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00:00Rob, why are we playing political commercials? It's May.
00:03Is this for November?
00:05There's some election coming up I don't know about.
00:07I'm not even trying to be funny.
00:08We're already playing political commercials?
00:11When do the primaries finish?
00:12I don't know. That's why I'm asking you. I don't know.
00:14I think August, which would be 60 days.
00:16So, yeah, that makes sense.
00:18I don't know. I was sitting here listening to it.
00:20I'm like, when did this start?
00:23I thought we were going to be playing soccer.
00:25Get ready for the World Soccer Championship kind of commercials.
00:28I'm here. I'm like, well, hold on. What's going on now?
00:31I was confused.
00:32Then I heard that guy was like, oh, he's been on the show before.
00:36Remember, he was the one that didn't want to vote for the stadium.
00:38Remember that?
00:39He did. He did.
00:40He did come on the show and did explain why he didn't want to vote for the stadium.
00:43Remember, he had to talk to all his contingents.
00:45Remember?
00:46Constituents.
00:46Yeah, that's what he kept saying.
00:48It's like, do you plan on voting?
00:50I got to talk.
00:50What are you talking about?
00:51Are you going to talk to everybody?
00:53He did stand firm on this.
00:55Yeah, people on the text line noticed it, too.
00:57Why was she talking like that?
00:59You got to step back from the microphone.
01:01I don't know.
01:02That's the first.
01:02I got to teach Val radio.
01:04What's going on now?
01:05She did every other traffic report fine.
01:06Then the last one, she was like, we got problems.
01:09That's exactly how she sounded.
01:13That's exactly how she.
01:14Do that again.
01:15That was funny.
01:16Her last traffic report was like, Chris, the heads up on 35.
01:22That's exactly what it sounded like.
01:25Oh, my goodness.
01:27People are saying the election.
01:30We're going to be having those kind of commercials on the show from now until November.
01:34I don't have six months of those commercials at me.
01:36Six months?
01:38There has to be something before November.
01:40There's no way.
01:41I'm just telling you what the text line says.
01:43I didn't know.
01:43Oh, I just that's not the kind of content I was expecting that.
01:48Whoa, Liberty Mutual.
01:51That's what I was expecting.
01:53We only have five commercials.
01:55I didn't know that's what we were doing all of a sudden.
01:58Liberty, Liberty.
01:59That's what I was expecting.
02:01I perked up.
02:02Like, whoa, why are we talking?
02:03Are you talking about bathrooms?
02:05I was very confused at what was happening during the commercial break.
02:09Then we had that truck stop traffic report that we had.
02:13I just it was a lot going on.
02:14I had no clue what was going on.
02:18Somebody on the text line says my heart can't take both bad baseball and political ads.
02:23I'd say.
02:25Someone else said, please, no more election content.
02:27I can't control that.
02:29It's not some federally regulated thing.
02:31You think I got the power to tell them?
02:32No, the commercial is not our content.
02:35Not at all.
02:36It's legal.
02:37You have to.
02:37You have to do it.
02:38I don't have any control over that.
02:40We don't sit here before they show.
02:41Like, all right.
02:42So we're thinking in the 411 break here.
02:44The election content or political ads.
02:46You think that's the one I would have picked if they gave me the pick.
02:51You think I was like walking.
02:52I was like picking tile.
02:54And I was like, you know what?
02:55Give me that one.
02:56That one right there.
02:57I would not have picked that commercial.
02:58If given the choice, I don't have a choice.
03:01Hey, just throw it on there.
03:02It's the law.
03:03Picking tiles.
03:04An incredible analogy.
03:05Look at you.
03:06That was well done.
03:07You know, I do this for a living sometimes.
03:09You know, I practice.
03:11All right.
03:11I look this up.
03:12You know what?
03:13I knew this.
03:15But doing this exercise during the commercial break, it was very interesting.
03:22Rob, did you know that there's only seven players on the team that are currently playing
03:27under an extension?
03:29There's only seven guys on the team.
03:32Well, if I think about it, Kelsey no longer is playing under that extension anymore.
03:36So, I mean, Kelsey obviously has been on the team.
03:37I'm not saying that.
03:38But there's only seven guys who are on that extension.
03:43There's a lot of guys still on rookie deals.
03:46Simmons, Worthy, R.
03:47Mason Thomas, Felix, we can go up and down the list.
03:50There's only seven guys on the team playing on an extension.
03:53This is the list.
03:54So, like, now that we're having this conversation about restructured contracts, hell, you've
03:58almost restructured all of them this year.
04:00Patrick Mahomes, Chris Jones, Trey Smith, George Karloftis, Creed Humphrey, Nick Bolton,
04:07Harrison Bucker, and Noah Gray.
04:08Those are the only guys currently on the Chiefs team that is playing under an extension.
04:13Now, they have guys signed to multiple deals, but Justin Fields was a free agent.
04:17Jalen Moore was a free agent.
04:18Like, you're not restructuring those deals at this point.
04:21Moore only had a two-year contract.
04:22You can't really restructure his deal if you really want to.
04:25Christian Fulton, et cetera.
04:26So, like, seven guys there.
04:28Now, back to our main point, we were talking about George Karloftis.
04:31I mean, you've already restructured Patrick Mahomes' deal, and you've now restructured George
04:37Karloftis' deal.
04:38Like, you're running out of contracts that you could potentially move some money.
04:43If you don't want to move Chris Jones' money around, because that would lock him onto the
04:49team, so I did this math during the commercial break, that would save $19 million next year.
04:54You just move some money around with George.
04:56Creed Humphrey, to me, seems like a very logical candidate to do it.
05:00Bolton, you can cut Bolton at the end of this season and save $15 million.
05:04And Harrison Bucker, you can move on from him and save $5 million, which I know is a small
05:09amount of money.
05:10But when you're a kicker, saving $5 million is a pretty substantial amount of money, especially
05:15if Harrison Bucker is not going to be the 2022 version.
05:18I mean, what happens to be the case in all these situations is all those players are starting
05:25to have diminishing returns.
05:26Like, you mentioned Harrison Bucker at the end there.
05:28There's diminishing returns on Chris Jones.
05:30Text line loves to point out those diminishing returns.
05:33So, the text line earlier mentioning Nick Bolton was saying that he's getting a little bit
05:36slower.
05:37I mean, that's just age and how it works.
05:38So, like, this is the yin and the yang and the positive and the negative of getting guys
05:42extended.
05:43But I'm actually very surprised if you only have seven extension players on the roster.
05:46That feels low.
05:47Yeah, it just, I mean, maybe it's not.
05:49I just, because I went on spot track and I just typed it up and then I started looking.
05:53I was like, wait, they don't really have a lot of these contracts.
05:59Now, I will say, I'm not here to be Debbie Downer.
06:03I'm not here to be negative, but some of this kind of explains how we got to this point.
06:09If you want to look at these seven deals, Patrick Mahomes, different conversation.
06:14Let's move him over here.
06:15So, we really got six other contracts.
06:18Trey Smith, aging player, end of his deal.
06:22Maybe the Chiefs shouldn't have done that deal.
06:25I'm not mad at it, but maybe they shouldn't have done the deal.
06:29Trey Smith plays interior offensive lineman.
06:31George Karloftis, safe to say, hasn't lived up to expectation so far.
06:36I mean, of the deal or of, because right now I'd say he's.
06:40Yes, is the answer to your question.
06:42Yes.
06:42His year one in the contract money was pretty low.
06:45So, I would say he's par for the course.
06:47He's not exceeding, but he's not under yet.
06:50Patrick Mahomes, torn ACL.
06:51Chris Jones, maybe over the hill.
06:53Trey Smith, the Trey Smith contract.
06:56Who's his agent?
06:57I should hire Trey Smith's agent to represent me.
07:01Do you know what, Trey Smith?
07:03Trey Smith's dead cap is $56 million this year and $32 million.
07:08They cannot cut Trey Smith.
07:10I don't think they were planning on it, but he has a guarantee.
07:15He has a $70 million guarantee.
07:17He got $17 million to sign, and he basically cannot be cut in the first three years of the deal.
07:23Trey Smith got an incredible, he has the second best contract on the team.
07:28Maybe third, you would say, after Chris Jones' deal.
07:31Their contracts go Patrick Mahomes, Chris Jones, two first ballot Hall of Famers, and Trey Smith, in terms of how
07:40the money works out.
07:41Creed Humphrey, good player.
07:43Nick Bolton, good player.
07:45Harrison Bucker, another deal.
07:47I understand why at the time they made the deal for Harrison Bucker.
07:53I would not be mad to get out of the Harrison Bucker contract right now.
07:56I don't think that it is a good one for the Chiefs.
07:59I think you were paying Harrison Bucker in 2026 for kicks he made in 2023, which again, I understand why
08:05the Chiefs were in the position where they had to end up making those moves.
08:08They don't have the best kicker in their division.
08:11I'm not sure if they got the second best kicker in their division.
08:14They're paying like it, though.
08:16He's the second highest paid kicker in the league behind Brandon Aubrey, who just got that new deal from the
08:20Cowboys.
08:21So they're paying second overall money, and they maybe have a middle-of-the-road kicker.
08:26At least that's what he was last year.
08:28The Chiefs did not have a dynamic special teams unit, and a large portion of that was because of him.
08:32I also, because of his position, like we don't have, this show loves positional values.
08:37We don't have to hammer it home here, because I think we all agree on where kicker lies.
08:40Like we're not going to argue about a lot of positions.
08:43Kicker is not one of them.
08:45I think even if he returns a 2023 form, he's probably done with the Chiefs in the season, right?
08:50He just, there's no way, it's just so much smarter financial decision-making to walk on a kicker and find
08:56the next one.
08:57You found Harrison Bucker on someone's practice squad.
09:00You turned him into a good player, and he's been great for the organization.
09:04Maybe even the best kicker in the history of the franchise, but he just, he can't be back next year.
09:09He's too expensive.
09:10Like, even if he gets back to 2023, 2024 form, I just, he's got to go.
09:16It's kind of one and done for Harrison Bucker here.
09:18Yeah, text line 913-586-7965.
09:21See that he's protecting my homes.
09:22There's no issues in giving our O-line guys paydays.
09:25I completely understand that.
09:27I've been on this side from day one.
09:29I've never really liked the Trey Smith contract.
09:32I think it's, I think it's a poor way of allocating your funds is maybe the best way of saying
09:39it.
09:39I think it's a bad way of doing it and paying.
09:44Trey Smith makes more money than AJ Brown does.
09:47Like, they're paying for an all-pro wide receiver at right guard, who I, I think Trey Smith is a,
09:53is a, is a good player.
09:56I, I've always thought that the Trey Smith contract is one that I would have been happy to walk away
10:00from the table.
10:01The Creed Humphrey contract's not really that bad.
10:04Four for 72 is not really that bad.
10:06Creed Humphrey's getting four for 72.
10:08Trey Smith is getting four for 94 and got 70 million.
10:14Trey Smith got more guaranteed than basically in the entire amount of the Creed Humphrey deal.
10:19They got fleeced in the Trey Smith contract.
10:21They really ain't no other way to look at it.
10:23They got fleeced on that deal.
10:25I'm trying to mirror the timeline here.
10:26Did they, they tagged Smith for a while, right?
10:29And then they had, and then they got killed.
10:30Yeah.
10:30This is why tagging and extending is usually a losing investment for the team when it comes to contract negotiation.
10:37And if we want to now play this conversation out, kind of looking ahead.
10:41So, I mean, these are decisions they got in the next year or so.
10:44You save 19 million for moving on from Jones.
10:47Now let's see if they potentially have his replacement on the roster.
10:50If Peter Woods is good this year and you got Woods and Tonga, maybe you feel a lot too.
10:56Yeah.
10:56Maybe you feel inclined that you can move on from Chris Jones.
10:58I mean, everybody is not playing their entire career in one organization.
11:02It'd be great.
11:03My homes, Kelsey Jones, everybody.
11:05I mean, we saw how this ended for the Cowboys.
11:08Their triplets did not all end up in Cowboys Jersey.
11:11We saw how it ended for the Patriots.
11:13Somebody is going to play for a random team.
11:15That's just how this thing works.
11:16So you save 19 million on Chris Jones.
11:19You save $15 million on Bolton.
11:21They say five again on Bucker.
11:23That's a low.
11:24You also got to think about what they might have to pay for next season.
11:27They're going to have to pay for a right tackle next year.
11:30Wide receiver.
11:31I had that next.
11:32You have to pay for a wide receiver next year.
11:34These are usually big ticket items.
11:37Now, unless they're going to have a rookie right tackle, which I mean, they shown they'll
11:40have a rookie left tackle.
11:41Why would they not have a rookie right tackle?
11:43Or they better hope that this Issa Pole kid really works.
11:48I mean, that would be best case scenario for the Chiefs.
11:51Best case scenario for the Chiefs is Issa Pole pays right tackle for them in 2027, and
11:55they don't got to spend a whole lot of money on it.
11:57And then they can go big at wide receiver because I'm guessing there will be somebody
12:01you can go big on in wide receiver.
12:04There always is every single year.
12:05If you want to swing big at wide out, you usually can.
12:08Like I can look it up wide receiver free agents for next year.
12:11There's going to be one or two names, the kind of the same way that we circled Brees
12:16Hall, Kenneth Walker.
12:17There's going to be those guys available wide receivers.
12:19There's too many of them.
12:20I mean, even I, I'm not advocating for the Chiefs to sign this player next year, but like
12:25look at the contract.
12:26Alec Pierce just got.
12:27If you're hitting free agency, a wide receiver, you're getting paid.
12:31You don't have to be AJ Brown.
12:32You don't have to be prime Tyree kill.
12:34If you're Alec Pierce, the contract is coming.
12:36The Chiefs will probably be a team that doles that contract out at this time next year.
12:41Yeah.
12:42Someone on the text line says, and I understand this point.
12:44See that you're arguing the salary between guard versus center.
12:47I also just don't know how good of money it is.
12:51Like I think Trace Smith's a good player.
12:53If we had to make a list of the power rankings of important players on the team, I don't,
12:57I don't know where you would put Trace Smith on that list for this team.
13:01He's making edge rusher money.
13:04Basically a position that understandably is expensive.
13:08And you still kind of need for this team.
13:10It's because the right guards gobbling up all the money here.
13:13Let me keep talking for a little bit.
13:14I'll try to pull this up.
13:15I'm trying to pull up the number.
13:16You're the one mentioned it.
13:17I'm trying to find the move for you.
13:19I'm trying to find the deal.
13:20Now he can't get Jalen Phillips.
13:22Jalen Phillips was an extreme example, but there were definitely edge rushers available this
13:26off season.
13:26This is basically like having Montez sweat on the team.
13:28There you go.
13:29I'm looking at right now.
13:29A player who's in the news because of a trade possibility.
13:32Montez sweat would have been the player.
13:33Yeah.
13:34This is equivalent of Montez sweat or Jonathan Grinard.
13:38That's basically kind of what Trace Smith is ended up making.
13:41So that's what we're talking about.
13:42It's a, it's a significant amount of money.
13:44Now we obviously know at pass rusher, that ceiling gets pretty high up there and it gets
13:48up there like real, real quick.
13:50I mean, Michael Parsons deal was for $186 million.
13:53So we're talking a pretty substantial amount of money.
13:56So it's just, it's something to keep in mind in terms of the long-term planning with the
13:59chiefs that all of these financial decisions, whether you're restructuring deals or moving
14:04money around, there's a, there's a plus and a negative.
14:08It is just not all good.
14:09There's going to be a reaction to all of those moves and there's, that's where they can create
14:14a little bit of cap space.
14:15Also, again, keeping in mind, I mean, they're going to have to make some big time decisions
14:20at right tackle, which again is not cheap and also wide receiver.
14:25That's what I'm saying.
14:25The best thing for this team is Issa pole a works out.
14:29So you don't got to spend big time money on right tackle.
14:32And then you can, you have the cap space to figure it out at wide receiver next year,
14:36because you might be in a position in 2027 that you have to find Travis Kelsey's replacement.
14:41And you also got to find somebody to replace Rasheed Rice.
14:44That will be very difficult to do in one off season.
14:46You know, it's funny to me about this conversation is with Chris Jones and everything.
14:49Do you remember that time in chiefs lore where fans were elated?
14:53We never pay the highest contract at any position.
14:56That's what makes us so great.
14:58We never are the overpay team.
14:59The chiefs can only have the most expensive tight end.
15:02That may have recently changed with some contract negotiations, but going in, they had most
15:06expensive tight end, most expensive right guard, most expensive center.
15:10And they walked on the most expensive corner, but they had him on the roster at one point
15:15with a negotiation.
15:16Like one of the reasons the chiefs are quote weak.
15:20Other positions is they're now paying not just a premium, the top, top, top dollar, a lot
15:27of positions across the NFL.
15:28And we haven't even talked about quarterback, which his contract has so many maneuvers and
15:33levers.
15:34You can pull that one day he could be the most expensive quarterback in the league.
15:36Just like blink of an eye.
15:38Yeah.
15:38Someone on the text line says, M I Z dot the worst contract on our team is Nick Bolton.
15:42That's not even kind of accurate.
15:44No, it's Trey Smith.
15:44I'm not even saying that as a Mizzou fan.
15:46I mean, the Nick Bolton deal is not that bad.
15:49He got three for 45.
15:50He got 30 of it guaranteed, but it basically is a two-year deal.
15:54His cap hit was super low in 2025.
15:56It was only $6.5 million.
15:58That jumps up this year.
16:00I mean, eventually you got to pay against the cap and then they get the opportunity to cut
16:03him at the end of the second year of the deal and then move on from it and say $15
16:07million that Nick Bolton contract extension is not that bad at all.
16:11It's not really prohibitive of anything.
16:13Now, if your argument is I'd rather spend that on a wide receiver or spend that on something
16:18else, I think that's a very fair argument, but the Nick Bolton contract is not the worst
16:23contract on their team.
16:23It's not.
16:24I don't think it's that close.
16:26It's in the top.
16:27What?
16:2810.
16:28If you're making less of the top 10 worst contracts probably is, but that's just, that's
16:31the nature of extension.
16:32I only think they have three bad contracts on their team.
16:35Butker Smith and Jones.
16:37Yeah.
16:38That's probably, I think it was, we're saying bad.
16:40Yeah.
16:40Yeah.
16:40Cause I mean, who else is paid on the team?
16:42Like you don't think Creed's contract is bad.
16:44Noah Gray's contract's not bad.
16:46Like if they only got seven guys that are under extensions and everybody else is either
16:50on a one year or two year deal.
16:52I don't think Carl Loftus is the worst deal on the team.
16:55I don't think it's bad yet.
16:56I don't, it, it could trend bad.
16:58It could absolutely get bad if you want it to get bad.
17:00It's not bad right now though.
17:01Yeah.
17:02They, I mean, they don't pay other positions.
17:04Yeah.
17:04I mean, I guess, I guess technically you could argue that it's the worst deal, but
17:07if, if Nick Bolton's deal is the worst deal that you have, then your team is in, your
17:11team should be in good financial shape.
17:13His deal is not prohibitive.
17:14Last year, he had a $2 million base and a $6.5 million cap hit.
17:20That's not a bad contract for a good player.
17:22Not at all.
17:23And again, you can get out of it in two years.
17:24So you were never going to get stuck.
17:26They got stuck with Juwan Taylor's contract.
17:30Now I will, I will join the texter in their opinion on that.
17:34If they extend him at the end of this year, it's a different conversation.
17:36I'm because then he'll be at 28 and extending him again that, but for now it's not the worst
17:40contract on the team.
17:41There's, there's only two or three albatross contracts on the team, which if we went through
17:46the spot track of every 32 NFL teams, every team is carrying one or two wolf.
17:51You're paying that guy, that contract.
17:52That's just how sports work at this point.
17:54Yeah, for sure.
17:55Yeah.
17:55I mean, I, I, I think you and I on the same page, their worst contract is one of those
17:59three Jones, Bucker or Smith and the Bucker contract again is I think pretty relative
18:03just because you can get out of Jones.
18:05Jones has an out in nine months.
18:08You can get out from Joe.
18:09Not if you want to restructure.
18:10I am a I'm team.
18:12No restructure though.
18:12I'm Jones.
18:13You're right.
18:14It could get worse, but right now I'm team.
18:17Take your medicine with Chris Jones and cut him in February or March.
18:21Whenever it's cut time coming up at the top of the hour, we will get to the top
18:25stories of the day.
18:26I think the chiefs OTAs is defined by two things.
18:30I'll tell you what that is.
18:30Keep it right here.
18:31So.
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