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00:01Representing the Orlandi family is our Natalina with her husband Andrea,
00:0731 years old, Sunday, let's make an appointment with Natalina right away.
00:12We must remember that 31 years have passed, so at 10.30 we will all be at Castel Sant'Angelo,
00:19where we will arrive at noon for Pope Francis's Angelus in St. Peter's Square.
00:23So, it is Pope Francis himself, he was the subject, they sent him a letter,
00:28he sent it to a repentant called Calcara, we wanted to listen to him and Natalina you see it,
00:34you're listening to it for the first time, I warn you that it says something very strong, it says that your sister would have been killed,
00:42taken in the midst of parties thrown by men of the Vatican, that there would even be a tomb in the Vatican.
00:49Before hearing from you what you think, let's see, Francesco Paolo del Re went to him and
00:55he asked what he knows about Manuela Orlandi.
01:00I really don't think they're girls who were let out, or...
01:05If I don't talk to you about Orlandi and if you're intelligent you can understand something.
01:10Orlandi will be released very soon.
01:13Both Orlandi and Gregori were very much alive.
01:2031 years of rumours, misdirections, reports, half-truths, distortions, the mystery of Emanuela's disappearance is apparently unsolvable.
01:28Orlandi.
01:30The last character to promise important revelations is a collaborator of justice, a man who is killed and has
01:36repentant.
01:37His name is Vincenzo Calcara and he fought in the ranks of the Trapani mafia.
01:41I became a man of honor on October 4, 1979, in the hands of Francesco Messina Denaro himself.
01:53I was proud to be a part of it, she's ready to die.
01:57But she didn't die, in fact she gave death.
02:01Yes, I killed.
02:03Vincenzo Calcara is a murderer, considered by his bosses to be a very trustworthy man.
02:08He spent 12 years serving Cosa Nostra, he listened and saw.
02:15He knows names and facts and has recorded everything in his mind, right down to the most important assignment.
02:21I was commissioned to kill Paolo Borsellino by Francesco Messina Denaro.
02:29The absolute head of the Castelbetrano family was in the shadow of Totorrina and Provenzano.
02:41It's 1991, Vincenzo Calcara refuses to shoot and regrets it.
02:46Cosa Nostra then changes killers and Judge Borsellino is killed anyway.
02:51But before the attack, Calcara began telling Paolo Borsellino everything he knew.
02:56He talks about the mafia, the 'Ndrangheta, the secret services, Freemasonry, and the Vatican.
03:01Occult powers, in short, organized in a sort of great national coordination.
03:06They are connected to each other as if they were a human body.
03:14They do favors for each other.
03:16They all have equal interests in survival, they have economic interests, they are a human body.
03:29Is this theory or are these things you've seen with your own eyes?
03:32But what theory?
03:33Which theory?
03:34Here are things I've experienced firsthand.
03:40Vincenzo Calcara doesn't spare anyone and involves everyone in his revelations, even the Vatican.
03:47For example, he even went so far as to attack the president of the IOR, Cardinal Paul Casimir Marcinkus.
03:55Cosa Nostra sent me to Rome, says Calcara.
03:58I was escorting two suitcases containing 10 billion lire, money sent by the Castelvetrano mafia to the Vatican Bank and delivered directly
04:06to Marcinkus.
04:07It was 1981.
04:10But Vincenzo Calcara also reveals another meeting with Monsignor Marcinkus.
04:15This time it's about drugs.
04:16There are 3 kg of cocaine that I put in the 24-hour bag with my own hands, I hand it over to him
04:23all 24 hours to Bishop Marcinkus.
04:28Where was the briefcase delivered?
04:31In St. Peter's Square where you can see all the columns aligned.
04:36Did Marcinkus arrive alone?
04:38No, there were two bishops in the company.
04:41Dressed the same?
04:42Of bishop.
04:43So another man, did she know this other man?
04:45I didn't know him. I was told his name later.
04:49Then he says at the end when you say goodbye to him kiss the ring that he keeps there.
04:53That's what he told me.
04:55And then you give him my regards and those of Ulzuciccio.
04:59Marcinkus was thus absolutely certain that our thing was coming.
05:02A thousand times more.
05:06Did you hear?
05:07Calcara says he brought Marcinkus cocaine in 1981 on behalf of the mafia.
05:13Two years later, Emanuela Orlandi passed away.
05:16But what does the girl who played the flute have to do with all this?
05:19What does Calcara know?
05:22What was that drug for?
05:24That is, did Marcinkus use it for himself?
05:26Three kilos of cocaine?
05:27Ah, that's the beauty of it.
05:30This cocaine was used by other men who organized satanic rites, black masses, inside the Vatican, within the walls
05:50of the Vatican.
05:55Vincenzo Calcara says that the drug was intended for parties, orgies and even satanic rites, in which there would have been
06:01minors were also involved.
06:03Should we believe him?
06:05Monsignor Marcinkus is dead and cannot defend himself.
06:08But let's continue listening to Calcara's story.
06:10And I also know who participated in these rites, these black masses, these feasts and these orgies.
06:21These girls who are even sacrificed, minors, especially young girls, when it comes to black masses, satanic rites do not come out
06:30anymore and they will never find traces of these girls again.
06:37According to the repentant, the disappearance of Emanuela Orlandi, two years later, could be directly linked to those orgies that took place
06:44would be carried out inside the Vatican.
06:46And he adds another disturbing detail.
06:50In 1986 I ended up in the limestone quarry of Favignana, where I met a great man of honour, a man of substance, from the family of
07:03Campobello di Mazzara.
07:05What does he tell me?
07:06Emanuela?
07:06He says, why can't you imagine what Emanuela has done?
07:10Why did you forget about the satanic ritual, the black masses?
07:14He says no, because his Michele told me about these things too.
07:18Emanuela there, they killed him, inside the tomb, inside the tomb, but it's not just Emanuela.
07:31You know when the kids are there, they do rituals because you know.
07:33How does the conversation come out?
07:35It comes out because people talk about it, because on television, Orlandi, Alcica, they were always talked about often.
07:45We have omitted the name of the mafioso from whom Calcara receives this confidence, because this man is still alive, he is in
07:51prison and it will be up to the investigators to verify whether he really knows anything about Emanuela Orlandi.
07:59But is it possible that there is a secret tomb in the Vatican?
08:02Another revealer on duty comes to mind, Marco Accetti, who posted on his blog, as he reminds us
08:08a viewer, this photo.
08:12But it's not Marco Accetti we want to talk to you about.
08:15Let us return to Vincenzo Calcara.
08:17Here is the letter he wrote to the Pope.
08:19He shows it to us himself.
08:21I had it delivered by a person inside the church and I'm sure it reached him.
08:27I'll stop here, I won't ask myself any more questions.
08:28So for a private channel?
08:30A private channel of mine.
08:33Calcara wants to reveal three secrets to Pope Francis and name some names.
08:38One of these names is that of the cardinal, who was supposedly in the company of Marcinkus in St. Peter's Square, at
08:44moment of delivery of the briefcase containing the cocaine.
08:48Calcara says he has already mentioned this name to the judiciary.
08:51We asked him too and listen to what he answered.
08:55I can't do it because this name made an oath that I had to break and I will, already
09:02I did it to the magistrates because...
09:04I did it to him...
09:05Who did he swear to, excuse me?
09:08No, you can't forget that.
09:10We'll tell you in the next episode.
09:12No, but here...
09:13No, no, no.
09:14This is game-play.
09:15Let's change the subject because then I'll get pissed off.
09:17Did you mention this name to the judiciary?
09:19Yes.
09:20Okay.
09:20If I get in touch in a few days, everything is already there.
09:23In which prosecutor's office?
09:23They already exist...
09:24The prosecution was surprised.
09:28I can't tell you.
09:28But does the oath have nothing to do with the judiciary?
09:31It all comes together.
09:34So, first comes the oath of honor.
09:36But is she still part of Cosa Nostra, Calcara or not?
09:40Look, I'm getting up and leaving.
09:42But how dare he?
09:44Am I still part of Cosa Nostra?
09:46But isn't he ashamed?
09:48She is a repentant.
09:49She has long since abandoned it.
09:51Repentant is a noble word.
09:52She has long since abandoned it.
09:53But how dare you tell me that I'm still part of Cosa Nostra?
09:56But why does it refer to oaths of honor?
09:59What is it referring to?
10:00Oath of honor as a civilian.
10:03But she's an infiltrator.
10:05I have everything recorded and you have to let everyone know these things.
10:10Calcara asked me a question.
10:13With certainty.
10:15But what certainty?
10:16I wouldn't ask questions if I were sure.
10:17These questions are not asked.
10:19Attention.
10:21They are neither regattas nor threats.
10:23They are warnings.
10:24Be careful, let's use this interview well.
10:27Because here the truth cannot be distorted.
10:34The truths of Vincenzo Calcara.
10:37The last chapter, for now, of the disappearance of Emanuela Orlandi,
10:40following the revelations made a year ago by Marco Accetti.
10:43But while Accetti claims that Emanuela and also Mirella Gregori are alive,
10:48the mafia informer instead reveals the existence of a tomb inside the Vatican.
10:52A secret tomb.
10:54She says something very serious.
10:56That is, she has a family that listens to us.
11:01and who has been waiting for an answer for 31 years
11:04He's saying that the daughter and sister they're looking for is dead.
11:09She's dead and she's suffering.
11:11I mean, do you understand that this is a serious thing?
11:14It's just my fault if it's serious.
11:16It's just my fault.
11:17I'm telling the truth and it's serious.
11:19So she's dead?
11:20She is dead and is being carried within the Leonine walls.
11:23The ugliest truth is better than a beautiful opprobrium.
11:32Natalina.
11:34The ugliest truth,
11:36but let there be evidence of this truth.
11:39I'm glad he went to the magistrates,
11:41but now I don't see why there is so much publicity,
11:43why you should advertise on television
11:44and to say that he went to the magistrate.
11:47Did he go to help us?
11:49I don't know why suddenly after 31 years
11:53he decided to tell these things.
11:56The thing that amazes me
11:57it's that he doesn't go to the magistrates,
12:00writes the letter to the Pope
12:01and advertises that he wrote the letter to the Pope.
12:03When the Pope sees something like this,
12:05if I were Pope Francis,
12:06I would never receive it.
12:08That's right...
12:09Let's have the Pope after these services
12:11in short, he thinks about it four times
12:12as he said.
12:13No, but then I also want to say this thing...
12:15That is, did he go to the magistrate?
12:16I don't even want to talk about it anymore,
12:17because otherwise it seems like we're here
12:19to advertise them.
12:21I'm tired,
12:22I'm tired of this situation.
12:25Also because then I hear people's comments
12:27that it seems like we family
12:29we are advertising ourselves
12:31on Emanuela's shoulders.
12:34Because they think we take money
12:36when we come here,
12:37they think when my brother
12:38they go on broadcasts
12:39that they give him some money.
12:40This is absolutely not true.
12:42These are the people
12:43that are advertising themselves
12:45behind our backs.
12:46And then if they tell the truth
12:47and they go to the magistrate,
12:49everything is fine with me.
12:50But let them go on television
12:51to tell her
12:52It seems like a joke to me.
12:54That's what struck me
12:55this tombstone,
12:56as he says,
12:56with all these little girls.
12:57By the way, it's not like they disappeared.
12:59dozens of minor girls from Rome,
13:01because in the end it is not clear.
13:04There's Emanuela, there's Mirella.
13:05Yes, but then, well,
13:06let's not exaggerate.
13:07Now a lot can be said,
13:08I was born in the Vatican,
13:10I grew up there.
13:12This terrible thing happened
13:14to my sister.
13:15I don't know,
13:16am I naive?
13:17I don't want to believe it
13:18that such a thing exists.
13:19No, but then among other things
13:20I have to say that from the Vatican
13:22she went out because she was
13:23Flaudo's school.
13:24Exactly, precisely.
13:24She didn't come back, let's say.
13:26So, thank you Natalina.
13:28I just want to point out
13:29that we will remember her on Sunday.
13:31We will remember her in a clean way.
13:33And with the t-shirts,
13:34with Emanuela's face.
13:37Peter is already moving
13:39also on our sites, etc.
13:42Thanks also Andrea.
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