00:00I don't know what to make of the Jeremiah Love discussion, Daryl, and Coach Riz was on earlier today, and
00:05he's been advocating for Jeremiah Love for a while.
00:07Here's what I can tell you I know.
00:09The draft community believes he is an all-time prospect.
00:15They have put him up there as higher than Ashton Gentry from last year, which is astounding, all things considered,
00:20because Ashton Gentry was one of the highest-rated running back prospects in years,
00:24and then they're putting him up in the Saquon Barkley category as well,
00:28where Saquon is legitimately one of the highest-rated running back prospects I've ever seen.
00:32And so to put him up in that rarefied air, it makes you stop and pay attention to the point
00:37where it's like,
00:38all right, I could have maybe used some of you guys gassing him up this way, I don't know, maybe
00:42like four or five months ago,
00:44but the point is that we've gotten there with Jeremiah Love to the idea that enough people now have watched
00:49the tape,
00:49they've talked to enough NFL people, they're of the belief that Jeremiah Love is a once-in-a-generation type
00:54running back prospect.
00:55So now that that's all said, the question then becomes, will the Browns take him at No. 6 overall?
01:01And Judkins has to factor into this, but I don't think Judkins should factor into all of this, Daryl.
01:06Well, they drafted two running backs last year, so you'd be talking about drafting three running backs in two years,
01:13and two of them with a first- and a second-round pick.
01:17So I'll tell you right now, I'm not pro-Jeremiah Love.
01:20I need to make this known in the out front of this.
01:21I'm just laying out the situation.
01:23The way you described it right there, I can't let Samson get in the way of whether or not I
01:28take Jeremiah Love.
01:29Well, no, no, no, no, Judkins was the second pick.
01:32Okay.
01:32The second-round pick.
01:33Yeah, I know that.
01:34Judkins was taking, I'm saying.
01:35But you're equating for both the two of them already being there, right?
01:39Is that correct?
01:39Yeah.
01:40You took two guys last year, you'd be taking him this year,
01:42and that means in a position in a league that's not a running league,
01:49it's a passing league, you will have invested three draft picks on that room
01:55and two of those picks are in the top two rounds.
01:58Which none of this, by the way, screams anything analytical at all.
02:01Like, for being the analytical world that they live in,
02:03none of this screams analytical.
02:04That screams bad roster building.
02:07Well, I mean, yeah.
02:07I mean, just in general, six overall on running back doesn't scream analytical.
02:11If Quinshawn Judkins was not on this roster, we wouldn't have an argument.
02:16I'd be all for it. I'd be down.
02:19Oh, because it does bring up an interesting little, like, in recent years,
02:22we've moved away.
02:23It used to, for a couple-year stretch, it was like,
02:25don't take a running back in the first round at all.
02:27Then Jameer Gibbs happened, then Bijan happened,
02:29and all of a sudden we started having these convos where it was like,
02:33all right, you can take a running back again in the first round.
02:35It's not crazy.
02:37Just you don't do it in the top five.
02:38You just don't do it typically in the top five.
02:40And then last year happened with Ashton Gentry and a number five overall.
02:43He got taken.
02:43Now, but Ashton Gentry didn't have some breakout year.
02:46They had a miserable offensive line.
02:48Nobody is blaming Ashton Gentry.
02:50It's not his fault.
02:51Vegas screwed him over in many respects.
02:53The same way the Browns didn't help out Judkins when it came to an offensive line.
02:56Same thing happened with Gentry.
02:58But what's interesting is that we're right back to that same convo.
03:01And now I do think we have to talk about how it works within Judkins.
03:05And Coach Riz says it works perfect.
03:08Well, because you can line him out wide.
03:11For sure.
03:11He can put him in the slot.
03:13But are you willing to spend that much of your capital and your resources towards a running back position that
03:19is not as valuable as it once was?
03:21And especially in today's NFL, we just don't look at running backs the same way.
03:24Running back.
03:25I would phrase it as a running back wide receiver combo.
03:30Like, you're getting two players in one if you're looking for a justification.
03:34My concern is that they have so many other holes that they need to fill and needs they must address.
03:41It's like the quarterback thing, right?
03:42Should the Browns, whether it's draft Ty Simpson, whether it's draft Drew Aller later or one of these other quarterbacks
03:48later in the draft.
03:49Now you're at three quarterbacks drafted in two years.
03:52You'll probably draft a quarterback in the first round next year.
03:55So now you're talking about drafting four quarterbacks over a three-year period.
04:00Again, that's just bad roster planning and bad roster building.
04:04Like, you just, I understand you got to keep taking swings.
04:07But also at the same time, there's other positions that you need to address on your roster.
04:13I think that Jeremiah Love would be a fantastic pick at six if the Browns didn't have so many other
04:21problems.
04:21The issue is they have so many other problems, it becomes a luxury pick.
04:25It's almost like if they make a defensive selection, okay, whether, like whatever, right?
04:31It becomes a luxury pick.
04:33Right now, what they need to do is they need to come away in the first round with a receiver
04:37or, and I should say, their starting left tackle.
04:42I don't care about the order.
04:43I don't care how you do it, but that's how you need to come out of that first round of
04:47the draft.
04:47But is Jeremiah, is he different because of what he does?
04:50You mentioned what he does in the past game.
04:52And I think about his screen game in particular.
04:54And then even in, they put him in the slot like 60 times last year in Notre Dame.
04:58Well, that's why I call them a running back wide receiver combo because he is such a versatile player.
05:04And he's also an explosive player with that versatility.
05:08And it stinks that the Browns don't have the luxury of being able to take him this year.
05:13Well, but I do almost wonder if they could justify it from that perspective of like he would help out
05:16as much in the past game as he would in the run game.
05:18And then you have this Batman Robin type thing between him and Judkins.
05:21Well, that would probably be your new Nick Chubb-Kareem Hunt combo.
05:26That's exactly what it would try to be, yeah.
05:28Or even like what the Lions just recently had with Jameer Gibbs and their one-two punch combo.
05:33It was like Sonic and Hedgehog or something, whatever that was called.
05:35He would be a weapon.
05:36Sonic and Knuckles.
05:37Sonic and Knuckles.
05:39Sonic is a hedgehog.
05:41Correct.
05:41His buddy is not.
05:42Sonic the Hedgehog, yes.
05:44I hadn't played Sonic in a very long time.
05:46And I was thinking to myself, I'm like, what the hell is that other guy's name?
05:49What was it?
05:49Knuckles.
05:50Yes, exactly.
05:51David Montgomery.
05:52Is Knuckles also a hedgehog?
05:57Don't look at me.
05:57I have no idea.
05:58I stumped you there for a minute.
05:59No, but I don't know.
06:01I'll look it up and double check just to be sure.
06:03Don't Google it for you.
06:04Yeah, that's what we need you on today.
06:05That's what we need you on.
06:072-1-6-4-7-4-2-0-9-2.
06:09And I'm thinking of Jameer Gibbs because basically Jeremiah Love is comped out as a bigger version of Jameer Gibbs.
06:14That's his comp.
06:14And so if you're trying to do this Sonic and Knuckles type thing that Detroit had, it is setting up
06:19in many ways.
06:20Like, if this does work, it makes your offense better.
06:23This is not what it was when we're talking defense and defense only, where I think they're shifting so much
06:28to the offensive side of the ball.
06:29And they're trying to make sure you have a competent offense.
06:33What Jeremiah Love is, what he does is so different than most backs, or at least half the backs that
06:39you talk about.
06:40And that he does have a pass-catching ability that is a borderline elite.
06:43Like, it matters.
06:45Here's the good news for us.
06:46Here's the good news for us.
06:48What's that?
06:49I don't necessarily think that Jeremiah Love is even going to be on the board there for the Browns at
06:56six.
06:56Well, and so that brings another thing to the equation that we have to talk about.
06:59If we're talking about taking Jeremiah Love at six, that then presumes that he's there at six for you to
07:05take.
07:05Right.
07:06And if he's there at six for you to take, then you will have a team that will trade up
07:10to go ahead and get him.
07:11I know.
07:12He's the one guy that people would trade up for in this draft.
07:15And if he's there at six, somebody will bite.
07:17Now, for the longest time, I thought that would be the Chiefs.
07:20Right.
07:20But the Chiefs, they've addressed their running back situation this offseason.
07:23They got Kenneth Walker now.
07:24They're good.
07:25They're happy.
07:25But, like, there are enough teams that if Andrew Barry is trying to cash some chips for the next year's
07:31draft, this is how you would do it.
07:33And so you've got to weigh that in this equation as well.
07:35I will concede there are three players that the Browns could pick at six that I have no argument against
07:42and I will not be angry about.
07:43All right.
07:44What are they?
07:44Okay.
07:46Carnell Tate from Ohio State.
07:49Okay.
07:50Caleb Downs from Ohio State.
07:52Okay.
07:53I sense a theme here.
07:55Arvel Reese, Ohio State.
07:57And Jeremiah Love.
07:58Okay.
07:58Like, those three players, if the Browns end up with any of those three players, Jonathan, there's – it would
08:09be almost impossible for me to argue against those selections.
08:14Well, Nick Bumgarner was on the morning show today.
08:17It was Coach Riz.
08:17It was Ken.
08:18And he seems to think at six, Jeremiah Love is a great pick.
08:21I think Jeremiah Love is the best player in this draft.
08:24I think he is in the category or the tier of a B.
08:28John Robinson, Jameer Gibbs.
08:29I think possibly even in a Saquon category at some point someday.
08:33I think he's one of those guys that can change the tenor of a franchise on offense.
08:36Can be an immediate impact player.
08:38I think he's better than Ashton Gene T.
08:39I don't know if Jeremiah Love necessarily needs a, you know, amazing offense to come in and really sing.
08:46I think he could come in and help raise a team.
08:49I think he could come in and work with a young quarterback.
08:51You can move him around.
08:52You don't have to get rid of Judkins.
08:53Maybe Dylan Sampson doesn't have quite as much of a role, but you can play him with another guy.
08:57It works.
08:58You know, there's a lot you can do with him.
08:59The other thing I think that could justify it more also, in theory, would be you have the other pick
09:04in the first round.
09:04You could, you know, you're a team right now that is trying to acquire as many young, talented players as
09:08possible.
09:09To me, it doesn't matter what position they play.
09:11So at number six, I'm trying to get the absolute best player I can get, period.
09:15End of story.
09:16And if that's Jeremiah Love, that's Jeremiah Love.
09:18And if I have to get my tackle at 26, then that's what I'll do.
09:20Daryl says yes.
09:22Do you say yes?
09:222-1-6-4-7-4 to below 92.
09:24Can you be talked into Jeremiah Love at number six?
09:272-3-3, 2-3-4-4-4-7-4-4-8-4-4-4-5-4-5-4-4
09:27-4-5-6-6-4-5-6-4-7-6-6-7-sq5-6-6-6-6.
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