00:00We broke the Jalen Phillips and the Pittman news.
00:04I gave you the rundown right at the beginning of the segment.
00:06You got to tolo, everybody, because something's always happening.
00:09And right now, Kevin, commanders are signing veteran cornerback Amick Robertson
00:13to a two-year, $16 million deal with $9.3 million guaranteed.
00:18That's where the cornerback market is right now.
00:21The safety market could be right in that a little bit less than that.
00:25And so we're kind of keeping an eye.
00:27I think that's what I'm keeping an eye on the most, Alec,
00:29is your safety market, your edge, where Trey Hendrickson is,
00:34and what the Cowboys are going to do at linebacker.
00:36So a lot of negotiations happening in the legal tampering period.
00:40Hopefully the Cowboys have a very significant plan,
00:43because we were told they were coming up with a detailed plan for this offseason
00:47and to correct their defense.
00:48But right now it's time to go around the entire NFL
00:50and dip into some gridiron gravy.
00:56Dip it.
00:58Don't skip it.
00:59You know, I said that the Stars attorney had the best line of the weekend.
01:07Perhaps I spoke too soon.
01:10Did you see Geno Smith's social media game over the weekend?
01:14I did not.
01:15Because it is effing elite.
01:17So Geno Smith, get word, he's going to be let go.
01:22And so Wendy's put out a tweet and said,
01:25At Geno Smith 3, in case things don't work out in free agency,
01:28we're looking for a chief tasting officer.
01:30To which Geno Smith posted an article from a month ago that said,
01:38Wendy's sales plunged last quarter, and it said,
01:42Get your cheese up first.
01:47Which is tremendous.
01:49So he fires back, huh?
01:50Yes.
01:51Yes, he did.
01:52I kind of like that.
01:54I kind of like the idea of him just kind of looking around at all of these potential job openings
01:59and being like, hey, I'll take on all of these jobs because I'm the best at all of them.
02:04Yeah.
02:06But he was like, they don't make enough money for me.
02:08They don't have enough right now.
02:09It was amazing.
02:11Or was he suggesting more cheese on the burgers?
02:14Man, I feel like it was a takedown of the business because that subhead was doing a lot of work.
02:19Talked about how sales fell 11.3% and were the worst Wendy's results in 20 years.
02:24Gotcha.
02:24And so I appreciate Geno Smith firing back right there.
02:29All right.
02:30Let's go from that to, you know, when we talked about all these deals,
02:34we didn't get a chance to talk about the Trey McDuffie extension too, too much.
02:40Four years, $124 million.
02:42So that's $31 million per year.
02:46I did want to add that it looks like the Bears are adding a safety, Kevin.
02:51Safety and Super Bowl champion Kobe Bryant.
02:54Oh, nice.
02:56To their team.
02:57We discussed him a little bit last week.
02:59Yes, we did.
02:59As well.
03:00So that move is being made.
03:01They also added Neville Gallimore, two for 12,
03:05although I feel like that probably doesn't move the needle quite as much.
03:08I did not know he was in the league still.
03:10Oh, okay.
03:11My brain just was like, he's done.
03:13Okay.
03:14So obviously we want the best,
03:16but I wanted to run down a couple of worst case scenarios for you.
03:21All right.
03:21In terms of, is this the worst free agent signing of all time?
03:25Now, I realize, what's that?
03:27Malik Willis.
03:28No, not Malik Willis.
03:30Time will tell on that.
03:31Okay.
03:31But I wanted to focus in on things that have already happened.
03:36And I know a lot of people are going to say Cowboys, but guess what?
03:39Good news.
03:39They're not anywhere near the top of this list.
03:42Number two on the list, and this just happened.
03:45Christian Wilkins.
03:46He got a four-year, $110 million deal with $82.7 million guaranteed.
03:56I believe at the time that might have been the highest guarantee for a non-quarterback.
04:02And, well, five weeks into 2024, he had a season-ending injury,
04:08and then he refused to go for a second foot injury,
04:11which voided the guarantees in his contract.
04:14So, that feels like one of the worst ever.
04:18Both of them lost.
04:18I mean, yes.
04:20And the Raiders gave Wilkins $83 million for five games.
04:24Wow.
04:25And I know you might be thinking, how can it be worse than that?
04:28By the way, Kobe Bryant, three years, $40 million a year.
04:31I'm not, $40 million.
04:33I understand.
04:34Total.
04:35That number right there, that's a number, Kevin.
04:39Hopefully, we can get in under that one.
04:41Is that number too high for you?
04:42I'm wanting $11, $10, you know, I'm wanting that for,
04:45but we'll see where Jalen Thompson's number is.
04:47Yeah, that deal was terrible for both sides.
04:50Well, what if I told you it was eclipsed only by Albert Hainsworth?
04:55This was, my recollection of this was it was absolute toilet swirling all the way down.
05:04So, from the moment they were like, hey, will you go do some conditioning test for us?
05:10And he was like, let's watch this, see how it goes.
05:12So, he signed with Washington.
05:15It was seven years, $100 million.
05:20I believe that first year he was there, he played 12 games with them.
05:26But then the next year, he got suspended for, as you just were kind of hinting at,
05:32refusing to cooperate with Mike Shanahan and the head coaching staff.
05:37And then they traded him the next year for a fifth-round pick.
05:42In the two years he was there, Washington won 10 games.
05:46Nice.
05:46Congratulations to them.
05:48But I do have good news for you.
05:49You know how many Cowboys players were on this top 50 biggest free agent bus list?
05:53None.
05:54Now, could you argue that it's because the Cowboys eventually got scared of participating in free agency?
06:01Maybe.
06:01Yeah.
06:02But, you know.
06:04And, I mean, the Albert Hainsworth thing is kind of why.
06:07Because you go out there and you go sign a dude for a significant amount of money, injury, whatever it
06:14is,
06:14and you were relying on that player.
06:16You were.
06:17Now, should that scare you in this business, look at it as like the restaurant business.
06:22You're going to break glasses and plates.
06:24You're going to have to replace them.
06:25That's just part of doing business in the restaurant business.
06:28That's part of your overhead.
06:30Sometimes injured players are going to happen whenever you pay for them.
06:34That's overhead.
06:34You've got to figure out the proper balance when you sign these guys.
06:38The talent level, are they on their way up?
06:41Are they, like, you can't predict if a guy who's 27 years old is going to get hurt or not.
06:47Right.
06:48You just kind of have to hope that you planned the best for it and made some room for it
06:51as well.
06:51Yeah.
06:52No, you're right about that.
06:53I found this to be pretty interesting.
06:57Who do you think Steelers fans want as their quarterback?
07:01Like, while we're in the midst of all the free agent things, what do you think the Steelers fans want?
07:05Fernando Mendoza.
07:07I think this is of people, you know what, actually, maybe.
07:11Probably Aaron Rodgers.
07:12Aaron Rodgers is third at 17%.
07:15Second, Mack Jones at 24%.
07:20That makes a lot of sense, actually.
07:21And first, Will Howard at 33%.
07:24That means two times as many Steelers fans want Will Howard to be the starting quarterback for the Steelers as
07:30Aaron Rodgers.
07:31That is, that's very interesting.
07:37The, I, they, they feel like when they watched him in college, he had a level of toughness that just
07:42fits them, right?
07:43Yeah.
07:44Like, I think that's one of the reasons, plus, they're familiar.
07:47Mack Jones is interesting, too, because he, did he get the turnaround after working with the Niners?
07:54Did he, you know, did that change his life?
07:56It feels like it, right?
07:56Can we be the next team to take advantage of what Shanahan couldn't keep?
08:00Yeah, somebody asked, hold on, why wasn't Deshaun Watson the No. 1 worst free agency signing?
08:06Good question.
08:07That's because he's still in the mix.
08:10So I take you to the Browns fans.
08:12Who do you want as their starting quarterback?
08:14And, Alec, in your face, 68% of Browns fans want Dylan Gabriel.
08:20What?
08:21I'm just kidding.
08:21It's 14%.
08:23He is last on the list of candidates, followed by Kyler Murray, who's not even on that team.
08:30He's ahead at 18%.
08:33Deshaun Watson, 22%.
08:35And then Shador Sanders is at 26%.
08:38So, yes, Alec, not only do they not want Dylan Gabriel, given all of the other options that are available
08:46right in front of them,
08:48they most certainly put Dylan Gabriel last on the list.
08:52Oh, you love to hear it.
08:53I'd take Steve DeBerg off the couch before I'd take him.
08:56Wow.
08:57Yeah.
08:57By the way, speaking of Kyler Murray, do you know Kyler Murray will continue a fairly disturbing trend of No.
09:041 picks who do not make it or stick with the team they were drafted by until they're 30?
09:10This continues a run.
09:11I think you have to go all the way back to Matthew Stafford as the last quarterback who was drafted
09:15overall No. 1 and was still with his team by the age of 30.
09:20Yeah, my brain, like I was kind of, Drew Brees was around that time, but maybe a little before.
09:25And he was not a No. 1 pick.
09:26Yeah, but he went to, oh, that's right, yeah.
09:29Wow.
09:30So No. 1 overall picks are just awful, huh?
09:32I mean, that's got to make you a little nervous.
09:35Joe Burrow's still with this team, right?
09:36That's true.
09:37And he should, hopefully, be able to break.
09:41He's going to break the streak?
09:42I do, because he's got to be like 28, 29.
09:47So I think he will break the trend, or maybe he's busy dating Jessica Alba.
09:52I don't know what those rumors are.
09:54But also, that's got to make you nervous if you're the Raiders, right?
09:58Yeah, I don't know if that's true, but there's, supposedly there's a photo of them together,
10:02and any time two attractive people are together, they're like, they must be dating.
10:06Why not?
10:07I mean, I guess.
10:09I didn't know.
10:09Is she married?
10:10I don't think.
10:11I think she got a divorce.
10:13Really?
10:13She has kids, but I think she got a divorce.
10:17What's she up to?
10:17I don't know.
10:18Maybe dating Joe Burrow.
10:20You're saying we have a shot.
10:21I...
10:22What?
10:22All the guys out there.
10:23You're married.
10:25Would you throw your marriage away for Jessica Alba?
10:27She's worth like a billion dollars.
10:29That's a lot of money.
10:30I know.
10:30Do I have to get a prenup?
10:32I do not know what that's in reference to.
10:35I'm just trying to figure out, if I don't, how much I can walk away with after a few years.
10:41Mm-hmm.
10:42Now, this is a name...
10:44The answer's no, Kevin.
10:45Okay.
10:46I love my wife.
10:48Alec, if you could never see your dad again, but you marry Jessica Alba with no prenup, is
10:57that a deal?
10:59Every day and twice on Sunday, yeah.
11:01Wow!
11:02Because he knows I would send him any of my claimings thereafter, and he would go live
11:08on some remote Hawaiian island or something.
11:10Okay.
11:11Yeah.
11:11A billion dollars is a lot.
11:13It is.
11:13It really is.
11:14She can make more?
11:15She can.
11:16Odafe Owe is a name that I wanted to...
11:20Okay, tell me.
11:21What do you got?
11:21The Falcons are signing Nick Folk to a two-year deal, Kevin.
11:25I know you wanted more Nick Folk news, so I just wanted you to...
11:27What do you know?
11:28What are they?
11:29Really?
11:29He's 41 years old.
11:31Jeez.
11:32That's got to be a front-loaded deal, right?
11:34The fact that he won a game for Tony Romo and Buffalo a long time ago, and it's still
11:40kicking, is fascinating to me.
11:43Okay.
11:43Back to you, Kevin.
11:44So, people are worried that Fernando Mendoza might be screwed.
11:48We'll see if Joe Burrow is as well, or if Trevor Lawrence will reach that.
11:54We've got some opportunities.
11:56But I wanted to bring up Owe is because people are looking for potentially cheaper alternatives.
12:03Yeah, for sure.
12:03This is a name that we brought up a while ago, assuming that Jalen Phillips, at $30 million
12:09per year, jacks up the rate for Trey Hendrickson, and then you go in a different direction.
12:14What would you think of Owe as another pass rusher?
12:18This is a dude.
12:19He had 10 sacks in Baltimore last year, in 2024.
12:24And then this year, he wasn't very good with Baltimore to start the season.
12:28But then he was good with the Chargers.
12:31He had zero sacks with Baltimore to start the season, and then finished the year with
12:35seven and a half.
12:36He's the kind of guy that I think kind of fits that mold on the edge with Rashawn Gary, that
12:42he can do a little bit of both.
12:44He's got a little more pass rush to him, but I would like to add a piece like that to
12:50this
12:50team for sure.
12:51Obviously, the price is going to be the biggest factor here, but I think you, Kevin, gave
12:56me a number that whenever we were going through this that I felt very comfortable with, and
13:01I don't feel like that number's changed that much since then.
13:04And look, here's the thing about some of these contracts that you're going to see today.
13:07If you get really aggressive with the way you structure it, you can get a first-year cap
13:12hit that is maybe about 55% of that number.
13:17So it depends on number of years and things like that, but if Trey Hendrickson signed a
13:25three-year $100 million deal with the Cowboys, you might be like, oh my goodness, that's
13:31so much money, 33 and a third, give or take.
13:34I could probably get you that cap hit to about $18 million for this year.
13:39And that's the way I want you to think about it when you see some of these deals.
13:42Because if I told you Trey Hendrickson one year, $18 million, wouldn't you be like,
13:46well, hell yeah, let's go do that.
13:48And so it's the guaranteed money, it's the number of years, and that allows me to kind
13:53of work around with that number.
13:55And that's one of the reasons we made it to today, and I hate that George Pickens is still
13:59sitting there theoretically on the franchise tag, because if you would have gotten the long-term
14:03deal done with him, you could have automatically opened up another $10 to $11 million.
14:08And that's my biggest disappointment for the day, that you didn't have as much possible
14:12money at your fingertips that you could have.
14:16You are only working with the cap.
14:18Correct.
14:19You are not working with the extra revenue that the Cowboys make.
14:23That is true, because I don't get to fiddle with that, but you're right.
14:27And I know that none of us care about that.
14:29True.
14:30I'm just going to lay this scenario out, though, for you.
14:33Kevin, over the next month and a half after the draft, is a dead period.
14:40Right.
14:41Unless the Cowboys have a contract situation.
14:44And then content is available for everybody.
14:47So that's what I see happening, and again, that keeps the Cowboys forefront, that keeps
14:52the revenue coming in.
14:53So yes, you're right.
14:55It's very valuable to us with the cap.
14:58Yeah.
14:59But it's more valuable to be a story.
15:03Look, while also, again, building your defense at the same time.
15:07If you can do both, Kevin, if you can do both right now, build the defense without having
15:11signed George Pickens, then the Cowboys are like, then why not do that?
15:16Yeah, no, you're right.
15:17I just...
15:18I'm not trying to say I'm right or that it is right.
15:20That's what I feel is happening.
15:22I would go back...
15:22I'm going to be seen in time again with them.
15:24You're right.
15:24And I would go back to them every time, and I'd be like, can you imagine if your team
15:28won?
15:29Mm-hmm.
15:29Like, what a happening.
15:31Nothing in the NFL would exist.
15:33I feel bad if the Cowboys ever make it to the Super Bowl, what team they're playing
15:37against.
15:38Because nobody's going to care.
15:40They're only going to tie...
15:41Oh, my goodness gracious.
15:42Especially if Jerry is still alive.
15:44Oh, my goodness gracious.
15:45This is amazing.
15:46The Cowboys in the Super Bowl, blah, blah, blah.
15:48By the way, if you're a big fan of passive-aggressive tweets, Reese Hall...
15:53Reese Hall just dropped one.
15:55Tweeted out, damn, we sure got a lot of money in Florham Park, all these contracts dudes
16:01signing, and so essentially the base of the Jets, while he got the franchise tag, that is
16:08interesting.
16:09Their defense was atrocious last year.
16:11Aaron Glenn, the head coach, calling defensive plays, coming in again saying, I'm going to
16:16call defensive plays.
16:17I got to fix this defense.
16:19We need to spend money on that side of the ball.
16:21And that was an embarrassment for Aaron Glenn, who's a defensive-minded coach, to go into
16:26a season and look that bad defensively.
16:29So that's...
16:30I know Reese Hall's looking at it going, hold on.
16:32How can I go ahead and get my gold nugget out of this thing?
16:36But they have to fix that defense.
16:38Yeah, do you remember when we said today's not the day to feel like you got a bargain?
16:42Right.
16:42Greg Allman, who covers the NFL for Fox, said he's hearing that some multiple teams have
16:51offered Mike Evans north of $27 million per year.
16:55So we talked about Alex Pierce getting $29 million, $28 million, $29 million, Mike Evans
17:01maybe getting above $27 million.
17:02I do feel like it's a good day to be George Pickens' representation.
17:06Yeah, for sure.
17:07Absolutely it is.
17:08I do feel like it's a good day to be George Pickens.
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