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02:13Good evening, Trinidad and Tobago, and welcome to Beyond the Tape.
02:16My name is Whitney Husbands.
02:18Today is Tuesday, the 9th of July,
02:20and the conversation continues with the youth clubs
02:24throughout Trinidad and Tobago.
02:26We are seeing what is happening with the crime situation
02:29and where the TTPS is really trying their best to find ways
02:32and put into initiatives and programs
02:35and also have or implement things to assist with the crime
02:41throughout Trinidad and Tobago, but we know where it starts.
02:44We have to start with our young people to make sure
02:46that they don't seek or gravitate towards crime
02:50in Trinidad and Tobago.
02:52This evening, no stranger to the show,
02:54and I'm always happy to have this gentleman here with us
02:56because he represents the young people in a major way
02:59and he finds ways to make sure to save many lives
03:02through not just the youth clubs,
03:05but also to communicating with our young people.
03:08This evening, we have Mr. Derek Shabady here with us,
03:11and he's the manager of the St. James Police Youth Club,
03:14and we continue the conversation today,
03:16but before we go any further, how are you?
03:18You look nice today.
03:19I know this is what you represent when you come on the show,
03:21but today you look extra special.
03:23Once I know you're hosting, I know I have to come extra special,
03:26so I have to make sure I come with my finest.
03:29Yes, that's good.
03:30So, Inspector Osborne, how are you?
03:31I'm fine.
03:32I only allow you to tell me that because I'm a civilian.
03:35Yeah, so let us know what's going on
03:38since we last had you on the show.
03:40I know we spoke about when school has closed,
03:43the things you will have in place, which we will touch on
03:45because the camp begins next week.
03:47Yes.
03:48But what is going on thus far with the initiatives
03:50that you have planned moving forward?
03:52There is an aggressive approach
03:54to ensure that we reach young people early.
03:56I'm going to say we have attended enough symposiums,
04:01enough workshops, there's enough data to know
04:03that there's a recruitment drive taking place
04:05to get our young people involved in gangs.
04:08And the police service, along with other stakeholders,
04:11must understand we must be aggressive
04:14and we must reach them very early.
04:16But what do we do?
04:17It's not just talking and lecturing.
04:19They must be attracted by activities, Mr. Osborne.
04:21They must be attracted by the pan,
04:23by burm dancing, by culture.
04:26Talking to them, letting them know the sense of work,
04:29preparing them for the world of work,
04:31and letting them know that, you know,
04:32they are Trinidadian food.
04:33There's a sense of patriotism.
04:35So we are honored to know that it is a collective effort.
04:38And this has nothing to do with St. James alone.
04:40It's a national drive.
04:42This is what's going on in Tobago.
04:44No time to be playing games and pointing fingers
04:46and trying to find out who's wrong, who's right.
04:50It's our red alert.
04:51The light has a signal.
04:53And therefore, we must all come together
04:55to save Trinidad and Tobago.
04:58And it must be aggressive.
05:00It is customary that once schools close,
05:02that police and clubs, through the blessings
05:05of the Commissioner of Police,
05:06give police officers the time off,
05:08your club leaders the time off,
05:09to make sure that young people's time
05:11is occupied constructively.
05:13So every officer in their own area
05:15must come up with something innovative
05:17within the next eight months.
05:19And as you see, our camp doesn't end at one o'clock.
05:23And parents fight until it's at three, four o'clock.
05:26But the parents, after work,
05:27can come down and receive their children.
05:29And this is one of the beautiful things
05:30about the police and club.
05:32We understand the community.
05:33We understand the environment.
05:34We understand our parents, the charges of parents.
05:37And therefore, we have been doing this for a while now.
05:40And therefore, it is absolutely imperative
05:43that you have not the police officer alone,
05:46but facilitators and volunteers and persons saying,
05:49Officer, I would like to be of service.
05:51I would like to come and do craft.
05:53I'd like to assist with a little clinic with football.
05:55I'd like to do a little beauty culture.
05:57You know, it's all joining
05:59and touching the minds of young people
06:01and inspiring them and letting them know
06:03that, you know, the camp is there.
06:05And take off the phones for a little while.
06:07We want the phones off.
06:08Oh, Lord.
06:09The distraction is real when it comes to that.
06:12But we will touch more on the camp,
06:15that you have for the St. James area,
06:18and other information that I know
06:19you would like the public to know about.
06:21And to the parents out there,
06:22you have the opportunity to get more information
06:25with the camps throughout the TTPS,
06:27with the youth clubs,
06:28to start getting your children involved
06:30and expanding their mind.
06:32Right now, we'll take a look
06:33at what made the headlines in the last 24 hours.
06:35Let's take a look.
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07:24As you can see,
07:25that more murders are making the headlines
07:28in the last 24 hours, 48 hours, 72 hours.
07:31And I'm seeing also where the Top Cup
07:34is really taking responsibility
07:36and accountability for what we are seeing here
07:41and what the TTPS had promised.
07:43And now, they said they have more work to do.
07:47Because the strategies that were said to be put in place
07:50clearly is not working.
07:51They're looking for certain reductions,
07:53which they are seeing, which is not drastic.
07:55But we have to see what may happen next after this.
07:58Because being in front of the Joint Select Committee,
08:01she was stating some of the challenges
08:03that the TTPS is faced with.
08:05And it continues to be an uphill battle
08:08because the criminal elements, they evolve.
08:11They change.
08:12They observe what the officers are doing,
08:15the environment in which they are in.
08:17They adapt it, and it's a cat and mouse game.
08:20And it's not an easy job.
08:22But I'm hoping that we're not just hearing the words
08:25and we see more actions.
08:26And, yes, you take accountability
08:28for what we are seeing here.
08:30But what is the next step?
08:31And it has to be a collective effort.
08:33No one police service would not be able to effectively
08:36fight crime unless there's intelligence,
08:39unless there's partnership,
08:40unless the committee work in concert.
08:42And once the judiciary system revisits its laws,
08:45once a man is held for murder, he should be no bail.
08:49You know, it has to be a collective effort.
08:51It's not just police officers locking up
08:52and putting you in jail.
08:54Then what happens after?
08:55A person gets on bail and go out.
08:56And that has been an onward discussion.
08:58But more than that, it's all about
09:00addressing the equipment of the gangs.
09:04The only way you can stop the leak of a pipe
09:07is by the root of the problem.
09:09You know, the quick fix is not helping.
09:11And the young people need to be captivated very early.
09:15You've got to start very early with them.
09:16Well, the TTP is saying that they're tackling gangs seriously.
09:20They're not taking it lightly in any way.
09:23Because they realize how much the gangs are influencing
09:26a lot of our young people.
09:28And it's glamorized to the point where
09:30it's almost like when you're choosing a career
09:33and they ask you what you want to be,
09:35some of them will say, well, I want to be in a gang.
09:38I want to be involved in that lifestyle
09:41because what they perceive, the things that they receive,
09:45the power, the respect, and the money, and the jewels,
09:50the nice cars, and most importantly, of course,
09:53you get the woman.
09:54That's right.
09:55And it's a toxic environment.
09:56And sometimes, you know, once you reach
09:59the mind of the youth very early, that's it.
10:02It's an uphill battle trying to change that mind.
10:04Many young people come at the age of 17, 18 to the club.
10:08And when the parents would move out the room
10:11and have a chat with young people,
10:13they say, no, this is not political material.
10:15And this is not the same child.
10:17Yeah.
10:18They're telling you, I've not done this,
10:20and I've not done my mom, my son.
10:22I'm not worried.
10:23Don't care about me.
10:24I'm the gang leader, community leader.
10:26Don't care about me.
10:27And that's false, fictitious presentation
10:29that is being done.
10:30Young people bind it because it is, as you said,
10:32it's glamorized.
10:33It's well-packaged.
10:34Somebody put out a pile of money and tell you,
10:36go and buy sneakers for yourself.
10:37Fix yourself up nice.
10:38Go and buy a top.
10:39And take a vehicle and go.
10:41That's it.
10:42That's all.
10:43That's right.
10:44And that's how young people, in terms of value,
10:47that's how cheap it is sometimes.
10:49And we need to address that.
10:51And we need to address it in a real sense.
10:53We need to go and knock on doors.
10:55You know, like how did your workers do it?
10:57Knock on doors.
10:58Talk to community.
10:59Open all community centers.
11:00Ensure that the centers are maximized
11:03and used in a protective way.
11:05And this is why we need to count every child
11:09as not a delinquent,
11:10but as a potential citizen of Trinidad and Tobago.
11:13When you walk in a school, you walk in a club,
11:16you should never see children that is delinquent.
11:19You see potential, talent, skills.
11:21You understand?
11:22And that is one way that we could start by
11:24letting young people know that we care for them
11:26when we're concerned,
11:27by tapping and planting that seed very early.
11:29Do you think that all children wear masks
11:34for their parents,
11:35regardless if they may be attracted to the gang lifestyle,
11:40and then there are those who may not be attracted
11:42to the gang lifestyle,
11:44but they are behaving in a manner
11:46where they're lashing out.
11:48They're doing things that a child should not be doing,
11:52but because of things happening at home,
11:54they wear this mask.
11:56Do you think all children have that?
11:58No, some children are blatant.
12:00They tell you,
12:01Mommy, I am a gang leader.
12:03Blatant.
12:04It is brisk now.
12:06They got a name, they got a title,
12:09they got stripes, they got that incentive,
12:11and they inform the parents very early.
12:13Well, non-verbals, of course.
12:15Mommy, I change.
12:16There's a group I run with.
12:18They're my squad now.
12:19There's a group I'm moving with.
12:21Absolutely no care.
12:23And you see what happens is that the gang leaders
12:27seek to replace all law-abiding institutions.
12:31First the home, then the church,
12:34the police service, the school.
12:36So they act as one,
12:38the law enforcement in the community.
12:40They act as a parent.
12:42So you're going to run to your mom and dad,
12:44ask them for more questions again,
12:45you're not a community leader.
12:47They act as an educator,
12:49so you don't need to go to school again,
12:51you're not being educated or being informed.
12:53So the objective is to remove institutions
12:56that have been set up to educate and empower,
12:59and they act as that lone institution with fear.
13:03You understand?
13:04And they sometimes give you ultimatum.
13:06I'm in charge here.
13:07I run things here.
13:08And sometimes people are unfortunately left under duress.
13:11I have known parents who had to send their children
13:14to St. Vincent because their children's face
13:17was placed on a photo they had marked to be killed.
13:20I said, well, you see, yes, and again,
13:22I must apologize.
13:24I had to send two boys to a small island.
13:27And children have nothing to do.
13:29It's some cousin in war.
13:31You follow?
13:33You suffer the consequence.
13:35Our delinquent extended family.
13:38And that's how serious it is sometimes.
13:40It's just mind-blowing to hear what you're saying here
13:44because many times you will hear many stories,
13:48but I know persons will say a child will behave
13:52a certain way away from their parents.
13:55And the parents believe that when they're around them
13:58that this is really how the child is,
14:00but the true child is who is not around the parents.
14:04Some do.
14:05You know, and how could we deal with that as parents
14:08of figuring out if this child is really wearing a mask?
14:11You see, the first police officer and a child
14:13is always a parent.
14:14And parents sometimes have to come unannounced
14:17without any warning,
14:18without giving each other information
14:20or covering it in your school.
14:21Sometimes you have to position yourself.
14:23You know, what route did I take?
14:24You position yourself,
14:25and you watch them from a distance,
14:27inconspicuous, unknown to them,
14:29and say, wow.
14:30You see, times are different.
14:32I'm trying to set up sometimes these defenses for school,
14:35for the community,
14:36to the person you have to change
14:38in order as a part of survival skills.
14:41And a parent must also appreciate the fact
14:44that all these different personalities
14:46you must become aware of.
14:47You cannot sit down at home and say, not my child.
14:50Go on with your day.
14:51Those things are past.
14:52Waste of time.
14:53You're not being a proper parent.
14:54I need to police your child.
14:55You need to work in concert with the teacher.
14:57Your teacher is a parent between the hours of eight.
15:00You must have a relationship.
15:02Your child is with a teacher.
15:05Yes, and when friends coming over,
15:07the friends must be invited
15:08because you want to hear all the discussion they're having.
15:10And know the parents, too.
15:12Many times the parents may not take time
15:14to get to know the child's parents.
15:17Know a little bit more about them.
15:19Very sad.
15:20And your child is just exposed to other children
15:22and don't know the background of other children.
15:24Very sad.
15:25They could expose your children.
15:26Now, I want us to take a look at this.
15:28This is something that I hope the TTPS is paying attention to
15:32because this is not the first time, no,
15:35this case, that individual has died.
15:38Now, a son dead and the dad in critical condition.
15:43An early morning home invasion in Carlson Field, Central Trinidad
15:47yesterday left a son dead and his father in critical condition.
15:51The Perez Farm of Connector Road, Carlson Field,
15:54was the site of what the family described
15:56as another targeted attack on farmers in the community.
16:01Now, when the experts visited the home yesterday,
16:04Christopher's mother, Linda,
16:07explained that many persons have been targeted in these areas
16:11and, on top of that, they were harassed, extorted.
16:16These criminal elements coming in and taking things
16:21that don't belong to them by force and, as you mentioned,
16:25with the fear factor.
16:27But now someone has died.
16:29And the farmers, not giving any names,
16:31came out and said this is something that they have been faced with.
16:35So I'm hoping that the TTPS is hearing us and knows what it's taking.
16:40I'm sure they will know because they have to investigate
16:43the murder of the son.
16:45But this is just so sad and condolences to the family
16:49finding out more on this story
16:51that they were preparing for a burial for the mother's father,
16:57which is the son's grandfather,
16:59which was supposed to happen the next day and this happened.
17:02I want to convey my condolences as well.
17:06It is time that the committees that don't have
17:08Neighborhood Watch Group to commence setting up
17:11Neighborhood Watch Group in its form.
17:15When a committee is divided, fragmented,
17:18you have the elements having the room and the space to prey on people.
17:23And with a Neighborhood Watch Group,
17:25we call on people to really know, be a brother's keeper.
17:28Check most of the Neighborhood Watch Groups
17:31or committees that have Neighborhood Watch Groups.
17:33You find it very rare that you will find the criminal elements
17:37because they know, hey, something's going on here.
17:39The people are well-organized, they're well-knitted, it's well-led.
17:42There's a relationship going on.
17:44Because they go out and they're doing an assessment
17:46and they say nobody.
17:48That committee, they're well-organized.
17:50They're quite telling you.
17:51Well, I hope in this case that, you know,
17:53persons who are crying out in the Carlson Field area
17:57that those in that subdivision, the officers in the subdivision,
18:02is really listening and paying attention
18:04and they're asking for more help, more presence,
18:07with the officers being there
18:08because that's an area where most farmers and it's a lot of land.
18:12It's rural.
18:13So, you know, it's easy for you to hide and duck and weave in spaces
18:18that you may not be able to see easily.
18:21You know, so I hope that they find some sort of way
18:24of assisting these members in the community
18:26and justices also.
18:28I know that it is good to meet with the inspector in charge of the station
18:31and, you know, have a discussion with him
18:33and the inspector, in concert with the officers and the committee,
18:36will be able to set up a neighborhood watch group
18:39that represents the community.
18:42Yes.
18:43Agriculture and all that, well-lit lights and that kind of stuff
18:45because every committee is unique
18:47and every committee will have its own fingerprint
18:49and, therefore, what may be done in one committee
18:51may not be applicable in the next committee.
18:53So I would like to recommend
18:55and we like to let people know that all isn't lost.
18:58Continue to fight.
19:00You know, it is a sad day when people are coming in your home.
19:04This is where your sanctuary and your space
19:07and this is where you live and you're supposed to be at peace
19:10and these men come to take away and traumatize you.
19:13It's a sad day.
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20:55And if you're not joining us, we welcome you.
20:57We have Mr. Shabadeh today,
20:58the manager of the St. James Youth Club, Police Youth Club.
21:02Now, a quick update with regards to the triple murder
21:05that took place in Tobago at Black Rock on Sunday night.
21:10Now, it is a quadruple murder.
21:12Victim number four, Jumoke Duncan, a.k.a. Sugar Root,
21:16succumbed to his injuries.
21:18And again, condolences to the family there.
21:20And you have the opportunity as well
21:22to give us a call at 623-1711, extension 1992, 1993, and 1997.
21:29I want to go right into what is in place
21:33for the July-August vacation
21:36with the St. James Police Youth Club this year, Mr. Shabadeh.
21:40Talk to us, talk to the public, how persons can get involved.
21:43I know it's starting next week.
21:44Yes.
21:45So, let us know a little bit more.
21:46Well, first of all, if you'll allow me, Ms. Osborne,
21:49Inspector Osborne.
21:50Okay.
21:51I want to...
21:52We had a meeting today with the committee police secretary,
21:54right?
21:55Headed by Mr. McCarty, Mr. McCarty,
21:56and some of my colleagues.
21:58And we would like to convey our condolences to Corporal Romani
22:01from the hearts and minds.
22:02He was a good soldier.
22:04Excellent.
22:05I've known him for years.
22:06He did good work with youth clubs.
22:08Unfortunately, we had a...
22:10The report is that he had a heart attack and fell.
22:14And, you know, officers who go beyond the call of duty, you know,
22:18all officers, and I'm talking about in uniform and out of uniform,
22:21and we want to convey our condolences to Corporal Romani,
22:25the family, you know, all he left behind.
22:28I just want to know that, tell the family that we, you know,
22:31we are there to support them.
22:33We are there for them.
22:34You know, these times you have to be there for your brother
22:36and for your colleagues.
22:37Command together.
22:38Yes.
22:39And I want to use this platform to congratulate
22:43and salute Wendy Fitzwilliams.
22:46Our queen.
22:47Oh, yes.
22:48She's beautiful inside and outside.
22:50What is she up to?
22:52Well, actually, she did a grant presentation,
22:55book grant presentation,
22:57and some of our youth club members were recipients of those grants.
23:00It was at 10 o'clock this morning at Administration Building,
23:04the Communications Department of the Police Service, Ms. Archie,
23:07and, you know, I just want to thank Ms. Fitzwilliams for ready.
23:13Some people come and say, I would love to help.
23:15I just want to congratulate people who are saying,
23:19I would like to assist with a book grant.
23:22I want to assist them with a school uniform,
23:24because you cannot be talking about children,
23:27about child doing labor and all that,
23:29and you're not putting the funds in place to ensure they go to school.
23:33So I want to salute them and thank them.
23:36I represent Zone 1.
23:38So not just St. James, we're talking about...
23:40Zones.
23:41Yes.
23:42The right zones.
23:43I represent the Northeastern Division.
23:45I represent Pottersfield Division, Western Division,
23:48and Western Division is Marvell, St. James, Carnage,
23:52Putnam, Bagatelle, and then you have Northeastern Division.
23:56So there are so many clubs doing wonderful work
23:59and really taking time off to ensure there's a camp.
24:03So I want to salute and congratulate all the officers from Zone 1
24:08who have been giving the time off to ensure that the children
24:13in every geographical space becomes a member or enroll into the camp.
24:20So if you go Laventille, if you go Blanchiches,
24:23if you go Maracas, if you go Mover, if you go Bataria,
24:27sometimes you just have to go to the station.
24:30You don't have to come down to St. James.
24:33St. James is much too far.
24:35You just go to Bataria Station and say,
24:37I would like to find out, you'll hear about Miss Howard,
24:40you'll hear about St. Clair Police Club.
24:42A lot of officers doing absolutely beautiful work,
24:44and I want to salute them,
24:46which work in partnership with, of course, the Secretariat.
24:50And it starts, as you say, most of the clubs will be starting from the 15th.
24:55Some start in August, as indicated.
24:59From the 15th of this month to the 17th of August,
25:02we will let them know more of the activities that is included
25:07at the Police Youth Club,
25:09from the swimming, self-defense, computer sessions,
25:12historical visits, intergroup competitions,
25:15dramology, performing arts, field trips, culinary arts,
25:21sports and fun day, talent show, movies, arts and crafts, you name it.
25:25If we get this one.
25:28You have that, you know that, you have it for sure.
25:32When the time is right, I will definitely be there,
25:35and it starts from 9.30am to 3pm.
25:40We have a call on the line, so let's take that call,
25:42because I know we have some callers calling in.
25:44Hello, good evening caller.
25:46Yes, good evening.
25:47Good evening, sir.
25:48Hello?
25:49Yes, you're live, go ahead.
25:50Hi, good evening.
25:52I was listening to the program yesterday,
25:55and you were talking about the same summer camp,
25:58and I was like, okay, very good, impressed.
26:00So I decided to make some calls today.
26:03So I called the Marlboro Police Station,
26:07and I asked the officer about summer camps for the kids and what not.
26:12She may not have known what was happening,
26:14so she said, hold on, she'll find out whatever it was,
26:17and she was trying to put me on to the Monaco Police Station.
26:21So she did her part, and I was very thankful,
26:24and she tried to get me on to the Monaco Police Station,
26:27which I just kept ringing, but nothing happened.
26:29I said, okay, no problem.
26:31I decided to call the San Fernando Police Station on the promenade,
26:35and the officer answered, she introduced herself, what, what, what.
26:38So I told her I was looking for the summer camps for the kids
26:41and what not.
26:43I don't know if she was having a bad day,
26:45I don't know if she didn't have lunch,
26:47but this was her response to me.
26:49So, you know, this is the police station.
26:53If you want to know that kind of thing, you need to go to Facebook.
26:56And I was like, I thought when they don't know they're supposed to ask a senior,
27:01find out, and then get back to you.
27:03I was very disappointed, but I will try to find out more and get information.
27:08Anything that is happening in San Fernando, Vistavilla, or Marvilla,
27:11I will still try to find out, but I was disappointed.
27:14Thank you again.
27:16Thank you so, sorry about that.
27:18Let me apologize on behalf of the TTPS.
27:22That doesn't represent customer service.
27:25It doesn't represent what the police is all about.
27:27In fact, we have transformed the charge room into customer service, you follow?
27:31A reception area where people can approach,
27:34but that doesn't represent the police service.
27:36However, I want you to call the secretary of the police,
27:39WPC Alicia Graves,
27:42and you can call her at 612-0102,
27:47612-0102, extension 13124,
27:53extension 13124.
27:57She is the secretary in charge of all your clubs.
28:00She operates a secretariat,
28:02and she will be more than willing to assist you and guide you,
28:05put you on to the officer in charge,
28:08and I'm sure she will answer the phone properly.
28:10She is a beautiful human being.
28:12We work together, and we try to represent the police service at the highest level.
28:16So, call WPC Graves at the secretariat,
28:19and that's all those who are interested in getting their children involved in whatever location,
28:25you know, because sometimes the station has its share of problems in terms of prisoners,
28:30and so that you can call the secretariat,
28:32and they will guide you to the appropriate...
28:35It seems like some of the officers need to come to the clubs to learn etiquette.
28:38Well, you can invite them. You can introduce...
28:40Yeah, I think they need to, because, I mean, I don't understand.
28:43If you don't know, just say, you know, you can be polite and say,
28:46I'm not sure what I can find out.
28:47Obviously, the police, you know, they're calling a police station.
28:49Well, they would be calling.
28:50Yes, totally agree.
28:51Come on, a fast food restaurant.
28:53We'll be back. We'll take a break.
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30:45Now, I want you all to take a look quickly at this video here.
30:50This was on social media and I want to know who was wrong in this situation.
31:02Now, this is going to the airport, to be clear.
31:06Watch your drive.
31:08Now, this person in the white car is coming off the roundabout.
31:13But we know this lane is to merge onto the side road to go to the airport.
31:21Now, I don't know if you go back a little bit, Jackie.
31:23There are some dotted lines where the car is where you watch the dash.
31:26And right before the car comes up, you can pause and you'll see the dotted lines that we're coming up to stop.
31:33Right.
31:34So, the dotted lines that right in front of you there, but it's kind of faded because it's supposed to have dotted lines.
31:42Who is wrong in that situation?
31:44Because there are two lanes, eh?
31:45Yes.
31:46There are two lanes and this person in the white car is coming off of the roundabout.
31:50Once you're coming from a roundabout, you have the right of way.
31:54Regardless if there are two lanes?
31:56You cannot stop around the roundabout.
31:58No, well, I know that.
31:59Yes, and if it is, there is a straight line, it means you can't overtake.
32:02You have to proceed with caution.
32:04You have to stop and proceed with caution.
32:06If the gentleman is coming, is already on the lane, then he has the right of way.
32:12However, he needs to also proceed with caution because there is no line indicating to slow down and stop.
32:18It's not clear.
32:19Yes, and this is what is one of the problems.
32:21You need to have proper demarkers giving instructions who should stop, who shouldn't stop.
32:26If there is a conflict of interest.
32:28But you see, all that, I think people generally tend to be a little more courteous on the road.
32:34They are discourteous, they are rude.
32:36Sometimes you are right and you have to apologize because they are so arrogant.
32:40Their behavior, you just have to apologize to them.
32:44You don't know the people, they are so angry.
32:47And that is very unfortunate.
32:49But the gentleman, once you come around the roundabout, you have the right of way.
32:52However, the person who is on the lane is required to proceed with caution.
32:56That's as far as I know in terms of the Motorical and Road Traffic Act.
33:00Yeah, because that was just kind of weird.
33:02Because the way the person crossed over into the lane, it was going to have a collision.
33:08As I said, if the person wasn't alert enough, something serious could have happened there.
33:13And the person continued driving.
33:14I was like, oh, it doesn't really matter to me.
33:16Once you enter the next lane, you are the one to proceed with caution.
33:19The car is already given the right to continue.
33:24If you are going over to the next lane, you are to pause and proceed with caution.
33:28Probably give a little light, make sure it's clear.
33:30We didn't have traffic lights, we didn't have this problem.
33:33We have more traffic lights now.
33:34We have more rules now.
33:35And people just don't care.
33:37It's an attitude of lawlessness.
33:39Yes, people need to be given an example.
33:42And it's good that we have these cameras now, where they can be given an example.
33:45And show them up.
33:46The number plate, everything.
33:47And say, look at you.
33:48Look at how you are driving.
33:49Look at you.
33:50Children are driving.
33:51This is how you drive.
33:52We have to do much better than that.
33:55Now, we go back to what the camp is about for this year.
34:00Is it absolutely free for the children?
34:03Or is it like a registration fee that the parents need to pay before putting them into the camp?
34:09Yes, some camps operate with different fees.
34:12But most of the camps are affordable.
34:15$50 a week.
34:17Sometimes a trainee, a primary compliance officer, a ranger assistant, will make some calls, get a trainee sponsored.
34:23We don't want the children to be left out.
34:25I have a family of eight.
34:27Could you assist with the registration fee?
34:29Could you assist with the weekly fee?
34:31And that's an excellent area that we are having a discussion on.
34:36That we need corporate TNT to support.
34:38When you see a letter with a police club letter, support it.
34:41What are some of the challenges you are faced with, though, when you do send these sponsorship letters out to corporate children?
34:48You have to make 175 calls.
34:50Some of them have the courtesy to acknowledge, to actually say.
34:53And then sometimes, the day before the function, they're unable to assist.
34:59But they wish you every best.
35:00I can't send them letters.
35:02How could you wish me every best and they can't assist?
35:05But not only that, the day before, yes, I don't know.
35:07Thank you.
35:08It's not even like a month or two before the event.
35:11You have to be very innovative, though.
35:13You have to know somebody inside.
35:14You have to work with the letter.
35:16You have to have an audience with management.
35:18You have to express.
35:19Because, remember, there are other organizations competing, too.
35:21So, it's good that you're working.
35:23You introduce yourself as a team.
35:24You make sure your club has a stamp.
35:27It is properly registered.
35:28You've got all different kind of organizations now claiming that they're legitimate.
35:33And, therefore, crossing the T and dotting I is absolutely imperative.
35:36And some people call.
35:37You leave a number.
35:38And they call to find out about you.
35:40They want to make sure that this club is a legitimate club.
35:42You follow?
35:44But more than that, we ask the corporate T and T to assist.
35:48You know, donate some soft drink.
35:50Donate some sweet bread.
35:51Donate food items to football.
35:53So, you're asking for more so product.
35:55Yes, money is also important because it will help build the youth clubs.
36:00Yes.
36:01And carry them in a different direction because, you know, we all need money.
36:04Oh, yes.
36:05To fund things.
36:06Oh, yes.
36:07To get things done.
36:08So, for you to just say you're giving products alone is not really going to benefit.
36:12Yes.
36:13I mean, it will benefit to a certain extent.
36:16But you still need money to do more things.
36:19Listen, sometimes people will drop some clothes and the clothes are in excellent condition.
36:23And when we leave, the children will be grateful for the little jeans and nice sneakers.
36:28Some socks, a little top.
36:30The parent will go inside and say, Officer, I am so grateful.
36:32You know, the children.
36:33Sometimes insignificant things are significant to others.
36:37So, whatever you have, once it's in good condition, if you have time,
36:41we are grateful.
36:42You know, you want to come and talk to them.
36:44You want to come and whatever donation you want to, just make sure that the donation is transparent.
36:50You know, we normally will take a photo because you have all different kind of characters now
36:54wanting to donate things to the club.
36:56They want to donate things to the Police Youth Club.
36:59You know, and you have to be careful.
37:01Next thing, senior officers call you and ask you, did you receive so and so?
37:05Yes, yes.
37:06And the person is of questionable character.
37:08So, it's good that you write and you make sure and get a letter and ask permission to receive it.
37:14Transparency is absolutely imperative.
37:16I don't know if you could answer this quickly.
37:18But with regards to allocations for the budget for national security,
37:23and we know that also filters to the TTPS,
37:27is there a fund in place for the youth clubs, for the TTPS throughout Trinidad and Tobago
37:33that money is allocated for the youth clubs specifically to assist in any way?
37:38Yes, the commissioner who is the CEO of the police service
37:42will make recommendations for the relevant allocation,
37:46whether it's narcotics, whether it's Police Youth Club.
37:48And I think the Police Youth Club has a little over a million dollars that they can access,
37:53but you could appreciate if I could simplify Police Youth Club.
37:56Yes, yes, I mean to stretch that.
37:58But I just wanted to know if money is allocated for the youth clubs.
38:02Yes.
38:03And not just hoping and praying alone that the stakeholders out there are able to contribute.
38:11Because we want them to.
38:13That's right, that's right.
38:14But I wanted to know with having the brand TTPS,
38:17are you all also getting assisted from the TTPS?
38:21You're on spot because some of the private sector will ask,
38:24what is the police service contribution?
38:26Because they are partnering, they want to know what role the police service will be playing with.
38:30But now you can reveal that and ask them to match it.
38:32Thank you very much.
38:33Yes, because now you have evidence showing that money is there,
38:36so you can match it and let's move forward.
38:39Yes, $50,000 match 50.
38:41Yes, we're good to go.
38:43We take a break, we'll be back with more after this.
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40:23And we are back, we have a call on hold.
40:25Let's take that call.
40:26Hello, good evening.
40:28Hi, pleasant afternoon.
40:29Good evening.
40:30Good evening, ma'am.
40:31Good evening.
40:33Hi, pleasant.
40:34Oh, I'm on air?
40:35Yes.
40:36Okay, pleasant.
40:38Good afternoon.
40:39I'm Corporate Shabadi and Miss Whitney.
40:42What can I say?
40:44I'm so happy to get through.
40:46I've been trying to get through since the last time.
40:50In terms of assistant police youth club, you know, Corporate Shabadi has been doing excellent work throughout Trinidad and Tobago.
40:58And one of the things that, you know, and why I'm on air is that I am a parent also of the St. James Police Youth Club.
41:06So I have children in the St. James Police Youth Club.
41:08And also I'm on one of the committee.
41:12So what I would really like in terms of the ministries, like, you know, Ministry of Youth, Ministry of Social Development, is to now get on board.
41:21I know you just asked a question in terms of funding.
41:24And sometimes we do send letters to these various ministries.
41:28And, you know, sometimes it's sad they would tell us that, you know, we don't fall under those ministries.
41:34So I would listen off air, you know, and if anybody else can call from these ministries.
41:40Because, I mean, if they can put funds, like for the youth camps, you know, August, July youth camp, for the Easter youth camp.
41:49Maybe we wouldn't have to charge anything.
41:52You know, children could just come in and, you know, be part of it.
41:56So I would listen on air.
41:58Thank you. Excellent program.
42:00And to Corporate Shabadi, excellent.
42:03Thank you.
42:04Thank you, ma'am.
42:05I will mention this, though.
42:06I know with the Ministry of Sport and Community Development, and with the youth, they have camps.
42:14Now, I'm not sure how that will work with the TTPS, since they already have their programs running.
42:20But you could speak more on that, if that is the case.
42:23From time to time, we complement each other, so that if there is a music school, and while I'm having a camp,
42:28and there are children in the camp that are interested in the music school, and the ministry is running, we send them.
42:33Okay.
42:34But the ministry camp doesn't go as long as ours, you know, into four or five weeks.
42:39But we sit down and we look at groups, and we complement, you know, we partner with them, because it's not a competitive thing.
42:46What is happening is that sometimes you would want projects of your own.
42:50Even after camp, the projects continue, and they should continue.
42:54It's not just for July, August.
42:56So you run a music school, and you know for sure that even after August, September, we continue.
43:02And then the children will be certified, and they'll get an opportunity to go into UB, advance the courses, agriculture, you name it.
43:09You know, it is a spin-off.
43:10While we micro, the macro component is with the state and government and the private sector that will say,
43:16Hey, I understand that you're doing an excellent project.
43:18How can we come on board to assist?
43:21What kind of additional funding do you need?
43:23That's proactive.
43:24So we can have a discussion.
43:25Working together, yeah, working together will definitely help.
43:27Now, the different stakeholders that have contributed to the youth clubs.
43:31Who are they?
43:32Wow.
43:33I have lost count.
43:35I can start first with the Port Island Rotary Club.
43:37I want to salute them.
43:39They are good people.
43:40Mr. James Devers, Mr. Dick Gans, Mr. Andrews, Dr. Lachis.
43:47Absolutely wonderful people.
43:49I can talk about the Syrian Lebanese Women's Club.
43:52Some beautiful women who just, you know, they are just a bit of a kick still at West Viz, and we just got kick upon kick.
43:59Even though the inclement weather was not very kind to us.
44:02The people from West Viz, we had our little mic, and some people came across, and we did very well at our kick still.
44:09So the Syrian Lebanese, Royal Bank of Canada, Ms. Hazel, Mr. Neptune from Republic Bank.
44:22Listen, there are some really beautiful people who come to you to assist.
44:27We have KISS with Mr. Telfer.
44:30We have Hilo.
44:32We have Food Hall with Mr., all the way down, let's imagine that, all the way down in Piako with Mr. Fakhry.
44:39We write a letter.
44:41They know that what kind of work you're doing.
44:44You know, you ask them for four pizzas.
44:47KFC, you know, while I'm not supposed to be eating, I should be watching my weight, you know, and watching my sugar intake and so on.
44:55KFC, Coca-Cola.
44:58They are excellent organizations, but we need more.
45:02You know, we need more.
45:04It's good money spent.
45:05Children are smiling.
45:07You know, it is a place where you cannot be talking to young people and making promises, and then you are full up.
45:14That's the way it is.
45:16You know?
45:17You all are celebrating, when I say you all, the youth club, the police youth club is celebrating 50 years.
45:21Oh yes.
45:22This year.
45:23Yes, gold, yes.
45:24What are you all doing?
45:25Oh, that's big.
45:26I don't want to give out too much, but I'm telling you, it's big.
45:30It is, it is, Tobago is involved.
45:33You see, I talk about the Zone 1.
45:35There are other zones.
45:36There are Zone 2, Zone 3.
45:38Every zone is coming up with their own cultural program.
45:42So, if you come down in Zone 1, we will have something really nice, a culture.
45:46Then we have a march, and we have, you know, then you go to Zone 2.
45:49They're having their own Zone 3.
45:51You go to Tobago.
45:52And then the launching of the 50th anniversary will be held in October at Cascada Hotel.
45:59We thank Mr. BDC very much.
46:02There's really some hard-working committee members.
46:06Every day, every week in the Secretary of State, under Mr. Subramanian Kati and Mr. Archibald,
46:12we're sitting down, we're tweeting, and we're making calls.
46:15I'm really trusting that corporate TNT can be here in 50 years.
46:20Sure.
46:21One officer, Sergeant Otelopea, was serving warrants in Junjun,
46:28and was moved by so many children, would have been all over.
46:32And then, of course, if you get a warrant on Friday, you're locked up Saturday and Sunday.
46:37Exactly. You can't come out until Monday.
46:39And this officer formed the first police youth club, Junjun Police Youth Club, under Plum Tree.
46:45Wow. One of my favorites.
46:47Yes. And I met with Otelopea. He was on his bed. I met him in Picton.
46:51And we went up to look for him.
46:53The second police club which was formed was the Kukarit Police Youth Club.
46:57And that was formed.
46:58And the club was so large that Kukarit had to go down to the police barracks, formerly, which is now an academy,
47:04where so many different—and we still have some of the founding members of that club still around.
47:10Could you imagine that?
47:11So, Mr. Subramanian, you're a specially invited guest.
47:15You'll be escorted.
47:17You sit on the front row, and you just enjoy.
47:20Where's Jackie?
47:21Yeah, Jackie has to be there.
47:23You come out with your finance team. You're invited.
47:26This is one time Jackie will come out.
47:28October will be big. We have the blessings of the commissioner.
47:31We have the minister of national security on board.
47:33We have, of course, the prime minister.
47:35And there's a big time saying, it is not a secret, but this is what the police club has been doing.
47:40The alumni and all the foundation members, we want to salute them.
47:45Now, let's speak quickly about retirees, and where are they in the youth club, the police youth club?
47:53Well, I think, Ms. Osman, that anybody who don't use retirees—and we need to remove the old retirees,
47:59because when you say retirees, you retire from what?
48:02They still have a lot to offer.
48:03Yes.
48:04And they're evolving.
48:08We're calling them for those who will have the time in their own discipline, their own craft,
48:13to come and give back to the club, whether it's Laventille, Blanchiches, Maracas.
48:17You know, you come and just go and talk to the youth club leader and say,
48:20listen, I am Mr. Son, so I've spent 50 years, and I would like to give back.
48:24Whether it's answering the phone, doing administrative work, filing, accountant.
48:28You know, it all complements, and it would all work in concert with ensuring the recovery,
48:33and sometimes lecturing to young people about your time and how Trinidad was such a beautiful place, you know,
48:39and what allowed you to become where you are, and, you know, your attitude,
48:44and, you know, the fact that you were focused, and the people that supported you,
48:49and you centered yourself around positive people.
48:51All those are conversations and discussions you have with young people.
48:54So I want to call not just the Retirees Association of the Police, but all those who are retired.
49:00You know, you can make yourself available.
49:02You can call the secretariat and say, I would like to be of service to the Police Youth Club,
49:07and we are more than willing to support you.
49:12And be there to build young minds.
49:14Yes, that's right.
49:15All right, we have to take a break, and when we come back, we will wrap things up.
49:18We'll be back.
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50:45Welcome back. Now some quick information with the Tongue meetings that will be happening still throughout Trinidad.
50:50Now, in the Central Division, the Tongue meeting will be taking place in Presall,
50:55Presall Secondary School, Coover Main Road, Presall on Thursday the 18th of July,
51:01which is next week Thursday.
51:03Alright, it starts at 7 p.m. at the Presall Secondary School, Coover Main Road in Presall.
51:10So don't be left out there.
51:12And also on Sunday, there is something that will be taking place with the young people
51:18that I'm sure you'll be able to participate with,
51:21and we will put out a view to see shortly.
51:24And that will be the 7K run and the 5K walk from 6.30 a.m.
51:30Lots of giveaways. Family and friends, come out.
51:34Alright, and support.
51:36It's with Cancer Survivors and the Patient Support Group.
51:41So come out, support, have fun, bring out the young ones.
51:45The contact information is there for you to call 489-0381
51:50or 765-7369 or 355-8768.
51:58Alright, so come out, have fun with your family and friends.
52:01This is taking place on Sunday, the 7K run and 5K walk starting at 6.30 a.m.
52:09And not forgetting the annual vacation camp.
52:12The St. James Police Youth Club presents their vacation camp for the young ones
52:17from the 15th of July to the 17th of August.
52:20A summer to remember.
52:22Activities include swimming, self-defense, computer sessions, historical visits,
52:28intergroup competitions, dramology, performing arts, field trips, culinary arts, sports,
52:35and fun day, talent show, movies, arts, and craft from 9.30 a.m. to 3.00 p.m.
52:44Number 5, Sierra Leone Road, Pretty Valley, limited spaces available.
52:49And you can contact 632-6084 or 296-1218.
52:56And is there registration for this camp in particular for the St. James Police Youth Club?
53:01Yes, it is $50 a week.
53:03$50 registration.
53:05$50 a week and I'm registered.
53:07Cheapest camping in the U.S.
53:09You can't go wrong with that.
53:11And I know some parents may not be able to afford it.
53:14And I am really certain that Mr. Shabadi could assist some of the parents and guide them
53:21to make sure that your children are not left out.
53:25So let us know.
53:27Yes, I want to salute some of my colleagues.
53:29Barataria Police Youth Club, Ms. Howard, Blanche Shears, WPC Squares, Lavantel Extension.
53:35Let's imagine that.
53:36WPC Murray, Mova Police Youth Club, Officer Stephan, Santa Cruz, WPC Nicholas, Sauer,
53:44WPC Huller, Chandler-Bagel Pantry, WPC Corporal Ramsey, Beverly Hills Police Youth Club, Small,
53:51Piton Police Youth Club, WPC Fraser, Interagency Task Force, WPC Noel, Jun Jun Police Youth Club,
53:59Jun Jun Police Youth Club, Corporal Fleming, Pride of Gonzales, WPC Yearwood, Police Netball Team,
54:06WP Inspector Aguerela, St. Clair Police Youth Club, Corporal Castillo, St. Paul Street, WPC Miller,
54:13Bagatelle, Mason Street, Martian, Carnage, WPC Sylvester, Marvel Parmen, WPC Meyer,
54:22Partner Police Youth Club, WPC Portillo, and the most outstanding, St. James Police Youth Club.
54:30I know that's your baby. That is definitely your baby.
54:33I just want to salute all my colleagues. I want to thank you all very much for really taking the time off to have an absolutely wonderful camp.
54:40We need to make sure and ensure that our children are safe, friendly services provided, and the recruitment starts with the police youth club, not with the criminals.
54:50Good education makes you shine, but good discipline makes you glitter.
54:54Pressure makes you precious.
54:56When mommy fail, daddy fail, I would not be afraid in life. Let's teach our children that.
55:01Yeah, of course. When you apply pressure to anything that is precious, you create diamonds.
55:05So let's create those diamonds, those minds, those minds that are ready to expand.
55:11And I hope that parents take advantage of these camps that the TTPS is bringing forward to the public.
55:19There are two officers in the different stations when persons are calling for information about the camps, and you're not sure.
55:28It's okay to just find out, say, I'm not sure, but let me hold on, let me see if I can direct you.
55:33Nothing is wrong with that.
55:35How else would persons know? Not everyone may have access to internet or to find out to go onto Facebook or on the website.
55:43They're just able to call because they heard about it on the show, was able to see it, and they just need to gather some information.
55:49So remember, you all have the customer service program that's happening, the unit.
55:57So you take advantage of that.
55:59All right, we get ready for your news coming up next at 7 p.m.
56:03And TNT will be back tomorrow. God's Fair Life will be Wednesday, so it's legally speaking Wednesdays.
56:07Always remember, be pure and just, and have God in your life no matter what.
56:10We're out. Thank you so much, Mr. Chabon.
56:12Thank you, and don't forget to call Ms. Graves and his secretariat.
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