00:02I texted you last night, since we were talking. I was still awake,
00:06I couldn't sleep. I looked at the internet, this thing you told me, this Holland,
00:11Olinda. What is Holland? Oh, Orlandi. Orlandi, Orlandi. Orlandi, come on, Orlandi, Orlandi. And nothing,
00:19I wrote this to you. I read the whole article online, that's all. Oh, what a…
00:23You read about Orlandi. Remind me of that, so we'll be fine, you say. Mamma mia, I...
00:29I wanted to forget about these things. After 23 years they're still a pain in the ass, but what should I do?
00:33What can we do? All right, we have to fight. There's something concrete against you, right?
00:38Well, when I see my voice I'll let you know. Do you understand why I keep changing my number?
00:43You're in, take it slowly, okay? No, I thought you were having fun like that.
00:47Unfortunately not. These people haunt you all your life, they're always a pain in the ass.
00:51I assure you one thing, I love you. I don't care what happened in the
00:55your past, in your present, and what will happen in your future. This thing doesn't...
00:59Yes, for goodness sake, unfortunately when I was young I was in a somewhat particular environment.
01:04We were all reckless, but I don't regret what I did. I don't regret it. You
01:09I'm telling the truth. I did it for the deaf and I don't give a damn about what I did.
01:17Good evening everyone, and welcome to Who Has Seen It? What you've heard is one of the
01:20many things that are found in the investigation that was carried out into Emanuele's disappearance
01:26Orlandi and Mirella Gregori. This investigation has been closed, the prosecutor has requested
01:32the archiving and the GIP has decided, okay, archiving. Pietro and I are with us
01:39Natalina, their sister Emanuele has disappeared and Antonietta, her sister Mirella, continues to
01:45to have disappeared.
01:48The bad thing is that we learned about it from journalists, nobody warned us.
01:54The phone calls came to say archived, archived. I didn't want to believe it that day.
01:59and instead nothing, it seems that these two girls only have a stamp and a number. The archiving
02:07This is it. I've been missing a sister for 32 years. What should we do? We need to look for her.
02:14Are these girls alone? There are friends, the boys from the petitions they signed.
02:2180,000 signatures and yet they have done nothing. I have a family that is looking, two families.
02:27who are looking for two girls. We will still get to the bottom of it, we will look for the truth and the
02:33Justice must be done. These two girls must be sought despite the closure of the case.
02:40But then we are wondering, does archiving affect the fact that it is now like a book
02:47that close, Emanuella did not exist, Mirella did not exist, they remained like this
02:51At 15 years old. Will there be anyone who will continue to investigate? It will be more certain than anything else.
02:58What's written in the 64-page response or not? And that is the question.
03:07And then the thing that makes me extremely angry, makes me angry, now I think about that criminal
03:13or to those criminals who took away two little girls, two young girls who will stay
03:19even laughing behind our backs, behind the backs of those who have made an effort, behind the backs of all
03:24the people who support us and who have signed the petitions. We are all
03:30powerless and they won, because this makes us understand that they won, but we
03:39We don't give up, they apparently won.
03:42In my opinion this is their illusion that they have won and they think they have succeeded.
03:47to make people forget this story, what they've done in these 32 years. But I wanted
03:51to thank those people for whom justice still has a value, and it is the
03:58Dr. Capaldo, who is the magistrate who has been dealing with this matter for years and who
04:02He opposed the archiving, considering it unacceptable. And for this I thank him, because
04:07evidently there are people who still believe in justice and have not given way to those who
04:13He wants the truth to be hidden for who knows how long. I don't thank the
04:18Vatican for how it behaved, because it was a behavior that I never understood
04:24in these 32 years, he has maintained his position by never taking an official position and I would like
04:30I remember a phrase I heard a few days ago from Pope Francis, he said who is indifferent
04:35he stands by and does nothing, he is an accomplice and this is the behaviour that he had
04:41The Vatican and not only in these 32 years, have been indifferent to look and have not done
04:46nothing, as if it didn't concern them, instead it is their duty, it would have been
04:51it is their duty to demand the truth.
05:09So this is a symbolic gesture, Pietro, Natalina and Antonietta leave with
05:15the pain, they go away from their families and of course we are with them and we will continue
05:21to fight so that there is truth.
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