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00:00Fazzina.
00:43The most vivid memory I have is the smell of blood.
00:49On the evening of January 29, 1991, Sandra Casagrande was killed with 22 stab wounds.
00:58A brutal murder that will be remembered as the pastry chef's crime.
01:09We are at the beginning of the 90s, in Roncade, a small town in the Treviso area, a stone's throw from Venice and the
01:16golden beaches of Jesolo.
01:18The Due Turri pastry shop in Via Roma 93 is known not only for its desserts, but above all for its
01:26its owner, a beautiful and independent 44-year-old widow.
01:30Sandra was a cheerful, sunny, and a little naive woman.
01:36She was beautiful, she had a powerful breast, she was intelligent.
01:41It was a string stammer, it was the one you passed by, you looked at it and you saw a woman.
01:51He treated you like a little man, if you know what I mean.
01:55This also gave more, gave even more to us.
02:02Sandra is beautiful, sensual, and has many suitors.
02:20But that's not all. She's a woman who married very young.
02:24She didn't have children, but she always wanted to be a mother.
02:28Since she had no children, she loved children; in short, when she saw them, her face lit up.
02:35They loved her, because every time they passed by the store, she would come out and give them candy.
02:48Sandra married Luciano when she was just 18 years old.
02:52He has a young love of his. The two share everything, even their work.
02:58Luciano Vio is deeply in love with his Sandra. She is beautiful and much desired.
03:04He was a jealous type, in the sense that he was very much in love with her.
03:10The children don't arrive and the relationship between Sandra and Luciano deteriorates.
03:15She is a strong and determined woman.
03:17And when she realizes she no longer loves her husband, she decides to leave him.
03:22But a few days before the separation, Luciano dies.
03:28Luciano was found drowned in the Sile River, between Casale and Roncade.
03:36Here where we are right now.
03:37Where we are right now, this is the place.
03:39Sandra Casagrande's husband, Luciano Vio, was found drowned in the Sile River, not far from Roncade.
03:46It was 1980. The investigation established that it was suicide.
03:54After her husband's death, Sandra takes over the pastry shop.
03:58He gets up at dawn and, if necessary, stays up late at night.
04:01A life that hasn't been easy, but one that has never made her lose her joy for living.
04:08Sandra's life was that of pastry making, making pastries and going to sleep,
04:15receiving whoever was supposed to receive, in short.
04:17That was Sandra's life.
04:21He wasn't out until five in the morning, every night, eating, drinking, having fun, changing
04:29man.
04:30Yes, it wasn't a rosy mouth.
04:32They called her rose mouth, she put love, she put love.
04:36They called her rose mouth, she put love above all else.
04:40The beautiful pastry chef, Sandra Casagrande, is not the character in De André's song.
04:46Yes, it's not a rosy mouth.
04:49Sandra, however, is an emancipated and independent woman.
04:52And perhaps that's why she's not well-liked, especially by the women of Roncade.
04:59Also because Sandra has been in a relationship with Tony for two years.
05:03And Tony is a married man.
05:05Sacred love and profane love.
05:09She was very much in love.
05:11That is, she wasn't a woman who went with this, with that, with that.
05:15When she had a man, that's what she had.
05:18Sandra loves beautiful things, she likes to dress well and she adores jewelry.
05:22Tony, her lover, tries to fulfill all her desires.
05:29Because Tony gave her really beautiful jewelry, even complete sets, like a necklace, maybe with a ring, that's what it was.
05:37He was very much in love with her.
05:39But I think so, exactly.
05:41Tony does everything to make Sandra happy.
05:45He feels her as his woman and doesn't bother hiding their relationship at all.
05:50In the small town, everyone knows everything.
05:54They grumble, but pretend nothing is happening.
05:57Is it possible that only Tony's wife is in the dark and doesn't suspect anything?
06:02Or maybe she's just pretending and knows perfectly well that when her husband leaves the house, he goes to his lover's house.
06:08which is just a few steps away from where they live.
06:12Tony sees Sandra often, he even goes to visit her during the day.
06:16In the evening he reaches her home through the back garden.
06:21Apparently they have a good relationship, but there is a but.
06:25He's jealous, he always gives her only yellow roses.
06:29It seems like yellow is jealousy for you?
06:32Yes.
06:32I told Sandra what this means.
06:36And what did she answer you?
06:37He likes it that way.
06:38He was jealous of her sometimes, that's all.
06:43But for the obsessions, maybe because he wore a skirt that he didn't like,
06:49instead of a pleated skirt or a sheer blouse, well, for these things.
06:54he is very jealous.
06:56So Tony is very jealous of Sandra.
06:58And he's annoyed at the mere thought of all those men hanging around her in the pastry shop.
07:05There were regular customers who were local, I suppose, maybe even from some nearby town, I don't know.
07:14There was one guy I nicknamed the parrot because he always sat on those very high bar chairs.
07:20And I always seemed to see a parrot on the perch, to tell the truth.
07:27There was a bit of a humorous side to it and we laughed about it, yes.
07:30Sandra jokes with her friends, uses irony to keep men at bay,
07:35because in the Catholic province its independence is considered brazen and dangerous.
07:42She was someone who gave you confidence and above all the man a little, let's say, disappointed by his wife or somewhere.
07:53When a beautiful, pleasant woman like she was, made you squirt or gave you a pat on the shoulder or
08:01he was pissing your glass, but yes, here, drink another one, etc.
08:06The man goes more than willingly, especially in those times.
08:11Arroncade, Sandra Casagrande, is tempting for many, but not everyone can have her.
08:17For some, the desire for the beautiful and charming pastry chef is becoming a real obsession.
08:26We arrive at January 22nd, it's Sandra's birthday.
08:30Someone gives her a beautiful bouquet of yellow roses that day, but there is no card.
08:37and everyone in town thinks it was her Tony who sent them to her, but she has doubts.
08:47And I said to him, look at those beautiful roses, Tony sent you, right?
08:51And she replied to me, how do you know Tony sends her, right?
08:55And I say, but how? You're not sure he's sending them to you, are you?
09:00And she never answered again.
09:02Who gave Sandra that bouquet of yellow roses?
09:05If it wasn't her Tony, then who was it?
09:08Another man? A woman?
09:11In the language of flowers, the color yellow has a precise meaning: it means jealousy.
09:16What if the choice of those yellow roses wasn't accidental?
09:21What if it was a warning or a premonitory sign of what was about to happen?
09:30It is January 29, 1991. It is Tuesday evening.
09:35It's cold and the arcades of Via Roma seem deserted.
09:40It's 8:40 pm. The last customer leaves the pastry shop.
09:46Sandra's workday is over.
09:50To get home she just has to go up a flight of stairs,
09:53because she lives above his place, house and shop.
10:01Sandra lights the stove and prepares the tub for a hot bath.
10:11In the bedroom the dedication stands out on the mirror
10:14I love you so much, signed T, like Tony, her lover.
10:22The television is on and in the kitchen the coffee maker is ready to be used.
10:27Sandra has placed two cups and the sugar bowl on the table.
10:30It was like a person was waiting, waiting for a guest,
10:35everything was prepared to consume, so to speak, a coffee in company.
10:41That evening Sandra is waiting for someone.
10:46It's her Tony.
10:51As the hot water fills the tub,
10:53Sandra hears the shop bell ring.
10:57He is not her lover, because he always enters from the back
11:00and he doesn't need to knock.
11:03So who is he? A customer?
11:08Surely someone who knows her well though
11:10and he knows that even after hours
11:12Sandra is available to open the pastry shop
11:15and satisfy late customers.
11:21That evening he must have recognized who knocked.
11:24In fact, he turns off the water, the tub is half full
11:27and goes down to the shop wearing slippers.
11:33This is an important detail.
11:36She wouldn't open the door to just anyone in that state.
11:38Surely he knows the person he is about to welcome
11:41and he is confident with her.
11:45She had to take a bath and went downstairs in slippers.
11:49with a simple sweater, maybe even without makeup,
11:53It means he knew the person who rang for him.
11:57Whoever the customer or friend is,
11:59the visitor asks the pastry chef for 25 desserts.
12:03Sandra wraps the tray and ties the bow
12:05and as he's about to cut the ribbon,
12:08the killer grabs a bottle
12:10and smashes it over his head.
12:13She falls to the ground, stunned.
12:16The sweater challenges.
12:18Sandra perks up and tries to scream.
12:21He then pushes a curtain tie into her mouth.
12:36At this point the killer grabs a knife
12:40and starts hitting her, everywhere, repeatedly,
12:44from her chest to her neck, leaving only her breasts intact.
12:52Those stab wounds are inflicted with such violence and anger
12:56that the blade even breaks into three parts.
13:01But the murderer's fury does not subside.
13:04The man grabs a pair of scissors and continues hitting her.
13:08At the end, 22 shots will be counted.
13:13The crime was discovered around 11pm on January 29th.
13:18What the first people who entered the pastry shop remember
13:23it's the acrid smell of blood.
13:31The first to discover the pastry chef's body is Zeno,
13:35a friend of Sandra Casagrande.
13:38Zeno says he entered the pizzeria where he met Tony,
13:42Sandra's lover, who offered him a coffee.
13:45I went out around a quarter to 11,
13:47I wanted to turn off the lights in my shop which is still here on Via Roma.
13:50I passed in front of my friend Sandra's pastry shop.
13:53He sees the curtains of the room are down but the lights are on.
13:56I went in to greet her and saw bloodstains on the floor.
14:00Who stabbed Sandra Casagrande?
14:03Was it a man?
14:05What if it had been a woman instead?
14:07In reality, in this story there is a woman who would have every reason to hate the beautiful pastry chef.
14:15She is Tony's wife.
14:17Is she the one who murdered her love rival?
14:20The woman who was stealing her husband?
14:24He arrives in town, rumors spread, but then suspicions fade away almost immediately.
14:29And for a specific reason, it is not specific.
14:33The coroner states that the stab wounds were inflicted with such force
14:39that it must have been a man who killed Sandra.
14:42Only one man to judge the wounds.
14:45A man taller than Sandra because the first blows are inflicted from top to bottom.
14:51The time of death was placed between 10:00 PM and 10:30 PM on January 29, 1991.
15:00It is likely that the incident was of a sexual nature.
15:03or rather that the murderer was motivated by sexual intentions
15:09and that not having found satisfaction, not having succeeded in the purpose he had
15:16he transcended, he probably lost his mind
15:20and attacked the woman until he killed her.
15:25It is clear from the outset also for the investigators
15:29that Sandra Casagrande was the victim of a crime of passion
15:33and that he knew his killer.
15:35However, it was not a premeditated murder.
15:42The man who rings the bell of the pastry shop that night
15:46he had no weapons with him.
15:47He used what he found in the store.
15:54So something must have happened to suddenly unleash his fury.
16:01Not only that, he left traces everywhere at the crime scene.
16:05Blood on door handles and in the bathroom sink
16:09where Sandra is found dead.
16:11And in that sink the killer even washed his hands.
16:16On the piece of cloth he stuffed in Sandra's mouth to stop her from screaming
16:21the culprit's DNA is isolated.
16:24And there is no doubt about it.
16:26It belongs to a man.
16:28The weapons used to kill the woman were also found at the crime scene.
16:33He left them there, next to the body, on a box.
16:37Perhaps the killer heard someone approaching and ran away.
16:42But why is this crime still unsolved after 24 years?
16:48The first investigations are the most important, often decisive.
16:52In this case, however, they seem to have been superficial and hasty.
16:57But there's more.
16:59It's true that it was cold that night in Roncade.
17:02But we're sure there was absolutely no one around.
17:09The minutes show that there is a large crowd of people around Sandra's pastry shop.
17:15In a place a few hundred meters away, some men are playing billiards.
17:21And there's also Tony, her lover.
17:26In Piazza Primo Maggio, around 9.55pm, two people, one of them parking his car
17:32and the other one who is walking under the arcades, they see a man waiting next to a car
17:39white.
17:40He is dressed in a leather jacket and has an unkempt beard.
17:45They see him crossing the street and heading straight for the pastry shop.
17:51It's just after 10pm and a 17 year old boy has just come out of a hunting course
17:57and fishing.
17:58He's waiting for his father and while he waits he decides to take a walk under the arcades.
18:03It is located right next to Sandra Casagrande's pastry shop.
18:08And that's when she notices a man.
18:11He is red in the face, visibly slouches and uses a stick to walk.
18:17Is one of them the killer?
18:19Or is there someone among these people who saw or knows what happened that night to the poor pastry chef?
18:26and he never spoke?
18:31These investigations, especially these first investigations, appear to be taking place in a substantially hostile environment.
18:36I would dare say omertĂ , with the feeling that many knew and no one wanted to say anything.
18:46If there was a sort of general complicity, despite the fact that in public declarations everyone showed interest in discovering the authors,
19:03or rather of the author of this heinous crime.
19:10So, according to Dr. Fogliadelli, who was the prosecutor of Treviso, in Roncade there is someone who knows more than
19:17as much as he wants to make people believe, but he prefers to remain silent.
19:20Someone else, however, can't hold back and whispers something to Sandra Casagrande's nephew.
19:29The only one who came to me, to my mom, was the one who transports drinks with the truck, you
19:36He delivers drinks to homes by truck.
19:41Who said these exact words?
19:44My father knows everything and before he dies he will tell the truth.
19:51Our correspondent, Emily de Cesare, went looking for him. Hear what he told her.
19:58This person who killed her, in my opinion, seems to me to be an accomplice, Sandra, and this, of what happened
20:10of the late Ciano.
20:12Did you hear what this gentleman is saying? But who is the late Ciano?
20:17Ciano is the diminutive of Luciano, specifically Luciano Vio, the pastry chef's husband.
20:25But what does Sandra Casagrande's murder have to do with her husband's suicide?
20:30And why is this man convinced that Luciano did not commit suicide, but was instead murdered?
20:37Not only that, he casts heavy suspicions on the pastry chef, even accusing her of being an accomplice to that crime.
20:49In reality, Luciano Vio's death remains, even after so many years, shrouded in mystery.
20:57He loved water more than land, that is, he actually swam and was strong.
21:01It's strange that someone would go and commit suicide in the water.
21:06Sandra Casagrande's husband was therefore an excellent swimmer.
21:10But the most important detail is that when his body was found his hands were tied.
21:17Does this seem like suicide to you?
21:18I believe that one cannot tie one's own hands.
21:21Let's go back to that evening of January 29, 1991 in Roncade,
21:26when Sandra Casagrande, Luciano Vio's widow, was murdered.
21:31It wasn't such a difficult murder.
21:36And in my opinion, not enough, or the right amount, has been done to actually try to find the culprit.
21:43Because, after all, that was his life.
21:46She was in the shop from morning until 9pm.
21:52Investigators have reconstructed in this way what happened that night.
21:56Sandra opens the shop to her killer, a man she surely knows, after closing time.
22:05And while she is preparing a tray of pastries, she is first hit with a bottle
22:11and then with a knife and a pair of scissors a good 22 times.
22:17The killer wounds her everywhere, sparing only her breasts.
22:23Who was around my aunt?
22:25Those were the people.
22:27It wasn't a madman who arrived, perhaps from far away, a serial killer, right?
22:32That is, we had to go and check there.
22:3524 years have passed and the person who massacred the pastry chef in Roncade that night still hasn't been discovered.
22:45But who is Sandra Casagrande really?
22:48And why kill her like that?
22:50Perhaps behind Sandra's seemingly routine life, there is some secret hidden.
22:56A secret linked to her husband's death, by Luciano Vio.
23:02There was talk of suicide, but in the village everyone knows that when Luciano was fished out of the river waters, he had the
23:09hands tied.
23:11And this is not the only disturbing detail.
23:15I was very good at both swimming and diving.
23:19This is what made me a little, or rather made everyone a little doubt that one
23:26he decides to commit suicide and he decides to commit suicide in the one way he shouldn't.
23:34Many in Roncade believe that Luciano was not alone there on the banks of the river.
23:40And there are even those who have come to suspect that someone killed him even with the complicity of his wife.
23:47Sandra.
23:49Let's listen once again to what exactly the person who claims that whoever killed Luciano Vio would have eliminated, 11 years ago
23:59later, also his wife, the pastry chef.
24:02This person who killed her, in my opinion, thinks that she is an accomplice, but Sandra is this, of what happened
24:14of the late Ciano.
24:16Were Sandra and Luciano both murdered?
24:19Is there really a connection between these two deaths?
24:23Who and how established that Sandra's husband took his own life?
24:28The first to arrive on the scene was the Marshal of the Carabinieri of Roncade.
24:34Suicide because the doctor also established it, he didn't just find, let's say, stab wounds.
24:41or gunshots, that is, he had nothing.
24:47Then with the autopsy, let's say, he established that he had died of asphyxiation and drowning.
24:54He was found with his hands tied in front of him and there it was confirmed, let's say, the result that he had
25:05tied by the hands because...
25:08To avoid second thoughts because they said he was a good spotter, tying his hands, that is, if he at the last moment
25:18if he took it, if he was good he could return to shore, while with his hands tied he could not return.
25:28For Marshal Gentile, there's no doubt. Luciano Vio committed suicide. The connection between the death of Sandra Casagrande
25:36and that of the husband therefore remains only a suspicion.
25:40The fact is that Sandra's killer has not yet been found. But why? Mistakes were made during the investigation.
25:47the investigations?
25:49Let's start with what happened at the crime scene.
25:55There's blood everywhere in the pastry shop. On the floor, on the walls, on the curtains, on the door handles, and in the back room.
26:04where the woman's body was found.
26:09The important thing is that the killer's fingerprints are also there. But they are quickly erased.
26:18When I got there, there were already a lot of people going in and out. So they tampered with evidence,
26:28they polluted all the footprints.
26:31When the Treviso Carabinieri finished carrying out their investigations, the forensic police entered the pastry shop.
26:39Here's what they wrote in their report.
26:42The soldiers had removed everything inside the pastry shop, even swept the floor.
26:50A report that leaves a big question mark.
26:57Why were my aunt's clothes burned after two months?
27:04Because they stank, they say.
27:07Why the hell is this the conversation?
27:10Even though all my aunt's property from clothes went to the heirs.
27:17So why didn't they give me my clothes back?
27:21The clothes Sandra Casagrande was wearing on the night of the murder were burned because they smelled bad.
27:29This is the reason given in the statement by the Carabinieri.
27:34This is a sore point, I admit.
27:40It's a fact, so to speak, that does not do credit to our investigative organization.
27:49But what remained in the memory of many people was the strange behavior of the commander of the Carabinieri station of
27:57Roncade.
27:58The same one who fished out the body of Casagrande's husband 11 years earlier.
28:04What did the kind marshal do that night?
28:07The part that left all of us operators a little perplexed was that it was observed, that it was
28:19precisely the lack of the station commander.
28:23That evening, the Carabinieri from the Treviso command were the first to intervene.
28:27Once they arrived in Roncade they went to look for the gentle marshal, the commander of the town station, at his house, but nobody
28:35he answered the intercom.
28:36At that point they climbed over the gate and rang the doorbell.
28:41Only then did the marshal's son answer and say that his father was not at home.
28:47I had no obligation to intervene, nor was I even obliged to be available.
28:52The rule said that when the station was not operational, the Treviso ones had to be launched.
28:57There were five of them, why wasn't I launched? Because there was an army.
29:01If it was his right not to intervene, why did the marshal make his son tell a lie?
29:07We didn't know until it came out later that he was in Padua eating.
29:12a pizza.
29:12This was the version he had given at the beginning, because he could not say that he was at home and he was
29:16refused to come, because it was a very serious thing.
29:19The kind marshal, after being denied, changes his mind and decides to show up at the crime scene.
29:26And the first thing he tells everyone, he wants the names of those who have climbed onto the property to report them, to
29:32trespassing, he left us all for a moment.
29:37The behavior that the Gentile Marshal had on that occasion will remain in the minds of his Carabinieri colleagues and not
29:45Alone.
29:46In fact, in Roncada there are many who have suspicions.
29:50But what was the relationship between the marshal and the pastry chef?
29:54My relationship with her was, let's say, good morning, good evening, we stopped there.
29:59I went to have a coffee with her and I never went to dinner or came to
30:03my house.
30:05Yet in the past the pastry chef's husband had turned to him.
30:10And do you hear why?
30:12His wife had asked for a separation, he was making a sickness out of it and I remember he came to me
30:20saying if I could interfere and convince the wife to reverse.
30:27I told him that even in private matters I can't intervene, what he could tell me is
30:33purely private matters, none of her business.
30:36So let's line up some data.
30:39The marshal had known Sandra Casagrande and her husband Luciano Vio for a long time.
30:45It was the marshal who first reported in a report that the pastry chef's husband had committed suicide.
30:52When Casagrande was murdered, her behavior was, to say the least, unusual.
30:59And finally, it should be noted that Marshal Gentile never appears in the investigations, either as a suspect or as an investigator.
31:09Did she kill Sandra Casagrande?
31:11Oh yes, I was looking forward to it.
31:14But for what reason, that poor thing, I think that if someone commits a murder there must be, I don't know,
31:22a reason.
31:24Three months after Casagrande's murder, Marshal Gentile ends up involved in an investigation for extortion and embezzlement.
31:35He is transferred, then he takes sides for two years and goes on leave.
31:39And at that point he exits the scene.
31:41But the investigations also go out of the picture.
31:45In less than six months.
31:47In short, they are archived.
31:49Why?
31:50Were there no suspects?
31:53Were there no witnesses?
31:56That evening, in a pizzeria in Via Roma, the same street where the pastry shop is located, there are some men
32:02who play billiards.
32:03There's also Tony, Sandra's lover.
32:07Tony is a married man who has been having an affair with the pastry chef for two years.
32:12He is very taken with her, and he is jealous and does nothing to hide it from the eyes of others.
32:19When I wanted to meet her, I called first, so I could go up to her house, my private one.
32:27I was passing by, you know, the yard behind his house, there was an opening behind the fence.
32:32So I passed by there and went in, went up into the house.
32:37The police heard him twice, but they didn't ask him if he had left the billiards room on the night of the crime.
32:43and if he had an appointment with her.
32:47That evening Sandra closes the shop at 8.40pm, when the last customer leaves.
32:53He goes up to the house, which is right above the pastry shop, and begins to prepare a hot bath.
32:58It was as if he was waiting for someone, waiting for a guest, everything was prepared to have, let's say, a coffee in company.
33:09Who was Sandra waiting for, her Tony?
33:13The fact is that before being able to immerse herself in the hot water of the tub, Sandra opens the door to someone who is playing the
33:19pastry shop bell.
33:21She had to go swimming and came down in slippers, with a simple sweater, maybe even without makeup, it means she knew
33:30the person who had rung for him.
33:31The man asks her for a tray with 25 pastries, but then something happens, and while the pastry chef is completing the
33:39package, is attacked and brutally killed.
33:43The killer escapes through the back door, locks the door from the outside, leaves the keys in the lock, and vanishes into the darkness.
33:50The coroner determines that the big house died between 10 and 10:30 p.m.
33:56At 10:45 pm, Zeno, a teacher from Roncade, passes in front of Sandra's shop and makes the terrible discovery.
34:06Zeno, to those who question him, also told them that he left the pizzeria where he was with Tony.
34:13That evening Tony is a few steps away from the pastry shop and therefore from his lover's house.
34:20Is he going to her? He tells the investigators no and adds that he hasn't seen the big house since the evening of
34:27January 23rd, that is, almost six days ago.
34:30Listen to what Sandra's friend Katia has to say.
34:35Did he go to visit her in the evening?
34:37Well yes.
34:39Do you know how often he went?
34:41Often, several times a week.
34:44I don't know the days, but when I was at E, yes, he came almost every evening.
34:49And he passed from behind.
34:51Well yes.
34:51What happened? Did the two of them argue?
34:54Is Sandra waiting for someone other than her Tony that night?
34:58And who is he?
34:59Does the pastry chef have a date with another man?
35:04What we know is that Sandra had no other relationships.
35:11And if Tony had gone to Sandra's that night, if something had happened, if he had found her dead, he could
35:22at that point called a friend so as not to get involved?
35:26Tony knows Zeno well.
35:30This person was at home that evening and although he was unwell at a certain point he chose to go to Roncade
35:39by car.
35:40Why? Because he remembers leaving the neon lights on in his shop window.
35:46Zeno's attitude isn't the only strange thing that night.
35:50A boy emerges from a hunting and fishing course. It's just after 10 p.m.
35:55He has to wait for his father and to warm up he walks under the porticos.
35:59And he passes in front of Sandra Casagrande's pastry shop.
36:04The lights are off and the curtains are drawn.
36:07He continues walking and immediately notices a man.
36:11He is red in the face and limps noticeably.
36:14And to walk he uses a stick.
36:18That man will recognize him later, in the janitor of Roncade.
36:23And the janitor from Roncade knows everything.
36:28And he saw everything.
36:30In reality the janitor will always deny having been there that night.
36:35Not only that.
36:35He threatens the boy and his family to make him recant his testimony.
36:41But the boy does not retract.
36:43The position of the man with the janitor's stick in Roncade
36:47however, it is not investigated in depth, at least judging by the documents.
36:50As well as that of the murdered pastry chef's lover.
36:55The list of suspects is long.
36:57But in reality only one person is registered in the register of suspects.
37:03This is a municipal employee.
37:06His name is Leopold.
37:08That evening two people claim to have seen him near the pastry shop.
37:13But he denies having been in Roncade.
37:16At that time he says
37:16I was having dinner with some friends of mine in Venice.
37:19But the alibi doesn't hold up.
37:21The prosecutor's office places him under wiretap.
37:24But soon everything, this time too, ends in nothing.
37:31Investigators lack that crucial element to get the investigation off the ground.
37:37However, in their hands they found three bloodstained banknotes.
37:42Three 10,000 lire notes recovered the morning after the crime in a vending machine located in
37:51a few kilometers from Roncade.
37:56In 1991 DNA tests were not carried out or they were carried out but they were terribly complex and expensive and in
38:04in this case they were not made.
38:05So we can only say that the blood type was the same as Sandra's.
38:09With the reopening of the investigation in 2009, we finally reached a turning point.
38:15There are also fingerprints on the banknotes.
38:19Some footprints were found, but the points of coincidence were completely insufficient to make any useful comparisons.
38:27Were these the killer's fingerprints or someone else's?
38:31If someone is running away and in a hurry in front of a vending machine, which is also so lazy, so slow,
38:39use 10,000 lire.
38:41At the time, I think 10,000 lire bought 10 litres of petrol, so you can go a long way.
38:47So one might think that they were deliberately dirtied at the scene of the crime.
38:55to, I don't know, create some kind of confusion, some kind of misdirection, you know, right?
39:01The prosecutor's office manages to isolate male DNA from the cloth the killer used to silence Sandra.
39:08However, the comparisons were unsuccessful and the investigation was closed for the second time.
39:17No one guilty, but many suspects, at least as many as the men whose heads Sandra Casagrande turned.
39:25Was the pastry chef from Roncada massacred because she refused to let her murderer in?
39:30If there is only one murderer, there are too many witnesses who, with their silence, are still accomplices today.
39:41this heinous crime.
39:46Our appointment with Who has seen the stories ends here.
39:49Thank you for being with us all summer.
39:53But next Wednesday the new season of Chi l'ha visto returns.
39:57As always at 9.15pm, as always on Rai 3.
40:01Good night everyone.
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