Is your team driven, or are they burning out while being praised for it?
In this episode of The Mason Duchatschek Show, Mason talks with Jason Alan Bohrer, author of Resilient: The Seven Pillar System for Peak Performance on Demand and creator of a regulation-first performance framework for founders, executives, and high-achieving professionals.
Jason explains why high performance and burnout can look dangerously similar from the outside. The employee who never disconnects, the executive who answers messages at all hours, and the founder who works through every weekend may look committed, dependable, and driven. But those same behaviors can also signal dysregulation, chronic stress, and a recovery system that is breaking down.
Jason shares a powerful distinction every CEO, business owner, executive, HR leader, and manager should understand:
Drive moves a person toward a vision. Dysregulation moves a person away from a threat.
That difference can affect decision-making, creativity, emotional control, leadership effectiveness, team culture, and long-term business performance.
In this conversation, you’ll learn why sustainable performance is not built by pushing harder forever. It depends on recovery, nervous system regulation, and the ability to perform without relying on pressure, fear, or burnout.
This episode is for business owners, CEOs, founders, executives, HR managers, sales leaders, and team leaders who want to build high-performing teams without rewarding burnout, overwork, and constant availability.
Watch now to learn how to recognize the difference between healthy drive and hidden burnout before it damages your people, culture, and performance.
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In this episode of The Mason Duchatschek Show, Mason talks with Jason Alan Bohrer, author of Resilient: The Seven Pillar System for Peak Performance on Demand and creator of a regulation-first performance framework for founders, executives, and high-achieving professionals.
Jason explains why high performance and burnout can look dangerously similar from the outside. The employee who never disconnects, the executive who answers messages at all hours, and the founder who works through every weekend may look committed, dependable, and driven. But those same behaviors can also signal dysregulation, chronic stress, and a recovery system that is breaking down.
Jason shares a powerful distinction every CEO, business owner, executive, HR leader, and manager should understand:
Drive moves a person toward a vision. Dysregulation moves a person away from a threat.
That difference can affect decision-making, creativity, emotional control, leadership effectiveness, team culture, and long-term business performance.
In this conversation, you’ll learn why sustainable performance is not built by pushing harder forever. It depends on recovery, nervous system regulation, and the ability to perform without relying on pressure, fear, or burnout.
This episode is for business owners, CEOs, founders, executives, HR managers, sales leaders, and team leaders who want to build high-performing teams without rewarding burnout, overwork, and constant availability.
Watch now to learn how to recognize the difference between healthy drive and hidden burnout before it damages your people, culture, and performance.
Connect with Jason Alan Bohrer:
https://www.7pillarsystem.com
Connect With Workforce Alchemy:
Website: https://workforcealchemy.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ReverseRiskConsulting
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/workforcealchemy/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/WorkAlchemist
Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/WorkforceAlchemy
Dailymotion: https://www.dailymotion.com/WorkforceAlchemy
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WorkforceAlchemist
Connect with Mason:
Website: https://masonduchatschek.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/masonduchatschek/
#Leadership #Burnout #HighPerformance #CEOs #BusinessOwners #FounderPerformance #ExecutivePerformance #WorkplaceCulture #HumanResources #SustainablePerformance
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00:00Welcome to the Mason Dukachek Show.
00:01And before we jump in, this episode is brought to you by WorkforceAlchemy.com,
00:06the place where business owners and executives go to uncover and address
00:10profit leaks hidden in their everyday operations.
00:13Today's guest, Jason Borer, is the author of Resilient,
00:17the seven pillar system for peak performance on demand,
00:21and the creator of a regulation first performance system for high achievers.
00:26His work was born from a 12-month personal odyssey,
00:30where he went searching for greater discipline, capacity, clarity, and peak performance,
00:36only to discover that the real foundation was not more effort, it was regulation.
00:41Years earlier, Jason had also experienced a brain bleed
00:45that forced him to confront recovery, identity, and the limits of pushing through.
00:51But the heart of Resilient is the realization that many successful people
00:56are not lacking ambition.
00:57They're operating from dysregulation and calling it drive.
01:02Today, Jason works with founders, executives, and driven professionals
01:06who look successful on the outside, but are quietly running themselves into the ground.
01:12Welcome to the show, Jason. Glad to have you.
01:14Thank you. Thank you. I'm really glad to be here. I've been looking forward to this.
01:17So what was this 12-month odyssey that led to Resilient?
01:21Yeah. I was chasing the next version of myself.
01:26More output, more discipline, more capacity, more clarity.
01:31I had done the work. I'd read the books. I'd built the systems.
01:36I'd tried all the frameworks, and I wanted to operate at a higher level.
01:42So I went deep. I tracked everything.
01:44I tested my routines, my sleep, my inputs, my mindset, my environment.
01:49I was methodical, and I was very serious about this.
01:53And I was getting results, but they were fragile.
01:56I'd built a great stack, and then something would disrupt it.
01:59And I'd lose not just the streak, but the access to the version of me
02:03that had built the streak.
02:05And I kept bumping into a ceiling I couldn't explain.
02:08And then it clicked, not like a lightning bolt, but more like a slow recognition
02:13that the ceiling wasn't in my strategy.
02:17It wasn't in my discipline.
02:19The ceiling was in the state that I was operating from.
02:22And everything I was trying to build, the habits, the mindset, the systems, the work,
02:26it was sitting on an unstable foundation.
02:29The foundation was my nervous system.
02:31And when I started working at the level of regulation first,
02:34everything else started functioning the way it was supposed to.
02:38And that realization became resilient.
02:41Nice.
02:42I think people underestimate how important flow state is.
02:46I'm not one of them.
02:47And the people in my circle that I work with closely,
02:50they always know it's now a good time.
02:53And they're not offended when I tell them no.
02:55Like I'm in my groove, and things are flowing,
02:58and I'm not going to be distracted.
03:00I'm not going to be interrupted.
03:01Now, it's an emergency maybe, but they know what emergency is.
03:04But I was talking to a guy, his name is Steven Peary.
03:08And he, I think he was in December.
03:10And he was a producer, Hollywood producer for like blockbuster movies like Wolverine,
03:16Die Hard, Independence Day.
03:18And we really talked about this flow state.
03:20He says, you know, when you get ramped up, it's like an airplane.
03:22You take off, and you get wrapped up into your state, and you're flowing along.
03:25That when you get distracted, or you break your state, and you come back down,
03:29it's like land in the plane, and you got to start from scratch,
03:32and you got to get your speed up again, and you get, then get back up to where you were.
03:36He says, that like takes like 20 minutes, and sometimes it'll be longer if I can get it back.
03:40But like when I'm a flow state, I protect that immensely.
03:42So it's, you and I must have been reading a lot of the same books,
03:45because like I, I'm a believer.
03:47So what were you originally looking for when you started that journey?
03:51Yeah, I was, I wanted more edge, right?
03:55Like I was already achieving, but I had this sense that I was leaving something on the table,
04:00that the next version of me was closer to his ceiling than I was.
04:05And I hadn't identified what was holding that ceiling in place.
04:09I thought the answer was discipline.
04:10I thought it was mindset, or, you know, a better morning routine.
04:14I was looking upward at peak performance, asking, what do I need to add?
04:19But what I found was the answer was underneath me, not above me.
04:23It was in recovery.
04:24It was in regulation, in the foundational state from which everything else either works or it doesn't.
04:31And that was the miss for me, and also the aha moment.
04:36Your performance ceiling will never rise higher than your recovery floor.
04:41And that's not a metaphor.
04:42That's, that's a functional description of how the nervous system actually works.
04:47You see, every biological system oscillates, you know, heartbeat, breath, brainwaves, hormones,
04:56and your body is no different.
04:58Performance is no different.
05:00It follows the wave, resilience, recovery, performance, and return.
05:05And performance is the crest, and it only exists because the trough is the crest.
05:09This is a matter of physics, a matter of biology.
05:13So your peak can only rise as high as your recovery floor.
05:19Now, when you sort of forego the recovery, then the wave starts to shorten.
05:26And when the wave starts to shorten, the system starts to compress.
05:28And when the system starts to compress, perception narrows.
05:33You lose range.
05:34And we experienced that perceptual narrowing as the sensation called overwhelm.
05:39So what I was focused on was adding layers to the top while the foundation was unstable.
05:44I had missed the simple biological law upon which performance is built.
05:50So it's – you wouldn't have known this, but my son was an elite athlete.
05:56He was – I think he was ranked – his highest rank was 222 in the world in the steeplechase.
06:02And I think at one point he was like 31 in the United States when he was a senior in
06:06college.
06:06He ran for Wichita State.
06:08And he ended up having a pro running contract for Minnesota Distance Elite for a couple years.
06:13And he would agree with 100% with what you're saying, that like the recovery – they protected the recovery
06:20days.
06:20If they didn't let their bodies recover, then they couldn't push it harder.
06:24And even when they gave the effort, their body didn't have the capacity to go harder.
06:29And if they couldn't push that ceiling because they weren't recovered, then they didn't get the types of adaptations that
06:36they would have gotten if they had taken the time to rest.
06:40It's like they understood the difference of making a rest day.
06:45Every workout had its objective.
06:48And the objective on rest days was to rest and to recover.
06:52Just like on a speed work day, the objective is to get faster or you're going to work on your
06:58lactate threshold.
06:59I mean, there's different things that each workout had a specific objective.
07:03And some days that objective was rest.
07:07And if they didn't take that, they're limited what they could do.
07:11And I understand the mentality of wanting to push, wanting to push.
07:15Like, oh, I got to give my effort, effort, effort, effort every day.
07:17And I get that, but sometimes the effort is on, I may give 100% of my effort to rest
07:24and to recovery.
07:25So, like, I get what you're saying.
07:27So, when did you realize that the answer was not more discipline, but regulation?
07:31Yeah, there was a pattern I kept hitting that I couldn't explain through any of the usual lenses.
07:35I built a great window.
07:37I was sharp.
07:38I was executing at a high level.
07:40I was in flow.
07:41And then something would happen, a stress event, an unexpected disruption.
07:45And I'd lose it.
07:48Not just a streak.
07:49I'd lose access to the version of me that was performing at the level that I really expected
07:54to myself.
07:55It was like a different operating system had loaded.
07:58And I started paying close attention to what was happening in these moments.
08:01Not just what I was doing differently, but what was happening underneath.
08:06And I started seeing the variable that wasn't necessarily my habits or my strategy or my effort.
08:12The variable was simply state.
08:15It was my nervous system state.
08:18And when that shifted under stress, my performance ceiling would drop.
08:22My decisions would narrow.
08:24My creativity would contract.
08:26My access to all the nuanced details that were once easy, it just became difficult.
08:32Everything started to feel heavier.
08:34My options started to disappear.
08:35My patience would thin.
08:37And that's when I saw the real problem.
08:38I had been treating discipline like the engine, but discipline is a byproduct of a regulated
08:43system, not a replacement for it.
08:46And once I understood that, everything would be organized.
08:49I stopped asking, how do I get more discipline?
08:51And started asking, what state am I operating from?
08:54And those are completely different questions with completely different answers.
08:58Tony Robbins talks a lot about how important state is.
09:02And I think one of the examples he was using, and I'm totally dating myself because, you
09:06know, I grew up watching guys like Michael Jordan play basketball and he, Robbins gave
09:11an example.
09:12I don't know whether it's one of his books or one of his seminars or whatnot, but it's
09:15like Michael Jordan goes out and he scores 50 points one night.
09:17Yeah.
09:18The very next night he scores 25.
09:20Did he lose half of his ability?
09:22Was he not disciplined that night?
09:23Did he not give effort?
09:24No, I had nothing to do with that.
09:25He was just in a flow state and, and the night he scored 50 points and maybe not so much
09:29today.
09:30He scored 25.
09:31I mean, he talked about Andre Agassi when Andre was at the top of the world and he talked
09:38about when he was ranked in the 130s and just, and what was the difference?
09:42And it was his, and I'm summarizing what Tony Robbins said, but his state and, and Tony
09:49taught him how to rekindle that state on demand and walk onto the court.
09:55Like, like you shouldn't even shown up to compete against me a day.
09:58I'm going to destroy you type of that, like attitude and state versus, you know, I hope
10:02I do okay today.
10:03And it's that, that flow state that like, I agree 100% with what you're talking about.
10:09So why do you still many high performers in your opinion, confuse dysregulation with drive?
10:15Yeah.
10:15And I think we're already touching on it naturally with the, uh, the Tony Robbins reference,
10:19uh, because dysregulation can look exactly like drive from the outside and it can feel
10:25like drive from the inside, at least for a while.
10:28When your nervous system is dysregulated, you're hyperactivated, you're faster, you're more
10:33reactive, you're always moving and it's always urgent.
10:37And in our culture, we reward that.
10:39We call it hustle.
10:41We call it commitment.
10:42We give it a promotion.
10:43But what's actually happening is your nervous system is running a threat protocol.
10:49It's not moving towards something.
10:51It is moving away from something.
10:53It is bracing.
10:54The clearest distinction I know, drive moves you toward your vision.
10:59Dysregulation moves you away from threat and they can look identical from the outside and
11:05feel very similar from the inside.
11:07But they have completely different origins, completely different neurochemistry and completely
11:13different ceilings.
11:15So I think you're starting to get on what I was, what I was getting ready to ask.
11:18And I think you're kind of going along that path.
11:20They're like, how does overwhelm change the way that leader snake decide and relate?
11:24You're making total sense to me.
11:26I get it.
11:26Yeah, absolutely.
11:27But you're touching on that.
11:28And you know, a big part of that 12 month odyssey when I came through the other side was
11:34to make this more accessible because when I came out of my 12 month odyssey, man, I felt
11:40like the version of myself that I came here to find.
11:45And it was very important to me to take something that felt like mindset, to take something that
11:52felt almost mystical at this incredible becoming I'd been a part of and articulate the flip side
11:59of a lot of those feelings that can feel almost mystical, that can feel like mindset, that can feel
12:03like a becoming and articulate the biology beneath the becoming, articulate the mechanics beneath
12:09the mindset beneath the mystical feeling, because it was important to understand and important for
12:15my for me to articulate that this is mechanical, this is repeatable, this is something that you can
12:21consistently have access to.
12:24And that was very important in articulating this work is to understand that this is a product of rhythm
12:31and mechanics more so than something that is that is out of reach.
12:35And that's something I very much wanted to to share with other folks is the idea that, you know,
12:42this is something that you can can really work with in a repeatable, measurable fashion.
12:47See, I think people who are athletes will relate to this immediately because anybody who I don't care
12:53where you play basketball or football or tennis or you've been a runner or whatever, you know what a peak
12:59state feels like and you know what a difference that makes on your performance. I mean, you've
13:03experienced it. It's not a, gee, I wonder what that's like. You felt the high highs, you felt the
13:07low lows and you know what the difference is. I think there are probably people watching and listening
13:11and they're probably thinking, well, how does that help me in the business world? And I think that
13:15how does that help me professionally? How does it help me personally? And I think there are the
13:20answer is a lot of ways. I mean, I can think of this would have been 1990. I'm totally dating
13:25myself. 1991. I hit a rough patch, a couple of presentations and just was just, I just,
13:33I was not in peak state. And the guy that I was working for was very much into this and,
13:39and he was a national sales trainer and spectacular. And we literally focused on getting into a peak
13:44state. And I remember walking in and I wasn't faking. I was just tuned into the best version of
13:50myself. That's right. And I let it rip with absolute commitment and certainty and it flowed
13:57like no one's business. And, and my state set the state of the room and literally everybody bought
14:03every single one of them. And like, I can remember this from 1991. I can remember the place. I remember
14:10the town. I remember the business name. I remember where people were sitting. Like, I'll never forget
14:15that. Or you think about it with relationships. If you, if you show up in a peak state with your
14:21spouse or your wife or your boyfriend or whatever, and you are in that state, that's going to rub off
14:28and affect them in a positive way and make them better because they're around you. Yeah. I see where
14:36this is not just, I think the athletes are going to really easily relate to it. But for those that
14:41might be like, well, I don't know, like try it, man, like try it with your family, try it with
14:45work. And, and, and like, I I'm, I'm a full believer in what you're talking about. That's
14:49why I was excited to have you on. What, um, what are the behaviors that high achievers get praised for
14:54that are actually warning signs? Yeah. And, uh, we're already touching on it, right? Like
14:59the whole idea of wake up earlier, grind harder, outlast, hustle more, a few that I see constantly
15:07never needing rest. We celebrate the person who works through the weekends, skips vacations,
15:14treats sleep like a negotiable line item. But the person who can't regulate down has lost the
15:21recovery half of that performance cycle. It's all up here. And we already talked about what happens
15:26when you neglect the other side of the wave that is performance. They're not optimized. They're broken
15:31in a way that looks like dedication, always being available, constant responsiveness reads his
15:38commitment. But a person who can't create space, who can't be unreachable is running a continuous
15:44background threat scan. Their mind is the looping. It comes through sooner than later as distraction
15:50because their nervous system never fully downshifts. And that has a cost that compounds slowly and
15:57quietly. Because high output, specifically under pressure, we applaud this loudly. But if someone
16:03only performs well under pressure, what you're watching is a threat state activation, not elite
16:09sustainable functioning. They need the adrenaline to find the gear. Take the pressure away. And what you'll
16:17find is it's usually hard for them to work. That's not a strength. That's a dependency. And emotional
16:23steadiness, that's actual flatness. And we call it composure. But there's a critical difference
16:29between a regulated leader and someone who is genuinely calm and a dysregulated leader who has
16:35gone emotionally offline. One is a resource. The other is a liability in disguise. From the outside,
16:43they can be nearly impossible to tell apart. That's why this work matters. So you can access that
16:50version of you without the dependency on adrenaline, without the need for that external validation
16:57of someone looking and saying, hey, look, they're killing it. They never rest on weekends. Because you
17:02can't build a sustainable foundation on that. And you can't solve an internal problem with more external
17:09effort. And that is something that really has changed the game in how I operate and how my clients
17:17operate. And that is something that I work to spread through my message in my workshops is to
17:21understand the nature and the mechanics of how performance truly operates.
17:26So where does the brain bleed fit into your larger understanding of recovery and listening to the
17:32body?
17:33Yeah, the brain bleed was a different kind of teacher. The 12-month odyssey that became resilient was
17:39intentional. I was testing and tracking. I was pushing to the edges of my own performance,
17:44coming to step in the ring with myself time and time again. And what I discovered was that
17:50regulation was the foundation of everything. The brain bleed removed my ability to choose any of
17:57that. There was no optimization. There was no override. My body gave me a ceiling I couldn't
18:03negotiate with and it didn't ask for my buy-in. So what it taught me in a way no framework
18:09could
18:09really replicate is that the body is always keeping score. It records every shortcut you've
18:18ever taken with your recovery, every stressor you've absorbed but didn't process. Every time you
18:24pushed through and called it a win, your body is keeping score. And it also forced a question I
18:30wasn't prepared for. When the performance is gone, when the output is gone, who are you? And a lot of
18:36high achievers, high performers don't have a clean answer to that question. Who am I without the
18:43output? And that's a problem that exists long before a medical event forces it to the surface,
18:48forces you to confront this aspect of yourself. So the brain bleed itself deepened what resilient
18:54teaches about identity, about recovery, about the long game, about sustainability to respond to the life
19:02that is already calling you to who you want to be and the things you want to do. It didn't
19:07create the
19:08work though. The work came from realizing that the ceiling isn't discipline, it's the floor beneath it.
19:14Gotcha. So why is regulation a more approachable entry point than say waiting for a crisis?
19:21Yeah, yeah. And that's such an important question to ask, especially today because the people who need
19:27this work often don't think they need this work, they're still performing, they're still producing,
19:33they're still receiving that external validation that tells them the machine is functioning, right?
19:38A crisis-based origin story, a collapse, a hospitalization, a breakdown, it's relatable for
19:45the person only who's already hit the floor. But it actually creates distance for the person who's
19:51still standing close to it. So the more honest doorway for this work is you don't have to hit the
19:58floor
19:58to recognize the floor is closer than it should be. You can still feel dysregulation without a diagnosis.
20:04You can feel the flatness, the chronic edge, the quiet depletion over time. The fact that your best
20:10performance requires more effort for the same output. You don't need a dramatic event to name that
20:18something feels off. Regulation, well, it's also a less threatening frame than burnout. Nobody wants
20:25to admit they're burning out. That's hard. But if I ask you whether you're recovered, whether you feel
20:30like you have full access to your capacity, whether you're available when I'm speaking to you or simply
20:35looping for the next threat, the next meeting, the next mental checklist, most high performers are going
20:41to pause. And that pause is the doorway. It doesn't require a crisis to walk through it. You don't have
20:46to
20:46wait till it gets to that point. We talk about the idea that within the rhythm of performance is an
20:52oscillation, right? Well, overwhelm is that shortened oscillation. Burnout is a flat line. It's loss of
20:57oscillation. And it doesn't have to get there for you to start doing something about it, for you to
21:02feel a little bit better any given day when you wake up. Because the earlier you walk through that
21:08doorway, that is the pause that says, you know, I want these things. I see these things. I hear these
21:14things. The earlier you walk through that door, the more of you you get to access and the more of
21:20your ceiling you get to keep before it becomes something that does demand a reckoning, right?
21:26Because sooner or later, your body knows and it's going to demand a reckoning if you don't start
21:31listening to it. So what do you think ambitious people most often misunderstand
21:38about pushing through? Yeah, yeah. Well, like me, they they think it's a strategy. And for a season
21:46that will work, which is exactly the problem, because early success with a bad strategy convinces
21:54you that the strategy is sound, right? Well, this works. But the human nervous system is resilient.
22:01It has redundancy built in. You can borrow against your reserves for a long time before the bill
22:07arrives. So when you push through and it works, you don't get accurate feedback. You get rewarded,
22:13you get reinforced, you get promoted. But what you're not seeing is that it's being drawn down
22:19in the background. You're building up this recovery debt, this regulatory capacity, the elasticity of
22:25your emotional response, the bandwidth you have for your family, for your relationships, for your
22:30deepest thinking. And the fundamental misunderstanding there is that you end up treating your body like
22:36a machine. Machines degrade predictably. You can push the red line and if it doesn't break, you've
22:43learned the limit, right? But the nervous system doesn't work that way. The damage accumulates in ways
22:48that aren't visible until they're significant. And the most dangerous season is often the one where
22:53everything still looks fine. Pushing through sometimes is necessary. I'm not saying don't do it,
22:58but it is a withdrawal, not a deposit. And most high achievers, most high performers
23:04are treating it like income. And withdrawals without deposits, well, they eventually collapse
23:10the account. So what is one simple way someone can begin restoring regulation before they hit a wall?
23:15Yeah, yeah. The simplest intervention I know is also one that's most underestimated. And that is
23:23a full stop. Not a break. Not switching from one demanding task to the next. Not checking your
23:29phone during the pause. A full stop. Two to three minutes where the goal is not productivity,
23:35not optimization, not self-improvement. The goal is to simply let your nervous system register that
23:41there is no threat right now. And most high performers are carrying a continuous activation load.
23:47Their system is running in the background like an app that never closes. Always scanning,
23:52always managing, always on low-level alert, even during rest. It's running. And a full stop is a
23:58signal. It says the threat response is not needed in this moment. And what makes it powerful isn't any
24:06single pause. It's repetition over time. This starts to rebuild the regulation floor. It lowers the
24:12baseline activation. A lower baseline means more range for when you actually need it for the people
24:18who need access to that version of you. So what I start everyone with and what I like to teach
24:24is a
24:2590-second regulation reset. I close every keynote with it because I want people to walk out with
24:30something that you can use immediately in the car. The goal is always to make the entry point as
24:35small as the gap between knowing and not knowing is wide. And I can walk you guys through it right
24:42now if you're interested. So I want you to start by softening your eyes. I want you to widen your
24:49peripheral vision. I want you to press your thumbnail gently into the pad of your middle finger. This
24:54prompts belly breathing instead of chest breathing. Now, lengthen your exhale slightly and feel your feet
25:01in your shoes. Place one hand on your solar plex and the other on your lower ribs. Don't change the
25:07breathing yet. First, just notice it. Is it high? Is it fast? Is it shallow? Now, inhale through your
25:14nose for four. Hold for two. Now, out for six. Again, in for four. Hold for two. Out for six.
25:20One more time.
25:21In for four. Hold for two. Out for six. Now, keep your posture tall. That steadiness, that safety,
25:27that clarity, that's your operating system stabilizing. And that availability, that's
25:33regulation. And if you notice, nothing in your external life changed in those few seconds.
25:39Your responsibilities didn't disappear. Your inbox probably didn't clear itself. The pressure
25:44didn't vanish, but the system changed. And once the system changes, your relationship to pressure
25:49changes. And that's the doorway. Awesome. Thank you for sharing that. If there's only one piece of
25:54advice you could give to people who are watching or listening today, what would it be?
25:57Yeah. The thing I hear most from the people who find me is, I don't know how I got here,
26:03but I cannot get myself to move. And that's the thing about overwhelm. It quietly narrows
26:10everything down until your options feel like zero. That's not a capability problem. That is a
26:17regulation problem. And that's exactly what I fix. So I'm launching a group program, four weeks,
26:23small room, very specific blueprint. And for anyone listening, I'm running a podcast offer right now
26:28for you alone, Mason. The code is unstuck and I'll give you 75% off. And the first 10 people
26:36who sign up
26:37using your code word, get a full human design reading on top of it. So you can actually understand
26:42the blueprint of how you are built, the architecture beneath you to start making decisions that are
26:48immediately something your body says yes to. And if something in you, if you're listening today,
26:55just went, yes, that's me. That's not a coincidence. Come find me, sevenpillarsystem.com,
27:02the number sevenpillarsystem.com. Let's go.
27:06Just going to say, what's the best way for them to reach out to you? Are you active on any
27:10of the
27:10social channels or LinkedIn? Yeah. You can find me across social at Jason Allen Borer.
27:16Awesome. Thank you so much. It's been a pleasure having you on.
27:19Thank you for having me. I've really enjoyed this.
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