00:00I wonder how much they actually can learn in these OTAs.
00:03You know, if not, no one's expecting Myles Garrett to be there.
00:07You're still not playing in full pads,
00:10but yet someone may emerge a little bit farther ahead in the quarterback battle.
00:14And that's what she wrote about today, too, in the playing dinner at Cleveland.com.
00:19So, Jeff, I'm just curious, your thoughts.
00:21What do you think we'll learn at all from these OTAs?
00:24And should they be important in trying to determine who your quarterback is?
00:28Yeah, absolutely.
00:29Every time Todd Munkin sees his quarterbacks, it needs to –
00:32I mean, there's something he has to register.
00:34So, absolutely.
00:36I think he's going to use every opportunity to watch these guys
00:39and figure out what he can do with them and who fits where.
00:43So, I think they're critical, especially for a first-year head coach.
00:49If he weren't a first-year head coach here and head coached these guys for several years,
00:53he wouldn't need to do that.
00:54He'd already know.
00:55And we'd already have a starting quarterback.
00:57But they don't.
00:58And so, as soon as Todd gets some feelings in his head, he'll probably name one.
01:06And I would really expect it to be before training camp starts, Andy.
01:09I would bet it ends that he names one after the OTAs that begin the mandatories on June 9th.
01:18I would agree with you.
01:19I would think, huh?
01:20I just – I feel like everything's leaning towards Deshaun Watson, though.
01:24Just in what I'm reading, when I'm hearing, when I'm –
01:26I mean –
01:26And I don't blame Munkin if it is.
01:29Nobody knows yet, though.
01:30There's people out there kind of leaning towards they think they do know what's going to happen.
01:33Well, people are allowed to look at, you know, one – as Mary Kay laid out, one of the OTAs.
01:39Just – let's quit speculating and let Todd Munkin do his job.
01:45And he'll decide.
01:48Dan, what do you think?
01:50Am I wrong?
01:51Am I getting a wrong pulse on this?
01:53I don't think anybody knows anything at this point.
01:55I still feel like most people think Watson's the leader in the – after, I don't know, three holes.
02:01I don't think anybody knows anything.
02:02Like, we're all just speculating, guessing, and, you know, staking claims,
02:06knowing that everyone will forget that we staked said claims two weeks later.
02:09Probably true.
02:10It's okay to do that, by the way.
02:12But I just – and I'm not putting any –
02:17any lockdown stock into anything that's happening right now.
02:22Munkin will let us know.
02:25And whoever it is, fine, Andy.
02:27I mean, it's his gig.
02:29He's got it for this year.
02:32Maybe not even that long.
02:33You know how things go in the NFL.
02:35Yeah.
02:35So he's not going to pick the guy that gives him the best chance to lose games.
02:40You would hope not.
02:42Well, if he does, he's not going to be here for very long.
02:44Unless the message is it doesn't matter if we win or not.
02:47Well, then why would you pick one anyway?
02:49Well, you've got to pick a quarterback.
02:50Somebody's got to play quarterback.
02:51No, I mean, why would you pick a guy?
02:55Oh, this is the guy that's not going to help us win games.
02:58Don't give me any draft stuff either.
03:00I don't think that's it.
03:01At this point, Munkin's been around a long time.
03:05He doesn't have the luxury of a rebuilding year.
03:10He doesn't have the luxury of growing with the guy who's the younger quarterback
03:14just because he's younger.
03:16If he's younger and better, that's a different story.
03:19And it might be the case.
03:21So could the goal change throughout the season where you're going to pull the ripcord
03:25maybe a couple weeks into the year?
03:26Not for Todd Munkin.
03:29What if the directive is, A, halfway through the season,
03:31this isn't working with these quarterbacks.
03:33We're probably going to get a decent draft pick.
03:35We might be able to find our quarterback in the future in the next draft.
03:38Pull the ripcord.
03:39I don't care if we win or not.
03:40Start playing other guys.
03:43Good luck with that.
03:44And keeping your job?
03:46Good luck with that.
03:48Dan, is that an unrealistic scenario to throw out there?
03:52Oh, God, no.
03:53It's the Browns.
03:54Yeah.
03:55Good luck with that.
03:56And we live in a world where we reward losing.
03:58So, yes, absolutely that's on the table.
04:01The ripcord theory.
04:03Yeah.
04:03100% on the table.
04:05We watch it every year.
04:07Ooh, that hamstring.
04:09Good luck with that.
04:09That hamstring's bugging you.
04:10Wide receiver X, who's one of the 10 best wide receivers in football.
04:13Take a month.
04:14You take a month on that.
04:17I just kind of feel like we're walking into this thing with Watson.
04:20We'll see what happens if Sanders can push him out.
04:22Gabriel is, I thought Mary Kay put it best in her account,
04:26and she said developmental.
04:28That's where they see him.
04:29Can I, Kevin Stefanski couldn't survive three wins followed by five wins,
04:36but Andrew Barry could.
04:39Why, I still don't know.
04:41Again, I would have kept them both, but if you weren't going to keep them both,
04:45I would have moved on from both.
04:47You think Andrew Barry can survive three wins, five wins, six wins?
04:51I don't.
04:52I don't care how much people like his draft on paper.
04:55I still think.
04:56Drafts on paper that don't lead to wins get guys fired.
05:00So, again, to me, the directive here completely is,
05:06let's go win some football games.
05:08Because otherwise, you might have a new general manager in this thing.
05:12And I don't say that.
05:13I think Andrew did a nice job in last year's draft, and I love this year's draft.
05:18But if those guys don't go win football games, how long are you going to go,
05:22hey, great job in that draft.
05:24Great.
05:25Didn't result in any wins, but great job in that draft.
05:29And you're not going to do that three years in a row, I don't think.
05:33I don't know.
05:34I look at this.
05:35I think Andrew is here because the Deshaun Watson thing was,
05:39while it may have been on his watch, I don't think it was his order.
05:43So why'd Kevin take the hit?
05:45I don't know.
05:46I think maybe because it's easier to find a head coach
05:47than it is to find a general manager.
05:49I don't know.
05:50You can find him anywhere.
05:51Well, that's your opinion.
05:52I just don't know.
05:53Tom Telesco is sitting there looking for a job.
05:54Hey, my apartment at John Carroll is still around.
05:57I can move right in.
05:59It's going to be cheap.
06:00All right.
06:00Well, if that's what you want.
06:01I just don't know.
06:02And I also think that maybe Andrew may have taken a bullet for ownership there
06:07with the Watson thing if the directive came from ownership to go out
06:12and get Watson and you know who's truly responsible for it,
06:17then why would you turn away from him?
06:18And then knowing that he had a pretty good draft last year
06:22where all of the guys that he drafted found a way to start
06:25and contributed and were able to play,
06:28and then you're hoping that you got another draft like that again this year
06:31and maybe by the third year now of building,
06:34now all of a sudden you really got something going,
06:35except they need to find a quarterback.
06:37I just don't think – I got to believe that Munkin's in it for two years
06:42if you don't believe that the quarterback is here right now.
06:45And if you do, then you should have success and there wouldn't even be a worry
06:49about who your head coach is going to be moving forward.
06:53I know it's a quick league.
06:55I just think if there's one thing the Hazems have learned since they got here,
06:59it's kind of to be a little more patient than they were when they first got here.
07:08Would you agree with that?
07:09That they're a little more – I mean, Hugh Jackson was here forever, baby.
07:13He wasn't just here.
07:14He was here forever.
07:16That's what it felt like.
07:18And then maybe by the time they had turned this thing around,
07:21they were like, yeah, we'll see you later, Hugh.
07:22I don't know.
07:23Maybe it's just easier to fire a coach than it is to fire a general manager.
07:26I know what you're saying about Tom Telesco.
07:28I understand that.
07:30But there's a part of me that believes Barry is still here
07:32because they thought Barry was doing the right job.
07:35I still don't know what DePodesta's job was.
07:37A lot of people want to say, well, the drafts are better
07:40because DePodesta may not have had his hands in his deep two drafts ago
07:44and he had nothing to do with this year's draft, allegedly.
07:48Although others have said that the plans and policies that he put in place
07:57were left and were guidelines for this draft.
08:01Yeah.
08:02I mean, we learned all about the color coding on all the players.
08:06And if you were an orange dot, man, and they were able to get you,
08:09life was good.
08:10Always wanted to be an orange dot.
08:11I think they felt like they got four orange dots in the draft.
08:14So.
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