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The K&C Masterpiece dove into some Gridiron Gravy and took a look at news from around the entire NFL. They questioned who the next Cowboys player will be elected to the Hall of Fame. They debated the potential for Zack Martin and Jason Witten, and more.
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00:00It's time to go around the entire NFL and dip it in some gridiron gravy.
00:06N-D-I-P!
00:09Dip it, rip it.
00:10By the way, Alec, it's not exactly a shout-out, but if you want to make that person's day,
00:15they would love to hear our six-second ad for beer.
00:19Oh, yes.
00:21Where Corey jumps in.
00:22Twins!
00:23That would really make their day.
00:24All right, so I told you about the next Hall of Famers list from NFL.com.
00:32We talked about the sad case for Fred Taylor and the Jags, Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, all that stuff.
00:38Who will be the next Hall of Famer elected from the Dallas Cowboys?
00:44Maybe you think it's somebody who's waiting.
00:46Maybe it's somebody who's on the team now.
00:48What say you?
00:49After this year's Super Bowl, Dak Prescott.
00:54That will still take five years.
00:56Okay.
00:57Yeah, he'll be the next one.
00:58Wouldn't you think Zach Martin would get in before that?
01:01They're going to go in at the same time.
01:02Zach's going to say, I'll wait until Dak gets in.
01:05Kyle Yeomans.
01:06Okay.
01:07Well.
01:08Dude, that's the best option.
01:10Yeah.
01:10Kyle Yeomans.
01:12Mm-hmm.
01:12Okay.
01:13He's in my Hall of Fame.
01:14So, I think...
01:16Yeah, sure is Zach Martin, Kevin.
01:17I think Zach Martin is a lock for the class of 2029 first ballot Hall of Famer.
01:25He's a seven-time first-team All-Pro.
01:29Two-time second-team All-Pro.
01:31So, he played 11 seasons.
01:32Nine of those seasons, he was an All-Pro.
01:35Tony Buscelli was fantastic.
01:37And remember how...
01:39True, but not this fantastic.
01:41I don't know how to judge that either.
01:44Other than the Pro Bowls and All-Pros.
01:46Like, I don't know what stats you can go by.
01:48Tony Buscelli, for example, made the first-team All-Pro three times.
01:52Right.
01:53And Zach Martin is seven.
01:54So, I think he is a...
01:56At tackle.
01:57Two.
01:58That's true.
01:59Guard's weak, dude.
02:00Oh, man.
02:02I'm just joking.
02:02I want you to tell Zach Martin that.
02:03No, he'd punch me.
02:04So, he should get in for 2029, but will there be somebody...
02:09Darren Woodson.
02:10...before that?
02:11Who do you think is going to get in?
02:13Darren Woodson.
02:14Darren Woodson or Jason Witten first?
02:17Jason Witten.
02:18I hate it.
02:20I hate it.
02:21But Jason Witten, like...
02:23Jason Witten is a very well-known...
02:25Right.
02:25...Cowboys player across the country, too.
02:27I mean, the dude lost his helmet and ran for 84 more yards or something like that.
02:32He lost his hair, too, and then it came back?
02:34Stop it.
02:36You remember that.
02:37There are lots of things people can do nowadays, Kevin, if they want their hair back.
02:43I think he should have chosen somebody else.
02:45This is what I'll say to that.
02:48But, yeah, like, I think...
02:51If I was choosing, and it's not because he's not in yet, it's because I watched the dude
02:56play, and I know what he stands for.
02:59It would be Darren Woodson.
03:00I just think the way that things have gone so far, that they are...
03:05They're like, we refuse.
03:06And I'm like, why?
03:08They're like, just because y'all won it so badly.
03:10Now, this is a different person than the person who texted in pushing this yesterday.
03:16There is no universe in which Fred Taylor belongs in the Hall of Fame.
03:24It does not exist.
03:26If not for the years he was injured, he would have had, like, 15 straight years of 1,000-yard
03:31running game seasons.
03:32I mean, that would have been awesome.
03:33But also, if you get 1,000 yards, that means you average, like, 63 yards a game.
03:38That was back in the day, though, Kevin.
03:39So...
03:401,000 yards was important.
03:41I don't think it was that important.
03:44I think we over...
03:45Then why did we always talk about it?
03:47Because it was a nice round number.
03:49It's not as much fun to be like, oh, he's part of the 1,200-yard club.
03:53And you're like, oh...
03:54I do not understand why you've got to attack Fred Taylor like this so much.
03:59Because there's multiple people saying he belongs in the Hall of Fame, which is laughable.
04:03There is never a time when anyone for years in a row thought Fred Taylor was one of the
04:11best running backs in football.
04:14Just, it didn't happen.
04:16He was a highlight reel.
04:17He was a human highlight reel, Kevin.
04:19Sure.
04:20His first three years.
04:2317th all-time on the rush top.
04:2520 rushing lists.
04:26That's awesome.
04:27Was there ever a time when you thought, man, Fred Taylor's the best?
04:31Yeah.
04:32On that highlight that I saw him run for like 64 yards, I was like, holy cow.
04:36He almost got tackled four times.
04:39And then, obviously, they came back to our game and I forgot about it.
04:43Exactly!
04:44Because that's what Fred Taylor was there for.
04:47Because it was Jacksonville!
04:47Nobody cared about Jacksonville!
04:49Exactly!
04:50If he was on your team, great.
04:51If not, you forgot about him.
04:53Four, six yards of carry, dude.
04:54Yes!
04:55Good job!
04:56Better than Frank Gore, who also belongs in it.
04:58I also do not think Frank Gore belongs in the Hall of Fame.
05:00You can think what you want.
05:02Fred Taylor was a second-team All-Pro one time.
05:07So there's that.
05:10You put too much weight into All-Pros.
05:12The Hall of Fame voters put that weight...
05:15You put it in there.
05:16...on All-Pros.
05:16You told the Hall of Fame voters to put the weight on it.
05:19Frank Gore also was second-team All-Pro once.
05:23And it just makes sense.
05:24Have it up.
05:24That's two second teams or one first team.
05:27But what you're saying is a running back who was never considered among the best at his position,
05:36or one time in his entire career was considered top four in a season as a Hall of Famer.
05:42He was considered the top running back in the heart, Kevin.
05:45He can be the top running back in your heart, just not in a physical building that represents the actual
05:51Hall of Fame.
05:51I just love trying to stomp on childhood dreams.
05:53That's what I feel like is happening here right now.
05:56No!
05:57What's going to happen...
05:58Accept it!
05:59...is I'm going to buy you, for Christmas...
06:01You're not getting a pony!
06:02...a dual autograph Frank Gore and Fred Taylor football for $7.
06:08Because that's what it will cause.
06:11In what universe does a top 20 all-time running back stop it?
06:16Stop it.
06:17Fred Taylor is not a top 20 running back.
06:21And before...
06:22All yards!
06:23Technically, he was 19th all-time!
06:2617th.
06:27Raw awesome.
06:2817th.
06:28So you think he's the 17th best running back?
06:32No, he has the 17th most yards.
06:33Yeah!
06:34Great!
06:34Because you were around a long time, and at the end of your career, you stuck around to
06:39build up a bunch of spare-ass counting stats.
06:41Give me Terrell Davis over him every single time, and I know he doesn't have anywhere near
06:47as many yards as Fred Taylor, but he was infinitely better.
06:51But his headaches kept him off the field.
06:56What?
06:57Terrell Davis.
06:58Migraines.
06:59He had migraines, and there were games he couldn't play because of.
07:02Okay.
07:03He had...
07:03You know what?
07:04In three years at the end of his career, I had 500, 200, and 100.
07:08Yeah!
07:08That's not padding stats.
07:12He had three years that he didn't get to 1,000 yards, or 1,200 yards at least, in his
07:18first
07:19like 10 years of his career.
07:22That's really good.
07:23So, you're here to tell me you believe Fred Taylor's a Hall of Famer.
07:30Yeah!
07:31All right, let's go through this real quick.
07:34Mm-hmm.
07:35Emmett Smith.
07:36Yep.
07:37Walter Payton.
07:39Yes.
07:40Why?
07:40Number three, Frank Gore.
07:43No.
07:44All right?
07:44Barry Sanders.
07:46Yes.
07:46Adrian Peterson.
07:47Yes.
07:49I'm skipping Curtis Martin.
07:50LaDainian Tomlinson.
07:51What?
07:52Hold on!
07:52I know your answer.
07:53Hold on!
07:54You hate Curtis Martin, too.
07:55Yeah, you can't do that!
07:56You hate Curtis Martin.
07:57No!
07:57All right, so that's three that you think or knows at this point.
08:02Mm-hmm.
08:02Or two, at least.
08:03Mm-hmm.
08:03LaDainian Tomlinson.
08:05Yes.
08:05Jerome Bettis.
08:07Oh, yeah.
08:09Played for a storied franchise.
08:10Yeah, that probably...
08:11Barely hung on to a championship game.
08:13Wow.
08:13Eric Dickerson.
08:16Yes.
08:16Eric Henry.
08:17Yes.
08:18Tony D.
08:19Yes.
08:20Jim Brown.
08:21Yeah.
08:22Marshall Falk.
08:23Yes.
08:24The Edge.
08:26Not the wrestler.
08:27Edrin James.
08:30I'll think about that.
08:31Marcus Allen.
08:32Yeah.
08:33Franco Harris.
08:34Actually, I think maybe Marcus Allen's case should be re-evaluated.
08:37What?
08:38Look, you're not going to take him out of the Hall of Fame.
08:41Dude, Marcus Allen walks in this room right now, you're like, hand him the football.
08:45Yeah.
08:45Right now!
08:46He'll get three and a half yards for you.
08:48Yeah.
08:48That's all that that offense called for.
08:52Franco Harris.
08:53That's a great point.
08:54Uh, no.
08:56But that's...
08:57Because he didn't catch that ball?
08:58I mean, that's also probably at least a little bit because of the Steelers thing.
09:02Thurman Thomas.
09:04Yes.
09:05Right.
09:05So you said no to three of those guys.
09:10That's right.
09:10And maybe to one of them.
09:12That's right.
09:13And then Fred Taylor's next.
09:14Yeah.
09:15Fred Taylor.
09:16Now, that being said, the next one is Steven Jackson.
09:20Do you think he's a...
09:20No.
09:21Do you think that John Riggins is?
09:25Uh, that one I'll have to pass.
09:28Corey Dillon.
09:28Uh, no.
09:29OJ Simpson.
09:31I mean...
09:32I mean...
09:59What?
09:59I'm looking at it.
10:00One of his standout seasons.
10:02Hey.
10:03Great job, Fred Taylor.
10:051,572 yards.
10:07That was sixth in the NFL.
10:10People forget.
10:11This is at a time when 20-plus running backs per year were having 1,000 yards.
10:16Fred Taylor is not a Hall of Famer.
10:19Fred Taylor had 14,079 all-purpose yards in his career.
10:25You know where that puts him, Kevin?
10:27Where?
10:2855th in all-purpose yards.
10:30That was not...
10:33That is not as compelling.
10:35All right.
10:36So, Darren Woodson's not in the Hall of Fame, but you want Fred Taylor in the Hall of Fame.
10:40I argued Fred Taylor's side.
10:42And I think it is time to concede that he was a lot of fun to watch.
10:46There you go!
10:48For anybody out there...
10:49Thank you!
10:50...loves Fred Taylor just like I do, hates Kevin now.
10:54I mean, you can love him all you want.
10:56What about hating you, though?
10:58Based on the fact that you're so excited about Fred Taylor not getting in.
11:01I would prefer that you did not hate me, but to be fair, I get it.
11:06Crushing our dreams, dude.
11:07I'm sorry.
11:08Also, Joe Shane signed a multi-year extension with the Giants, so people can continue to make mistakes.
11:15Matthew Stafford agreed to a one-year extension for 2027 that can have a base value of $55 million worth
11:23up to $60 million with incentives.
11:25And Brendan Sorsby's injunction hearing is set for June 1st.
11:28Look, there was a lot of stuff.
11:30We got caught up on Fred Taylor.
11:32And if you want to bring that back, fine.
11:34Good night.
11:34Good night.
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