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00:00Good morning.
00:05You prepare for this day to come and then it hits you and you don't really know what to do.
00:10And here we are. Hi.
00:14So, uh...
00:16Was I right or was I right?
00:18Am I right?
00:19The text I got after they hired Todd Munkin.
00:23I said, did I not tell you Kevin Stefanski was Shador's best friend?
00:28I'll get killed for that statement.
00:30But you know it was true because if Kevin was still here, I'd just be like,
00:33you know, Shador's going to start and that's the way it goes.
00:35You got a new head coach.
00:36He's a first-time head coach.
00:38He's 60 years old.
00:39He ain't got time to wait on anything.
00:41He ain't got time to make any of us feel comfortable or anything like that.
00:45He's going to do what's best for the football team.
00:46And now we're asking owners at the league meeting about it.
00:49And don't call it a comeback.
00:50Here we go.
00:51Hi, how are you?
00:52What do you feel about all this?
00:54What do you feel about Mary Kay's tweet?
00:56I'm excited that the Cavs and the Guardians won last night.
00:59I am too.
01:00As are our fans.
01:01I am too.
01:01Listening around Northeast Ohio.
01:02And I'll have more on the Dodgers.
01:04I would like to start out on a positive note that your dour attitude.
01:07You know what?
01:08Apparently, Ken wants to just crap all over our Cleveland teams that are playing right
01:12now in favor of, you know, hearing Deshaun Watson news, which I'm sure our fans are just
01:16loving.
01:17First thing, it's 6.05 a.m.
01:18You know what?
01:19Go right on ahead.
01:20Regale all of us with what you saw in both those games.
01:24It'll make us feel better.
01:25First of all, I'm a Cavs fan.
01:26I went to bed early during the Guardians game.
01:30Oh, you did.
01:30But the Cavs game, I was locked in until the final buzzer as they embarked on their first
01:37of two back-to-back games.
01:39They play the Lakers tonight, in which I am advocating them sit everybody and not try to
01:43win because they are perilously close to catching the Knicks.
01:48And I think that would be ridiculous for the organization to sign off on that.
01:53I do not think it would make any sense at all to play either Boston or New York in the
01:59second round.
01:59If you can avoid that, I would do that at all costs.
02:01So ultimately, I think it was very good to see the entire team chip in to try to get Evan
02:07Mobley involved so he feels as confident as I'll get out.
02:11Folks, he's shooting over 60% since the All-Star break.
02:13So say what you want about Evan Mobley and his lack of a leap this year.
02:19I think you are seeing a better Evan Mobley by the day.
02:23And so I think that would excite Cleveland sports fans as opposed to talking about Sean
02:28Watson.
02:28Okay.
02:28Starting quarterback.
02:29Let's continue to do it.
02:31Let's continue to do it.
02:32Ladies and gentlemen.
02:32There you go.
02:33Parker Mess.
02:34Kenny, you said if the weather was going to be warm, the starting pitchers would come around.
02:40And I think that's exactly what we saw yesterday at Chavez Ravine.
02:43You know, last week it was amazing.
02:45I compared Chase DeLotter to you-know-who.
02:47You would call that a swing and a miss, but I've turned it into a home run, haven't I?
02:51Yes, you have.
02:52With all my predictions and all the other things.
02:54Parker Messick in a lot warmer weather at Chavez Ravine.
02:57Ends up going six strong.
02:59Outstanding performance.
03:00Could he be the next great one?
03:02Are you saying that you predicted that pitchers will be better in warmer weather?
03:06Yes, I did.
03:07Wow.
03:08Hell of a prediction.
03:09Hell of a prediction it was.
03:11That was his take.
03:11Hey, you know what?
03:12No one else said it on the radio before me, so I'm going to go ahead and claim it.
03:16I think everyone said that every year for the amount of baseball since 1887.
03:21It's a little victory is the one I like to stack up.
03:24Just like the game of baseball.
03:26It's a day-by-day thing.
03:26Last night they were picking each other up.
03:28Remember, it was-
03:30Game within the game.
03:31We were sitting here wondering when Stephen Kwan was going to show up.
03:34What did he do yesterday?
03:35Three for five last night.
03:35Three for five while DeLotter went hitless.
03:37So, you know, it's just one guy goes down, the other guy goes up.
03:41I like the small ball at the bottom of the order with Martinez last night.
03:46It was something to see to get their first runs across.
03:50I know you were paying very close attention.
03:51Four hits at the bottom of the order.
03:53Who saw that coming?
03:54Not very many people.
03:55Not very many people at all.
03:56And against the Dodgers of all teams.
03:58I would guess anyone in Northeast Ohio didn't see that coming.
04:01No, they didn't.
04:02Or they didn't see it happen.
04:03Because it was another 10-10 start to start the year.
04:05Every game against the Dodgers should count for two.
04:07Every win should count for two.
04:08I'd sign off on that.
04:09And Owen and I were talking, even if they came, Owen said, even if they came back three
04:12and four, you'd take that as a win.
04:14If they go four and three on this road trip, I mean, that's, we're playing, I don't know
04:19what music we're allowed to play anymore, but we're getting excited over something.
04:22And now that you got your A's going up against Otani, enjoy your three and four road trip.
04:28Still not bad.
04:30Still not to start the year.
04:31I would have liked four and three more.
04:33Wait a second.
04:33I'm calling tonight the biggest game of the season so far.
04:37They've had so far five games.
04:39This is game number six.
04:40You got a real set on you.
04:41This is clearly the biggest game.
04:43It's the one that's going to be the most watched of all of all these starting games
04:48because Otani is going to be going.
04:50Nice.
04:50Again, if you can, if you can wake up or get a nap in at some point during the day.
04:55Then you can watch the game tonight.
04:57They had 52,000 at the stadium.
04:59Continue.
05:00Continue.
05:01Continue guardians and cast.
05:03So I will go.
05:05I figured you as far as you want to go.
05:07And then we'll go do the other thing we have to do.
05:10You'd be excited to do anything, but talk to Sean Watson today.
05:13I am.
05:14I am.
05:14But you called me out saying that I'm Mr. Negative and I'm not, I'm just not going to stand
05:19for that.
05:19So please, please, King Positive, go right on ahead and talk to everybody about our two
05:25teams that won last night and not the other one that embroils itself in turmoil at every
05:30turn.
05:30This is refreshing.
05:31I beg you, please continue.
05:33I was just surprised.
05:33I did not think that Ken Carman would think the fans wanted to hear Deshaun Watson's name
05:38at 604 when the show started today.
05:40That's the problem.
05:42They don't.
05:42But it's something that's forced upon us at all times because it's something that's just
05:47it's not going to go away.
05:50Every time we go out there, we think we're getting parole and we're right back in Brown's
05:54prison, brother.
05:56Right back in our cell.
05:57You get back in that cell.
05:59You ain't getting out of there.
06:00Are the Browns privy to, has there been a lot of Deshaun Watson behind the scenes that
06:08we have not seen?
06:10Because they're all about social media with Shador, but I've seen no social media.
06:14It has to be all behind the scenes.
06:16It is so true.
06:16Because there has been nothing in front of the scene.
06:18It is so true.
06:20What is the guy refused to rehab here, refused to even be with the team when he was going
06:26with his injury.
06:26He made those videos.
06:28Yes.
06:29I saw him.
06:31They didn't put him out.
06:32The last time I did.
06:34The last time I think they ever recognized him on social media was happy birthday to Sean.
06:39Period.
06:40You are right.
06:42Like we're talking about yesterday was Andrew Barry's birthday and they called him the
06:45fearless leader.
06:45They called him the fearless leader.
06:47That's right.
06:48Hold on.
06:48He must be fearless.
06:49If he's willing to start Deshaun Watson week one, everybody in that stadium, everybody
06:55that is, I got to say, that's a lack of fear that works.
07:01You can't deny that if he has the stones to bring that guy who the owner said, we've moved
07:08on from, and they tore, I think Haslam was up there tearing his signs off.
07:13He was on the cherry picker.
07:15The stadium.
07:15He was on the cherry picker.
07:17Get this thing down.
07:17We, that's how, that's how upset he was.
07:20You know, he went to his wedding, looking over the shoreway going, Oh, look over here.
07:23You guys keep on driving.
07:24We'll get something else up here soon.
07:26He sure sounded upset yesterday in his comments.
07:29Well, I can only go by what Mary Kay tweeted.
07:31And then I deleted, obviously my, my window here.
07:33Cause I, we were starting the show and I didn't want to be caught looking at social media while
07:36I was trying to talk to you.
07:37See, this is a professional thing we're trying to do, but no, I like what you did.
07:41It, I tried Kenny.
07:42I know.
07:43Well, here we are.
07:44I did my, here we are.
07:45Here we are.
07:47We should do that.
07:48We should do.
07:49I, I, I swear to you.
07:50Can I just say, cause it's six of the morning.
07:52Can we just kick around segments where we're going?
07:54Hey, if you call in and say what you want to say about the guardians and calves, we will
08:00avoid the Browns in this segment might do it at eight o'clock.
08:04If you want us to so damn bad, you call in and you tell us what you want to say
08:09about
08:09it.
08:10We will entertain guardians and calves and try to not talk about the Browns.
08:15Cause this is the time of year you catch a lot of hell.
08:17And I go, guys, my hands are tied.
08:20I got a team that's getting ready for the post season, but they started key on Ellis last
08:24night, trying to arrest some people, trying to, you know, see what they have.
08:29I don't know if they really planned on winning that game, but they, they won the game.
08:33They shot 18% from three.
08:35They still find, they played old nineties basketball and whipped the ball to the block, which is
08:39something I appreciate.
08:40I'm glad they won.
08:41I got Parker Messick who might be to me, the next great one in a, in a line of guardian
08:45starters
08:46that he might be, he might be your ace, but I don't want to just to fix expectations
08:50then.
08:51But when you talk about a guy who getting paid another $46 million, no one wants to play him.
08:56And now the owner saying, well, you know, maybe, maybe bygones are bygones.
08:59We're going to let this guy play, you know, and plus I, again, I can't help it.
09:04Cause I kind of warned everybody.
09:06Did I not?
09:06The text I got the day after they hired, excuse me, the night they hired Todd, the day they
09:11hired Todd, he really likes to Sean that this was a good thing for, for Watson.
09:16I don't think they hired him because he likes to Sean, but I think he's a guy who really
09:20likes to Sean and nobody wanted to hear that.
09:23No, he'll, he'll take your door and he'll take your door here and there.
09:26And he'll do the, okay.
09:28I hope you're right.
09:30I don't want to start Sean.
09:31I don't want him to start the season.
09:36Seems like they're building that runway.
09:37Aren't they?
09:38Well, Watson, Watson must, must be really good.
09:41Cause I don't even remember him getting him getting monkey at any kind of a birthday gift
09:45or this is anything.
09:47He didn't know he came empty.
09:49He came up to the party empty.
09:50His gift tone is wins.
09:53That's what he's going to give them.
09:55This is, this is the truth of the matter.
09:57If you're going to do this fine, you got to be one way or the other.
10:01You cannot be like some people took my nine win versus seven win thing different.
10:05Like to say, I'd rather just lose with the Sean.
10:08No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's not the case.
10:12Just in the middle of the road, in the middle of the road with Shador, we can have an argument
10:17young quarterback.
10:18We can have ourselves a conversation about this guy middle of the road with the Sean is
10:22just more muddy water.
10:23That's all it is.
10:24So you got to do one of two things.
10:26You are, if you're going to start to Sean Watson, you better be a playoff team.
10:30Okay.
10:32Cause there's a way out of this that isn't going to be popular that I say, and it's going
10:36to sound nuts, but let's just leave it where it is right now.
10:38Now you got to be a playoff team or you got to be, you got to be just complete garbage.
10:43You have to be complete garbage where now we are in the real business of Arch Manning,
10:47Dante Moore, Julian saying Jordan, my, uh, a CJ car.
10:50I've already committed them to memory for the 2027 draft.
10:54So that's what you have to be.
10:56Uh, and, and it's just another reminder of a lost era of Browns football where you gave
11:05up everything thinking you were going to be able to deal with all the other distractions
11:09and everything else.
11:11And the play was going to dictate itself and the play never came to fruition.
11:15He's been afraid of his own shadow out there on the football field for a plethora of a
11:20million different reasons that I'm sure you guys are all correct on in some, in some fashion.
11:24And he's been injured and it's been bad.
11:26And if you want to go ahead and play him fine, you go ahead and play him, but you got
11:30to be
11:30either really, really, really, really, really, really good.
11:32Or you got to be really, really, really, really, really bad.
11:35One of the two, I can't, I can't be grinding it out with seven, eight wins and having that
11:40conversation.
11:40Cause that's what that's going to do.
11:42Cause then you'll start to flirt with, well, do we try to extend him?
11:44And everybody knows that he doesn't want to be here.
11:46So then I would look at it and go, okay, you, you have to reach a certain threshold for
11:49me to even entertain it.
11:50Cause I would just use Andrew Barry's words against him.
11:53You said quarterbacks are, are a, uh, our currency.
11:56That's what you said.
11:57If you think quarterbacks are currency, then fine.
11:59If I get to a, even if I got to a wild card round, I still don't trust him as
12:03far as I
12:03can throw him because it's been five years of empty promises.
12:07So even if he got to a wild card round, I would consider trading the guy and let's start
12:11a new, we finally got something out of it.
12:13We can get out from underneath this fine.
12:15We got one decent year ever since 2020 that he wasn't even on our football team for.
12:20So let's cut our losses, move on into the great wide open.
12:23Ain't going to happen that way, but that's how I would see it.
12:26So there you go.
12:28There are, is it okay though?
12:29Is it, do people just care about wins?
12:31Maybe that's it.
12:32Maybe they just care about wins because that's what it is.
12:34But you got to think that Deshaun Watson is going to get you wins to just care about
12:38wins.
12:38I really don't.
12:40Well, there's nobody in the fan base that is truly expecting him to turn his entire
12:44career around now.
12:45I don't think, I mean, even.
12:46So then what's the conversation?
12:48Was I not one of his biggest proponents?
12:50You were.
12:50Of, of bringing him in.
12:51And here you are.
12:52You're quiet.
12:52You want to talk guardians and calves.
12:54I've been out on them for three years.
12:56So who's left?
12:57Who's left on the Deshaun Watson bandwagon at this point?
13:01I'd love to hear from you.
13:022-1-6-4-7-4-0-92.
13:05Winning is a big thing, guys.
13:06If you think that he can get us to the playoffs, that is no small feat.
13:11If you really think he can get us to the playoffs, I'd like to hear why.
13:15All right, Nat, we're just shouting into the wind and wasting time.
13:17That's all there is to it.
13:19I'm either growing or I'm dying with this football team.
13:22And I know some of you guys, well, the cults, Ken's the leader of the cult.
13:26No, I'm not.
13:26I just want to see something I have some interest in for the future of my franchise.
13:30He is not a part of the future of the franchise.
13:34So that's what we're left with.
13:38Still a better conversation than Kyler Murray?
13:41Tua Tungvalu, still better?
13:42No?
13:43Yes?
13:44I think we could have worked our way up to some excitement levels because it's new.
13:51Mary Kay Cabot, in her tweet,
13:58Browns owner Jimmy Haslam believes it's possible for Deshaun Watson to go from a, quote,
14:01swing and a miss to a home run if he starts this year.
14:07Quote, we share a fan's frustration.
14:09We're 1,000% committed to getting this right.
14:11What we've done the last few years is unacceptable.
14:15Got everybody thinking that he could end up starting this year for the Cleveland Browns.
14:20Now, I told you before, Todd Munkin,
14:22I got the text right after they hired him, likes Deshaun Watson.
14:25Okay?
14:26Didn't want to be the bearer of bad news.
14:27Got yelled at for it because I was the bearer of bad news.
14:31There's a lot there where I tried to say, and I know that Kevin was public enemy number one.
14:36He was just go with the flow type of guy.
14:38When he got a new head coach in there that's 60 years old, things could go different.
14:42I got a lot of different conspiracies that are already going on on social media.
14:46And I just kind of want to know, do you think that the juice is worth the squeeze anymore?
14:50Because you can, can you win many games with Deshaun Watson?
14:55I mean, you got to be a, to me, you got to be a playoff team.
14:57And even if you're a playoff team, I'd be sitting there going, what can I get for him?
15:00What can I get for him to end this?
15:02Because I don't, I still don't trust the future.
15:03I cannot see a scenario other than winning a Super Bowl this year where I would ever trust Deshaun Watson
15:09ever again.
15:10I mean, if he looked, if it was November and he looked like 2019, but who sees that happening?
15:16Like, there's no chance.
15:16No, no, again, if he was, we'd be doing Super Bowl, Super Browns.
15:21You'd be going nuts.
15:21So you got to admit, you got to admit Ken Carman doing those shows in November.
15:27No, but I'm saying if he was running around making plays and just carving up defenses,
15:32which he did, you know, through the first four or five years of his career, if he was doing that,
15:37but it can't just be average quarterback play where great defense is, you know,
15:42helping him win the games where you'd be ready to like offer him a new contract.
15:46Well, thank you.
15:46Cause I hope Shador takes this as a sincere challenge.
15:49Cause it's going to be, it's going to be tough when they go to OTAs.
15:52Cause this guy is going to throw against air.
15:54And this is another warning I gave you.
15:55When, when Todd Munkin said that they were going to decide who was going to be the starting quarterback
16:00and OTAs going into training camp, I'm going, boy, this doesn't set up.
16:03Well, one guy's the king of working out.
16:06It's Deshaun Watson.
16:07I mean, you've all seen it on Instagram.
16:09He's a physical pro he has a physical prowess to him.
16:12He is going to be throwing against air.
16:14He's going to be throwing in drills.
16:16They're not wearing shoulder pads and, and, and, and full hitting and all the other things.
16:20So he's going to look good.
16:21Like that's an advantage to Deshaun Watson, the OTAs, a guy who's played at a high level
16:26in the NFL before where you can kind of maybe hide some of the bugaboos there.
16:30Yeah.
16:31That's going to be an advantage towards Deshaun Watson.
16:33Again, don't go after the messenger guys.
16:35I guess if his shoulder was fine, fine, finally, because it was just, it was not good.
16:42The last time he was in training camp, he was throwing ground balls.
16:44Remember Zach Jackson would come on here and be like, I do not understand this hype machine
16:47for Deshaun.
16:49He's not accurate.
16:49He's, he's throwing balls literally into the turf.
16:52It's been three years since the shoulder.
16:55It's been two years since the Achilles.
16:58I apparently they think they could put Humpty Dumpty back together again.
17:02Fine, fine.
17:03But he either better be really, really good or really, really horrific because it ain't
17:07helping you just to get to the middle.
17:08By the way, Humpty Dumpty was all about his body, right?
17:12Yeah.
17:13This, this was also.
17:14Humpty Dumpty was just an egg, but.
17:16This was also mentally.
17:18He was an egg.
17:18He couldn't lose the weight.
17:19How do you put that back together?
17:21How in the world do they, do they put that confident dude?
17:25I don't know.
17:26That was a great team leader.
17:28And oh, by the way, it was great in the community in his early years in Houston.
17:31And he was hooking up the offensive line and all these stories.
17:35I remember ESPN, not a week would go by where they wouldn't do a, this is, this is the next.
17:39Paying for the.
17:40This guy's doing everything by the book.
17:42The cafeteria staff.
17:44And when they had the hurricanes and everything like that, I believe.
17:47What was it?
17:48The great story they had on ESPN.
17:49I mean, there was a lot of great things.
17:50They were talking about what a great philanthropist he was.
17:53And just a.
17:54Unbelievable.
17:54Not just a team leader, a civic leader.
17:57What happened to that dude?
17:58I ain't gonna get that back.
17:59How, how, because Todd Munkin's a good.
18:01I don't have a question that Todd Munkin is a pretty good football coach and organized.
18:05Now, I don't know how great of a head coach he's gonna be.
18:06I've only seen him be a head coach at Southern Miss.
18:08But he's an organized guy.
18:11But I say the same thing to a lot of people who are lining up with their conspiracy theories.
18:14I go, guys, he's not a wizard.
18:16So he can only take him as far as Deshaun Watson is mentally going to allow him to take him.
18:20So you're gonna have to make this offense sing for Deshaun Watson.
18:23If you're gonna do this, you gotta do it the whole way.
18:26There's no, don't do it one foot in, one foot out.
18:30If, if guys, I know it.
18:31If they, if they start Deshaun Watson, I'm gonna be over here yelling like a wild man and you're
18:36getting all upset and all that other stuff.
18:38You can't care about that.
18:39It's either all, we're doing a cannonball on the deep end and he's the starter.
18:43Or we are starting to Shador Sanders and we're getting ready for whatever may come.
18:48But I think both ends up getting you ready for the 2027 season if we're gonna do it this
18:52way.
18:52So we could sit here and grind it out all we want to and yell at each other and block
18:56each other on social media.
18:57But I still think it's gonna end up with the same result.
18:59I would obviously, as you can hear in my voice, I'd much rather start Shador Sanders just to
19:04kick the tires and see what we have on him.
19:06I'd rather not have Deshaun Watson play for us again because I don't think we're ever getting
19:09gold out of them there, Hills.
19:10I think the mine is empty.
19:12Daryl Ryder, now Daryl is even, Daryl's loud and vociferous and he's angry and he wanted
19:18you to hear this yesterday about this possibility.
19:21I could tell you exactly how this is gonna go.
19:23And the reason why is because Deshaun Watson hasn't looked like an NFL quarterback since
19:27the 2020 season.
19:28He chose to sit out 2021, got himself suspended for 11 games in 2022 after signing his contract
19:35with the Browns, broke his shoulder, ruptured his Achilles twice, missed an entire year
19:40last year.
19:41In what universe am I supposed to sit in this chair and tell Flans, yeah, you should be excited
19:46about Deshaun Watson starting for your football team this fall because he's gonna be back
19:51to what he was with the Houston Texans even though we're six years removed from this guy
19:56looking like anything resembling an NFL quarterback.
20:00And we're almost another 700 days from the last time he's actually taken the field, which
20:03is the second time we've had to go through him being almost 700 days away and removed
20:08from taking the field.
20:09And we're less than 365 days away from the announcement that the Browns have terminated
20:14Deshaun Watson's contract and he will be a post-June 1st designation.
20:18The off-ramp is staring you in the face.
20:21Take it.
20:23Daryl's mad.
20:24I heard that live.
20:25Listen, listen to the...
20:26Daryl was upset.
20:27Now look, these are the hosts.
20:29Sometimes they're representative of the fans, but listen to the way Ken started the show
20:33today and listen to Daryl.
20:35Whoa!
20:35And the visceral anger right now.
20:38I'm not angry.
20:38I'm not angry.
20:39You didn't sound thrilled when you started the show today.
20:42Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
20:42I'm not...
20:42How can I be angry about something about...
20:44You'll make me angry.
20:45How can I be angry about something I was texted about the day they hired him?
20:47Do we...
20:48How can I be angry about something...
20:49Do I play the start of the show?
20:50I wasn't angry.
20:52Over for the people.
20:52I wasn't angry.
20:53You seemed...
20:54No, I wasn't angry.
20:56You've seen me angry.
20:57I'm getting angry right now because you're accusing me of being angry.
21:00That wasn't angry.
21:01That was me being resigned to wasting more time because Deshaun Watson, to me, is a total
21:07waste of time.
21:08Shador, he might end up being a waste of time, but I don't want to say he's a full waste
21:12of time just yet.
21:12Hell, Dylan Gabriel's pretty close to a waste of time.
21:15Fine.
21:16A rookie quarterback would not be a waste of time.
21:17Deshaun Watson, all he has ever done in this generation is bring back bad memories for
21:23Browns fans and also of what could have been for Browns fans had we had not made these crazy
21:29decisions back in 2021.
21:31Really, going into 2022.
21:33Because you and I go back to October of 2021 when that all started.
21:36Like, that's how long it's been.
21:37But fine.
21:38Fine.
21:39I can't help it.
21:40I can't make Shador the starter.
21:42I can't stick my head in the sand.
21:44It's going to be on Shador.
21:45At the end of all this, it's going to be on him.
21:47I can sit here and pout and moan and be in my feelings all I want and have Lima accuse
21:52me of being angry.
21:53At the end of all this, guys, Todd Munkin's going to pick whoever he thinks is the best
21:56for his football team.
21:57And fair enough.
21:58Fair enough.
21:58It's his job.
21:59He gets one crack at it.
22:00I'm not going to turn him into the villain for picking who he thinks is going to be the
22:04best quarterback for his football team.
22:05But I'm going to be very, very, very cynical about the possibilities of him being a good
22:12quarterback again for this team.
22:14And the NFL in general.
22:15Is there a chance they're floating this out there to gauge reaction to see if they can
22:20even do it?
22:21If they can even really start him?
22:22They can do it.
22:23Why can't they do it?
22:24I mean, listen to the fans talk about Deshaun Watson.
22:28I thought it was odd, especially when you brought it up, that the Browns are posting Shador
22:32Sanders to and fro all the live long day.
22:35He changed his number yesterday, by the way.
22:37You're ready to go buy a number two jersey.
22:38It's all Shador all the time.
22:40And then the guy who they might start, where is he at?
22:46If you just followed him on social media, you wouldn't have known he was on the team
22:49in three years.
22:50No, you wouldn't.
22:52Just saying.
22:54But hey, all you have, all you risk is losing more games.
23:00But all you have to do is start, I will trust Todd Munkin, a guy who's a lifelong football
23:06guy.
23:06I'm not going to make him out to be a villain.
23:09Now, at the end of the season, if he goes out there and does what I think he's going
23:13to do, which is probably going to be more of the same of what we've seen, where there
23:16will be fits and starts and problems and questions on the offense and miscommunication
23:21and all that other stuff.
23:23Fine.
23:23I will be upset that we didn't really get to kick the tires on Shador, but you know
23:27what?
23:28So what?
23:28Who cares?
23:29We'll end up going on to the next quarterback anyway.
23:32We'll talk about Dante Moore by the time October rolls around this year.
23:35We'll talk about Arch Manning by the time October rolls around this year or all the other quarterbacks
23:39that now I have fixed already in my head about who could be possibilities going into 2027.
23:44That's where we'll be.
23:46That's where we'll be.
23:47Because if it comes down to an actual open competition, the veteran might win it.
23:52So I can sit here and yell all I want.
23:54It's going to be on Shador to go out there and take the job.
23:56And honestly, as viscerally angry as I sound, according to the lineman, I'm not angry.
24:01How can I be angry?
24:03It's probably for the best.
24:04I can stop my feet all I want.
24:05Do you or do you not want your head coach to pick the very best player for your football
24:09team to start at that position?
24:11I think in 99% of cases you would.
24:14This might be the 1%.
24:15This is the one where I think a lot of fans would be like, no.
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