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00:00It's an unsolved case and I have to give credit, we sometimes act like Pierini, but I have to give credit and
00:05for this reason we are really happy that we are the head of the Rome mobile squad, or rather the former head of the
00:10Vittorio Rizzi's mobile squad, because he has solved so many cases.
00:14And I absolutely have to remember some of them because it is right that it is so, the case of Maria Scarfò, also of
00:21They said she had voluntarily gone with a man, but instead she had been killed, raped, thrown into a service station
00:28it was in Caglianiello I remember.
00:30And then this terrible case of Maria Teresa Dell'Unto, always solved by the Rome mobile squad, also of her
00:37It was said that she had disappeared voluntarily, but after many years Rizzi managed to discover that she had been killed by
00:42a man who had even hidden the body in his house, in the garden and found the body, think about it, with
00:49another resident of the area.
00:51Well, Vittorio Rizzi, I have to tell you something, we are here, it's a way of greeting you, we are
00:56who saw it, because we knew it had become this time and so we naturally congratulate her.
01:01If I may tell you, however, that I must say that both I and the Orlandi family and Andrea too, as soon as we
01:08we knew that it became this time we said, but how did he set foot inside the basilica of Santa Polinare
01:13and he was promoted.
01:15It's an incorrect association. Let's say that when there are such complex jobs there is a team and in
01:25in this case the team is composed of magistrates from the public prosecutor's office, the Rome mobile squad, the scientific police who are
01:34doing an outstanding job.
01:35So I not only want to reassure Natalina Orlandi who sent me a worried message, but I really want to give
01:47a clear message.
01:48The team working on this case is there, it is very strong, the colleague who came to the mobile squad is
01:53a professional and in my opinion there is also a general climate that we have experienced in these days in Santa Polinare
02:02It seems to me that there is a collective will to find the truth. We have found great cooperation from the ecclesiastical authorities.
02:11I am confident that the work will continue and will continue well.
02:16So it's not a removal, we think badly but it's really a promotion, we're happy about that and of course
02:21We wish good luck to Dr. Cortese who came.
02:25Vittorio Rizzi, can I ask you about Emanuele Orlandi? I assume not because the investigation is ongoing.
02:30I can only, I allow you, because clearly anyone, any journalist has next to him the sister of Emanuele Orlandi, the former head of the
02:38mobile squad that investigated thoroughly,
02:40I can only ask you if you can confirm something that came out in the newspapers, that is, that there are some bones that
02:47they are not that old,
02:48that I am at Cristina Cattaneo's studio, as it was later published in all the newspapers, I can only ask you this
02:54is there any confirmation?
02:55This news was not correct.
02:57It wasn't correct.
02:59There are other things, but Federica, even when I actively carried out the work in the mobile squad, I thought
03:08of having to maintain secrecy and confidentiality about certain things.
03:12I am doing it even more today and I believe that the most important thing is to give this signal of trust.
03:19That is, all the conditions are in place for this case to reach a solution now more than ever.
03:26And this is what is important for us and we really have it, in fact it doesn't want to be a trap, because we
03:31We really want to thank you because you have dealt with so many cases of missing women.
03:36So now if you want to be with us, Rizzi, we are obviously following this story, there was an important meeting,
03:45this appointment which has moved from the Campidoglio to the Vatican, to St. Peter's, in short with this expectation, not only of the
03:53family members,
03:54a little of all the citizens who have signed the position of having a word from the Pope on
03:59Emanuela Orlandi.
04:01Because this would have been a sign, a signal, in short something important for all the people who believe in
04:08truth, in justice
04:09and above all they believe that the time has come for Emanuela Orlandi and naturally also for Mirella Gregori,
04:15because I know that you also worked a lot on Mirella Gregori.
04:19So Fiore De Rienzo was there with us, let's see together what happened and if the Pope, this word,
04:26Emanuela, this name, Emanuela Orlandi, she pronounced it.
04:40What will be the weight of the soul?
04:42Or cigarette smoke?
04:45Or, words left unsaid?
04:47This is what we could talk about if we looked at inexplicable experiences in the abstract.
04:53For example, why did a white balloon stop right on the highest symbol of Christianity, at the focal point of the
05:03Christianity?
05:04What?
05:05Who would say?
05:07He brought Emanuela's photo, the image of a denied truth, to intertwine with the image that for Christians
05:14is it the very image of truth?
05:19The spirit that spoke through the prophets, with the gifts of wisdom and knowledge, continues to hope
05:28women and men who are committed to the search for truth,
05:33proposing an original way of knowing and deepening the mystery of God, man and the world.
05:41The spirit of the risen Lord continues to make his voice resonate and to illuminate the path that leads to
05:52that truth which alone can set us free and give full meaning to our lives.
06:02Of course, the words spoken also have weight, these, professed for centuries, certainties for believers, said at the end of
06:11a morning eagerly awaited by many.
06:14It began here, in the Campidoglio square, even before the very idea of ​​Christianity, a place of secular words.
06:21Here, on the balconies of the buildings around the Michelangelesque square, the faces of people are exposed, of victims for whom
06:29justice is demanded,
06:31hostages of absurd crusades, of religious fundamentalism, civil heroes fallen for dark designs.
06:39Other faces remind us of private dramas, silent requests for help, silent appeals from those who are here today to share the
06:48request for the truth about a disappearance that has remained unexplained for 29 years.
06:53So, will he say something? I hope so, I think so, I'm being honest, I think so.
07:00At least the greeting.
07:01So it will just be a greeting?
07:03But I don't think I can say more, that is, it doesn't even seem like the right place to me, that of St. Peter's Square,
07:10that of saying more, but the greeting already means that he is aware of what is happening.
07:16And what's happening?
07:17I don't know, in this period really, in fact we were shocked by the arrest, so to speak, of the alleged crow, because
07:28the alleged, why.
07:31This leaves me very perplexed, also because in my opinion the good faith of that person can be perceived from the fact
07:37who had this documentation at home.
07:38Someone who wanted to harm the Pope would have handled it in a completely different way.
07:43Do you know him personally?
07:44Personally, not me, but my mother and my brother know him personally, also because he lives in my mother's building.
07:54Natalina Orlandi evokes what is leaking out about a still unclear Vatican affair, the one concerning the personal butler of
08:02Benedict XVI, Paul Gabriel.
08:05He has been held in a Vatican gendarmerie security cell these days because he is accused of having stolen confidential documents from the
08:13the Pope's private rooms.
08:15But from what my mother always told me, since she met him, that he is a very good person, that
08:22he is truly fond of the Pope in an incredible way.
08:29Fond of the Pope, one of the men closest to him.
08:34Some say he was framed precisely to hit the Pope, to send him a message.
08:40Another, perhaps, after the dismissal of Ettore Gotti tedeschi, the president of the IOR, the Vatican bank,
08:47who now speaks publicly of his love for the Pope, unusual words coming from a seasoned banker.
08:56Signs that would deserve deeper reflection, if we were not here now,
09:01to tell about the demonstration that is about to begin in Campidoglio Square,
09:05and will conclude in a couple of hours in St. Peter's Square, at the Angelus.
09:10Not just Pietro and Natalina.
09:11All the participants hope that the Pope will say something, even just a greeting, something that remembers Emanuela.
09:19Yet we cannot help but recall a distant episode that occurred in the close circle of the previous Pope,
09:25by John Paul II.
09:27His personal valet was Angelo Gugger.
09:30He too was on the upper floor of the building where the Orlandi family lived.
09:37Gugger had a daughter the same age as Emanuela,
09:40and before Emanuela disappeared, he had taken measures to protect his daughter,
09:45from a possible kidnapping, it was said.
09:48He had received information to this effect.
09:51But he did not inform Ercole Orlandi, until after Emanuela's disappearance,
09:56he got very angry with him.
09:58And also the IOR, the IOR of Paul Marcinkus,
10:02and the enormous amount of money that would have been used to finance Solidarity,
10:07appear in one of the hypotheses made to interpret the claims
10:11of those who claimed to have kidnapped Emanuela, 29 years ago.
10:16A secular ceremony will be celebrated here today.
10:34In this photo, behind this smile of Emanuela,
10:42there is the smile of many other people anyway,
10:45there is the smile of Mirella Gregori, there is the smile of Elisa Claps,
10:49there is Melissa Bassi's smile,
10:52and of the hundreds of people to whom human wickedness
10:57he denied that he could choose in his own life.
11:01I don't know the motive, I don't know those responsible for Emanuela's kidnapping,
11:10but I know the system that for many years
11:14he hid the truth about Emanuela's story.
11:17It is that conspiracy of silence between the State, the Church and crime.
11:25Behind the reasons of state and the papal secrets
11:31the mafias have used it as a shield,
11:36the deviated pieces of the Italian State,
11:39the deviant pieces of the Vatican State
11:41and all those guilty of unspeakable crimes.
11:45Today we will march for Emanuela,
11:47we will march for the dignity of this country
11:49and for the credibility of this Church.
11:52Thank you.
11:55A march of no more than three kilometers,
11:57towards this still half-empty square.
12:00The window from which the Pope will look out
12:02it already has the pontifical standard.
12:05There is a high hope that he will greet the protesters.
12:09Everything is more official today.
12:11This ceremony is a sign of the support of some of the institutions.
12:15There is the province of Florence with its president, Andrea Barducci.
12:20The province of Rome is represented by Nicola Zingaretti.
12:24There are mayors who have come from far away, from Osimo for example.
12:28There is Walter Vettroni, a member of parliament who has demonstrated
12:31to have Emanuela's story very close to my heart
12:33and former mayor of Rome.
12:35I've been convinced for a long time, you know, we talked about it,
12:38I am convinced that this story is the crossroads of many things
12:43typical of the history of those horrendous years.
12:47The presence of the Magliana gang,
12:49which was purely and simply a criminal agency
12:53which lent itself to various games,
12:57is the testimony of this.
12:59And then the red herrings,
13:01and then the torture that was inflicted on this family,
13:04because anyone who has followed this story
13:09and you did it better than anyone else,
13:12Do you know how many years this family has been told
13:16She will be released tomorrow and then a statement will be issued.
13:19And then silence for 29 years.
13:21Then the silence all these years.
13:25And there is Gianni Alemanno, mayor of this city.
13:29There is no institution,
13:32no associated reality
13:34that it may have strength,
13:37that can actually be founded
13:39if there is no basis of truth.
13:43This is the message that comes from this square.
13:45Rome, all of Rome,
13:47asks all institutions
13:49not to take a step back,
13:51but to take a step forward
13:53to get the truth after 29 years.
13:56We owe this.
14:05Truth.
14:06This seems to be the word of the moment.
14:10Everyone who said it
14:12they know its weight
14:13and the valence
14:14when it refers to the human story of this girl.
14:21The truth, knowing it,
14:24it is the hope of those who are here,
14:26on this path.
14:28And a nod,
14:29even just a nod,
14:30of who has the power to ask for it
14:32and maybe get it,
14:33it would be a strong signal.
14:35The sign that all this is happening
14:37it was understood
14:38and shared.
14:40Along the three kilometers
14:41on the streets of Rome,
14:43the group is getting bigger and bigger.
14:45It's not a question of numbers.
14:47Those who are here
14:48represent at least 80,000
14:50who signed the petition to the Pope,
14:52from all over Italy.
14:54It's a public demonstration,
14:56discreetly controlled
14:57by law enforcement.
15:00Until the procession comes within sight of St. Peter's.
15:03Orders,
15:04perhaps requested from beyond the Tiber,
15:06they impose that the demonstration be dissolved,
15:09let the banners be folded.
15:11Anyone who wants can go privately
15:12in St. Peter's Square,
15:13but without Emanuela's photo.
15:15Nobody dreams of obeying.
15:22And the checkpoint
15:23for access to the square
15:24it is almost taken by storm.
15:27We note the unusual presence
15:29even of a cardinal.
15:37Here is the Pope.
15:42Dear brothers and sisters,
15:45we celebrate today
15:46the great feast of Pentecost.
15:50It's Pentecost Sunday.
15:53Benedict XVI
15:54explains how the Holy Spirit
15:56guide man on the path of truth.
15:58Truth that sets him free.
16:00It seems like a premise.
16:04Then the greeting ritual begins.
16:07And finally I turn
16:08cordial health
16:09to Italian-speaking pilgrims.
16:11Here in the square
16:12some choruses are raised.
16:14Benedict XVI
16:22you risk not hearing the greeting
16:24if there will be.
16:26I salute mercy
16:28of Santa Croce sull'Arno
16:29and the Italian Federation
16:31of Archery.
16:33A special greeting
16:35goes to the representation
16:36of the State Police
16:38at 160 years old
16:40since the foundation.
16:42I wish everyone
16:43for a party
16:44have a good Sunday.
16:46Thank you.
16:47It's over.
16:48Unspoken words weigh heavily.
16:50It's like they weigh
16:51after a long wait.
17:02At first maybe
17:03I wasn't expecting anything
17:04then slowly slowly
17:04he came to me
17:06a bit of pathos
17:07if he says it now
17:08when I heard
17:09arrive at the Arch
17:09with pure arrows
17:11but then in the end
17:12Nothing.
17:13Then I thought
17:13the Pope is a prisoner.
17:17And we like to continue
17:18to question ourselves
17:19on why
17:20of what he captured
17:21this shot
17:22by Chiara
17:23a niece of Emanuela
17:24born after the disappearance
17:26much later
17:27June 22nd
17:281983
17:29and grew up
17:30in perpetual waiting
17:31of the truth.
17:36And why the Pope
17:38he did not pronounce
17:39this name
17:39Emanuela Orlandi
17:41we'll tell you
17:41immediately after
17:42this short break.
17:43Then the Pope
17:44during the Angelus
17:45he had once quoted
17:46a youth orchestra
17:48this last time
17:49he quoted
17:50an association
17:50of archery
17:51but not a word
17:52he never named
17:53Emanuela Orlandi
17:54Why?
17:55At that time
17:55in the documents
17:56that he brought out
17:57the journalist
17:58Gianluigi Nuzzi
18:00and here is the book
18:00his latest book
18:01His Holiness
18:02the secret cards
18:03by Benedict XVI
18:04the edition
18:05Clear Letters
18:06here it is
18:06there is a document
18:08which is really important
18:09in our opinion
18:10because it is the note
18:11which is given
18:12to the Pope
18:12before this event
18:15precisely in favor
18:16by Emanuela Orlandi
18:17is given to the Pope
18:19this note
18:20there is of course
18:22the speech
18:22what he has to do
18:23at the Angelus
18:23on all people
18:24and the associations
18:25who must nominate
18:26and then this note
18:26what does he say?
18:27with regard to
18:28the mention
18:30of the Orlandi case
18:30after hearing
18:31Father Lombardi
18:32and again
18:34Monsignor Ballestrello
18:35we have arrived
18:36at the conclusion
18:37which is not appropriate
18:38a nod to the case
18:40the brother
18:41of Orlandi
18:41strongly supports
18:42that at various levels
18:43Vatican
18:44let there be silence
18:44on the issue
18:45and something is hidden
18:46the fact that the Pope
18:48even just mention the case
18:49can give support
18:50to the hypothesis
18:51almost showing
18:53that the Pope
18:53he can't see clearly
18:54on how it was handled
18:56the question
18:57so it is suggested
18:58it is said
18:58to the Pope
18:59to the Pontiff
18:59in this note
19:01which we think is important
19:05it is not appropriate
19:07name the name
19:09Manuela Orlandi
19:10and also healthy
19:11the family members
19:12you who were there
19:13then it is written
19:15if it will be shipped at all
19:16a letter
19:17it is added to you
19:18a letter
19:18Natalina
19:19as far as I know
19:20Not yet
19:21Anyway
19:22the thing I cared about
19:23to say
19:24quickly
19:25first of all
19:26thank all those
19:27who participated
19:28to this march
19:29because really
19:30there was
19:30to support us
19:32we didn't want to
19:33a demonstration
19:34in the Vatican
19:34absolutely
19:35in fact my brother
19:36he tried to
19:37to keep calm
19:38the people
19:39maybe they had come
19:40from so far away
19:40waiting for the prayer
19:42a prayer
19:43together with the Pope
19:44we don't have it
19:45with the Pope
19:46Indeed
19:46some journalists
19:47they begin to support
19:48that we do
19:49this thing
19:50because we have it
19:51against the Church
19:52because we have it
19:53against the Pope
19:53No
19:54we have involved
19:56the Pope
19:56why Emanuele
19:57she is a Vatican citizen
19:58we don't have it
19:58absolutely
19:59we are all
20:00very religious
20:01in the family
20:02we won't dream of it
20:03never
20:03to go
20:04against sanctity
20:05that is this
20:07it's a thing
20:08that I want to emphasize
20:09clear
20:10and always
20:11we say it
20:12Vatican city
20:13but
20:13Victor Rizzi
20:14but we'll get there
20:16at the starting point
20:17Meaning what
20:17anyway in Rome
20:18the Basilica of Santa Polinare
20:20with this case
20:21look
20:22the reflection
20:23what we did
20:24days ago
20:24right with
20:25the prefect
20:25Batons
20:27these great mysteries
20:28they become mysteries
20:30When
20:30a case
20:31it is not resolved
20:32in a reasonable
20:33time frame
20:34and then he can have
20:35a thousand interpretations
20:36that become mysterious
20:37the case of Emanuele
20:39Orlandi
20:39it's just
20:40emblematic
20:41he made the rounds
20:42of the world
20:43we passed by
20:44from the gray wolves
20:45to operations
20:47of the services
20:47of the east
20:48from various countries
20:49of the world
20:51red herrings
20:51with
20:53intervention
20:54Of
20:54the American
20:55and various subjects
20:56to return
20:57from the point
20:57where he started from
20:58Meaning what
20:58the Basilica of Santa Polinare
21:00in particular
21:01the music school
21:02that at the time
21:02he frequented Emanuele
21:03and where does she come out from
21:04only to disappear into thin air
21:06It all started like this
21:07At that time
21:07who saw it
21:08wishes
21:08a good job
21:09to the police commissioner
21:10Well done
21:11for the promotion
21:12Rizzi
21:13and thanks to Natalina
21:14thanks to Andrea
21:15Ferraris
21:16the husband
21:16that always follows us
21:17on this path
21:18complicated
21:19and it didn't arrive
21:20the phone call
21:21by De Tommasi
21:23Rizzi
21:23but this time
21:24she was there
21:25to defend ourselves
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