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02:22Good evening, Trinidad and Tobago.
02:24Today is Thursday, the 11th of July.
02:26My name is Whitney Husbands.
02:28Now, do we have responsibilities
02:30as law-abiding citizens in Trinidad and Tobago?
02:33What are our responsibilities to society?
02:35Do we believe we have that?
02:37Are we following that?
02:38Is there anything that you believe
02:40that we need to do that is right
02:42to preserve the peace and, of course,
02:44make sure that we are doing the right things in society?
02:48It's Thursday.
02:49We have one of our favorite officers on the show,
02:52acting ASP, Pitt, from the Northern North Division.
02:55Good evening to you, sir. How are you?
02:57A pleasant evening, ma'am.
02:58Pleasant evening, Trinidad and Tobago.
02:59How are you?
03:01I'm a little tired. I'm not going to lie.
03:02I'm a little tired, but God is good.
03:04God is good.
03:05I was trying to fake it there a second there.
03:07I was like, you don't stand here and lie
03:09before you get struck by lightning.
03:10Yes, yes.
03:11So, yes, just one of those days.
03:12Just one of those days.
03:13But, you know, we have to shake it off
03:14and keep it moving.
03:15Of course, of course.
03:16Of course, indeed.
03:17First, I asked a few seconds ago
03:19with regards to the responsibility as citizens.
03:22Do we have a responsibility to society?
03:24Of course.
03:25As law-abiding citizens.
03:26Law-abiding, civic-minded.
03:28Yes, we have a responsibility.
03:30You know, we firstly look at it
03:34as we have a responsibility to ourselves
03:36regarding securing ourselves,
03:39protecting ourselves,
03:40by extension, our loved ones,
03:42and by extension, the entirety of your community
03:46and the people.
03:47But there are other things.
03:49There are other things that we are responsible for
03:52as citizens, you know, regarding our children
03:55in terms of their development,
03:57in terms of ensuring that they have
03:59the appropriate environment,
04:01in terms of our own development,
04:04as to what we could give to the society
04:06in order for the society to be much more developed,
04:10much more successful.
04:12So there are so many responsibilities
04:14we have as citizens.
04:16And I hear you say we.
04:18We, yes, because police officers are citizens as well.
04:21And as much as our responsibility
04:25might be one of law enforcement,
04:27there are other areas that,
04:29as members of the community,
04:31of which we all are,
04:32we are members of some community,
04:34you know, there are responsibilities
04:36that comes with that.
04:37And as Mr. Greenidge, who graced the program
04:41some time ago, was able to express,
04:43you know, as a police officer within our community,
04:45there are things that you can do
04:46in order to advance the community,
04:48in order to project that image of positivity
04:51and all these things regarding our youths
04:53and, you know, persons who may be open
04:56to all these negative type of elements
04:59and directions that may not be the best,
05:01may not be the most appropriate.
05:03So most of us who don't use
05:09the tools that are given to us in society
05:12to be law-abiding citizens
05:13or the responsibility of being a law-abiding citizen,
05:16it will trickle into the things we do
05:18in our daily routine and our lives
05:20and, of course, what we see in the public domain.
05:22Yes, yes, yes, yes, of course.
05:26There are so many things we are taught as children
05:31and we would always hope that those things are sufficient
05:34in order to carry us forward,
05:36to launch us forward
05:38into being what the society desires,
05:41what the society expects,
05:42what the society needs,
05:43what the society is dependent on.
05:47We are not perfect,
05:48so at times persons may falter here and there
05:51and that is the avenue
05:55or the opening for your family or community
05:59and, you know, as a last resort,
06:00the police will get involved
06:02because oftentimes our job as law enforcement officers
06:06is when something has gone wrong.
06:08We have sought to change that, though,
06:10in that we are now seeking to be involved in the community
06:15even when things are right
06:16so that persons don't see the police only showing up
06:19as a matter of,
06:20what are the police doing there?
06:21Something happened.
06:22You know, there are those...
06:23Something major.
06:25Something went down.
06:26Something happened.
06:27What happened?
06:28Yeah, because the police, you know, we are there.
06:30As opposed to the police are there
06:32because it's a regular visit.
06:35You know, we are received with open arms.
06:38The community see us as part of the community
06:41and it's not always that type of adversarial type of relationship
06:45and that is what we are seeking to achieve.
06:48Could we do it by ourselves?
06:50No, we can't.
06:51Definitely not.
06:52We can't do anything in life by ourselves.
06:54Those of you who believe you could do it by yourself,
06:56you still will have to put out your hand
06:58for some sort of assistance.
07:00It's not begging, you know,
07:01but you will need assistance throughout life
07:05to do things better.
07:06It's better together as a team.
07:07As they say, there's no I in team.
07:09There's no I in team.
07:10So let's take a look at today's headlines
07:12and when we come back, we will discuss more.
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08:12And we are back.
08:13Some of the major headlines making the spotlight
08:16for the last 24 hours and a lot to discuss, a lot to dissect.
08:20Yes.
08:21And we will be using the TTPS
08:25and ways in which you all are dealing
08:27with many of the situations.
08:28Now, first, I would like to congratulate the TTPS
08:31on the major bus, the $4.5 million bus
08:34that we saw went on.
08:37We read on the news yesterday,
08:39but the bus happened on Tuesday.
08:40Yes.
08:41So the intelligence was spot on.
08:43Spot on.
08:44And as you mentioned before, when you saw officers,
08:46well, when persons see officers,
08:48something big just happened.
08:49Something big just happened.
08:50And something big definitely happened there.
08:51Yes.
08:52So congratulations to the leading officer or officers involved
08:55and the entire team.
08:56Yeah.
08:57And spearheading that intelligence
08:59with the investigation.
09:00And now seeing this big bus is a big deal.
09:03It is.
09:04And I am proud to say that the officers,
09:07some of the officers involved are members
09:10of the Northern Division.
09:11So hats off to Mr. Muncheshard, my superintendent,
09:15Mr. Guelmo, Mr. Maskell, Mr. Foster,
09:19who directly supervised.
09:21And also to the intelligence team
09:24that were able to provide the intelligence that was spot on.
09:27You know, we look forward to these type of successes.
09:30And again, it could only be, or I should say not only be,
09:34but it's largely dependent on the cooperation,
09:36the support, and the information coming from the public.
09:39Very important.
09:40Now, I saw the training for some agencies.
09:43And that means that type of training
09:47is going to be a bit different, intense, and informative
09:50to assist in the drugs that is happening
09:54in Trinidad and Tobago, coming in and out,
09:56and how to detect and how to operate
09:58and put things in place to at least clog
10:02some of the holes that we have
10:04where drugs are concerned in Trinidad and Tobago.
10:06Of course.
10:07We rely heavily on our international partners
10:10in order to investigate and, you know,
10:13sometimes bridge that gap between persons
10:15we may be looking at, investigations that are ongoing.
10:18And, you know, they perform at a particular level
10:22based on their skill set,
10:23based on the training they were exposed to.
10:25So it's definitely a step in the right direction
10:28for our officers to be exposed to that type of training.
10:31It could only work out well for the country
10:34because we'd have officers now operating
10:36at an international standard.
10:38It would make it much easier in terms of the cordial relationship
10:42that we already shared.
10:43It would make it a lot easier
10:44because it's a matter of us operating at one level.
10:47Yeah.
10:48And I think many times persons believe
10:50that we don't have highly trained officers
10:53in the front units, excuse,
10:55and they're just here winging it
10:57and we don't have qualified persons.
10:59Yes, yes, yes.
11:00And believe that every officer who enters the TTPS
11:03has three passes.
11:04Yes, yes, yes.
11:05But that's a myth.
11:06That's a myth.
11:07No, it's crazy because sometimes I hear the conversations
11:10and persons say that they're not even,
11:13we saw even in public the last video we had some weeks ago
11:16where a lawyer was saying they're not smart enough to understand.
11:19So, you know, it's sad.
11:21We will get those comments.
11:23Those comments speaks to the knowledge base
11:27of the person who is making it, yes?
11:30Because even to join the organization you need five passes.
11:33And then there are officers who have gone on
11:36and they have continued their studies.
11:38We have so many lawyers in the organization.
11:40Mr. Ali's testimony to that.
11:42So many brilliant minds.
11:44Old masters.
11:45Of course, we have officers.
11:46Doctorates.
11:47Doctorates, that's right.
11:48So the police service,
11:50we have a tremendous amount of persons
11:53who have engaged from the perspective of academia.
11:56So we marry that with the practical lens of policing.
11:59So academics, if you would want to call us that.
12:03And, you know, with that type of drive,
12:06that type of background, you know,
12:08blending the policing with the academics,
12:11definitely it's an approach that is going to push the TTPS forward,
12:18going to transform the organization
12:20into the type of TTPS that the public so demands.
12:23Yes.
12:24I want to dive straight into this quickly here.
12:27The only reason why I'm bringing this up
12:29is because officers were involved.
12:31So two young men were removed from their graduation in Tobago
12:35and based on what I read and the rules of the said school,
12:40they were given a consent form that they had to sign,
12:43understanding the rules and regulations,
12:46which were no plaits, no cornrows,
12:48no colors in the hair for the females,
12:51you know, dress modestly, no cleavage,
12:54no, well, natural makeup, and no jewelry.
12:58And two young men showed up at the graduation with cornrows.
13:02Police got involved because they called the TTPS to intervene
13:07because they said the young men were disobedient.
13:10Okay.
13:11Why was the police there?
13:13Because these children were disobedient.
13:16With the rules of the school,
13:18they did not break the rules of children in Tobago,
13:22the laws of children in Tobago.
13:24Correct.
13:25And the question is a reasonable question.
13:32There are persons who, and quite rightfully so,
13:35at times may anticipate that something could happen
13:39as a result of a particular engagement.
13:41And out of an abundance of caution,
13:43they may request that the police officers are present to preserve the peace.
13:47Okay.
13:48And we have often said that on this program with me,
13:51where even in doubt, it is better you err on the side of caution.
13:55One may argue, though, because I'm thinking there are other persons
13:58who are sitting watching television and saying,
14:00but they are children.
14:01We are wasting police time.
14:03Wasting police time.
14:04But let's not bury our heads in the sand.
14:06We know what some of our children are capable of.
14:09Not that I'm saying that these children should be placed in that category.
14:14I'm speaking general.
14:16We all know what some persons who are deviant can do.
14:22And for that reason, if we are called upon to provide a service
14:26to ensure that we preserve the peace, we are going to do that.
14:30Well, to not allow anything to escalate.
14:32Thank you very much.
14:33Because they would have adult children.
14:35If they call the parents, they go at it.
14:37But this is something that the school has to deal with.
14:40I only raise this because the TTPS was involved.
14:42Yes.
14:43And to give some sort of context and body to the story
14:47so it wouldn't just be however you interpret it.
14:49Because sometimes when you just hear baseline police involved,
14:52police more than likely did X, Y, Z.
14:54No.
14:55They were called.
14:56They showed up.
14:57The two young gentlemen were removed from the compound of the graduation.
15:02The officers did not physically touch these young men.
15:06But a report was made by the parents.
15:08And the officers took the report
15:11because the parents found what happened to their children
15:15was clearly in a malicious act.
15:17And they wanted to take legal action and move forward with this matter.
15:20So the parents did the right thing making a report.
15:23And the officers took the report.
15:24And you see what happened from there.
15:27So at this time, this was caught on camera in the Bataria area.
15:31I want you all to take a look at this.
15:35Again, being aware of your surroundings.
15:37Yes, being aware.
15:39And we always say there is the unguarded moment.
15:41We don't want to blame the victims.
15:44We don't want to victim shame, so to speak.
15:47But it is very important when we are in the public space
15:51to have an understanding as to what is happening around us.
15:55It would put us in a position where we could make better decisions.
15:58It doesn't mean to say that nothing will happen.
16:00It doesn't mean to say that had this woman been situationally aware
16:03that she may not have been robbed.
16:05No, it doesn't mean that.
16:07But nonetheless, there are instances where based on being aware,
16:10you can put yourself in a position where you preserve your safety.
16:14And to the van man, I don't know if you noticed,
16:20their eyes were very sharp, the individuals in the van,
16:24and they decided to assist.
16:26I'm not sure what happened after this,
16:28but I hope that they were able to get some information to the TTPS
16:32and they were able to apprehend this individual.
16:35We take a break at this time.
16:37Let's take that break, and when we come back, we'll continue with more after this.
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18:21Now, at the TTPS media release, I'm seeing that they were very active
18:26and able to deal with situations in different parts of Trinidad.
18:30Now, five arrested, firearms, ammunition, and drugs seized,
18:34and vehicle recovered during an anti-crime exercise in the
18:37Southwestern Division and Northeastern Division.
18:40Five persons are arrested and a firearm and several rounds of
18:43ammunition seized during an anti-crime exercise, or exercises,
18:47in the Southwestern Division yesterday.
18:50That was on the 10th of July.
18:54Now, according to reports, while conducting a warrant exercise
18:57for firearms and ammunition, officers went to a home located
19:01in Old Train Lane, or Train Line Road, Sapario.
19:06During the search, they found one .38 revolver and three .38
19:10live rounds of ammunition, as well as 533 grams of marijuana.
19:17The occupants of the house were arrested and are expected to be
19:21charged for being in possession of the illegal items.
19:25Also, a Nissan AD wagon was also recovered by officers of the
19:29Southwestern Division.
19:31Checks revealed that the vehicle was reported stolen in the
19:34Aruka District on December 2023.
19:37Wow.
19:38As a result, three main occupants of the said vehicle were
19:41arrested and conveyed to the .14 police station pending
19:45further inquiries.
19:48Now, meanwhile, in the Northeastern Division, officers
19:51received credible information and proceeded to a bushy area in
19:55Stephenville, Mova area, where a comprehensive search was
20:00conducted while searching.
20:02Under a mango tree, the officers seized one firearm with a
20:05magazine and 15 rounds of a 7.62 ammunition, which was hidden in
20:10a black plastic bag.
20:12Inquiries are ongoing.
20:15So the officers are definitely busy.
20:17Rusty gun or not?
20:18Yeah.
20:19Excellent work.
20:20Still guns and drugs off the street.
20:22Of course.
20:23Excellent work, Southwestern Division, Northeastern Division.
20:26And regarding sometimes firearms that are found, we know that
20:31there are members of the public who sometimes a firearm is found
20:35and no one is arrested at the point in time.
20:38You know, they don't see it as a total achievement, and probably
20:41rightfully so.
20:42But we must mention that it's not just a case of the firearm being
20:46seized and there's no furtherance regarding investigation.
20:51We rely heavily on the science at that particular point in time.
20:54There are certain things about that weapon based on what our
20:57experts are able to do that once it is successful, we are capable
21:03of bringing persons to account.
21:05Yes?
21:06So it's not a done deal.
21:07Yes.
21:08I know it's not a done deal, and I always say that I hope after
21:11you're able to apprehend these suspects that when they go before
21:14the court, the court does what they need to do.
21:16Yes.
21:17Because, again, we'll be spinning top and mud over and over, but
21:19that's another discussion when Ali is here.
21:21I won't put you on the spot there at all, but you're doing what
21:24needs to be done, and we are moving forward.
21:27Yes.
21:28And I'm hoping that we find a way, as we openly show the
21:31responsibilities of both parties, meaning the civilians and the
21:37TTPs, even though the TTPs are also part of the society.
21:40Of course.
21:41Find a way for us to work together and somewhat have some
21:47control, because we can't get rid of it the same way like some of
21:50the insects we don't like, the mosquitoes that we have.
21:53I have to be very careful my reference of insects and animals.
21:56Yes.
21:57Right?
21:58That we want to get rid of it totally, but it is really impossible.
22:01You will have some sort of control, but to say to get rid of it
22:05totally is a bit difficult at times.
22:08And I'm glad how you are coaching it.
22:11The analogy is very important.
22:13You are being very careful, and you want to be.
22:15You never call anybody out of their name or someone's child,
22:18because they are still human beings.
22:20Things happen.
22:21As you mentioned before, we are not perfect individuals.
22:24We are not perfect.
22:25No one is perfect, but you have an opportunity that you could
22:28change your life.
22:29Yes.
22:30And if we could find ways to do that, why start off by using words
22:35that will rip persons down to zero, even though they are making
22:39wrong decisions?
22:40Yes.
22:41But we don't know what caused individuals from that very tender
22:44mind to start doing what they are doing and what they are exposed to.
22:47And the environment says a lot about your upbringing in many cases.
22:51Yes.
22:52Not saying someone could have a fantastic upbringing and turn out
22:54to be the worst person ever.
22:56True.
22:57But it's what they are exposed to that causes the mind to be warped
23:01or cause that mind to be what we think may be not normal,
23:05be normal for these individuals.
23:07Yes.
23:08Having said that, if it is you are surfing one of our social media
23:15platforms and you observe a deal, wonderful deal with me,
23:22something that you love and you would love to have, probably clothing,
23:28and you reach out to this person and this person is telling you,
23:32here, no problem, you are going to get it.
23:34In fact, I'm going to give you a further discount.
23:38But you need to meet me at X place.
23:40You have no idea where X place is.
23:43Okay.
23:44So I'll use my Google Maps?
23:46You may use your Google Maps.
23:47Okay.
23:48So when you use your Google Maps, what would be the next step with me,
23:51husband?
23:53Well, if I don't know the place, the first thing from learning and
23:58listening, let's show my police station.
24:02That should be the first step.
24:03So you're going to demand that?
24:04Yes.
24:05Why?
24:06Because I don't know you from anywhere.
24:08That's right.
24:09I don't even know what you look like.
24:11Even if you do send a picture, you could send a picture of somebody
24:13else that is not you.
24:15Exactly.
24:16And it is sad that persons are still falling victim to that type of
24:23crime where persons are luring them into environments that they have
24:27no control over and they are being robbed.
24:30Items are being taken away through force.
24:34We will continue to provide the information in order to dissuade
24:39persons from being so vulnerable.
24:42But it is important that people understand that you need to be
24:47conscious, you need to be aware, you need to understand the decisions
24:50you are making.
24:51If you don't know, you have never seen someone in your entire life,
24:54how could you allow yourself to be taken to a particular place in
24:59order to carry out unusually a cash transaction.
25:02And most of the times we may not even trust our partner or spouse,
25:05but you'll trust a stranger to buy a product.
25:07There you go.
25:09There you go.
25:10You're giving more trust to strangers.
25:12There you go.
25:13Why?
25:14Because they have a soothing voice over the phone?
25:16They have a good deal.
25:17A good deal.
25:18That's right.
25:19If it's too good to be true.
25:20It is.
25:21It is.
25:22Yes.
25:23And many times we have to pay attention to that.
25:26You'll see them.
25:27And it's so crazy that you will see that and then, boom,
25:30you go on your phone.
25:31You know, I'm looking for this and it comes up.
25:33Yes.
25:34And you're saying, I have to get this now because I needed this and
25:37this is a deal that I can't pass up on not knowing you're putting
25:40yourself in a trap.
25:41These persons are very professional.
25:43And they appeal to that side of us that has this desire.
25:49And it's the desire to have a deal.
25:54And it's innate.
25:55It's part of all of us.
25:56If we believe that something is being sold here at $1 and we could
26:01walk probably a stretch to get it for five cents off,
26:05we may do that.
26:07Yes?
26:08That's me.
26:09I've heard.
26:10I'm not saying this.
26:11No, that's me.
26:12You've heard?
26:13I've heard that women are more guilty of it than men.
26:15Yes, we are.
26:16Because men will just walk in.
26:17It's there.
26:18They will buy it.
26:19That's right.
26:20I've heard that.
26:21I've just heard that.
26:22So, I could get this low down the road or somewhere else for
26:24cheaper.
26:25Yes.
26:26We like to shop around first.
26:27We'll shop around.
26:28We'll walk a distance.
26:29Yes.
26:30So, there's something within us that seeks to have, you know,
26:33a deal, right?
26:35Something at a better price.
26:37All that is good.
26:38That is, you know, practicing good economical skills,
26:43if you want to call it that.
26:45With the spending.
26:46Prudent spending.
26:48All these things.
26:50But we need to do it with the understanding of how far we would go.
26:54How far would you put yourself regarding your personal safety?
26:58And it is very important.
27:00Could it be that being too cheap can get you in trouble?
27:03I would rely on your words.
27:07I would rely on your words.
27:09I'm being honest here.
27:10Someone being, because they're extremely cheap people.
27:14Yes.
27:15I'm just saying extremely cheap.
27:16Yeah.
27:18So, they're looking for the biggest or best bargain ever.
27:21And they can then put themselves in trouble because they are so cheap.
27:26Yeah.
27:27That they will pay, you know, the quality of the item that you're buying.
27:32Yeah.
27:33That's in range, I'm just saying, right?
27:35Of $500.
27:36This is usually the cost of it, not because somebody is digging out your eye.
27:39Yes.
27:40The quality of the product.
27:41Yeah.
27:42And that person is selling it for $50.
27:43Yes.
27:44This is $50.
27:45You rush to buy it because you're so cheap.
27:48And you get yourself in trouble.
27:50I love your example.
27:51Because your example is one that, you know, captures persons on numerous occasions.
27:58Too much for comfort.
28:00Persons will surf social media again.
28:05And they may observe a motor vehicle that is valued at $100,000.
28:10And the price might be half of that.
28:15And again, they are led towards going into places that the average person who is aware would not go.
28:24And, you know, it's just crazy.
28:28It's just crazy.
28:30So, we are asking people.
28:31We are appealing to people.
28:32We are begging.
28:33We are beseeching.
28:34Please.
28:35I think people, most of us, if not all of us, want nice things.
28:39Yes.
28:40We want to live a certain lifestyle that's comforting in your mind.
28:44Yeah.
28:45And when given the opportunity, persons who seek certain things and they see the opportunity that's there, they tend to grab it.
28:56Because of what they deem as this is the lifestyle I want and I'm seeing this here before my eyes and I don't want to lose this opportunity given.
29:06Yeah.
29:07And many times we have to check ourselves because everyone wants something nice.
29:10Yes.
29:11Everybody wants to live a certain lifestyle, which I understand, but you end up losing more than when you're gaining more.
29:18Yeah.
29:19When you place yourself in situations like this because of desperation.
29:22I'm not calling anybody desperate.
29:23Yeah.
29:24It's just that you see it as people will view me differently or this is more comforting to me for my peace at home if I have these things.
29:34Yes.
29:36Many times persons will do things for other people.
29:37They really will do it for themselves.
29:38For themselves.
29:39For their comfort.
29:40Yeah.
29:41When they open the door and they see 85-inch flat screen television on the wall and they have this computerized refrigerator.
29:49Yeah.
29:50And I'm getting this refrigerator for $1,500 because I want my home to look a certain way.
29:56I want it to have this high-tech feel.
29:59There's an offense called receiving.
30:02And usually an investigator who is conducting an interview regarding receiving is going to ask of you whether you believe that price that you got it for in relation to the price that the item is usually sold for.
30:21There was a big gap.
30:25So, for example, again, the item costs $1,000 but you got it for $100.
30:32Didn't that raise a flag?
30:37Yes.
30:38That possibly for this person to be able to sell it for this cheap that it just might not in the first instance belong to them.
30:49Think about it.
30:50Food for thought.
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32:21Being cheap is a serious thing, right?
32:25And in our culture, we love alcohol.
32:28Yes, in particular.
32:31And there are a lot of bootleg alcoholic beverages on the market.
32:35And I want to touch on that.
32:37I know we have the phone lines open and we have a call at this time.
32:39So, let's take that call.
32:41So, we won't have them waiting.
32:42Hello, good evening.
32:43Good evening, Whitney.
32:44And a very good evening to Inspector Mr. Smith.
32:49Good evening, sir.
32:50Sorry, I said Smith, but Mr. Pitt.
32:54Sorry, sorry for the twisted timing.
32:56No, two questions I'm asking.
32:59I'm asking you directly.
33:02And the first one is, we hear detection rate.
33:06Detection rate.
33:08And me, I'm so bright.
33:10You understand?
33:11But can you inform people like me, what is the formulation or the formula used to come up with a detection rate?
33:23Because I am of the view, the TVPS manipulating that detection rate.
33:28Sometimes it's up, down, and it's going nowhere.
33:31So, I need you to put it in the public domain, how the TVPS basically get that index, that rate.
33:42The second difficult question now.
33:44We're talking about legal FUL.
33:47We're talking about safety of children.
33:50I want to jog your memory back to five years ago.
33:56When there were two children in Komoto with high-powered rifle.
34:01Where is that investigation?
34:05Now, the fact that they were seen practicing and people defend them.
34:09I think COP defended them, you know, because they said they were vulnerable or something like that.
34:15The fact they were practicing with that tells me their intention was to eventually use it.
34:22Now, to eventually use it requires an FUL.
34:27My question is, have they been granted an FUL?
34:31And which COP signed off on that?
34:34Have a nice evening and enjoy the questions.
34:37Thank you, sir.
34:39And I'm glad that in your run-up, you admitted that they were two difficult questions.
34:45I will respond to the one that I have information about.
34:53The second one that you referred to, definitely I can't respond to that.
34:58I have no information regarding that.
35:01So, your first question was regarding the detection rate.
35:06And the detection rate, more or less, is in relation to the amount of crimes that are reported.
35:12How much are the police able to solve?
35:15How much are we able to solve?
35:17And, you know, it's dependent on a number of factors.
35:21The solvability factors in themselves.
35:26Fingerprints, the cooperation of the witness, providing statements, ID parade.
35:34There are a number of avenues that we would look at in relation to solving offenses.
35:39But to answer your question directly,
35:42the detection rate is regarding the amount of crimes that we are able to solve
35:47in relation to the amount of crimes that are reported.
35:50Okay. So, does that include convictions or that will be separate?
35:54No, no, no. Convictions are separate.
35:56The detection rate lies wholly with us.
35:59Yes.
36:00The conviction, that's the court. That's within the court.
36:03That's what I want you to be very clear because persons may see it as...
36:06Oh, sometimes persons may mix it up.
36:08Yes.
36:09So, the conviction rate is now when the matters are ventilated in the court.
36:15And whether it's a magistrate or a master or a judge is of the view
36:20that the evidence that was provided by the prosecution is sufficient
36:24and they find that person guilty.
36:25Yes.
36:26So, that's a conviction.
36:27Because it has nothing to do with detection.
36:29It has nothing to do with the detection. It's two different things.
36:31We have another call. Hello, good evening.
36:35Hello.
36:36Hi.
36:37Hi, good evening. You can go ahead.
36:39Hi, good afternoon.
36:41Good evening.
36:42What I would like to find out, right, on Sunday go on,
36:45I bought a vehicle at a certain police station, right?
36:49And when I was expecting the police and them to support me while buying the vehicle...
36:59Hello?
37:00Yes, go ahead.
37:02They gave me support. One of his colleagues came out and told us,
37:05told the next officer, do not witness that.
37:11Do not witness it?
37:14Okay.
37:16Do not witness that buying of the vehicle.
37:21Okay.
37:22Yes.
37:23Anything else or that's it?
37:25When we're looking for the security in the police station,
37:28you know, the officer,
37:29let us know and I'll show you on the vehicle for you
37:32and whatever distance, you know?
37:35All right.
37:36Thank you.
37:37Was that the right thing the officer did?
37:40Well, if that is what happened,
37:42then definitely it's something that we are not proud of at this particular point in time
37:49to say that the officers did not,
37:51you know, more or less encourage a person to transact in a safe space.
37:56We know there are so many reports of,
37:58I mean, we were just creating the scenarios of you going to places and being vulnerable
38:04and we would ask persons to go to the station or go to any other area
38:09that security could be provided and, you know, conduct your transaction.
38:14What we would want though is that you have a conversation with the persons in the station
38:20before, and it's not a case of probably you're going to the compound,
38:24not that I'm saying it happened in this instance,
38:28but there are instances of persons who would just come onto the compound
38:32and you may just observe two vehicles parked and, you know,
38:35persons are engaging and probably transactions are taking place
38:39without having a consultation with the officers who are on duty.
38:44In the first instance, you know, the engagement would be, of course,
38:48what is your purpose for being here and things like that.
38:51So in order to not allow the engagement to descend into something untoward,
38:58we would want that the persons who are desirous of doing that
39:02or carrying out those transactions have a conversation with the officers,
39:05explain to them your concerns regarding not wanting to do business
39:09at a particular place and you felt that this area was safe.
39:12You can even ask them for their advice regarding whatever you are about to do.
39:18And we commonly ask our officers to facilitate that.
39:23It's not something within the realm of what we call hardcore policing,
39:27but considering what we are experiencing at this point in time,
39:31if persons are comfortable within our environment,
39:34then we are more than willing to accept them.
39:36But being a witness as an officer, is that okay?
39:39Well, it depends, and that's a very good question.
39:42It depends because we may not always know
39:45what type of transaction is being done,
39:48and that is why it is important for the individual or individuals
39:52to communicate to the officer,
39:54because we must feel comfortable as police officers
39:57that whatever is happening in our space is lawful, is acceptable,
40:00because we don't want that persons are coming on our compounds
40:04to conduct transactions that are not lawful.
40:07So we would want that some communication is done.
40:11Whether the police officer wants to provide himself or herself
40:16as a witness of whatever happened,
40:18if it is something that is above board, I'm not seeing the issue in it.
40:22But nonetheless, it's the decision of the officers at the point in time.
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41:19What you can see from this image is a man lying in a pool of blood in his living room.
41:24He was shot dead a short while ago as two bandits tried to rob him and his family.
41:30What you can't hear is his wife crying inconsolably.
41:34What you don't know is that his four-year-old daughter
41:38is standing looking at her father, confused, begging him to wake up.
41:42Can you imagine what this wife and child are going through
41:45and what they will have to go through?
41:47They try to process what has happened.
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41:51We can start right here at the Victim and Witness Support Unit.
41:55From investigation to counseling, to helping families find justice,
42:00to helping families find peace,
42:03this unit gives victims and witnesses hope to cope.
42:08We are the Victim and Witness Support Unit,
42:11bridging the service gap between the victims, witnesses, and the police.
42:25And we are back. We are heading right back to the phone lines.
42:28Hello. Good evening.
42:30Good evening.
42:32Good evening, sir.
42:33Good evening, sir.
42:34Good.
42:35The subject today is this, because it's a hard question.
42:40I want you to tell me if I'm right or if I'm wrong.
42:46Please hold.
42:49I want you to tell me if I'm right or if I'm wrong.
42:53Please hold.
42:55I personally believe that all these actions should be done at a licensing office
43:01so we discourage some commentary on the matter.
43:05That is one.
43:07The other one, very hard question.
43:10I think you can answer it.
43:13Sometime in last year's budget,
43:15it was passed for the induction of 1,000 police officers.
43:20We are in the seventh month of the year.
43:24Can you give me an update as to how many have been inducted for this year
43:30and started training this year?
43:32Thank you.
43:34I will start with your last question.
43:36First caller.
43:38I can tell you that as recent as Monday, we had a batch of officers going in.
43:44Unfortunately, I don't have the exact figures at this point in time to tell you
43:48how much persons for the year has been trained,
43:51but I will provide that information for you in the not too distant future.
43:58Regarding the first question he asked, I did not get it.
44:01Licensing when doing a card transaction, we know the transfer.
44:06Yes, of course.
44:07Meaning if you are going to purchase the vehicle from an individual,
44:10apart from going to a police station, you could go to licensing to do that.
44:15It's an upshot.
44:18Remember, even the law provides that you can purchase a vehicle in the first instance
44:24and you can transfer it sometime after.
44:27You have seven days in which to do that.
44:29The transferring of your vehicle will take place at the licensing office.
44:33Obviously, they are the authority to deal with that.
44:36Where you would transact prior to that is always of concern for anyone who is right-minded
44:42and concerned about their safety.
44:45For that reason, we would ask persons,
44:47if you believe that licensing office is a place that you are comfortable and you are safe,
44:52then by all means, go to the licensing office and you conduct your transaction.
44:57Should they notify anyone there while doing that because it's not a transfer?
45:02Yes.
45:03To be very clear, there's a transaction of you exchanging this item for money.
45:09Yes.
45:10We would recommend, yes, that even if you go to the licensing authority
45:14and you have gone there just for the purpose of conducting this type of transaction,
45:18it's only courtesy and decency that you inform them as to what you are doing.
45:23You can also probably provide to them when you are going to come in to do the transfer,
45:27which should be within seven days.
45:29I shouldn't have a problem with the commissioner now.
45:32He's very inviting in the way in which they're dealing with a lot of their matters.
45:36Yes.
45:37We have another call on the line.
45:38Hello.
45:39Good evening.
45:40Hi.
45:41Good evening.
45:42How are you?
45:43Bless.
45:44How are you, sir?
45:45Good evening, sir.
45:46A gentleman called and spoke about the transaction at the police station
45:49and an officer called and said,
45:51tell this colleague, do not witness that.
45:54The officer with you apologized.
45:58Apologized for what?
46:00When you witness something, it's an offense.
46:02It's an authentication in terms of maybe your signature for something.
46:06If he was observing, that's something different.
46:08If he said, don't observe it, then that I have a problem with.
46:10But when he said, don't witness it,
46:12we don't know the nature of the transaction that you don't want him to witness.
46:17And as somebody called before and said, you should do those things really.
46:22You can come and make that transaction more legitimate.
46:25The police station, yes.
46:26But asking the officer to witness that,
46:29I think that is a dangerous precedent that people will be setting.
46:31And it was right for him not to witness it.
46:33If he could observe something happening and whatever the case may be.
46:36But the witness, I feel, may have wanted to authenticate it
46:39by some form of signature or something to that effect.
46:43It's a picture taken.
46:44And I think we have to be very careful with that.
46:46Thank you for that.
46:48I understand what he's saying.
46:50And that's why I said, that part of witnessing is up to the officer.
46:54But is it true the officer doesn't want to be a witness also
46:58in case something happens?
47:00That he has to now be, yes, we know what it is,
47:03but to make a report on this transaction
47:06that they really didn't really want to be a part of.
47:08Of course.
47:09Even though it's their choice.
47:10But in any event, persons coming onto our compound,
47:13it is important that we have an understanding as to who they are.
47:18And we chronicle why they were there in the first place.
47:21You know, actually being witnessed it directly, again,
47:26as I said before, that would be dependent on the officers
47:30who are there considering what the transaction is
47:33and how they view it and things of that nature.
47:36But in any event, just their being there and having that information
47:40chronicled in itself would tell a story.
47:43It would tell a story as to their purpose for being on the compound.
47:48He said in relation to the caller who spoke to why we apologize
47:52for the officer saying that he's not going to witness.
47:57I don't think he said it's a case of straight out the officer said
48:01he's not going to witness.
48:02It's a case of, and I'm hoping that I got it right,
48:05that they didn't want to have the transaction in itself
48:09done on the compound.
48:11And we are seeing that based on what is happening now,
48:15I mean, the police station is a safe space.
48:17It's supposed to be.
48:18Yes, it's supposed to be a safe space.
48:20And for that reason, you know, we open our doors to persons who,
48:24if you believe that at that point in time, this is your only port of call,
48:28because we are using vehicle as a general example,
48:31but there are so many other transactions that take place.
48:34Persons sell phones, persons sell jewelry,
48:37persons sell gaming consoles and all these things.
48:42And if it is that you have the view that within the police environment
48:46that you are a lot safer, again, we open our doors to that.
48:49Let's take that call.
48:50Hello, good evening.
48:53Hello.
48:54Good evening.
48:55Good evening, sir.
48:58Hello?
48:59Hello, you there?
49:00Yes, it's mom.
49:01Get here.
49:04Hello?
49:05Yes, you're live.
49:06Go ahead.
49:08All right.
49:09Well, I have a question.
49:13I want to find out concerning the school children with the graduation.
49:19They allow these children to go to school with class for years and months,
49:25and now for the graduation,
49:27why is it that they not allow them to go into their grad with their class?
49:35That is not right.
49:37All right.
49:38Well, ma'am, just letting you know that from what they stated,
49:41a consent form was sent to the parents beforehand, which they signed.
49:46So once they signed that, they set the rules,
49:49and if you sign, that means you agreed.
49:52And it's all on the school and their rules.
49:54But the issue that we had there was when the officers came in
49:56and how they dealt with it because you were involved in that situation.
50:00Yes, preserving the peace.
50:01Yes.
50:02Yeah, so we have to take a break.
50:03When we come back, we'll wrap things up.
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51:29And we are back.
51:30It's time for us to wrap things up in this segment, Acting ASP Pitt.
51:34This is your opportunity to speak to the public.
51:37Yes, and thank you.
51:39So again, we want to reiterate,
51:43we want to impress on the minds of members of the public
51:46that we have some personal responsibility regarding our safety,
51:49regarding our security, our loved ones, our community,
51:52trying to dig up our extension.
51:54Yes, our mantra is see something, say something.
51:58And with that, as an organization,
52:00we commit to have that follow-up type of action
52:04that will treat with whatever issues may have transpired.
52:09So as we were discussing in today's program,
52:12there is the issue of persons being lured and being tricked
52:20into sometimes selling things,
52:24other times purchasing things in places that are not safe.
52:29And we have had so many reports of those.
52:32Whitney, you will definitely be surprised.
52:35So we are asking members of the public,
52:37please conduct your transaction in safe spaces.
52:41We are saying that if you believe that the police station is a place
52:45that could, based on the type of transaction,
52:49it might be your port of call, we have no issue with that.
52:53There are other persons.
52:54Some of the callers mentioned license and office.
52:57We know of a transaction that took place, though, at a military base.
53:03The person felt comfortable doing it there.
53:05So they embraced them to do the transaction?
53:07Yeah, but unfortunately, it still wasn't a legitimate transaction.
53:13Not that it was unlawful, but the person was still tricked.
53:17The person was still tricked.
53:18So that brought them the comfort of thinking,
53:21it's safe, no problem, I'm going to come there and do the transaction.
53:26And that is why it is important.
53:29And you asked the question.
53:30It is important for us to have communication with the persons.
53:34So even if this person is up to no good,
53:37because there are some places you would go,
53:40you would go into the person's compound,
53:42they may not have an idea that you are there,
53:44you can go about your transaction,
53:46and then later on they realize you were tricked.
53:51If you engage the police officers,
53:54then you bring the police officers into the know
53:56as to the persons involved in the transaction.
53:58And I agree with the caller that it's not a case of the police
54:01having to commit to witness to anything,
54:03to say that, all right, I see this or I see that.
54:06But the police officers have a responsibility
54:08to log the persons who come into our compound
54:12for whatever purpose they are there.
54:14So that in itself could serve as some type of support
54:18to whatever transaction.
54:20And we urge our officers to ensure that it is legitimate.
54:24But what about persons, though,
54:26who they have their vehicle or their product
54:29and they are selling it to someone
54:31who then is the one who is the fraud?
54:34Yes, it has happened on numerous occasions.
54:36We're not speaking of the person who is claiming
54:38to sell the fraudulent one.
54:40Yes, it happens.
54:41So you have a manager's check and you're thinking,
54:43okay, well, this check should be fine.
54:45Or you receive a check because I don't deal with cash.
54:49So I deal with checks.
54:51And how would someone know that you're not being defrauded
54:54with that said check before handing over your item?
54:58Yes, yes, very good.
55:00And there are things that we can do.
55:02Sometimes the time of day is an indicator as to,
55:06you know, some persons are pressing for this thing to happen
55:09when outside of banking hours and all these things.
55:11You know, sometimes even the bank is a place
55:14if you need to do certain transactions.
55:16I was not going to ask that.
55:17Based on the type of transaction.
55:18Again, it's not limited.
55:19We are not saying all transactions to receive.
55:21We are not saying that.
55:22There are some transactions.
55:23Definitely the bank might be the best place to treat it
55:26based on your concerns that I'm satisfied that I'm getting.
55:29So if you go to the bank and you give the check over
55:32for them to check, you'll be like, okay,
55:34now I can hand over the keys.
55:35Now I can hand over the item.
55:37And make sure the person who is also receiving,
55:39who is purchasing, they see the item as well
55:42before handing over their payment to go to the bank
55:44to do the transaction.
55:45Exactly, exactly.
55:46So whatever environment, it must be in alignment
55:49with whatever transaction that is taking place.
55:52And we are asking persons to please be aware.
55:56Don't throw caution to the wind.
55:58Because a lot of persons, and it is happening,
56:01it is happening at a rate that truly it is unacceptable.
56:06And again, we believe that persons have a responsibility.
56:10You have a responsibility to be conscious.
56:12You have a responsibility to question things.
56:14You have a responsibility to ensure
56:16that you make a good decision.
56:17And you have the responsibility to trust your gut.
56:19Thank you so much for being here
56:22representing the Northern North Division.
56:24Just a quick reminder, don't forget,
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56:45TNT, we get ready for news coming up next at 7 p.m.
56:48Always remember, be pure and just
56:50and have God in your life no matter what.
56:52We'll be back tomorrow.
56:53Go to your life.
56:54We're out.
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