00:00I would like to know if our department head agrees with the Accetti case. What happened?
00:06There's something new, we have a testimony that we consider really important.
00:11because we have reached, our Francesco Paolo del Re has reached the father of a child
00:15who do you think was approached by Accetti a month before the death of little Cosè Garramone.
00:22Needless to say, Marco Accetti is the man who made us find a flute
00:25who said that he had something to do with the kidnapping of Emanuele Orlandi,
00:28with the kidnapping of Mirella Gregori, who had told the Italian justice
00:32and in fact the injured party was found guilty by the Italian justice system of having hit Cosè without having seen him,
00:40he had never seen it and then he told us that he had stopped,
00:44then he saw that he was dead, that he was a beautiful child and then he left.
00:47But in the end, little Cosè was left alone to die there, like a dog in the pine forest of Ostia.
00:54A father tells us my son could have been little Cosè.
00:59The envoy Francesco Palo del Re.
01:06The story we are about to tell you happens in Rome five months after the kidnapping of Emanuele Orlandi
01:12and four weeks before the death of little Cosè Garramone.
01:17It's the end of November 1983
01:20and Stefano, who is the protagonist of this story, is just 12 years old.
01:26That afternoon Stefano went for a stroll in Piazza Navuna.
01:30It's November and it gets dark early.
01:33While he is walking along Corso Vittorio, a woman approaches him smiling.
01:40She is not alone, behind her there is a man with a camera around his neck.
01:45The photographer and the woman stop the child a few hundred meters away
01:49where Emanuele Orlandi was made to disappear.
01:52The couple showers Stefano with compliments, telling him he has a beautiful face.
01:58Then they ask him to pose for some photographs.
02:02To entice him, the photographer tells him that he might even earn some money.
02:07Stefano is hesitant, he doesn't know what to answer.
02:11Not far from where he was stopped is his father's jewelry shop.
02:17And then he suggests that the photographer go and talk directly to his dad.
02:24Faced with that proposal, the photographer backs out.
02:27She tells him that she has an appointment and that she doesn't have time to go and talk to her father.
02:32Before saying goodbye, however, he asks Stefano for his phone number.
02:36Then he takes a piece of paper and writes his on it.
02:43After many years, the father of that child has decided to speak out.
02:47Here's what he remembers about that day.
02:50He said, you know, I was stopped by some journalists, some things.
02:56He says, because they took pictures of me, some things, he puts me on people today, here and there.
03:02And they gave me the phone number of the studio.
03:08And I also told him right away, look, I wouldn't give so many things, because if it was something interesting,
03:15He came to me, asked my permission and I tore up his number.
03:19And my father says to him, but I gave him yours too.
03:21He tells me, yes, I gave yours.
03:22Then I tore it up for him.
03:23He says, you don't have to give so many people, because these are people who go around, strange people,
03:29which then when you are there there is no photograph of it, but who knows what other things there are.
03:35But this story doesn't end here.
03:38Hear what happened to Stefano and his father a few months later.
03:44Calling the police one morning, but she who has two children,
03:48he says, yes, one is called Stefano.
03:50Then Stefano, the slightly older one, said to you two,
03:54come up to the police.
03:56It's urgent, go up.
03:58And we went up, and a carabinieri came there, a captain, something like that,
04:03With a folder, he took out a photograph of a child riding a horse.
04:08Say, does Leo know?
04:10He says, no, that's how it fell.
04:12He says, no, because he is, he says, they have this, it was, he died, he was killed.
04:19The photo that the Carabinieri showed to Stefano's father is that of Cosè Garamonna.
04:25He too, twelve years old like Stefano, Cosè was hit by a van in the pine forest of Ostia,
04:3020 kilometers away from his home,
04:33to a place he could never have reached on his own.
04:37I remember this photograph with this child on horseback, who was riding a horse,
04:42and now, you see, this is this child, they found dead here there.
04:47And who did we catch, who were there, who hit the van here and there,
04:52he had your phone number.
04:54Stefano's name was underlined by this, this photographer.
05:02During the search, the Carabinieri found at this photographer's house
05:07little Stefano's phone number.
05:09The number is highlighted.
05:11The photographer pointed it out.
05:14This photographer is called Marco Accetti.
05:18He is the man who is accused today of having participated in the kidnapping of Emanuele Orlandi
05:23and that on December 20, 1983 he was driving that van
05:28which hit and killed little Cosè Garamonna.
05:33During the investigations into the murder of Cosè,
05:36Accept confirms that you have stopped little Stefano
05:39just to offer him a photo shoot.
05:41And to the police who interrogated him,
05:43he also says that Stefano was a very handsome blond boy.
05:48Here's what Stefano's father remembers
05:50regarding the words that Marco Accetti said
05:53towards his son Stefano.
05:56We saw this beautiful child, all of it,
05:58Of all of them, this was the girl we were most interested in.
06:03It was really cute,
06:05Stefano was truly a beautiful child,
06:07blond, fallen, was falling red.
06:09I remember all this perfectly.
06:13Marco Accetti declares to the investigators
06:16who on that occasion was with his ex-girlfriend,
06:19the same woman who accompanies him to the pine forest of Ostia
06:22after having run over little Cosè.
06:25But is she really his ex-girlfriend,
06:27the woman who lured the twelve-year-old along with him on Corso Vittorio?
06:31We can say that this is not the case.
06:33And it's Accetti's ex who contradicts him.
06:36He writes it to us in a letter, black on white.
06:39Dear editorial staff of those who have seen it,
06:42I no longer frequented Marco Accetti in 1983,
06:45if not sporadically,
06:47and when we met it was only to argue
06:50on our emotional situation.
06:52And consequently it certainly wasn't me.
06:54that at the end of November 1983
06:57I accompanied Accetti on a walk along the Vittorio Emanuele route,
07:00as he awkwardly states in a statement.
07:03But I want to think that he did it in good faith, getting confused.
07:10So Marco Accetti lied.
07:13And to give strength to the words of the ex-girlfriend,
07:16there are also the statements that little Stefano himself made.
07:20The physical characteristics of the woman who stopped him
07:23in fact they do not correspond to the description
07:25of Marco Accetti's ex,
07:27starting with hair color.
07:30The woman on Corso Vittorio was blonde
07:33and has never been identified.
07:36Does anyone remember her?
07:38Do you know who he is?
07:39Could you contact us?
07:42But let's take a step back
07:44and we go back to the day Emanuele was kidnapped.
07:46There is one circumstance that has never been clarified
07:49even though thirty years have passed.
07:52Orlandi is seen for the last time
07:55at the exit of the music school in Ludovico da Vittoria
07:58which is located next to the Basilica of Santa Polinare.
08:02We are a few hundred meters away
08:04from the place where Stefano was also stopped.
08:08The last people to see Emanuele
08:10they are schoolmates
08:12and one of them tells us about a girl
08:14which has not been identified to date.
08:18I have known Orlandi Emanuele for about three years.
08:21as I attend the same music institute as Santa Polinare.
08:24At approximately 7:00 PM on June 22nd
08:27we reached the bus stop.
08:29We waved goodbye to Emanuela
08:32which was already on site
08:33together with another girl.
08:36This girl is 15 years old
08:37a little shorter than Emanuela
08:39with short, curly, black hair.
08:43Who is this girl?
08:45Did he really attend Emanuela's music school?
08:48And then, putting together Stefano's story
08:52and the testimony of the schoolmate
08:54by Emanuela Orlandi
08:55two women emerge from the reports.
08:58Who am I?
09:00And is there a connection between them?
09:02Marco Accetti brings up the issue again today
09:05the Corso Vittorio episode
09:06connecting it to Cosè's death
09:09and reveals a new background story
09:11which, if true, would be of great importance.
09:15We stopped an act la noticenne
09:17in Corso Vittorio and Emanuela II.
09:19And did you film it?
09:22Of course, I secretly photographed you
09:24while we were talking to him.
09:26Here, little girl, we needed it
09:28to apply some pressure
09:30on a clergyman.
09:33Marco Accetti claims he stopped children
09:35and photographed them to exert pressure
09:38on some ecclesiastics
09:40implying that behind all this
09:43there was the shadow of pedophilia.
09:45But is it really like that?
09:47Investigations are underway
09:52to the Secretariat of State
09:55and also to the Vatican Gendarmerie.
09:57As far as we know
09:58the Public Prosecutor's Office
10:00he asked for confirmation from the Vatican
10:03on the facts that Marco Accetti recounts?
10:06It was not done
10:07no official request.
10:12And it's not clear why.
10:17The Rome Prosecutor's Office
10:18he did not consult the Vatican.
10:20Instead Daniel Ramada
10:22the Uruguayan ambassador
10:23at the Holy See
10:24he explains to us that he had
10:26the official assignment from his government.
10:28Indeed, yes, the government knew.
10:30The government asked us
10:31to take an interest in the case
10:32and to make ourselves available
10:34of the family.
10:35He explains to us what the attitude is
10:36of the Vatican Secretariat of State
10:38compared to his requests?
10:40A collaborative attitude,
10:43open and problem-free.
10:48Emanuela, Mirella, Cosè
10:51and now Stefano.
10:56Imagine that Stefano
10:58he was taken by a thousand,
10:59had so many people here.
11:01It comes to my skin
11:03just thinking about it.
11:07And if on that November afternoon
11:09of 1983
11:10Stefano had said yes
11:12to Accetti's proposal?
11:13I thank God that Stefano
11:15I still have it all here.
11:19It could have been in place of things
11:21and Stefano could have been there.
11:25And we thank this dad
11:26for his testimony
11:28really important.
11:29We are in progress
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