00:00With us is Natalina Orlandi because we invited Natalina Orlandi who you all know is Manuela Orlandi's sister
00:06why did the Orlandi family ask the Vatican for everything they have on your sister, if there is any documentation
00:13important
00:14and how much else was there an answer, well, not official though
00:19Unofficial, yes
00:19I was saying the case is closed and your mother found out and wanted to write
00:25She was a little upset
00:26But in fact I wanted to preface this
00:30Anyone who listens to this letter imagines that it is any family of a missing person who turns to the institutions
00:37But let's say, your mother was upset and wrote this letter
00:40Yes, he wrote this letter
00:42Which represents all the family members though
00:44Family members, yes
00:45Do you want to read it to us?
00:47Well
00:50Your Excellency, after reading your statements
00:52I want to share with you the pain that beats in the heart of an elderly mother.
00:59I reside in the Vatican
01:00I was still drinking coffee with my lawyer
01:03When the news agencies went wild
01:06With his harsh words
01:09For us the case is closed
01:12Not even an hour has passed since my family formally addressed the Secretary of State
01:20The request to see the file concerning Emanuela
01:23And the case was already closed
01:25I have been waiting for 34 long years to know what happened to my daughter.
01:31And his response came after just a handful of minutes
01:37My little girl, case closed, doesn't even deserve a few hours of thoughtful reflection
01:45And even less an answer
01:48I remind you, Your Excellency, that missing persons cases are closed in only two ways.
01:55Or with the discovery alive of those who have disappeared
01:58Or with the confirmation of his death
02:01Tell me then, Your Excellency, how did my daughter's case end?
02:06Because, if the case is closed for her, then she certainly knows what happened to Emanuela.
02:12Tell me where my daughter is, Your Excellency.
02:16If she knows she's alive
02:18Tell me where you are now
02:20Because I want to go and hug her right away
02:23I've been waiting too long for this moment
02:27If instead she knows that Emanuela is no longer there
02:30So, Your Excellency, tell me where his remains are.
02:34Tell me where I can find my little girl's grave
02:38I am his mother
02:40I gave birth to her
02:42I raised her
02:44I watched her grow up
02:46And then disappear even before she became a woman
02:50Tell me, Your Excellency, where is Emanuela buried?
02:55I want to bring her a flower
02:56Every day I would like to cover it with flowers
03:00But if he has no answers to give me
03:03Well, Your Excellency, the case is not closed at all.
03:07It's still open
03:08So, is your hasty response diplomatic?
03:14Instead his conscience, the clothes he wears
03:17And the role it plays
03:19You should force her to help me find Emanuela
03:23She should be forced to comfort a grieving mother.
03:27To dry her tears
03:29And to strive to fill the immense void
03:33What Emanuela left in this family
03:36That afternoon 34 years ago
03:39When she left for music school
03:43And she never came back
03:44Emanuela Orlandi is not a closed case
03:48She's my daughter
03:50And I will seek her as long as the Lord keeps me alive.
03:54It's a letter that is a bit symbolic of the Penelope Association
03:57It could be, right?
03:58Yes, definitely.
03:59And it represents all families
04:02Natalina there was an answer
04:03Yes
04:04To Monsignor Beccio, Your Excellency indeed
04:06And Monsignor Beccio
04:08Who said he was sorry?
04:09Yes, there is an answer to Ansa
04:13We read from the Ansa press releases
04:15He said he was sorry
04:17That he is available
04:19That this secret dossier does not exist
04:21But we are not talking about a secret dossier
04:23We want to have the documentation
04:25Which the Vatican could certainly have
04:27Because some things have arrived that we know have given to the Italian institutions
04:33Magistrates
04:34But I assume they made a copy
04:36Because everything is born
04:39Then this beautiful letter was published by Corriere della Sera
04:43It all started from this request
04:44Made by the family's lawyer
04:46Laura Sgro
04:47And a request to have everything
04:50Everything the Vatican has to offer about Manuel Orlandi
04:52So we want to give you an example.
04:54We did it last time
04:56And there was a...
04:58Emblematic
04:58Yes, this character who telephones the Vatican
05:01With a code
05:02It was said the American
05:03It was never known who he was
05:04And this recording reached us
05:07That the lawyer Sgro asked us
05:10And of course we delivered it to her.
05:12There is the first part of the phone call
05:14The first part is this
05:16What do you want?
05:18Who wants?
05:19Summon in Casalori
05:20Summarization of Cardinoli
05:211.58 did he say?
05:231.58
05:24Yes, I'll wait a moment
05:26No
05:27How much is it?
05:28Huh?
05:28Is it as fast as possible?
05:30Yes, yes, yes, I'll come right over.
05:43Yes
05:44On Eminence there is the code number
05:50Yes
05:51The part of the recording that reaches us
05:53This is the only thing that has been said about those who have seen it.
05:54It's clear that there is another part
05:56I remind our viewers of the 1.58
05:58It's the code
05:59There is that person who says
06:01I know a lot about Emanuele Orlandi
06:02I want to speak directly with the Vatican
06:04They give this code number
06:05Because then there can be a direct line
06:08So in short
06:09What we ask ourselves
06:09Is there another part of the call?
06:12We don't know
06:13We don't know
06:14But you, after all
06:15Somehow
06:16You asked
06:16An answer let's say
06:18There hasn't been an official announcement yet.
06:19On the Vatican's side
06:21No, because I assume that
06:21Having a written request
06:23There will also be a written response
06:24This statement
06:25Let's say there was
06:26A statement then taken
06:28A conference
06:29Yes
06:30One moment
06:30From DNA Cronos
06:31But in which it was said
06:33For us the case is closed
06:34And Emanuela's mother
06:35Of course he said
06:36For us the case is not closed
06:38Adonina thank you
06:39Thanks to you
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