00:00They won one game when you were gone.
00:02I can't believe that.
00:02I had to like double take that on the plane.
00:04I was like, oh my, oh my gosh.
00:07They won what the Sunday game against St. Louis.
00:09Yeah.
00:09Yeah.
00:10The Sunday game against the Cardinals.
00:11That was it.
00:12So they are 20 and 30 and they were 19 and 22.
00:15And I left a game and a half back of first place.
00:18Now eight and a half.
00:20Unreal.
00:21You've got a week.
00:22One week.
00:23I was just mesmerized by that.
00:26Cause you know, all this sort of stuff and everything that went on.
00:30And yesterday I think they had a wonderful interview from Eric Hosmer.
00:34He was great yesterday.
00:35Shouted out our girl, Emily Penning on that interview as well.
00:39And then the Fesco and also Fesco and Dusty.
00:42You can hear all the time, Monday through Friday from 6 a.m. to 10 a.m.
00:46But he had something to say about CAGS.
00:47You said you wanted to bookmark and get back to you.
00:49Here's his reasoning about CAGS.
00:52So for me, you got to give these guys the opportunity.
00:54And I think there's more to the platooning stuff.
00:57You know, there's these sinkers, cutters, lefties, and righties.
01:00For me personally, a right-handed sinker was my bread and butter, right?
01:04Ball moving away from me.
01:05So if a lefty is throwing a cutter, that ball is doing the same action,
01:08moving away from me.
01:09I love it.
01:10I need to face that lefty.
01:11If a lefty is throwing a sinker running into me, I have no chance.
01:15He's going to tie me up.
01:16I'm trying to get the ball in the air.
01:17I can't get extension.
01:19So if that's a righty and he's throwing a cutter and that's that same movement
01:22into me, what's the difference of me facing that righty versus that lefty sinker?
01:27So I think not only the platooning with the left-right thing is just a little too,
01:31it's too much.
01:32I don't think the details inside it really tell the full story.
01:35So some of those lefties with cutters, with a guy like CAGS that can go the other way,
01:39I feel like it's those lefties that get you back to that swing you're searching for
01:42if you're ever in a tough spot.
01:44But you really need those at-bats.
01:45And again, Jack Caglione, a guy like him, he's in scoring position when he stands in
01:49that box.
01:50So it's hard to really give him half the at-bats throughout the course of the season,
01:54in my opinion.
01:55Cags would go two for four last night against the lefty and go opposite field with an
01:59effortless hit that went over the third baseman's head.
02:01But he goes two for four last night facing left-handed pitch.
02:03Yeah.
02:03And we've been told because they created some scenario in their minds, because that's what
02:08it is.
02:09It's mythical.
02:09The fact that Jack Caglione can't hit left-handed pitchers is like a unicorn.
02:16It is a mythical, mythical, made-up stat, fact, whatever you want to say.
02:21There is zero proof by the Royals that he cannot hit left-handed pitchers.
02:26You have told him that he can't hit left-handed pitchers because he only had 380 at-bats in
02:32the minor leagues.
02:33That's not enough to figure out if somebody can or can't do something in baseball.
02:37You need at least 1,000 at-bats, they always say, before you can really figure out what's
02:42going on.
02:43So he didn't have the minor league at-bats to show me he couldn't hit lefties.
02:47And you haven't given him that opportunity at the big league level to not be able to
02:51hit lefties.
02:51So you, as leaders of this organization, have been telling one of these guys who's part
02:56of your future that they're a part-time player and they can't hit lefties, and you
03:00don't even have factual evidence to back that up with.
03:03That's the sad part about all of this.
03:05This is a team that is allegedly using analytics to dictate their lineup, but they have no
03:10factual or statistical proof that Jack Caglione can't hit lefties.
03:14And what they do have is such a limited sample size, it would make any major leaguer roll
03:19their eyes.
03:20And so what Eric Hosmer said there is brilliant.
03:23He came up to the big league level, played every day, turned into a really good baseball
03:27player, a world champion, a hero here in Kansas City, and they allowed him to go out there
03:31and learn.
03:32And they allowed him to go out there and swing against lefties.
03:35Imagine, imagine if they platooned Eric Hosmer, they platooned Mike Moustakas.
03:39This team never would have won a world championship.
03:41They never would have won in 2015 if they took that approach, because it's a bad approach to
03:46take.
03:47The approach that the Royals have right now stinks.
03:50It's a bad form of baseball.
03:53And that's why this organization right now isn't destined to win anything.
03:57They're not letting their guys go out there and play and get better.
03:59And Eric Hosmer said he had so much success against righties because he was able to have
04:04success and learn how to hit against lefties.
04:06And so it all ties together.
04:08And they're not allowing that out of Jack Caglione.
04:11Maybe they'll start now.
04:12They've got nothing left to play for.
04:14Let this kid go out there and mature at the big league level.
04:17So when next season comes along, we're not in the same spot begging for you to let a guy
04:23hit lefties when you've never done it before.
04:25But you've told him he can't do something.
04:27Imagine that.
04:27Imagine if I was a parent and I told my kid they're not good enough to do something their
04:31entire life.
04:32That would be a terrible way to raise a child.
04:34That's what the Royals are doing to Jack Caglione.
04:37The thing that sticks out to me is one of two.
04:43So J.J.
04:44Weatherholt.
04:45Right.
04:46Pretty good baseball player for the St. Louis Cardinals.
04:48He was drafted the next pick after Caglione.
04:50This year alone, and again, I'm not going off plate appearances.
04:53I'm going off at bats because I don't think walks are really that relevant in this stack
04:57because I think everybody's kind of in the same window.
04:59I don't think Jack has a ton of walks.
05:02But J.J.
05:03Weatherholt's this year, first year, made his debut this year, has 180 at bats.
05:08Connor Griffin, right?
05:1019-year-old, now 20.
05:11Yeah.
05:11Made his debut about a month ago.
05:14Well, beginning of April.
05:15Yeah.
05:15Okay.
05:15So 158 at bats.
05:17Because Jack Caglione, it's his second year in the league.
05:20He has 146.
05:22That sucks.
05:24So.
05:25It's unacceptable.
05:26It really is.
05:26I mean, truthfully unacceptable.
05:28That's a great pull right there, Dusty.
05:30Appreciate you.
05:31I mean, that's a great pull.
05:32I mean, Jack has 12 walks.
05:34So if you want to add the walks to his at bats, he has 158.
05:38J.J.
05:38Weatherholt's 180.
05:40Connor Griffin, 158.
05:41So he'd have the same amount of plate appearances, plus I know Connor Griffin's got
05:45walks, but per at bats.
05:46So walks, whatever, you know, whatever, at bats.
05:49Walks are relevant, but 158 this year from Connor Griffin, who made his debut on April.
05:56Let's see.
05:56It's got it right here on April 3rd.
05:59Yeah.
06:00And he has the same amount of at bats as a second-year pro in Jack Caglione this year.
06:05This year.
06:05J.J.
06:05Weatherholt, who has drafted seventh overall in the 2024 draft.
06:10By the way, right after Cag's has 180 this year, and your superstar has 146.
06:17Right.
06:17And you're not allowing him to play because you told him he can't do something.
06:21You've never let him go out there and fail to see if he can or can't do something.
06:24What if Jack Caglione turns into one of the greatest left-handed hitters on planet Earth,
06:28and he's doing it in another uniform because, again, you underdeveloped another player in
06:33your organization?
06:34I just see this situation being very similar to the situation that we had last year with
06:39Noah Cameron.
06:40He was a rookie coming into the league.
06:42I understand the first four to five starts, like, let him get his feet wet, let him get
06:47into it, and then start seeing where he goes.
06:49We see this happen with starters in the regular season that have been in the league for eight,
06:53nine years, like, the first few starts, they're not going to go over 85 pitches.
06:57They're not going to ruin and gas out their arm immediately, right?
07:00And we saw last year that they kept taking Q as the one because he's in charge of the
07:06bullpen.
07:07That's his job.
07:07I'm not getting in trouble for saying that.
07:09He would take Noah Cameron out almost.
07:11It seemed almost that if once he got to 85, he was done.
07:14But it was past, like, starts four, five, and six.
07:17And then it was like, well, we just haven't seen him get into the sixth inning or later,
07:20so we don't really know that.
07:21But how do you know if you don't know?
07:22And now it's like, you drafted a guy sixth overall.
07:26So let's say the Chiefs are in this situation.
07:28How much sense would this make, right?
07:30They drafted Mansoor Delane, sixth overall.
07:33Right, same, yeah.
07:34Okay, Spaggs goes, well, he really plays good at home, but on away games, he's not going
07:37to play.
07:37That's right.
07:38What?
07:40How do we know that?
07:41Right.
07:41We've got to figure it out.
07:42We don't know that.
07:42You drafted this guy to be a franchise changer, and he needs to play every day.
07:47You need him to get some scars.
07:49When you learned how to ride a bike, Mac, did you get right on, hit the hill, didn't
07:53fall, didn't scrape your knee, your elbow, nothing.
07:55Didn't get your shin blasted by the pedal.
07:58Oh, the pedal hitting the shin sucks.
07:59Your gene didn't get caught in the grease of the bike chain.
08:03Yeah.
08:03You had to learn to keep your genes away because you know how you learned?
08:07You got your genes caught in the bike chain.
08:08You made mistakes, and you learn.
08:10It's with anything in life.
08:11So I just would like to see and understand, I get it, lineups change due to everyday pitching.
08:18I get that's part of the game, but superstars change when they don't get consistency, and
08:23it can affect the emotions in the locker.
08:25Imagine hitting that tank shot that Cags hit, and then the next day, it's like, take the day,
08:30bud.
08:30Yeah, have a day.
08:31Yet you keep a guy who for two and a half months isn't hitting above the Mendoza line
08:37at third.
08:38That, to me, is where the issue lies, because what is the message?
08:42We talked about Rasheed Rice earlier about, hey, he keeps getting in trouble.
08:45What's the message?
08:45What's the message?
08:46Well, the message is, he's paying for it in a way that is the way he's paying for it.
08:51Guy hits a home run.
08:53Guy goes two for four.
08:54Doesn't hit the next day because it's a powerful lefty.
08:56But the guy who is a lefty, who isn't hitting his damn weight, doesn't see any sort of anything.
09:01Now, I know that Vinny got the day yesterday.
09:03They moved him down the lineup before that, and there's an off day today.
09:06That everybody on that roster needs.
09:08And I think that's totally fine.
09:10But again, like, what is the message?
09:12And I think that's where the confusion gets.
09:14And that's where you're starting to see the guys bobble balls in the outfield, make blundering
09:17mistakes.
09:18Michael Garcia the other night, I didn't hustle my ass out of the box.
09:21That's on me.
09:21Props for him for saying that.
09:22I thought Q's response to that was great.
09:24But again, like, why is that happening?
09:25Right.
09:26Because there's some sort of, I don't know.
09:28Well, because everybody comes to work every day, and they don't know what the expectation
09:31level is for them.
09:32And that's where it is right now.
09:33You have 26 people going into the office every single day, and they don't know what
09:38the expectation is.
09:39And they don't even really know what their duty for that day is going to be.
09:43Imagine going to work every day and not knowing what you're going to do.
09:46And then, you know, the boss finally tells you an hour into your day, OK, we need you
09:50to do this.
09:51And then it's something different the next day.
09:52And then you're off the next day.
09:53You never develop any rhythm.
09:55I tweeted about Nick Lofton last night making those plays at second base.
09:58I go, man, he's having a tough night or whatever it was.
10:00You know why he's having a tough night?
10:01Because he plays every third day.
10:02He's not getting the repetitions out there every single day to become better, to learn
10:08how to play the game, to not make those mistakes, to keep the rust off.
10:12These guys are rusty.
10:14They're playing and they're sitting.
10:15They're playing and they're sitting.
10:16And then your analogy with Vinny is unbelievable because it is a mixed message, Dusty.
10:21And that's ultimately why this isn't going to work at Kauffman Stadium with this regime
10:25in place is because they've got these mixed messages that they're sending.
10:29They're telling, again, they're telling a young kid, you can't hit lefties.
10:34Meanwhile, they got a guy who legitimately can't hit lefties or righties.
10:37And they just finally moved him out of that third spot in the order.
10:41That is a completely different message that you're sending.
10:45And I'll be honest with you.
10:47You say, well, Vinny's done it before.
10:48Yes, he has.
10:49He's still a young guy.
10:51And sometimes you need those mental breaks.
10:54They've handled Vinny Pasquantino this season terribly.
10:57They've sent mixed messages to everybody.
11:00So nobody knows what to do.
11:02I can't blame these players right now for being rusty or not getting the job done
11:06because every day it's something different with this organization.
11:10And baseball players of all athletes crave consistency more than any of them.
11:16And I don't know what the direction of this organization is right now
11:20and what their philosophy is.
11:21Because what I'm looking at right now is BBL stinky.
11:24I guess I could wrap this up real quick with this because my question is,
11:29if you trust in Vinny to get out of the funk,
11:32why don't you have that same trust and belief in Jack to be able to become what he can be?
11:36Another great point.
11:37Again, the Royals comes from Royals Review.
11:39Buddies of mine on X, the Royals have had 16 series this year.
11:43They've won four, tied two, and lost 10.
11:45They've been swept four times.
11:47They are tied for the fourth worst record in baseball.
11:49Let the future shine.
11:51And one more thing.
11:52They have to win 10 straight games now to get back to even.
11:55They cannot get back to 500 until at minimum June 1st.
12:01Crazy.
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