperly which means you're not wearing it.
39:36Right. I'll be issuing you with an electronic.
39:39As far as we know this is a four-dimensional offence. No seat belt.
39:47You'll have 15 days to contest it and 30 days to pay. Okay sure go ahead.
39:54Answer the question.
40:00I also see you were warned just six months ago.
40:05Yeah when an officer warns you anybody else that can use this particular device
40:13can see that you were warned right. Yeah but you were spoken to before.
40:18Technology technology and to that female officer listen you were busy girl. You were very very busy
40:24but I was I mean if the passenger in that case which I didn't know not wearing the seat belt
40:30in the vehicle you could meet the driver could be charged which we saw. Of course. Right.
40:35But you're paying the ticket though. Who's paying the ticket? The passenger. Okay. They have to give
40:42the money for it. Yes. Very interesting. You have to give me the money for it. I can't go and argue with
40:48the officer after they explained to me. Well I agree with you on that part that you cannot or you should not.
40:53Yeah. It happens. It happens with always engaging police officers but as a driver you have a
41:01responsibility and you have a responsibility to ensure that your passengers also comply
41:08with the rules and regulations of the roadway. And we don't have laws yet for passengers in the
41:12backseat wearing the seat belt. No. No. Not yet. Because I understand that they're trying to implement that
41:17as well. Yeah. To secure passengers in the vehicle because once you're in the vehicle you need to be
41:23safe. Yes. And also before we go to the break quickly she spoke about another driver who was
41:29not wearing his seat belt properly. So even though the seat belt is on and it's let's say they take
41:35the belt or the strap that comes across you and it's behind you, you can still get a ticket? Of
41:41course. But it's clicked. It's clicked but you are wearing it inappropriately so it would be
41:46deemed as though you're not wearing your seat belt at all. I wish the officer had given a little
41:50blight to the driver. I know that. I felt it for him. I felt it for him. I know that Whitney. You wish everyone could get a blight. No. No. No.
41:56It's not like that. I'm just saying I really hope that you know in that situation you were able to get
42:01a blighter you know. Oh gosh. Oh gosh. But surely and surely the person who was in the passenger seat
42:07if it was me you're paying the ticket. You're giving me the thousands. Sure. Sure. We take a break. We'll be back. Interesting.
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43:04Online here with this weirdo named Larry. I'm getting rid of him now.
43:19Let's take a selfie. It looking good boy. I'm putting it online.
43:28Hey, I thought you said you went to the beach with your parents.
43:33Who's you? It's me, Larry, from online.
43:58And we are back. Now, I am still, you know, taking any information from what I saw
44:10with the traffic stops that was taking place in the Western Division. Yes. And
44:16what could be done for that passenger who may not be wearing the seatbelt then?
44:20The passenger could have also been ticketed, but that is considering the age of the passenger.
44:2617 and above, the passenger could have been ticketed as well. So why should they ticket?
44:30Well, we don't know the age of the passenger. Now, both persons could be ticketed. Okay. The
44:34driver and the passenger. But the driver had on the seatbelt. No. Well, the driver is responsible
44:39for the passenger. Okay. The driver is also responsible for the passenger. So both persons
44:44can be ticketed. In the event of a child, obviously, at that stage, the driver alone
44:50will stand liability. Yes, regarding being ticketed. But if the person in the front seat,
44:5617 and over, the person in the front seat can also be ticketed. The driver can also be ticketed.
45:01Okay. We have a call on the line. Let's take that. Yeah. Hello. Good evening.
45:08Good evening, sir.
45:10Good evening, sir.
45:31That's extortion.
45:32Another issue.
45:35Mr. Pitt. Sir.
45:38I am way out of your age.
45:42If you remember, 30, 40 years ago, I'm going to use a primitive tool.
45:48That was called Tom Timmons. Was it a caller? You know what? All this technology in the world.
45:54I didn't hear you tell me. Was it a caller?
45:56No.
46:00What's the term you said?
46:07No, just now. You're hearing me? Yeah. What's the term you use?
46:15Container.
46:18Tom?
46:20Or Tom.
46:22Tom Timmons, yeah?
46:25We had that.
46:27We might still even have it. But it's called by someone that he may know.
46:31But it's a primitive name of Tom Timmons. Mr. Pitt is supposed to know that.
46:35Tom, don't you forget me.
46:36I'm sure. He's closer to you.
46:37Yeah. I'm a researcher, too.
46:39Yeah, I don't know.
46:41Asking me.
46:42Thank you. Thank you, caller.
46:44Yeah, because asking me.
46:45Yes.
46:46Officer Pitt watching me like I'm going to answer like.
46:48I was hoping.
46:50I don't know. To be honest, I don't know.
46:52Yeah.
46:53Now, I know persons may be calling before we get ready to go to the break.
46:58I understand that you got embarrassed in a PS4 tournament. Is that true?
47:06I think embarrass is a strong word.
47:09What I would say is that being the good sport that I am.
47:14Yes.
47:15And considering that children's emotions are much more fragile than adults.
47:20Sometimes we allow ourselves to be beaten in the greater interest of the sport.
47:26I thought you were able to hold your own there and I was hoping for the best.
47:30I was really, really hoping for the best.
47:31It was all good. It was an excellent competition.
47:35If you had seen it, you would have been in awe.
47:37It was really, really tremendous.
47:38Sergeant Tom Granite spoke highly of you and you coming out in all jokes aside.
47:43Yeah, yeah, yeah.
47:44It's nice. You know, I have to pull your leg now and again when I can.
47:46Just don't pull it off.
47:47No, no, I can't. Impossible.
47:49I think assaulting an officer is what charge.
47:53It is an offence.
47:54Well, obviously.
47:55That's an offence.
47:56I don't know what the magistrate or the master may do.
48:01You know, assaulting an officer.
48:02Yeah, I wouldn't want to know.
48:03Wouldn't even want to go there.
48:04Yeah, exactly. We have a call.
48:06Hello. Good evening.
48:08Yes. Good evening, ma'am. Good evening, sir.
48:10Good evening, sir.
48:11Good evening, sir.
48:13I'm a member of the Protective Service and I would like to make a formal complaint.
48:19Yes, sir.
48:20Against a woman police who continues to breach an existing court order to access their mine.
48:29We had a little court, we had a little court issue.
48:33Okay, just now, we needed to take off your television because we need to hear you.
48:39So you need to be brief because we're going to break in a few minutes.
48:42And please don't call any names.
48:44Okay.
48:44Yeah, go ahead.
48:45What I'm saying is that I'd like some guidance because what she is doing actually has moved
48:49the child to about seven different schools.
48:51And apparently, she's using her power and position to make it difficult for me as a
49:00father to have any type of input in her life.
49:03Yeah, we can.
49:07Yeah.
49:08Okay, leave your name and number of Air Force right now, please.
49:14And we will try and deal with that situation, I guess.
49:16Have you heard us?
49:17Yeah, I believe so.
49:18Yes.
49:20And I mean, in a situation like that, the little snippets that I received, it's a person
49:27who is part of the TTPS.
49:30And, you know, sometimes individuals will find loopholes to make it difficult because
49:34of the position at the end, which is bad, because you're abusing power, if that is the
49:39case.
49:39Yeah, that is the case.
49:40But I hope that we were able to help the gentleman.
49:42Of course.
49:42Because many times we hear and see that men crying out to have time with their children
49:50and spend time with their children.
49:52And being there, us as women, at times, you know, we hold that grudge, that bitterness.
49:59Yeah.
50:00And we get the children involved.
50:02And they are the ones who will be hurting in the long run and not understanding.
50:06You have to release whatever issues, but make sure that you put the child first.
50:11Of course.
50:11So I hope we were able to help that gentleman there.
50:13Well said.
50:13If it was a female, everybody would have been running to her rescue to assist.
50:17All right, let's take a break.
50:18We'll be back.
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52:18This is Mary.
52:20Mary has bills to pay and takes a chance parking in front of the building at the no parking sign.
52:27Mary returns to her car and this is what happens.
52:38Mary decides to call when she's five minutes away to let her daughter know that she is close by.
52:45But Mary forgot one thing.
52:53After two tickets, Mary just isn't paying attention to her speed.
53:15Don't be like Mary.
53:17Obey the laws of the road.
53:19A message from the TTPS.
53:36And we are back. I want you to take a look at this.
53:44I don't park up here.
53:46They run me down and give me all these tickets, right?
53:48What's your first ticket?
53:50The first one on your ticket.
53:52It's saying, for friends, vehicle without two headlamps.
53:57I see my two headlights working on my car.
53:59I'm blind.
54:01Boom.
54:03Next one.
54:05What does it say?
54:07Detective identification plates.
54:09I know my license plate on my car there.
54:14I don't know if these officers went to school.
54:18I know my license plate on my car there.
54:20And the last one is driver without seatbelt.
54:22They never stop me.
54:24I stop here to go and run this van.
54:26I alter my vehicle.
54:28They tell me I drive without my seatbelt on.
54:30That officer is pretty good, man.
54:32Check on your girl.
54:34Stop checking me.
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