00:00How old is tomorrow?
00:02Tomorrow marks 34 years since Emanuela's kidnapping.
00:06Tomorrow marks 34 years since Emanuela's kidnapping.
00:08Of which nothing more is known
00:10Of which nothing more is known
00:11So this case was also closed.
00:13We must say, this is also a practice
00:15As Angelo said, this sentence of his is really strong
00:17We should postpone it every week
00:19In fact, I haven't been thinking about this thing all day.
00:20And I think the only word, as I was saying before
00:23And it comes to mind is failure
00:24The failure of justice
00:28The failure of us family members
00:30Because we were not able
00:34Maybe of pigs
00:35In the right way
00:36Perhaps the impotence one feels
00:39But one trusts
00:40The impotence of the Vatican State
00:43Not impotence
00:44The failure of the Vatican State
00:46Because it is a Vatican citizen
00:48And they say
00:49The Italian state must take care of it
00:51But we heard from mom first
00:53What do you say, I'm turning now
00:55At the Court of European Rights
00:56And justice in Italy
00:58I didn't have it
01:00Well, in the meantime they will tell you later
01:01That there's a sit-in tomorrow
01:03So if you want to participate
01:04But there was an initiative
01:07Important by Pietro Orlandi
01:08About Natarina's brother
01:09Brother of Manuela, of course
01:10Who asked the Vatican
01:12He said, why don't you take it out?
01:13In short, do not declassify
01:14All the things you have
01:15Etc
01:16So I though
01:16I want to give you an example
01:18To make you understand
01:19With Michele Bonica
01:20We took this phone call
01:22Look, the audio is original
01:24It's a man who makes phone calls with a code
01:26Because he had given a code
01:27At the Vatican
01:29He wants to talk to Casaroli
01:32At the time Casaroli was there
01:35And the nuns
01:36This is the original audio
01:37The nuns desperately search for Casaroli
01:40Because this is an important call
01:41It's a phone call about Manuela Orlandi
01:44What is the missing Vatican citizen?
01:46Let's hear this phone call
01:48And how does it end?
01:49And then I'll explain to you why
01:50As?
01:511, 5, 8
01:52What is this number?
01:54The secretary on behalf
01:55Secretary Casaroli
01:56Moment
01:58Excuse me
01:59Moment alone
02:02Moment
02:04Moment
02:063, 1, 1, 6
02:09Ready?
02:11Ready?
02:12Ready?
02:13Ready?
02:141, 8
02:145, 1
02:15Listen
02:16Both are busy
02:19Ready?
02:20Ready?
02:21Huh, did I do it?
02:23Make the inclusion
02:25Ready?
02:26Ready?
02:27I didn't leave my phone number
02:28Something
02:29Why didn't I do it?
02:29No, busy
02:30One moment, one moment
02:353, 7, 9
02:36But no, that's the thing
02:38Well, the other one always goes to him
02:41Him, because that one there is 3
02:42As?
02:443, 7, 9, 3
02:46Code, all the numbers we can't pass
02:48As?
02:50But who is speaking, excuse me?
02:51Here is Don De Paolo
02:52Yes, yes
02:53The Cardinal, please
02:55Right away
02:55Okay
02:56Do you have this number?
02:57This?
02:57Right away, this
02:58Ok fine
02:59I'm coming right away
03:00Both other numbers
03:01Father, you put him on a bike
03:05Oh mama
03:07No, stop, stop now
03:09How does he speak?
03:11No, and I said so
03:12Now I don't interfere with him anymore
03:15But how long does it take for these creators to come?
03:18I know that number there is definitely another place
03:24Eminence?
03:24Eh, I'll wait a moment
03:25But soon?
03:26Why couldn't the other numbers be passed?
03:28Yes, yes, I'll wait a moment
03:29Well, I can't yet
03:31It will have closed
03:35Ready?
03:36Ready
03:37Here is Your Eminence
03:41Here is Your Eminence
03:42Look, it's impressive
03:44This is the original audio
03:45The nuns are trying desperately
03:47Secretary of State Casaroli
03:49They find it
03:50Because there is someone who wants to talk about the kidnapping of this little girl
03:54Which is part of the Vatican State
03:55They find it
03:56But here the communication breaks down
03:58So, what we have to ask, let's say
04:00In our opinion
04:01There's the other part of the phone call
04:04Because we don't know if communication is interrupted
04:06No, our communication is interrupted
04:08I mean, it cuts out the audio
04:10What Michele Bonica found
04:11Actually
04:12Exact
04:12The phone call continues
04:13Continues
04:13Continues
04:14And of course if there is this first part of the recording
04:17There's that one after too
04:18Which is the most important part
04:19Why keep the nuns' ready ready
04:21And not
04:22No, we ask ourselves
04:23You can enjoy that instead
04:25Casaroli was censored
04:26Regardless, however
04:27We don't know
04:27But the request, let's say, is a bit like this
04:30Anything can help clarify the case of Emanuela Orlandi
04:34Without accusing anyone
04:35But everything that can be also
04:38I do not know
04:39Banal
04:39As it was for other phone calls
04:41Some undertones
04:42Some particular noises
04:44That could be useful
04:45We ask ourselves
04:46We ask ourselves
04:46That is, this part of the desperate nuns' ready-made
04:49Maybe then there is the other part that nobody
04:50You heard it
04:51There could be other things
04:52There could be other things
04:54So this one
04:54Let's say the request
04:56Let's say that Peter wanted to do it in a form
04:58Instead of doing it verbally
04:59Ask
05:00He did it with a lawyer
05:01He did it with a lawyer
05:26There's a sit-in
05:26Yes
05:27At 5.30pm
05:28John XXIII Square
05:30In front of the Mola Adriana
05:32Like every year
05:33We are always there to remember
05:35What was Emanuela like 34 years ago?
05:37And Mirella Gregori will also be with us
05:40Naturally
05:41Antoinette
05:41Maybe to Mirella Gregori
05:43Antonietta Gregori
05:44Because for her too
05:46Yes
05:46Because they are now united
05:49The lives of these two girls
05:52And anyway also
05:53Maria Laura said she will be with us
05:55What will come
05:56Then Natalina
05:57I always say here
05:59We make gray hair
06:00Let's move on
06:01But these cases are not solved
06:03And we just don't know what to do anymore
06:05So help us
06:06Because anyway
06:07He's 15 years old
06:09How old are you?
06:09I keep repeating myself
06:10The same sentence
06:11For 34 years now
06:12Every time I come to you
06:13I always say the same sentence
06:15Emanuela was taken away
06:17These people after 34 years
06:19They are big cowards
06:20Cowards because they are not brave
06:22They don't have the courage to face it
06:24A family
06:26Because then she was kidnapped
06:27But the family was not asked for anything
06:29So to some of another
06:30They must have asked for something
06:31To the family, definitely
06:33It's not like they asked for it to be ransomed.
06:34But after 34 years
06:36They are such cowards
06:37Who don't have the courage
06:38To say where Emanuela might be
06:40Dead or alive
06:42At least that
06:44No cowards
06:45And then I always say it
06:46They took it out on a little girl
06:4815 years old
06:49It's easy
06:50We took her away
06:51They kidnapped her with a family
06:52That for life
06:53He had to think
06:54What happened
06:56It could have happened
06:56Which is a terrible thing
06:58For a family
06:59In short
06:59Mother Mary
07:00He's still waiting
07:01With the key
07:02There
07:03And the door is always open
07:05Cowards
07:06Then I say it
07:07In short
07:07My anathema
07:08You're all going to hell
07:09I don't know if you believe it
07:10Clear your conscience
07:12Tell me what happened
07:13Emanuela
07:13But in my opinion not even hell
07:14Because if not
07:15In short
07:16You will lead to hell
07:17But anyway
07:17Alright
07:18Let's tell him
07:18At least we can see that they are afraid of us.
07:20And something
07:21They take it out
07:22We don't know
07:22Thanks Natalina
07:23Thanks Andrea
07:24Thank you
07:25At that time
07:25The practices
07:26As Allegretti said
07:27They are not archived
07:29No
07:29The people
07:30No
07:30The practices are archived
07:31The people
07:32No
07:32No
07:32The demonstration tomorrow
07:34And a hug
07:36To the family
07:37To the family of
07:38Allegretti
07:40At that time
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