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00:01:41 - Slavery, a terrible time in our history.
00:01:45 The kidnapping, buying and selling of people for profit,
00:01:49 the exploitation of another human being.
00:01:52 It still exists today.
00:01:53 It has a new name, human trafficking.
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00:01:59 There is forced labor,
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00:02:06 Human trafficking is a worldwide problem
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00:02:14 If you know of or suspect human trafficking activity,
00:02:18 call the counter-trafficking hotline at 800-4CTU
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00:02:24 Human trafficking is a crime.
00:02:27 Identify it, report it, stop it.
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00:02:41 - Good afternoon, Trinidad and Tobago.
00:02:47 It's hot in here.
00:02:49 Jackie, if it's hot in here,
00:02:52 the commissioner police might be upset,
00:02:54 but I might have to take off all my clothes.
00:02:57 It is very hot today.
00:02:59 Let me say good afternoon to all the persons
00:03:02 in Trinidad and Tobago looking at the program today.
00:03:04 Same thing applies today.
00:03:06 We have an abridged version.
00:03:08 After me on the tape, we have the news, TV6 News,
00:03:11 and thereafter, CPL Cricket.
00:03:15 We have some issues today that we'd like to bring
00:03:18 to members of the public's attention.
00:03:22 And I am somewhat the persons between,
00:03:29 who I stand between sometimes.
00:03:32 People see me as a person who stands between
00:03:33 law enforcement and the good citizens
00:03:37 to take information back and forth, back and forth.
00:03:39 They have given me that role.
00:03:43 And last night,
00:03:44 I was struck for words because I mentioned this
00:03:50 on this program before with Marlon Hopkinson here,
00:03:53 in terms of information about victims
00:03:59 in the public domain.
00:04:05 Now, let's take a look at the video
00:04:07 as to what happened last night.
00:04:10 And then we'll have a conversation
00:04:12 as to exactly what angle I'm coming from.
00:04:16 So this happened last night just outside
00:04:19 Express House TV6 compound, just outside,
00:04:23 where two persons, two persons,
00:04:27 was on the outside.
00:04:34 And they were approached by men
00:04:35 who attempted to rob them.
00:04:39 As a result of what took place,
00:04:45 the men defended themselves,
00:04:49 which resulted in a man being shot.
00:04:53 You understand the man is from the Duncan Street.
00:05:02 He was from the area known to the police.
00:05:07 He was taken to hospital where he was examined.
00:05:15 Persons called from different directions
00:05:22 as to what was happening.
00:05:23 The quick response from law enforcement,
00:05:26 the Port of Spain Task Force,
00:05:27 the Interagency Task Force,
00:05:32 the CCPU unit,
00:05:35 and other police officers in the Port of Spain area.
00:05:43 And this is where the problem lie.
00:05:49 I had communication today
00:05:54 with a senior person in the justice system
00:06:00 and he shared my views.
00:06:04 The time has come, and this is for my organization as well,
00:06:12 the time has come for us to change that method
00:06:17 that we use to give out information
00:06:22 to members of the public.
00:06:23 Because in the public domain,
00:06:29 I saw a number of laws.
00:06:34 I saw a person's name.
00:06:39 I saw a person's address.
00:06:43 I saw what persons had illegal rights to have.
00:06:48 And all of that.
00:06:51 And to me, that is not necessary at this time.
00:06:57 I think my institution, my organization,
00:06:59 we need to reconsider
00:07:01 giving out information as to the names
00:07:09 or especially the address of victims of crime.
00:07:14 And I will tell you why I say this openly,
00:07:20 because to some extent, we want to make sure
00:07:25 to some extent, we want members of the public
00:07:28 to make a report, to come to law enforcement
00:07:32 and to be satisfied that they would have played their role.
00:07:38 And we are asking this every single day of the week.
00:07:41 I think it is best in the public interest
00:07:47 for us not to publish certain information
00:07:54 about victims until,
00:07:57 or if that situation appears on an information
00:08:02 to be taken to a court.
00:08:05 Too many times we see information about a man,
00:08:11 a victim of crime.
00:08:12 Mr. A was at home with his wife,
00:08:18 Jennifer, his two son, Marlon and Roger.
00:08:23 And there's a whole lot of information we're giving here
00:08:26 and the address of the place.
00:08:27 Together sometimes the media contributes to this,
00:08:29 putting a photograph of the residence.
00:08:32 And then we make statements like this.
00:08:35 He was conducting business.
00:08:39 He had $100,000 in his possession.
00:08:42 Our men came and he took out his FUL
00:08:50 and all that information.
00:08:51 So tell me how that information is pertinent
00:08:56 information for public view.
00:08:58 Our responsibility as law enforcement officers,
00:09:06 we have to protect the citizen, the victim of crime.
00:09:11 And when we do that, what are we really achieving by it?
00:09:21 When we put that person's name and address in reports,
00:09:26 we might think is the right thing to do
00:09:30 because everybody wants to know.
00:09:31 But are we really protecting the victim of crimes
00:09:37 or even encouraging them
00:09:39 or make them encourage other persons to make report
00:09:42 when that is done?
00:09:43 We need to do business
00:09:48 where that is concerned differently.
00:09:51 We need to reconsider this
00:09:52 because we are trying to gain the public trust
00:09:56 and confidence.
00:09:58 And I'm not seeing it being done in any logical way
00:10:02 where we take that particular view,
00:10:04 when we use that system that we are presently using.
00:10:07 And this is not just for law enforcement,
00:10:09 but for members of the media.
00:10:12 Is all that information pertinent to your story?
00:10:20 When we say that persons have in their possession an FUL,
00:10:25 what have we done?
00:10:26 When we give the person's name and address
00:10:30 down to the letter, number five,
00:10:36 down the street,
00:10:40 and then the show house,
00:10:43 tell me to what value have we added
00:10:50 to the victim of crime?
00:10:51 And then we have the social media
00:10:56 who sometimes have no discretion whatsoever.
00:11:03 They don't care if we have a court matter to attend.
00:11:07 They don't care if when we put these people up
00:11:11 in the public domain,
00:11:13 what consequences could follow thereafter
00:11:16 in terms of how the court feels
00:11:19 and if that could be used
00:11:21 to pursue a magistrate or judge to set these persons free.
00:11:26 But we put it up anyway because
00:11:30 there are no consequences to our actions.
00:11:34 Until the court starts to call persons in
00:11:40 as witness to these events,
00:11:43 I don't see a change coming.
00:11:49 Last night, I received calls from persons,
00:11:54 families in tears, crying because of what was done.
00:11:59 And I'm a law enforcement officer,
00:12:01 how can I feel comfortable
00:12:04 knowing that it could be
00:12:09 somebody from within the organization or
00:12:13 some other person
00:12:17 putting that information out there?
00:12:19 How can a family sleep comfortably?
00:12:23 How can they continue to have trust and confidence
00:12:29 in law enforcement when we do things like that?
00:12:31 I think this is the time for us to call in everyone
00:12:39 and introduce a policy
00:12:43 where pertinent information
00:12:47 must be withheld
00:12:48 until the matter is being treated in a court of law
00:12:55 because we are putting victims of crime,
00:12:59 lives in danger by the things that we do.
00:13:02 It's very difficult at times because the court,
00:13:10 there are systems in law that protects
00:13:16 the witness.
00:13:17 We have seen it here time and time again
00:13:22 where persons are asked to produce or to give
00:13:25 the name of the informant in any court.
00:13:30 And they did not because, they could not
00:13:37 because it puts the life of the person in danger.
00:13:40 But here we are, we are victims of crime.
00:13:45 And every social media, every newspaper
00:13:49 putting this information out there
00:13:53 without taking into consideration
00:13:57 what could happen to the victim.
00:14:02 I think we need to reconsider that action
00:14:06 as soon as possible and something needs to change
00:14:10 for us to be able to better protect.
00:14:13 The victims of crime before it is too late.
00:14:18 All right, having said that,
00:14:22 I'm not, it's Jackie speaking in Spanish.
00:14:26 All right, and then yesterday,
00:14:30 yesterday I said on national television,
00:14:33 I said everybody was running to Meyarro
00:14:37 because they were of the opinion that
00:14:41 cocaine is on the beaches for free.
00:14:43 So persons are going up to Meyarro,
00:14:47 all of a sudden, Meyarro have a excursion
00:14:52 during the week.
00:14:54 Meyarro have trips to Meyarro during the week
00:14:59 because everybody is hearing that cocaine is floating up
00:15:04 on the beaches of Meyarro.
00:15:08 But I also told you that law enforcement
00:15:12 is using every sneaky tactic
00:15:15 to catch persons who's coming in with intentions
00:15:22 to take possession of that illegal drug.
00:15:25 Up to a couple of days ago, the senior superintendent
00:15:30 of the Eastern Division, Mr. Khan and his officers
00:15:33 were up there in their numbers.
00:15:36 And yesterday, yesterday,
00:15:38 officers from the Eastern Division engaged some persons
00:15:45 in an exchange of gunfire.
00:15:47 And after the smoke was cleared,
00:15:51 one man received injuries and a firearm was recovered.
00:15:57 And a short distance away,
00:16:05 36 packets of a cream-like substance
00:16:10 resembling that of cocaine was found.
00:16:15 And a short distance away from this,
00:16:21 a vehicle behind a fake number plate.
00:16:26 Is that the same number of the cocaine?
00:16:33 You're not sure?
00:16:34 I saw a number on the cocaine,
00:16:35 or some writing on the cocaine.
00:16:37 Anyhow, this vehicle was found abandoned
00:16:42 and the number plates together with a magazine,
00:16:47 this extended magazine, and several rungs of ammunition.
00:16:54 As we speak, several operations are taking place.
00:17:01 Some covert, I want you to hear that,
00:17:03 operations are taking place in the Mayaro area.
00:17:06 I suggest to members of the public,
00:17:13 if you have no business in Mayaro,
00:17:16 stay away at this time and allow the police to do their job.
00:17:21 Because yesterday when I mentioned persons
00:17:24 that entered Mayaro and plain stick him up with each other,
00:17:28 stick him up here, stick him up there,
00:17:29 stick him up, stick him up, stick him up everywhere,
00:17:32 and robbing persons, you have, you have,
00:17:34 I hear you have, I hear you get, and so they're going.
00:17:37 Resulting in bans being shut and eventually murders.
00:17:41 Again, good law-abiding citizen, anybody with information,
00:17:46 you can call the Nevis Police Station,
00:17:48 555-800-TIPS, call the 999 police emergency line.
00:17:52 Mayaro, again, if you have any information, let us know,
00:17:59 because it might be used to protect you,
00:18:01 sometimes from you or from other persons.
00:18:05 We go into a short break and after,
00:18:07 feel free to call 623-1711.
00:18:10 623-1711, extension 1992, 1993, 1996, and 1997.
00:18:15 Let's take a short break, when we come back,
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00:19:38 - And welcome back, Asif.
00:19:43 What is this going on here?
00:19:44 Why are you lighting up the phone and telling me all of this?
00:19:47 You need to tell me that before.
00:19:49 You know?
00:19:50 They have information on Miss Jackie.
00:19:53 Anyway, members of the public, again,
00:19:55 yesterday, and on social media,
00:20:00 we are seeing a number of events taking place.
00:20:02 One that got the attention of persons in national security.
00:20:09 Let's take a look at what happened,
00:20:12 we understand, in Tobago.
00:20:13 All right.
00:20:18 Members of the public are saying,
00:20:19 look, they're seeing members of the defense force,
00:20:22 police officers, in a situation in Tobago.
00:20:25 Where a number of persons wanted to take on
00:20:36 the protective arm in Tobago,
00:20:41 celebrating 61 years of independence
00:20:44 in a couple days time.
00:20:46 Next week, Thursday, is it?
00:20:48 Yeah?
00:20:51 And they want to take us on.
00:20:53 When I told you, now, I understand that an investigation
00:20:57 was launched into this by the senior superintendent
00:21:00 of Tobago, Mr. Jackman.
00:21:04 But when I said to members of the public,
00:21:08 what we allow to happen
00:21:11 is going to spill onto the nation's streets.
00:21:17 Community after community, area after area,
00:21:21 tongue after tongue, borough after borough,
00:21:24 and so we go in.
00:21:25 Because persons have lost their respect for law enforcement
00:21:30 and for the rule of law on a whole.
00:21:33 So in order to take it back,
00:21:37 sometimes you have to fight and use the force necessary.
00:21:44 Because one person grabbing your firearm
00:21:48 at that location and riddling the place.
00:21:52 I said it again, I'll say it again,
00:21:56 riddling the place automatically,
00:21:59 then we'll be accounting for many men.
00:22:02 Many, many, many, many men at that location.
00:22:07 Law enforcement must defend and protect
00:22:14 themselves and the equipment given to them.
00:22:17 Because if someone take possession of the equipment
00:22:20 at any one time,
00:22:21 you ever hear people say, "Jackie, death shall be a portion."
00:22:26 The citizenry continue to rebel
00:22:31 because they have support in the public domain
00:22:34 to rebel against law enforcement.
00:22:37 Someone called, continue to ask the question
00:22:39 on this program, "Alexander, why not give them distance?"
00:22:44 Distance away from law enforcement.
00:22:46 Jackie, I look like a friday because the place hot.
00:22:51 All right, so if I look like I just need something
00:22:55 between the place is hot, something is going on.
00:22:59 Marlon came here sometimes during the day
00:23:00 and took me a condition off
00:23:01 because he knew he would not be here
00:23:02 for me to be hot under the collar.
00:23:05 However, that has not perturbed me.
00:23:07 So what he's saying is that give law enforcement
00:23:11 some distance and should be put in law and all of that.
00:23:14 But then I want him to remember this.
00:23:17 Some years ago, someone told members of the public
00:23:21 to take a camera, your phone,
00:23:23 and go up to law enforcement to make sure
00:23:26 you can get everything, what he's saying and all.
00:23:29 And they took that as gospel of the day
00:23:32 and that they believe in.
00:23:36 But now the pepper spray, the taser,
00:23:41 the use of force must challenge that request
00:23:47 or that instructions from those individuals
00:23:53 because it cannot continue.
00:23:55 Until someone ruffs away, takes away
00:24:03 the property belonging to the state known as a firearm
00:24:06 and in the process probably uses it
00:24:10 against persons or law enforcement,
00:24:12 then that up on the close love breaking situation
00:24:17 involving when law enforcement
00:24:18 is trying to execute their duty
00:24:20 and persons up under them trying to flex
00:24:23 or something would not stop.
00:24:25 So I quite agree with the caller
00:24:28 when he spoke the distance.
00:24:30 But then if it has been encouraged by those persons,
00:24:35 then persons are seen it fit to continue it.
00:24:39 We in the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service,
00:24:43 we have no objections to persons wanting to record
00:24:47 because we'll continue to move professionally
00:24:49 in the execution of our duties.
00:24:54 But it must not be done obstructing me
00:24:57 or hampering me in the execution of the set duties.
00:25:00 At that stage, you will be peppered spread if I have,
00:25:06 you will be tasered if I have.
00:25:09 And if you bring force that requires me to use my firearm,
00:25:13 then to use it I will.
00:25:16 Good evening caller.
00:25:17 - How do you mute the TV?
00:25:22 How do you mute the TV?
00:25:24 - Go down.
00:25:25 Take up all the volume on it.
00:25:27 Just turn it down.
00:25:29 - Turn down the volume?
00:25:31 - Yeah, take them all.
00:25:32 Just take them all and talk to me.
00:25:33 Talk to me on the phone and not from on the TV.
00:25:35 - Okay, I am turning down all the thing on the phone.
00:25:41 I'm muted.
00:25:41 I turn it down.
00:25:42 - Tell me.
00:25:43 - Yeah.
00:25:45 You would like to know my question, Superintendent?
00:25:49 - Yes, ma'am.
00:25:51 - Okay, my question, Superintendent, is
00:25:55 why is the SRP officers with 10 years and more service
00:26:00 not being absorbed in the police service?
00:26:06 - Well, let me share this with you.
00:26:09 And ma'am, I want you to hear me.
00:26:11 You might want to quote me, but I will say this to you.
00:26:15 First of all, there's a process taking place at this time
00:26:21 involving the Police Service Welfare Association.
00:26:26 President, Mr. Dixon, the Commission of Police,
00:26:30 they are engaged in talks as I speak
00:26:33 to have the situation involving manpower,
00:26:39 the manpower resources rectified
00:26:43 by the use of the Special Reserve Police.
00:26:44 Now, hear me?
00:26:47 While that is good, remember,
00:26:51 we must not sell the Special Reserve Police officers
00:26:56 the dream of being absorbed.
00:27:00 Because I often encourage each and every one of them
00:27:04 to qualify yourself.
00:27:06 And if qualifying yourself means five O-level subjects,
00:27:09 get your five O-level subjects,
00:27:12 even as a Special Reserve Police,
00:27:13 and give yourselves the opportunity to walk in the door
00:27:17 and have a foot inside, because you're already here.
00:27:20 So we don't want persons to believe that,
00:27:23 you know, from the time I joined the Special Reserve,
00:27:25 when they're absorbing us, when they're absorbing us.
00:27:28 No, qualify yourself.
00:27:31 But who knows what will happen in the coming months?
00:27:34 We wait and see, yeah?
00:27:36 All right, and then we had a situation.
00:27:42 Something happened in Diamondville.
00:27:46 And someone had some things to say about it.
00:27:48 You want to listen to it?
00:27:50 And then we will, yeah, in fact,
00:27:52 he was the victim of a home invasion, eh?
00:27:55 Let us listen to it, and then we'll have a conversation.
00:28:00 Take a listen to this.
00:28:01 - Yeah, fellas.
00:28:03 That was me, my family, mom, dad, wife, and my eldest son.
00:28:10 This morning, around one o'clock,
00:28:15 there must have been, I was waiting for mom to come back home.
00:28:17 She was by her sister, it was her sister's birthday.
00:28:20 And she called and said she's on her way back.
00:28:22 So I went outside, I lived next door.
00:28:23 I went outside to open the gate for her.
00:28:25 Opened the gate, locked the gate, she drove in.
00:28:29 And when she came out, she said the window by the door,
00:28:33 kitchen door, looked like it was,
00:28:35 someone was trying to open it.
00:28:36 And I said, "What do you mean?"
00:28:38 And we spoke for about maybe three, five seconds.
00:28:41 And then the bandits came around from the corner.
00:28:45 Mom with a gun pointed at me, put me on the ground.
00:28:48 They dragged my mom inside the kitchen.
00:28:52 Mom was screaming, so they kicked her and cuffed her.
00:28:54 And eventually, well, they brought me inside
00:29:01 to lay on the ground as well.
00:29:03 Where's the money, where's this, that?
00:29:05 I said, "Listen, we don't have any money.
00:29:06 "Take what you want, just please leave us."
00:29:08 Then went inside my bedroom, my father.
00:29:13 They tried to kick down the bathroom door where he was.
00:29:15 Told him to come outside, it'll be fine
00:29:17 because they were agitating them.
00:29:19 We all went in their bedroom.
00:29:22 They put us on the ground, face down.
00:29:24 Eventually, they got the car keys.
00:29:27 And then I heard them say again, "Lay down on the ground."
00:29:31 And I said, "Who the hell is that?"
00:29:33 That was my wife and my other son
00:29:34 that came across from next door.
00:29:35 I said, "Shit, now I have two boys home next door
00:29:39 "and I hope they lock the door."
00:29:42 And I hope they didn't ask where they came from.
00:29:44 They did say, "Where did they come from?"
00:29:45 I said, "Probably neighborhood."
00:29:47 The neighbors heard the commotion.
00:29:50 Anyway, long story short, they took the car, they left.
00:29:54 And that's that, thank God we're still alive.
00:29:57 And yeah, processing what happened.
00:30:01 Take care, be safe.
00:30:04 - Just imagine you, yes, you're listening
00:30:08 to the victim of crime.
00:30:11 And the ordeal that one has to go through.
00:30:13 How many of this story do we have to listen to again?
00:30:18 As we approach that Christmas season
00:30:24 when the demand for money becomes more,
00:30:26 how much of this story we have to listen to again?
00:30:31 Let me say to this gentleman who spoke earlier,
00:30:39 law enforcement is not going to stand idly by
00:30:42 and allow these things to happen.
00:30:44 If we have information, we'll treat with the information.
00:30:48 And you being a victim of crime now,
00:30:50 I'm hoping that the support you have,
00:30:54 or may have had before,
00:30:57 or the lack of support for law enforcement changes
00:31:00 as these things happen, because now more than ever,
00:31:03 we have another person to work with us
00:31:07 in this fight against crime.
00:31:09 And this is not how we want to get the workers.
00:31:12 We want persons to be able to understand
00:31:16 and use your civil duty to help law enforcement
00:31:21 because it's yours.
00:31:23 We can help all persons.
00:31:25 All we need is information.
00:31:27 That is not a difficult task.
00:31:30 It takes a phone call, and on a most of times,
00:31:33 if you want to, some of you all are brave
00:31:35 and ready to assist law enforcement.
00:31:38 Good afternoon, caller.
00:31:39 - Superintendent Alexander, good afternoon.
00:31:43 - Good afternoon, sir.
00:31:44 - I always call and talk about the distance
00:31:47 between police and civilians when in the kind of--
00:31:49 - I just spoke about you, man.
00:31:51 I just spoke about you.
00:31:52 - Yeah, I know you, I know you.
00:31:53 But I have a question for you.
00:31:54 My question is this.
00:31:56 Based on what I saw in Tobago,
00:31:58 that unruly behavior and people grabbing and stuff
00:32:00 and pushing, if one of them guys hold on to the baron
00:32:04 of one of the officers gun and his finger
00:32:07 in the trigger, guard somebody and the safety not on
00:32:09 and he pull on the gun,
00:32:11 I mean, that could be a real catastrophe.
00:32:14 I mean, I don't know what will happen,
00:32:16 but if the guard not on the finger, go on the trigger,
00:32:18 it will come out.
00:32:19 And that, you know, I listen off here
00:32:22 because we're going to break that.
00:32:23 Thank you very much.
00:32:24 - I call on time, so they call as usual.
00:32:26 You see, caller, it doesn't take very long sometimes
00:32:29 for us to understand that the civilian looking
00:32:32 from the outside will have ideas.
00:32:34 And we must now try to incorporate those ideas
00:32:37 into our policing.
00:32:39 Because you are right, that distance,
00:32:41 it is important now more than ever,
00:32:43 because as the society becomes more violent,
00:32:45 we are like, we're waiting to see what will happen next.
00:32:49 I wonder what the last people did this,
00:32:51 I wonder what this set is going to do.
00:32:54 And one of these days we're going to be waiting
00:32:56 and something dread is going to happen.
00:32:59 So again, the time has come for us to reach out
00:33:02 and fix these things before it is too late.
00:33:05 Let's take a short break again.
00:33:06 When we come back more, I'll be on the tape.
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00:34:19 (upbeat music)
00:34:22 - And we are back.
00:34:23 Yesterday, again, this is yesterday Eastern,
00:34:27 yesterday Northeastern,
00:34:31 where they went on an operation
00:34:35 and they were greeted by men now more than ever
00:34:40 who believes that they can go one-on-one
00:34:42 with law enforcement in an exchange of gunfire.
00:34:47 Because it is in the habit,
00:34:48 they are in the habit of shooting persons
00:34:51 on the nation streets.
00:34:52 So they believe that when law enforcement confronts them,
00:34:56 they can continue their trend or their behavior.
00:34:58 Last night or yesterday,
00:35:01 officers from the Northeastern Division Task Force,
00:35:04 together with support agencies
00:35:08 from the Northeastern Division
00:35:09 under Soudja Superintendent Mr. Edwards,
00:35:13 went to Councilman, the area of Mova,
00:35:17 where they are having some challenges.
00:35:21 But before we go to them and the outcome,
00:35:25 this individual that we're about to show you,
00:35:28 yes, this individual,
00:35:29 went live on a video
00:35:33 and explaining his behavioral patterns,
00:35:38 yeah,
00:35:42 talking about what he will do,
00:35:45 what he would not do,
00:35:47 where his guns at,
00:35:51 having persons living in fear in Mova,
00:35:55 they're afraid, they're afraid,
00:35:57 everybody afraid because he is the baddest thing
00:36:02 since badness come out.
00:36:06 (silence)
00:36:08 We know what he did.
00:36:14 There's a youth man that died.
00:36:18 We know what he did.
00:36:21 So yesterday,
00:36:26 officers confronted this gentleman
00:36:28 who ran under a house with a mattock,
00:36:33 yeah,
00:36:36 and he ran under the house and he knock it.
00:36:39 And as a result of that,
00:36:44 law enforcement had to retaliate
00:36:47 in order to save their own lives.
00:36:49 This man was shot
00:36:56 and he succumbed to his injuries.
00:36:59 For those who interested in the outcome,
00:37:06 (silence)
00:37:08 the Professional Standards Bureau,
00:37:09 the Police Complaints Authority,
00:37:13 our first division officer,
00:37:16 and sometimes assisted by the homicide,
00:37:20 is going to do an investigation into the law enforcement,
00:37:22 the conduct of the law enforcement officers.
00:37:26 I say no more on that.
00:37:32 Santa Cruz CID recovers a vehicle.
00:37:37 Now, it is in the condition that the owner
00:37:42 did not leave it.
00:37:45 Take a look at this.
00:37:47 (upbeat music)
00:37:51 - Welcome to Santa Cruz Police Station.
00:37:58 Officers of Santa Cruz CID,
00:37:59 in collaboration with Sour CID,
00:38:01 will have conducted a exercise,
00:38:03 firearm termination.
00:38:05 A warrant was executed in Santa Cruz area.
00:38:07 No firearms were found.
00:38:10 However, a three-ton truck
00:38:12 with a passport and a lance was found.
00:38:15 Same as the police station,
00:38:18 until we were able to provide documents.
00:38:21 Or, we shared that with the public,
00:38:26 probably, information,
00:38:27 probably, like, stolen or lost,
00:38:31 or pieces taken from them,
00:38:33 but no unauthorized,
00:38:35 or any information with respect to the same,
00:38:39 could come to this police station.
00:38:41 However, please walk with your proper documents
00:38:46 to verify.
00:38:53 - Part of the door.
00:38:54 Passport here.
00:38:57 Bumper, fender, chunk.
00:39:00 We've got a vehicle.
00:39:06 I think about three-quarters of my vehicle,
00:39:08 only parts.
00:39:09 (upbeat music)
00:39:12 - Excellent work done by the officers
00:39:27 of the Santa Cruz CID,
00:39:29 the San Juan CID.
00:39:31 And, you know what is strange about this?
00:39:34 You, as a car owner,
00:39:35 you could have lost your vehicle,
00:39:39 never found it back.
00:39:40 You probably went and purchased a next one,
00:39:44 and got in an accident.
00:39:47 And then, you went and purchased parts
00:39:51 for the same kind of car,
00:39:52 so you bought Elantra parts
00:39:53 because you bought another Elantra,
00:39:55 and then you are really driving wrong
00:39:57 in a double whammy,
00:39:58 because that is parts from your car
00:39:59 that is stolen before,
00:40:00 and you put it on a new car
00:40:02 that you just had an accident with.
00:40:03 Remember that, the public,
00:40:06 this is what's happening.
00:40:08 But we make it no excuses whatsoever,
00:40:10 because we intend to take the nascent streets,
00:40:14 and when we do that,
00:40:15 we continue to control crime.
00:40:17 Who needs to be punished will be punished.
00:40:19 Who abide by the rules of law will accept that.
00:40:23 It is what it is.
00:40:24 Good afternoon, Kola.
00:40:27 There's a moment of silence.
00:40:33 Kola, are you there?
00:40:34 - Good day, good day, good day, my brother.
00:40:36 How are you doing, sir?
00:40:38 (Kola laughs)
00:40:40 - I need to fight with you, you know, buddy.
00:40:42 I want to ask you a question before
00:40:44 I run into a misperceivement.
00:40:46 - Absolutely.
00:40:47 - We have to find out,
00:40:48 do they have schools that do not teach in violence,
00:40:52 or teach in how to make mischief or something,
00:40:54 or all of a sudden,
00:40:56 the superintendent of this thing
00:40:57 re-evented to its highest level.
00:41:00 Everybody is interested,
00:41:01 like you're going to a technical school
00:41:03 to learn to violence and killings?
00:41:05 - Hmm.
00:41:06 Kola?
00:41:07 - Something.
00:41:08 - Yeah.
00:41:09 I will tell you what.
00:41:10 - What I would say is that,
00:41:12 from where this would start, superintendent,
00:41:15 the policy of interrupting a police in their duties,
00:41:20 this is from the,
00:41:22 a few years now,
00:41:23 and getting worse and worse.
00:41:25 Who will make that stipulation?
00:41:27 Is the commissioner police have to advocate that?
00:41:30 And then the law had to be revisited?
00:41:33 Many times, police making arrests,
00:41:35 or they fixing something,
00:41:38 or they in a confrontation to try to bring peace.
00:41:41 The whole crowd around them,
00:41:43 so you don't know who have gun,
00:41:45 who have knife,
00:41:46 who have bow and arrow,
00:41:47 who have nothing.
00:41:48 I believe that some precedent have said,
00:41:50 at this time,
00:41:52 any time a police is performing a duty,
00:41:55 75 feet away.
00:41:57 Anything closer,
00:41:58 throw you in the van.
00:41:59 You know a long time ago,
00:42:00 in a van they called the blue Gardena?
00:42:02 Yes.
00:42:03 (laughs)
00:42:03 Yes, sir.
00:42:04 (laughs)
00:42:05 - Yeah.
00:42:06 It's the training back there,
00:42:07 because these people are too small,
00:42:09 to put them in a,
00:42:10 so I want to know,
00:42:11 this thing I mean to say, superintendent,
00:42:13 it have to stop,
00:42:13 you all gave too much an interruption in a duty.
00:42:16 Everybody, camera,
00:42:18 like they have more news media,
00:42:20 and selling all sort of false things.
00:42:22 Get rid of these people,
00:42:23 and stay far.
00:42:25 75 feet good,
00:42:26 and stay.
00:42:27 I want you come close,
00:42:28 lock you up for that,
00:42:29 because you interrupt the police.
00:42:30 What do you think?
00:42:31 - Thank you very much, Cola.
00:42:32 And you know we always,
00:42:33 we listen,
00:42:34 and we have no choice,
00:42:36 and probably I'll try to invigorate,
00:42:37 my commission of police,
00:42:39 or my deputy commission of police,
00:42:41 to give that instruction,
00:42:42 because it is necessary,
00:42:44 now more than ever,
00:42:45 because we don't want to wait,
00:42:46 and next you know,
00:42:47 police officers get into a confrontation,
00:42:49 then because of what happened,
00:42:51 the innocent persons,
00:42:52 might feel the effect of it.
00:42:55 So it's a good idea,
00:42:56 in terms of that distancing,
00:42:57 now more than ever.
00:42:59 - Well I also want to tell you this,
00:43:02 you can't get young men,
00:43:03 some young men and women,
00:43:05 to do the right thing.
00:43:08 Now the other day,
00:43:09 the prison services had recruitment,
00:43:12 and a man jumped up and said,
00:43:13 Alexander you know,
00:43:15 look how much good youths,
00:43:16 it have now going to be prison officers.
00:43:19 And I said okay,
00:43:22 I hear you.
00:43:23 But until the contrary is proven,
00:43:27 I could get five O level subjects,
00:43:30 and I could want to come in,
00:43:33 but my intentions might not be the same,
00:43:36 as the other man standing next to me,
00:43:38 who really wants the job,
00:43:39 and who really wants to make a difference.
00:43:42 I'm trying to get in,
00:43:44 so I could get in,
00:43:45 and fill every part of me,
00:43:48 and get some of them even longer than some.
00:43:51 So it's why we would say that,
00:43:53 good person,
00:43:54 look how much young men and women great,
00:43:56 you know.
00:43:56 Well until these persons are vetted properly,
00:44:00 we have to wait you know.
00:44:03 And that is what is making the process,
00:44:05 now more tedious than before.
00:44:07 That's why recruitment in this police service,
00:44:08 cannot be a rush anymore,
00:44:10 because of the behavior of some of our young citizens.
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00:45:18 - And welcome back.
00:45:28 Again, today we have an abridged version.
00:45:30 So we are just here for one hour.
00:45:32 And after the TV six news,
00:45:35 we'll be up next and then the CPL cricket.
00:45:39 All right.
00:45:40 There was a situation that existed in East Trinidad,
00:45:44 St. Augustine to be exact,
00:45:45 where some men were seen
00:45:47 and members of the public formed an opinion.
00:45:50 Now this video shows two men,
00:45:54 dress up in a particular way.
00:45:57 Now I want TNTEC to also understand
00:46:02 what the citizens are going through,
00:46:05 because that dress code is consistent
00:46:10 with persons behaving strange.
00:46:12 So I understand on both sides,
00:46:16 what was happening here.
00:46:18 This is the point that the criminal elements
00:46:21 has brought us to.
00:46:23 They brought us to this point because of their behaviors.
00:46:27 So two men, we understand,
00:46:29 who are contracted employees of the TNTEC
00:46:32 went to treat it as situation.
00:46:35 However, we understand that it was not the right location.
00:46:40 Now, I remember some time ago,
00:46:43 persons asking if TNTEC could just come on your compound,
00:46:46 blah, blah, blah.
00:46:47 Now, the meter that you have in your home,
00:46:53 in your yard is in fact the property of TNTEC.
00:46:58 And if the meter belongs to TNTEC
00:47:04 and TNTEC wants to come and seize your meter,
00:47:10 then they would have to gain access.
00:47:13 What I am advising TNTEC to do at this time
00:47:19 as a law enforcement officer,
00:47:20 I understand that you all have your laws and regulations,
00:47:24 but because of how things are unfolding now more than ever,
00:47:27 I suggest that a phone call be made
00:47:31 or some indication that this property is having a problem
00:47:39 with the TNTEC.
00:47:42 And as a result of that, action would be taken against you.
00:47:46 Whether by phone call or TNTEC probably
00:47:52 you need to get your police officers,
00:47:53 your estate police together with your workers
00:47:57 to treat it as situation,
00:47:58 to avoid the complications that took place at this location.
00:48:03 We understand it may have been the wrong location too.
00:48:06 All right, and I must commend TNTEC
00:48:10 for sending out a media release as soon as possible
00:48:14 to treat with this situation.
00:48:17 So again, on the two sides, something happened.
00:48:22 The two sides would have done well.
00:48:24 The civilian made observations,
00:48:26 TNTEC made observations and they both responded.
00:48:29 So now we can go forward in a positive way.
00:48:32 All right, where are you Jackie?
00:48:35 You have a phone call.
00:48:36 - Good evening, caller.
00:48:38 - Good afternoon, sir, how are you?
00:48:40 - Good afternoon, I only said evening
00:48:41 because I saw Kostambini after six.
00:48:43 Good afternoon, sir.
00:48:46 - Good evening, sir.
00:48:47 - Yes, sir.
00:48:48 - I understand certain things that have to be done,
00:48:53 but I'm telling you, I spoke last week about these things
00:48:57 that I told you, the extreme,
00:48:59 that I went to the extreme,
00:49:01 but now they actually proved my extreme.
00:49:04 - Yes.
00:49:05 - I'm sorry I didn't get the call yesterday
00:49:08 because what is the purpose?
00:49:10 What is really happening?
00:49:11 You all catch a man, go and down in canal,
00:49:15 meet up and fight with the whole snake
00:49:17 and all scorpion and sand carpet,
00:49:19 and only to have a catch this man for murder
00:49:22 and then have a judge release four murderers
00:49:28 who was on death row.
00:49:32 One of them killed two old people.
00:49:35 So what it is?
00:49:38 Then that makes me think, what is the purpose of your job?
00:49:43 And I'm sure you will start to think,
00:49:45 well, what are you really doing all this for?
00:49:47 And now maybe you here see it.
00:49:50 So you wouldn't really think that,
00:49:51 but what about the young boys out there?
00:49:53 Who now coming up?
00:49:55 They feel disenchanted with each other now.
00:49:59 They're breaking the morale of the police.
00:50:01 This is madness.
00:50:05 And that is one.
00:50:06 Two sir, I mean, I've asked about this before
00:50:11 and many people get gifts,
00:50:13 but sir, this is the seventh time.
00:50:16 The seventh time we have problems.
00:50:19 Will you all wait to give me a gift when I'm dead?
00:50:22 How many times must I go through this problem?
00:50:26 How many times, Superintendent, you promised to call
00:50:30 and you never did.
00:50:32 I understand, of course, this is a comfort to a fool.
00:50:35 - Nah, I wouldn't fool you.
00:50:36 - So I can go back and make myself a fool.
00:50:39 So I will no longer wait for a call.
00:50:41 Neither would I be waiting for any response
00:50:46 from the commissioner of police.
00:50:48 What I will say is from this day,
00:50:51 any other person who got killed
00:50:58 during our own invasion,
00:51:01 their blood will lay at the feet of the COP.
00:51:06 Okay?
00:51:10 - All right, caller, I hear you.
00:51:12 Well, what I can say in the first instance
00:51:14 with respect to the murders, let me get that first.
00:51:17 The murders, caller, what we did, we did our job.
00:51:20 That's why they were able to apply for bail and all of that
00:51:23 or walk out of the court
00:51:25 because they had to walk out of the court
00:51:27 because we put them in the system.
00:51:30 So we would have done our job.
00:51:31 And that is what we as senior police officers
00:51:33 have to do now more than ever,
00:51:35 to continue to motivate our subordinates
00:51:38 and let them know that, listen,
00:51:41 our responsibility remains to maintain law and order
00:51:44 and protect our citizens.
00:51:47 And if it requires us to take persons before the court,
00:51:50 then do your job.
00:51:51 Do your job, get your proper advice,
00:51:54 whether from your legal officer,
00:51:56 and still we face the director of public prosecution
00:51:59 for any advice that we need.
00:52:01 He has been a partner in the fight.
00:52:04 So we go to him and he will guide us accordingly.
00:52:07 And that is what's been happening.
00:52:09 That's why you're seeing persons walking out of the court.
00:52:11 You didn't hear the walk out of the station.
00:52:13 They walked out by means of the court.
00:52:17 And then with respect to the gift.
00:52:19 So I must apologize to you because to call,
00:52:24 sometimes you see so many persons
00:52:26 that asking the same questions and sometimes it slipped me.
00:52:29 But there are a number of persons who application
00:52:31 is presently before the commission of police.
00:52:34 And now more than ever, just like the recruitment process,
00:52:38 just like what I just mentioned earlier,
00:52:41 we now have to really screen persons in such a way
00:52:45 that we want to be able to give someone
00:52:47 who is deserving of this FUL.
00:52:52 F-U-L.
00:52:53 No more than ever.
00:52:56 It taking a longer time than we thought it would
00:52:58 because of the investigative process.
00:53:01 But it's something that must happen
00:53:03 because we don't want to give it to persons.
00:53:06 And at the end of the day,
00:53:08 we suffer the consequences for it.
00:53:12 All right.
00:53:13 (indistinct)
00:53:15 Good evening, caller.
00:53:16 Good afternoon, caller. - Good afternoon, sir.
00:53:17 - Good afternoon, good afternoon.
00:53:18 I just can't help myself with this evening thing.
00:53:20 Talk to me.
00:53:21 - Yeah.
00:53:22 - All right.
00:53:23 Yesterday or the before you spoke about the reacquisition
00:53:26 of the strength to police officers to be outside.
00:53:30 - Yeah.
00:53:31 - On the field.
00:53:33 - Yep.
00:53:33 - But unless the two other entities,
00:53:35 be it the judicial system and the parliamentarian
00:53:39 that passed legislation in place
00:53:42 that will be in the same page with officers.
00:53:44 - Yeah.
00:53:45 - All right.
00:53:45 Basically it's an exercise in futility
00:53:48 because as you did,
00:53:49 the last record indicated police officers doing the work
00:53:54 to carry persons before the court.
00:53:56 And then there is no hush or there's no,
00:53:59 nothing in place to make them change their mind,
00:54:04 be it legally or legislation.
00:54:08 So it comes like this,
00:54:09 a tap on the back and you go forward.
00:54:12 So then basically it's an exercise in futility
00:54:13 that the police officers are doing.
00:54:15 - Yeah.
00:54:16 Caller, let me say this.
00:54:18 Are you still there?
00:54:18 - Yes, sir.
00:54:19 - Caller, let me ask you something.
00:54:21 What used to deter you before,
00:54:23 long ago when you were younger,
00:54:24 as the case will be,
00:54:25 from doing something over and over again?
00:54:27 - Knowing that the penalty will be in place.
00:54:33 - Right.
00:54:34 - It'd be scolding from the parents
00:54:36 or a stiff penalty from the law.
00:54:40 - Right.
00:54:40 Now, if you are doing things now in a society
00:54:44 what doesn't understand or no longer understand
00:54:47 that punishment must be as a result of,
00:54:51 then what are you doing?
00:54:53 You're thinking about reform,
00:54:55 but some persons will sit in the chair
00:54:58 and make you feel you are reformed, you know,
00:55:00 until they return out.
00:55:02 So caller, I too share the same, your feelings,
00:55:06 but we as law enforcement must understand
00:55:09 our role and function.
00:55:10 And one of our role and function
00:55:11 is not to pronounce on matters.
00:55:15 That is for the legal persons to do.
00:55:17 That is for the judiciary.
00:55:19 So our function remains,
00:55:20 so we must not move away from our function,
00:55:23 which is to arrest persons,
00:55:25 take persons before a court,
00:55:28 and follow up in terms of giving the appropriate evidence
00:55:32 to see the completion of the matter.
00:55:35 And let the chips fall where it may.
00:55:37 Nothing else must be done.
00:55:39 That is not our role and function.
00:55:41 And once we perform our role and function, sir,
00:55:43 we would have served our purpose.
00:55:48 Let's take a break.
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00:57:44 - And welcome back.
00:57:49 We have a call on hold.
00:57:50 Good afternoon caller.
00:57:52 You see I get right, Miss Jackie?
00:57:54 Good afternoon caller.
00:57:56 - Hi, good afternoon.
00:57:57 This is a call for, I'm not sure if it's the
00:57:59 Ministry of Works, I wanna believe it's them.
00:58:02 But it's the equate over those ramps, those flyovers.
00:58:05 More so the one by MT in Portaspin there,
00:58:09 coming in, going into Portaspin and coming out of Portaspin,
00:58:12 also the one by Maritime.
00:58:14 Now the one by MT there, coming from Portaspin,
00:58:17 there's a piece of metal or something
00:58:19 sticking out from one of them.
00:58:20 You know what I'm talking about,
00:58:22 these different levels of,
00:58:23 how these, I don't know if it's cable lines
00:58:26 that be running across it when you're going over the flyover
00:58:28 and they had to be going over them so often
00:58:31 that somebody's gas line burst.
00:58:35 It ripped the metal thing,
00:58:37 it ripped the gas line or whatever it is, right?
00:58:40 That is one too.
00:58:41 I would like to encourage persons, right,
00:58:44 to make use of the Consumer Affairs Division
00:58:49 because they really do help people all the time, right?
00:58:54 So I'm just calling on citizens to make use
00:58:56 of the Consumer Affairs Division.
00:58:58 Mr. Alexander, if one day you can have somebody,
00:59:01 a representative to explain to persons
00:59:04 who is going to these establishments to make purchases
00:59:07 and being told that they cannot return it
00:59:10 or no cash refund or one month warranty
00:59:13 and within 10 days before the warranty up,
00:59:16 you can't get back your money and all these things,
00:59:18 this is just an encouragement for persons
00:59:20 in Trinidad and Tobago to make use of the services
00:59:23 in which we have, but more so, please, Mr. Alexander,
00:59:27 I would like for you to reiterate my point
00:59:29 as it relates to those, those humps,
00:59:33 those, I don't know what they, what's it there for,
00:59:35 you know what I was speaking about, right?
00:59:37 That is causing damage to persons' vehicles.
00:59:39 If they could please just fix it, thank you.
00:59:44 - All right, you're welcome, ma'am.
00:59:45 And normally the Ministry of Works
00:59:48 pay attention to be on the tape,
00:59:49 so your message was directly sent, I assure you, all right?
00:59:54 And with respect to the Consumer Affairs Division,
00:59:57 excellent, I will speak to Marlon
00:59:59 and probably he needs to bring in persons,
01:00:00 especially in the morning, on the morning program,
01:00:03 so they can explain to members of the public
01:00:05 what could be done in case there was some person dissatisfied
01:00:09 with some situation that exists in terms of their purchase.
01:00:12 Good afternoon, caller.
01:00:14 - Hello, good day.
01:00:17 - Yes, you're live.
01:00:19 - Oh yeah, I'm not, okay, hi, how are you doing, sir?
01:00:22 I just have a quick question, I'm feeling a bit lost.
01:00:28 A while back under the last commissioner, Mr. Gigi,
01:00:32 I submitted my firearm, my FUL application.
01:00:35 I got a response from the unit saying that
01:00:39 I was recommended and waiting approval.
01:00:42 However, weeks after is when he came out of office
01:00:47 and then the department went through their issues.
01:00:50 Fast forward to now, on checking up,
01:00:53 they told me that because of the lapse in time,
01:00:56 I had to start over the process.
01:00:59 On my expense, which I did, so I complied.
01:01:02 I did over the whole process,
01:01:04 did a new interview, was interviewed, all that stuff.
01:01:09 That was about three to four months ago.
01:01:12 So now I can't get any kind of response whatsoever.
01:01:16 Anytime I call, they send an email,
01:01:19 I send an email and I still don't get a reply, no.
01:01:22 So I really don't know what the status of my file
01:01:25 or anything like that whatsoever.
01:01:27 - All right, so did you go to the firearm section
01:01:29 at Merriam's building?
01:01:31 - The last time I went, they were located
01:01:36 at the main office, the headquarters.
01:01:40 - Right, well, they have since moved to--
01:01:43 - And they told me to do an email,
01:01:45 but I called them just two weeks ago
01:01:48 and again was told to send an email.
01:01:50 And I sent an email about two weeks ago.
01:01:52 - And no response yet?
01:01:54 - No response yet.
01:01:55 But what I'm trying to understand is that
01:01:57 if I was already recommended
01:01:59 and then I had to start over the process,
01:02:01 is it that my file just went back to the bottom
01:02:03 and I have to come all the way up again?
01:02:05 - Let me help you early, we don't have much time.
01:02:08 What happens is, so things change with persons
01:02:10 over a short period of time.
01:02:11 Take for instance, I went for a certificate
01:02:13 of character today and tomorrow I committed an offense.
01:02:16 And as a result, I'm now in the system.
01:02:18 It could happen, so we need to check and check.
01:02:20 The time would have elapsed and as a result of that,
01:02:22 we just can't put that all is well with you.
01:02:25 We must now rethink the system,
01:02:27 check it over, re-interview you,
01:02:29 find out if the lady that you have then,
01:02:32 you still have her now and she's willing to accept
01:02:33 all of this responsibility.
01:02:35 So don't take it as anything personal.
01:02:37 It's just that the time would have elapsed.
01:02:39 And as a result of that, we must now check to see
01:02:42 if things have changed with you or not.
01:02:45 All right?
01:02:45 Well, have a good evening, Toronto Bay.
01:02:48 The news is up next.
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01:02:54 Pick it.
01:02:55 And the normal time tomorrow for Beyond the Tape
01:02:58 would be at 5.30.
01:03:00 So we have an hour and a half program tomorrow, 5.30.
01:03:03 Have a good evening, everybody.
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