00:00Well, you are going to like what you hear, but you are not going to like who tells you this.
00:05If I was in the decision-making chair of who should be my starter,
00:09when we start in OTAs and we go to our first mandatory minicamp,
00:13I'm starting Shadir Sanders.
00:16And the reason is a lot of people will talk about his stats and,
00:20hey, he threw more interceptions and touchdowns, and his EPA this and his EPA that,
00:23and this was bad.
00:25What they did with him at quarterback was they won games.
00:29And that, to me, is one of the most important things for the quarterback position.
00:33When you step into the huddle, when you step on the field,
00:36do you believe that you have a chance to win with the guy that is in the huddle with you
00:41at quarterback?
00:42And the Cleveland Browns locker room believes they can win with Shadir Sanders.
00:47They don't believe they can win with Deshaun Watson.
00:50They don't believe that they can win with Dylan Gabriel.
00:53And that, to me, says this should be the guy, and it's his job to lose at that point.
00:58I know they're paying Deshaun Watson a boatload of money.
01:02But at the end of the day, he has not looked like the guy that they got from the Houston
01:06Texans
01:06for a number of reasons.
01:08And when you're talking about a young man who's dealt with the pressure,
01:12who had all the odds stacked against him last year, no reps basically in the preseason,
01:16didn't get any first-team reps before he became a starter.
01:20Before the week he became a starter, he wasn't even throwing to guys like Jerry Judy.
01:24So, I think Shadir Sanders should be that starter.
01:27He has the mental makeup, the confidence to get it done.
01:34Outstanding message.
01:36That audio is from Yahoo Sports Daily.
01:39Great message.
01:40Do you know who the messenger is?
01:42Who that was?
01:43Yeah.
01:44The RG3?
01:46Well, I didn't know you knew that, but okay, fine.
01:49Yeah, it's Robert Griffin III.
01:50Sounded just like him.
01:51I think he has a pretty distinct voice.
01:53Played quarterback here.
01:55He did.
01:55And he got really mad at me when I asked him about some things in his career.
02:00I loved it.
02:01I loved it, and I wish you asked him again.
02:04I think you like that message.
02:05I just don't think a lot of fans like the messenger because they think of Robert Griffin III
02:08playing quarterback poorly for us at the time.
02:11But let me point this out.
02:14Just because you played quarterback for the Browns, you weren't that great.
02:16It doesn't mean you can't talk Browns football for crying out loud.
02:19I mean, we've had Brady Quinn on before, and Brady's a great guest.
02:22We've had Brian Hoyer on before, and Brian played quarterback pretty damn well for the
02:25Cleveland Browns.
02:26Just obviously we had drafted somebody else at the time, and Brian's obviously a great
02:30guest talking about it.
02:31I think what he says is something that a lot of Browns fans hope, and I wanted to play
02:36it because there's so many damn people out there who are from the national perspective
02:40saying, Shador ain't going to win this job, including Ian Rappaport on Rich Eisen's show.
02:45So my guess is Deshaun Watson.
02:48But that's money talks, right?
02:49No, because the money's paid already.
02:51That's different.
02:52You didn't, I mean, you did have to pay him years ago to get him, but that money's paid.
02:55Right.
02:56Here's why.
02:57Here's my argument.
02:58When he's been healthy, he's been for sure good enough to be a starter.
03:02And there are games when, like, when he broke his shoulder, was that two years ago?
03:06Two years ago, right?
03:07When he broke his shoulder.
03:08Yeah.
03:08He led the team back from a comeback, like, on a comeback and was like, all right, like, this
03:12guy's really starting to play well.
03:14Then he got hurt again.
03:14Then he got hurt again.
03:15So I don't know, you know, are these freak things?
03:17Who knows?
03:18But if healthy, I think he gives them the best chance to win.
03:22Now, it'll be a competition, but that's what I think.
03:23But money does talk.
03:24I mean, if you've paid him all this and you got him for at least another year, you might
03:30as well get something for your money.
03:32I mean, absolutely no disrespect to Rich Eisen when I say this.
03:35And I know they usually say that before you're about to say something disrespectful.
03:38That's not the case.
03:39He's just the latest in line to say this.
03:42Lima, you know the Browns.
03:43You know the Browns and the Haslams well.
03:45I know the Browns and the Haslams well.
03:48A lot of fans know the Browns and the Haslams or they know the Browns and the Haslams well.
03:52They think maybe they don't, but they do.
03:54Because in so many ways, you're a lot like them.
03:58Where money is not the object here.
04:01Anybody who's been in that organization, who has worked for that organization, has been
04:05around that organization.
04:07They will tell you if they think it's going to help, they'll spend the money.
04:12They do not care about spending money.
04:14If this were Mike Brown and we were in Cincinnati on 1530 talking Bengals, yep, if Mike Brown
04:21would have traded for Deshaun Watson, you are going to get, he will have Deshaun Watson
04:25parking cars for $46 million.
04:28He will do everything he can to get an honest day's work out of Deshaun Watson.
04:32It's Mike Brown we're talking about here.
04:34When it was the late great Al Davis, Al Davis might have done that.
04:37And Al Davis was a guy who would spend some money, but damn it, he didn't.
04:40The Browns, they will spend anything.
04:43I don't think it's, the money is not the issue here.
04:47You spent the money, it's exactly as Rappaport says.
04:50The money's already spent.
04:51This is where I'm nervous about it because it would be easy to just go, well, he's getting
04:56paid $46 million.
04:57He should be the quarterback of the Cleveland Browns.
04:59That's the easy out to all this.
05:02It is not that easy.
05:04Because it would be easy for me to just throw up my hands and go, well, you're paying him
05:07all that money.
05:08He's going to end up playing for you.
05:09No, no.
05:10It's more about what Robert Griffin III said.
05:14Because I can't guarantee what Robert Griffin III said is real.
05:17I saw the Jerry Judy post just like everybody else did.
05:20I've seen the other guys maybe working out with Deshaun.
05:23There is a relationship there with some of the guys there.
05:26They're going to go with whoever they think helps them win football games.
05:28Now, I think they're going to look at Shador Sanders and go, you were in the locker room
05:31with us.
05:32This guy was nowhere to be found over the last calendar year, for crying out loud.
05:36And you're allowed to come around the organization all you want.
05:38If you're a good standing member of the organization, which last year he was, he was just injured.
05:44You're allowed to be there all you want.
05:45You didn't show up until the end of the year.
05:47Shador was there from the beginning.
05:48So I hope, yes, I want Shador Sanders to win the job.
05:51I hope that carries over.
05:52But money's not going to be the issue here.
05:54If Shador Sanders is a little bit better and Shador Sanders happens to make $45 million
06:01less than Deshaun Watson this year, they're going to play Shador Sanders.
06:04They'll want, or excuse me, ownership will want to play Shador Sanders.
06:07But do you buy what RG3 said, that the locker room is behind Shador?
06:11That I'm not sure of.
06:12I hope he's got sources.
06:14I hope he's right about that.
06:15I can't guarantee that.
06:16Shador did not play remotely well enough to get, like, locker room support.
06:21His last two games, they won.
06:23He was awful.
06:23Jerry Judy's known as a bit of a malcontent, obviously.
06:25When I see that post on social media of them working out, I go,
06:28I think Jerry Judy's sending a message.
06:30I really do.
06:31And it bothers me.
06:32And hopefully I'm just being a little bit too paranoid.
06:34Maybe I'm just being a little bit too paranoid for everybody.
06:37This time of year tends to throw you off.
06:38We've got a lot of Cavs.
06:39We've got some Guardians, obviously.
06:41And all we can do is speculate about this team that's getting ready to make
06:44major draft picks in just over a week.
06:46But when you look at this job, you know, I keep hearing money, money, money,
06:49money, money, money, money, money, money for Deshaun Watson.
06:51That's not it.
06:52That's too easy.
06:53It would be too easy to just hand him over the job because of the money.
06:57And in a lot of organizations, that would be the reason he gets the crack at it.
07:01That is not the reason he gets the crack at it here.
07:03They don't care.
07:05They do not care about the money.
07:07As Ian Rappaport so succinctly put it, the money is already spent.
07:12They do not care about that.
07:13What they care about is thinking that they can find the best version of whatever
07:19quarterback that they can find out of Deshaun Watson or Shador Sanders.
07:23So that means it's even scarier for everybody because now you look at it and go,
07:26which one's the better quarterback?
07:28Because they will tell you straight up.
07:29They're not going to play this guy just because of the money that they own.
07:32That's too convenient of an excuse for anybody else.
07:36They will play Deshaun Watson to start quarterback this year if they feel he's a better QB.
07:42And they know how much the fans don't want to see that guy play.
07:45But they're going to give Todd Munkin a crack at doing this the right way.
07:50And Todd Munkin's job is what?
07:52Not to answer to me.
07:53Not to answer to Tone.
07:55Not to answer to any fan out there.
07:56He's got to answer to the other 52 on the roster.
07:59So with the voluntary workouts have started and then the OTAs get going on
08:03and all the other stuff, we're going to find out very quickly.
08:05It's going to be merit-based.
08:06It's not going to be based on money.
08:08They do not operate like that.
08:11This is a team that once paid $16 million for a second-round draft pick
08:15and kicked the guy to the curb for the quote-unquote greater good of the franchise.
08:18They could have had that guy play.
08:20They could have had that guy play.
08:21He probably would have played better than what they ran out there that season.
08:24$16 million.
08:25Bye-bye.
08:25Because they felt that they were doing something for the greater good.
08:28Money is not an object, which makes it dangerous in some ways.
08:31But you're going to get an honest look at this.
08:33And if Deshaun Watson ends up coming out on top,
08:36I guess I'm going to have to trust Todd Munkin as much as it's going to bother me.
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