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00:00Good evening everyone, and welcome to Who Has Seen It?
00:02It's a great emotion for us today.
00:06We can only imagine what yours will be like,
00:08because now we are showing some unpublished images.
00:12Peter had asked us for a gift,
00:13if we could find some pictures,
00:15because Sister Emanuele Orlandi had been present
00:18in RAI's own television studios
00:20a month before his disappearance, mind you, on May 20, 1983.
00:25So we were used to seeing Emanuele Orlandi
00:28in this photograph, in a photograph,
00:30she with the headband, here she is,
00:32the photograph of the posters, with the band on the head,
00:36because his favorite team, Roma, had won.
00:39That's why he had this band,
00:40because she had gone to party like this.
00:43And now instead we see Emanuele Orlandi,
00:46a month before his disappearance,
00:49together with his brother Pietro.
00:53We are, as always, at Studio 7 in Rome
00:55and I'll introduce you to the class right away,
00:56the second B of the scientific high school of the national boarding school.
01:01Applause.
01:14So, we obviously have this disk
01:16we gave it to the family,
01:19But Peter wanted to see him here with us,
01:21you asked us, no, for this gift,
01:25you're excited.
01:27Now let's look at the other images together.
01:30You must consider that Emanuele Orlandi's school
01:32she had been invited to this TV show
01:35and Emanuele is sitting right in the front row
01:37next to the presenter.
01:40Here she is, you see her with this white blouse,
01:45with the volà and with this vest
01:48and I was telling you a strong emotion
01:50because we have never seen it
01:52if not in photography.
01:55I was telling you that we gave this disk
01:57to Natalina who saw it with her mother
02:00and we received a beautiful message
02:02of Andrea's family
02:03who says you gave us a gift
02:04because sometimes for us a disappearance after 30 years
02:08becomes a photograph,
02:11an almost faded memory
02:12as if it had never existed.
02:15Peter, those are beautiful pictures.
02:21I'm going out, sorry.
02:24So, I think Peter's emotion...
02:28Well, first of all I want to thank
02:30our Vittoria Polato
02:31who with Sergio Mocavini and Giuliano Donnini
02:34our other two colleagues
02:35she managed to find these images
02:36it wasn't easy
02:37because they are from 30 years ago.
02:39They are images
02:40that had never left the warehouse
02:43and so they are beautiful images
02:45they are not grainy that much
02:46because they came out for the first time.
02:49Here it is,
02:50Peter's sister
02:52that rises,
02:53who touches his hair
02:54and think that this blouse is served
02:57because mom kept everything
02:59and then he gave it to her
03:02when with the police chief
03:03Victor Rizzi
03:04investigations have been reopened
03:06but DNA was asked
03:07to family members
03:08by Emanuela.
03:10Here it is,
03:11we had never seen it,
03:14we had only seen it in photos
03:16and I believe that though
03:18this strong emotion of Peter
03:20must serve today
03:23because this way more people will come to the demonstration
03:26as far as I remember it's Sunday
03:28It's a demonstration that Pei Etero wanted to organize
03:30for all the missing
03:32and on Sunday we will start practically from under the Capitol
03:37you will arrive at San Pietro
03:39we will also be there for those who saw it
03:40I invite everyone with bicycles, with dogs, with children
03:43to give a boost of solidarity
03:47to all the families who will be present
03:49in addition to that of Emanuela Orlandi, of course.
03:53I hope you look at these pictures
03:55in the meantime who took her away?
03:57and then who still today after 32 years
04:00shows indifference and lack of cooperation
04:02and I wish they would realize the harm they have done.
04:08He looks a lot like you
04:09and then I believe that at this moment
04:11your children too
04:15Emanuela's nieces and nephews
04:17can see these images
04:21that somehow bring her back to us alive
04:25and then somehow
04:27obviously they make us think even more
04:29how terrible it is when there is a disappearance
04:32your sister is very beautiful
04:36by the way it seems a little bigger to us
04:37as we have always seen it in photographs
04:42he has this long, black hair
04:45it's exactly the trait
04:46it's the gesture he always made
04:47it's the gesture he always made
04:48it is the proper trait
04:49that I remember the last day
04:51who left home
04:52who slammed the door
04:54and that we had discussed
04:55because she asked me to accompany her to school
04:57that you accompanied him on the motorbike
05:00you always accompanied her
05:01I remember him putting your hair to one side
05:03and slammed the door
05:04and it succeeded
05:07it's your right
05:10then I repeat
05:12there is a petition
05:13which Peter formulated
05:15and if you want to join it is important
05:17because it's a petition
05:18which asks no to the archiving of cases
05:20by Emanuele Orlandi and Mirella Gregori
05:21you know that they have been done
05:24of intense work
05:25by the police
05:27of the prosecution
05:28so much so that one of the magistrates
05:29he did not want to sign the filing
05:31and they oppose the archiving
05:34because they say
05:34otherwise all this work ends up in the drawer
05:37it's as if nothing had been done
05:40then I
05:41look at Peter
05:42I would like to show
05:43these
05:45a friend of Emanuela
05:46whose name is Francesca
05:48and we will tell you soon
05:49Why
05:50I think we have it
05:51by telephone
05:53Francesca
05:54You are here?
05:54can you hear us?
05:57Francesca is a companion
05:58own
05:58classy
06:00Francesca
06:00can you hear us?
06:01Good evening
06:02Good evening
06:02I know you're not in Italy
06:03you can see
06:04you're looking at who saw it
06:06at this moment
06:07can you see it?
06:08yes I'm watching
06:10I'm in front of the television
06:11I'm also very excited
06:13eh
06:13I imagine it
06:14because I saw
06:15Emanuela and the class
06:17I remember it very well
06:18of that day
06:19that we posted in cese
06:20and I want to remember it
06:22to our viewers
06:22It's May 20th
06:24so a month before
06:25the two days before
06:26of the disappearance
06:27look at Francesca
06:28we'll make you see again
06:29And
06:30we'll make you see again
06:31and then we'll do it for you
06:32an important question
06:33let's see Francesca
06:34who asks Letta a question
06:35who is the director of Time
06:36and it is present
06:37in that broadcast
06:39a bad question
06:40there is no
06:41good preparation
06:41What class are you in?
06:43I am
06:44scientific high school
06:45scientific high school
06:46Very well
06:46so no voters yet
06:49no one has turned 18
06:50you're all smaller
06:52here it is
06:53not even you madam
06:56maybe she will be a voter
06:58Now
06:59here we have a girl
07:00is your name my?
07:01Francesca
07:02Francesca
07:02I wanted to ask
07:03for a boy
07:04who leaves high school
07:05and what does he want?
07:06start
07:07wants to undertake
07:08journalistic career
07:09towards what type of studies
07:11it must be addressed
07:12but there isn't
07:13a precise rule
07:15Why
07:15there is no
07:16a degree course
07:18in journalism
07:19or a field of study
07:21that guarantees
07:22the access
07:22to this profession
07:24At that time
07:24Francesca
07:25you
07:26the other time
07:27the other week
07:28you had contacted us
07:29And
07:30since you were
07:31at school
07:32with Emanuela
07:33so who knows how many times
07:34you said the sentence
07:36national boarding school
07:37Victor Emmanuel II
07:38which is the name precisely
07:41of the school
07:41I make you feel better
07:42to our viewers
07:43this recording
07:45which has arrived
07:45At home
07:46Orlandi
07:47they had said
07:47which was the voice
07:48by Emanuela
07:49but the investigators
07:50they studied
07:50that voice
07:51they said
07:51it couldn't be
07:52by Sabrina Minardi
07:53the woman
07:54by De Pedis
07:55the bandit
07:56of the band
07:56of the Magliana
07:57At that time
07:57let's hear it together
07:58this voice
08:24Francesca
08:25we can ask you
08:26if you recognize
08:27Emanuela's voice
08:28or you don't recognize it
08:29like the voice
08:30by Emanuela
08:33No
08:33I don't recognize her
08:34absolutely
08:35like the voice
08:36by Emanuela
08:36they are words
08:38which clearly
08:39I heard
08:39many times
08:40in the two years
08:41that we spent
08:42in class together
08:44it is not
08:45in my opinion
08:45it's absolutely not
08:46Emanuela's voice
08:47nor for infection
08:48of the word
08:50scientific
08:50nor for infection
08:52In short
08:53of the last word
08:53of the first sentence
08:54and of the second sentence
08:56he doesn't say
08:56with a national view
08:57scientific
08:58it's an infection
08:59southern
09:00Emanuela had
09:01an accent
09:02Roman
09:03like all of us
09:04what I think
09:05is that anyway
09:06may be
09:07the voice
09:08of someone
09:09that anyway
09:10he spoke
09:10with Emanuela
09:11why Emanuela
09:12he used
09:13say
09:13this other year
09:14Therefore
09:15probably
09:16this word
09:17that maybe
09:18one might say
09:19this other year
09:20or next year
09:21Emanuela said
09:22this other year
09:22so maybe
09:23it's someone
09:24that with her
09:24he spoke
09:25but this is not
09:26Emanuela's voice
09:27I am one
09:29practically certain
09:30it's a voice
09:31of a person
09:32southern
09:32it's not a voice
09:33of a person
09:34Roman
09:34and it's not his voice
09:35because more than anything else
09:37the first part
09:38when he says
09:38second
09:39everyone
09:39we thought
09:40that maybe
09:41there is a first part
09:42of a person
09:42southern
09:43maybe the second part
09:44of a person
09:45who can know
09:46precisely
09:47or
09:47he is from Rome
09:48what does he say?
09:48this other year
09:50listen Francesca
09:51we will send you
09:52Obviously
09:52If you want
09:53Right back at you
09:53these images
09:54and we turn to
09:55to others too
09:56classmates
09:57if they want
09:57we are
09:58here
09:59why after 30 years
10:00with Peter
10:00we are still here
10:01seeking the truth
10:02Therefore
10:02I have to say
10:03that whatever
10:04then it can be useful
10:05even something
10:06any particular
10:09that comes back
10:10to the mind
10:10I think it was
10:11an emotion
10:12for the whole class
10:13by Emanuela
10:13and maybe Gianni Letta
10:15he didn't expect it
10:16of having been there
10:17that day
10:18with this girl
10:20which disappeared from Rome
10:20more than 30 years ago
10:22and that is in the heart
10:23of all of us
10:24thanks Francesca
10:26thanks to you
10:27a hug to Peter
10:29Thank you
10:29HI
10:29Thank you
10:30Until we meet again
10:30we want to repeat
10:31then in the meantime
10:32you can go
10:33on our website
10:34the official one
10:34on Facebook
10:35for the petition
10:36both on the site
10:37of those who saw it
10:37or on the website
10:38by Emanuela
10:39www.emanuelaorlandi.it
10:42we have arrived
10:42over 35
10:435 thousand
10:44memberships
10:45it's important
10:47that there are many
10:48but I repeat
10:49for Emanuela
10:50but not only
10:50for Emanuela
10:51because they can't be
10:52archive things
10:53they can't be done
10:54archive people
10:54and it would be
10:56a very large one
10:57defeat
10:57for justice
10:58just give in
10:59the step
10:59to those who don't want it
11:01let the truth emerge
11:02that maybe
11:02will be in front of the TV
11:03to watch the broadcast
11:04to see these images
11:05as you say
11:06now that they've seen
11:07these images
11:08let's hope that in short
11:09hearts of stone
11:11they melt
11:12I hope so
11:12and something
11:14come out
11:15why us
11:15what we hope for
11:16after many years
11:16is that always
11:17someone
11:18let your conscience be freed
11:19because after all
11:20that Emanuela
11:20she was kidnapped
11:21and then suppressed
11:22at this point
11:23it's a fact
11:24in fact
11:25At that time
11:25there is always hope
11:27there is always hope
11:27that she is alive
11:27will never die
11:29you know it
11:30that you have this hope
11:31which belongs to everyone
11:32because as long as
11:33I found her alive today
11:34after 32 years
11:35but today
11:35at least with Vittoria Polato
11:37who gave us this gift
11:38thank you very much
11:40because she was very good
11:41very kind
11:43Peter
11:43there is the demonstration on Wednesday
11:45so repeat where?
11:469.30
11:48Araceli Square
11:50under the Capitol
11:51and then we'll go
11:52at the Angelus
11:53of Pava
11:54hoping that
11:55a word of solidarity
11:57for all families
11:57because for all the missing
11:59this demonstration
12:00it's important
12:00to be many
12:02then Peter
12:03if you want to go
12:04to give a kiss
12:04to Roberta Ragusa's cousins
12:06because they have shivers
12:08them too
12:08and we in a few moments
12:10let's start
12:11who saw it?
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