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411 Podcast🍾Reading Between The Wines
DISC 6: Vitality
Track 18: What Guides Your Decisions When No One Is Watching?
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04:43When it comes to financial wellness, when it comes to debt-free living, we're going to have a great show
04:51today. We're going to have a great show today. We have a great lineup for the rest of the week
04:56for Mental Monday, Transformational Tuesday, Wind Down Wednesday, Coaching Sessions Thursday, and Financial Fridays.
05:04So stick around.
06:34And then, of course, I do Wind Down Wednesday.
06:37Shout out to my friend, we'll be right back.
07:18See, he's coming from Belgium.
07:30So, but before we're right back.
07:33I'll be right back.
08:07So, we'll be right back.
08:18When we're right back.
08:30Let's get into the song of the day.
08:35Now, I'm going to be right back.
08:40Because not only does it.
08:42I'm going to come from the financial aspect.
09:12I'm going to be right back.
09:19You know, we're right back.
10:16I'm going to be right back.
10:27I'm going to be right back.
11:04Right back there.
11:07I'm going to be right back.
11:36So, I'm going to be right back.
11:47Because what's going to be right back.
11:52I'm going to be right back.
12:04I'm going to be right back.
12:28what if, what if.
12:31I'm going to be right back?
12:44I'm going to be right back.
13:15And I'm going to be right back.
13:24And I'm going to be right back.
13:28So, I'm going to be right back.
13:37But mentally, I'm going to be right back.
14:06I'm going to be right back.
14:24I got to tell you, I have no idea what's going on.
14:27So the temperature has been like sort of like up and down.
14:32Up and down.
14:34One minute is cold.
14:35I feel like there's allergies, then you don't know.
14:39It's just something else.
14:41So excuse my voice if I sound a certain way.
14:45But we're trying to break through with all the crazy weather.
14:49But I know that this good heat is getting ready to come up soon.
14:52So I'm all for it.
14:57So I have so much to talk to you all about.
14:59And those of you listening early in the morning, if you are on point with everything, you may be able
15:07to catch me going a live masterclass.
15:11I have a two-hour masterclass coming up today.
15:13So that's it.
15:15For those of you out there who are listening live, please do me a favor and text the word P
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15:22P.E.A.C.E.
15:22Text P.E.A.C.E. to 609-210-9.
15:26And you may be able to obtain access, compliment access to my two-hour masterclass, The Spirit of the Dead.
15:38Again, the word is P.E.A.C.E.
15:41The word P.E.A.C.E. to 609-210-9.E.A.C.E.
15:46Join me for a live complimentary two-hour masterclass.
15:53Yes, I'm giving away for this masterclass, Spiritual Cost of Debt.
16:00We're going to speak about what happens with debt, how it affects you spiritually.
16:07When you are in debt, how it affects the spiritual realm, how it affects your walk.
16:14Look, God has put us here to live in abundance.
16:24And we have to be good stewards of not our money, but of his money, the money that he has
16:31entrusted us to manage.
16:35When we mismanage God's money, that's when I say, all hell breaks loose.
16:45When we mismanage what God has entrusted us to take care of, and we do what we want to do
16:52with it, instead of what he would like us to do with it, then I truly believe that all hell
16:57breaks loose.
16:57And some people say, oh, I don't want to go to hell.
17:02Oh, I want to make sure that I'm going to heaven and all of these things that some of these
17:10doctrines have us to believe.
17:15But listen, heaven and hell is a state of mind.
17:18Again, I'm giving you my real-life experiences, and this is my opinion.
17:24I am not a financial advisor.
17:28I'm not a financial planner.
17:29I am just a financial coach, and I'm sharing with you the experiences, the real-life experiences, and some of
17:35the situations and scenarios that I have been through in my life.
17:39And through that, I believe that heaven and hell is a state of mind.
17:49And I don't have to worry about going to hell because I've already been there.
17:53I've experienced hell on earth, and all of the realms were screwed up when I was in debt.
18:01My spiritual walk was not on point.
18:06Whatever I had and whatever I thought that was being spiritually sound was distorted.
18:15It was distorted, and there was a little bit of chaos in there, and the mental aspect.
18:25You want to talk about hell on earth when you don't have your mental together, and you know how they
18:31say the enemy can play tricks on your mind?
18:34If you don't have the mental aspect equipped and on point and locked down, anything is able to happen.
18:45I was speaking a couple nights ago about the African proverb.
18:49I might have to look it up, but, and please correct me, put it in the comments, let me know.
18:56But basically, along the lines of, see, if there's no enemy within, the enemy outside can't hurt you.
19:04Because you are so on point, and you are so secure, and you understand and know who you are from
19:11the inside out.
19:13That you're not, your inner is so strong that it won't allow something from the outside.
19:19It won't allow outside forces to come in and distort what you have going on on the inside.
19:25But now, if you are attacking yourself from the inside, you're just inviting other people to come in and join
19:32a party.
19:33You're inviting other spirits to come in and join a party.
19:37See, you have to be so equipped, and you have to be so suited up and well-armored up that
19:44you are able to fight against all outside sources.
19:47See, I had that thing twisted, and it just sounded, and it was just an absolute disaster because I used
19:55to attack myself mentally.
19:57And then, therefore, I opened up the door and allowed other people, spirits, to come in and join a party.
20:08That was a problem.
20:11Now, the physical aspect of it.
20:13The physical aspect is an important thing because a lot of people today, they suffer from mental health issues.
20:27A lot of people suffer from depression.
20:29There's a lot of different mental situations and illnesses and conditions that go on out there today.
20:38Let's be honest.
20:40More than ever, I feel, again, this is my own personal experience.
20:44I feel, and this is my opinion, that since 2020, it just exploded, and it created the pandemic, opened up
20:56the door, and exposed a lot of different things.
20:58I'll put it that way.
21:00And it's more, I guess the word is prevalent, I believe, than it has ever been.
21:10At the same token, now you're able to seek help a little bit more than what you were before because
21:21there are platforms where you can go in and get great community.
21:28So, that's the bonus.
21:29You're able to go on to different podcasts and speak.
21:34Yeah, granted, hopefully it's the right one.
21:37That's very important to make sure when you're speaking about personal and sensitive things that you have the right audience.
21:46So, I want to touch base on the physical as well, and I understand how the physical and the mental
21:52can tie in together.
21:54Because if you are social media scrolling, if that's the first thing that you do when you wake up in
22:01the morning, before you even pray, before you even have a chance to think, before you have anything, if you're
22:06grabbing your phone, a lot of that is being downloaded into your system, and it is affecting your mental.
22:13So, what you're doing in the physical realm can affect you in the mental.
22:17If you are basically just, I'm going to call it doom scrolling.
22:22If you're basically just scrolling on Instagram or social media, whatever it is, Facebook, TikTok, and you're doing nothing else
22:33and that's all you're doing all day, that is going to weigh heavy on your mental.
22:38So, if you are not getting outside and getting exercise, getting fresh air, you know, hitting that natural sunlight, getting
22:49that great vitamin D, breathing that nice fresh air, if you are not doing that, I'm not saying you got
22:59to run a marathon, but at least be able to walk around the block a couple times.
23:03Sometimes, if you can jog great, if you can run amazing, if you are not getting outside, that can affect
23:13your mental.
23:15So, what we do in the physical realm, and we're going to go even deeper than just this exercise part,
23:22just getting out, that's only part of it.
23:24But it will tie into the mental aspect, and it affects how you show up in the physical, how you
23:33spend your money, how you interact.
23:35All of these things go hand in hand.
23:38If your spiritual realm is messed up and jacked up, you can be doing some reckless and disrespectful things when
23:43it comes to your money.
23:45I don't know who I'm speaking to, I'm only speaking from real life experiences, but I've been there before.
23:52Staying on this physical aspect, it even goes as far as what you are putting into your system, as far
23:59as the foods that you are eating.
24:05Staying on this physical aspect, it's just so, what you put in is what you get out.
24:10What you put into your system is what's going to, you understand where I'm coming from.
24:17Let me know if you feel me when it comes to this.
24:19The food choices, healthier food choices, will then for affect the mental, and you'll have healthier thoughts and healthier mental
24:33patterns, which will show up again in the physical realm.
24:38Maybe you will start to think differently because your mind will be a little more clear and not distorted with
24:46all of the processed foods and all of the junk foods and the fast foods and everything else that's out
24:51there in a high fructose corn syrup and everything else that they put in these foods.
25:01All of them go hand in hand.
25:05I'm not saying that we have to be, it would be great to be A++ on all of them.
25:11You might be up here on one and you might be here on another, you might be down here on
25:14the other, but a nice medium balance is where I'd like to see myself.
25:22And I have to remember that every day is not going to be a perfect day, but I always have
25:28to remember to practice what I teach.
25:30So as I'm interacting with each and every one of you out there, as I'm doing my one-on-one
25:36coaching sessions, as I'm having these type of conversations, I'm also reflecting on my own life.
25:47And that's just reality.
25:49Because I never wanted to have a platform.
25:51I never wanted to do any of these things and be living a double life.
26:00Because I've done that before.
26:01And it wasn't a good feeling.
26:03And it was very disheartening.
26:09It was very embarrassing.
26:12Even though nobody behind the scenes could see that I was living a double life in the past.
26:21When I showed up at different places, when I was around people, I just had this feeling of, this is
26:34just so fake.
26:35Like, this is just so fake.
26:39And that's when the attitudes came out.
26:41That's when the lashing out came.
26:45And that's when the drama and the chaos.
26:47Because I knew that I was living a lie.
26:49And God had not put me here to sit around some folks that I don't feel like being around.
26:56And going to places and doing things that he's not putting me here to do.
27:04So, I know what that's like.
27:06And I have refused today.
27:09As sure as my name is what it is, absolutely not.
27:12Will I go out here and act one way.
27:17Say one thing.
27:18And then do another.
27:20I found Black Diamond Council was born.
27:23Because I said, I got to do something different with my life.
27:26This is wrong.
27:27This is wrong.
27:28This is wrong.
27:28Let's clean this up.
27:29And then along the way, I did a few things.
27:34When it comes to the financial wellness.
27:38And when it comes to debt-free living.
27:40And I said, okay, this is it.
27:42This is why you had to go through what you went through when it comes to, as I say, living
27:48a double life.
27:48This is why you had to sit in rooms.
27:50Be around people that you didn't want to be around.
27:52This is why you had to get uncomfortable.
27:55This is why people talked crap behind your back.
28:00And maybe even today, who knows.
28:02But at this moment, I could really care less.
28:05This is because you're different.
28:08And this is different.
28:09And this is not for everybody.
28:10So, if you want.
28:12And again, I have to tell myself this.
28:15If you want to be just like everybody.
28:17Continue to do it.
28:18Continue.
28:19I mean, I've done it before.
28:21And it didn't work.
28:23We don't like that.
28:25It got us nowhere.
28:27You know, we were at our lowest to the point where we couldn't get any lower.
28:31Or do you want something different?
28:33This is what God has called you to do.
28:37You knew the right path.
28:39Before you went to the wrong path.
28:41You chose to go to the wrong path.
28:44To get along with the get-along crew.
28:46And to do what everybody else was doing.
28:48And I got exactly what they got.
28:51Miserable.
28:53Unhappy.
28:54Full of debt.
28:57Full of a whole bunch of other things.
29:00But I got that already.
29:02I lived that.
29:02Been there and done that.
29:04Now this is a new chapter.
29:06Now because I cleaned up the spiritual, the mental, the physical, an amazing thing happened when it comes to the
29:16financial realm.
29:17And an amazing thing happened.
29:22And what I was in the red turned into green.
29:28When I decided to do something a little bit, I understood and learned, oh, you mean to tell me this
29:37isn't mine?
29:38Oh, God has just entrusted me and put me in charge.
29:44And I have to do certain things and ask and pray and wait and be still and know that, okay,
29:52I got you, I got you.
29:55Now easier said than done.
29:58Before it gets to one aspect.
30:03Go to work.
30:05Like they say, go get in the gym.
30:09You have to get in the gym when it comes to the physical aspect.
30:14Not saying you literally got to go to a gym.
30:17But you got to get outside.
30:19You got to get moving.
30:20You got to get exercise.
30:21You got to do some yoga.
30:22You got to get your mind off of whatever was keeping you trapped.
30:30Mental aspect.
30:31You got to go to work.
30:33You got to get in.
30:34So now what does that mean when it comes to going to work and getting in the gym when it
30:40comes to the mental aspect?
30:41I'm going to give you a few.
30:44I know you want to know.
30:46I'm going to give you a few.
30:50You are only an average.
30:53And I'm going to repeat this and I've said it plenty of times and I'm going to continue to say
30:56it.
30:57Remember, I have to make sure that I always practice what I teach.
31:02So when I minister to you, I'm ministering to me.
31:05You are only an average of the five closest people that you surround yourself with.
31:142020, when I learned that, I said, okay.
31:17Started going through my phone.
31:18Let me go through.
31:19Let me go through and delete, delete, delete.
31:25Absolutely.
31:25I haven't spoken to you in over a year.
31:29Delete.
31:29Oh, I remember that you made me feel a certain way and I just kept you around just because I
31:35was so concerned and worried about what you would think and say about me.
31:38If I did delete you, well, guess what?
31:41Delete.
31:41Delete.
31:42Oh, you were just a friend at work, but remember when you tried to be shady and talk out of
31:51both sides of your face?
31:54And I know what you said about me because this person and that person and not everybody's going to tell
32:00the same line.
32:01Okay, delete.
32:02So I had to go through and I did that exercise.
32:03And then I strongly encourage you all, if you haven't texted them, they haven't texted you and your number is
32:10just chilling in there for over a year and you haven't been in contact, delete.
32:15And I guarantee that they won't hit you up again.
32:19And if they do hit you up again, just do the basic who's this.
32:22And if they really are who they say they are, they'll show themselves.
32:29If these people are meant to be in your life and be in your world, don't worry, trust and believe
32:35that the most high knows how to keep that thing intact.
32:41There are people that I was like, ah, whatever, I don't want nothing to do with them.
32:45And then I end up bumping into them in a store or they just be, they're just so consistent.
32:52And the only way that you can describe it is, is, um, supernatural work.
32:57So there are people that I was like, eh, whatever.
33:00And then I end up being in your life anyway.
33:04Use discernment now.
33:06I'm not saying that that's always a good thing because the enemy can try to trick you and trap you
33:11as well, but just do the exercise.
33:16And even if it's 50%, even if it's 75% of the people that will fall off, it's just extra
33:26baggage that you were able to clean up.
33:29That's how you're able to strengthen the mental.
33:33Cleaning up your environment.
33:35Now, if you are only an average of the five closest people that you surround yourself with, this is a
33:41financial show, so I'm just keeping it real.
33:44Maybe you should surround yourself by people who have a little bit more money than you do.
33:49So if all your friends are broke, then guess what's going to happen to you?
33:53Most likely.
33:55You're going to be broke because you're going to pick up your habits.
33:59There's this such thing called soul ties that you end up picking up the habits and doing things and you
34:05don't even know you're doing it.
34:06It's from a spiritual aspect that you will be basically becoming the people who you surround yourself with.
34:16And I know a lot of people don't want to hear this and a lot of people may sign off
34:20and I have lost some, you know, supporters and followers along the way.
34:26And in the beginning, I was a little, I felt a certain way about it because we've come from such
34:34a far place of having only a few followers to having close to 25,000 people worldwide listening to the
34:424-1 podcast, reading Between the Wines and, you know, following and learning from Black Diamond consultations.
34:51So in the beginning, it made me feel a certain way, but as I continue to evolve and step into
34:59my purpose here, it actually makes me happy.
35:06It makes me happy today knowing that when one door closes, the next one might be open.
35:11So if this is not something that you are interested in listening to, that's a beautiful thing.
35:17Thank you so much for showing me because now you will open the door and allow someone else to take
35:21your seat.
35:21And I'm okay with that.
35:23If you want to continue to live in debt, if you want to have sleepless nights, and if you want
35:29to toss and turn and pace the floor late at night based off of the poor financial decisions that you've
35:37made, then if that's what you want, go right ahead.
35:41Because let me tell you this here.
35:45I have spent the majority of my life trying to change people, trying to change people and getting myself worked
35:54up, upset, just turning to the Tasmanian devil because I wanted people to have a great life and to see
36:04things the way that I've seen it.
36:05So if anybody out there, people pleasers, I don't know what you want to call them, empaths, I don't, I
36:16don't, whatever the technical term is.
36:20Because anybody out there that tried their best to change somebody, whether you were buying stuff for them, creating a
36:26better life for them, giving them money, basically enabling people, if you were that person, I want to tell you
36:35this.
36:36You have the award.
36:38You have the Game Over Award.
36:40Congratulations.
36:41You have won the Game Over Award.
36:46No good.
36:48No good at all.
36:51You cannot change anybody.
36:54See, I woke up in 2020 and I realized that you have been painted.
37:00First of all, I had to tell myself, Laren, you know what?
37:02Let's just be real for the first time in your life.
37:06I had to look myself in the mirror and say, you know what, sir?
37:10You are an amazing, you are handsome, you're a beautiful man.
37:16And I'm so sorry that you thought that it was okay to go ahead and put your mental beliefs and
37:28your whole makeup onto somebody else.
37:32That you thought that you thought that you can download what God has placed up here, the beautiful gifts and
37:37the amazing wisdom and knowledge and understanding that God has given you, that you decided and you thought that it
37:45was the best thing to do to try to go ahead and duplicate that and put it on somebody else.
37:53I really am.
37:54I really am.
37:54I'm really am sorry that you thought that that was okay.
37:58See, once I learned, oh, wow, this was a gift.
38:02Thank you, God.
38:03Thank you so much for giving me this gift.
38:04I didn't know that it was wrong.
38:08I've racked my brain for so many years.
38:10I didn't know that it was wrong to think that everyone should think the way that I thought.
38:18Oh, and by the way, God, you have given me these visions, you have given me this thought process, you
38:25have given me everything that you have given me so that I can help teach and train the people who
38:34are ready, the people who want to learn.
38:38And when someone shows you who they are, Maya, Angela, see, when people show you who they are, you should
38:48believe them the first time, not the second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, or eighth.
39:01And so when people do show me who they are the first time, oh, I get it, that's what I'm
39:06supposed to say, thank you so much for showing me exactly who you are and no hard feelings.
39:13And I don't even need to get into all of this with you, but I just internally, I need to
39:18say no hard feelings, but you know what?
39:20Let me just go ahead and move and let them stay over there and rock and do whatever they're going
39:23to do over there because I need to move and do what I need to do over here.
39:27And the more that I step into my purpose and the more that I align myself with like-minded individuals,
39:34okay, see, what they're doing over there, that doesn't fit well with me.
39:37I don't do stuff like that.
39:40But see, I've tried to, and I tried to, you know, mingle in and step in and try to teach
39:47and help, and that became a disaster.
39:49So we know we don't do that over there, what they do.
39:51So let's move on over here.
39:53And when I step into my purpose and when I do exactly what God has put me here to do,
40:00he will provide, and he will provide me the people who want to learn and want to get to the
40:06next level and who want to excel and who wants to grow.
40:09Now, that's what I'm talking about when it comes to that mental.
40:16That's the type of work that you have to put in and pray and get into that spiritual realm and
40:27ask for wisdom and build and get that understanding.
40:38And pray for discernment to be able to know the fake ones from the real ones, because trust and believe
40:44that happens too.
40:47I was listening to a song today from TLC off of the Crazy Sexy Cool album, Case of the Fake
40:54People.
40:56You got to be very careful.
40:58They'll smile on your face.
40:59You know that song, The Backstabbers?
41:02And all they want to do is take your place.
41:05Come on now.
41:08That affects the mental as well.
41:10What you, people you hang around, people you talk to on the phone.
41:14I had to stop that too.
41:15Like, you're basically downloading, mentally downloading, all of the information and all of the emotions and mannerisms and even the
41:32way people speak their words and the things that they say.
41:35Have you ever been hanging around somebody so much and you are not around them anymore for a couple hours
41:44or days or whatever, and you start to say exactly the same thing that they say or start to be
41:50and do some of the same things that they do?
41:54It's spiritual.
41:56You got to be very careful with the content that you consume, the people who you're on the phone with
42:02day in and day out.
42:04Someone always calls you and says that they're not feeling well.
42:08They're this, they're that.
42:09They're unhappy.
42:10They always have this chaos and this commotion going on in their world.
42:14And you sit and you listen to that hours on end.
42:18What do you think is going to happen?
42:20You're going to develop that same thought process because you have been downloading.
42:26See, the mind, I know I'm on this mental.
42:30I know I'm on this mental for a minute.
42:33The mind is so powerful.
42:34So, so, so powerful.
42:38Records and downloads every single thing.
42:44Even the visual aspect of it, the things that you consume and watch and your environment, your brain is constantly
42:52processing.
42:54This is so deep, I know.
42:56This is real deep.
42:58So, you have to be very careful of that.
43:01The music that you listen to, I've even changed the music that I listen to.
43:10I love Mary J. Blanche.
43:14I am, I understand that, I know that.
43:17But there are certain Mary records that I have to stop listening to.
43:22I listen to, you know, people say I like old Mary, I like new Mary.
43:28I listen to new Mary, to happy Mary.
43:30Because I can't, I've downloaded the music for so many, I've lived it for so many, today, I just can't
43:37do it.
43:39And I go back sometimes and I listen to records here and there, but I don't stay there.
43:46I used to stay stuck for so long.
43:49And I downloaded all of those themes, the feelings, the emotions, the trust and belief.
43:57That's why I understand and know.
43:59I know, I know who I am today.
44:03Spiritual.
44:05I spoke about scrolling on social media.
44:09It's very important how you start your day, ladies and gentlemen.
44:14Who you are dedicating the first hours of your day to.
44:23When you wake up in the morning, what's the first thing that's on your mind?
44:28Who's the first person on your mind?
44:32That is so important.
44:37Listen, this whole thing is so powerful and so amazing.
44:42And for those of you out there who might be struggling, because you know, I've been there before.
44:47I've been there too.
44:49And this is why I have to give this knowledge to you, because I've been there before.
44:54You may not have it 100% because in 2020, I thought my world was coming to an end.
45:01But I had beautiful, amazing people who were around me telling me who I am.
45:08Because I didn't know at the time.
45:10But they saw something in me.
45:12And they spoke beautiful things into me.
45:16And led me back into faith.
45:22And this is why I'm saying that whatever situation you're in today, trust and believe that it's no coincidence.
45:30It's no accident.
45:31Everything happens in life.
45:33The fact that you are listening to me speaking right here today, whether you've come across this live in the
45:39moment, whether it's six months or six years after the date this show has broadcasted.
45:46And it is not a coincidence that you are listening to what you're listening to here.
45:54Everything in life happens for a reason.
45:57This message is so that you can go ahead and make a change in your life if you choose to.
46:03Because this is a choice.
46:05You can either go left or you can go right.
46:07And that is one of the most difficult decisions that you will ever make.
46:15Left or right.
46:16Do I continue to do the old thing?
46:19Or do I want to go ahead and step into this new thing?
46:23The only competition that you have out there that's going to stop you from getting to the next level that
46:30is going to get in your way, the only person, is you.
46:39Nobody else can do it for you.
46:40Nobody else can change you.
46:42Nobody else can do anything.
46:43Just like you can't change anybody else, nobody else can change you except you.
46:54And even when I was at rock bottom, I was at my financial rock bottom at the lowest point.
47:01I told myself, you know what, we've been here before.
47:04This ain't the first time.
47:05This is not the first time we got out of debt and ended up getting back into it, getting into
47:10a relationship, racking up a credit card, doing stupid things just to try to make somebody else happy.
47:17Buying myself, you know, all of the clothes, jewelry, cars, this, that, the next, the other, thinking that those things
47:24were going to make me happy.
47:25Because I was unhappy and I was searching for this right here.
47:30I didn't know how to find him because I was too busy looking for him and everybody else.
47:39Because, if you're here, easier said than done, I know.
47:47Just don't give up.
47:49Just don't give up.
47:51And I want you to continue to mentally visualize yourself of where you'd like to be.
47:58You may not be here right today.
48:02But never give up on visually, mentally taking yourself there.
48:09And stay there.
48:11Stay there as long as you can.
48:14Write it down.
48:16Put it on your mirror so that when you get up in the morning, you can see it.
48:20Keep it in the car with you.
48:22Keep it in your ear.
48:27Beautiful, positive.
48:30Affirmations.
48:32Music.
48:33People.
48:35Podcasts.
48:38I don't know who I'm speaking to, but I'm only speaking from real life experiences.
48:43I've been there before.
48:45I've hit my financial rock bottom.
48:48And it is my life purpose to help people get up out of theirs.
48:57If there is anything, any single solitary thing that you've heard today that has sparked some sort of interest in
49:07you to say,
49:08I want to learn a little bit more about what he's speaking about when it comes to this debt for
49:11living.
49:12If that's you out there, do me a favor.
49:16Head on over to LarenGaines.com.
49:18Head over to LarenGaines.com.
49:20Sign up for that free 15-minute consultation.
49:25Go ahead and sign up for that consultation.
49:27We will have a one-on-one conversation to see if I'm a good fit for you, to see if
49:34my financial coaching method works best for you.
49:39Now, again, I am not for everybody and everybody is not for me.
49:45If you still want to swipe credit cards, if you still want to live beyond your means, if you still
49:52want to go and get personal loans and student loans and car loans and things of that nature,
49:59if you're still doing a buy now, pay later, listen, the list goes on and on and on.
50:06If that's you, then I will repeat that this is not the program for you.
50:12I am not the financial coach for you if those are the things that you love to do and you
50:16feel that you cannot shake free from it.
50:22But if you are someone out there that says, Laren, you know what?
50:25I have done these things.
50:27I am doing these things.
50:28If you, I have done it, but I don't want to do it anymore or I'm to the point where
50:35I want to cut up my credit cards.
50:37I'm over it.
50:38I'm ready to tell them to come pick up the car.
50:40They can have it.
50:42I'm ready to move and downsize and sell my house or move into a smaller place that makes sense for
50:52me when it comes to, you know, my finances.
50:58If that's the case, then this program might be for you.
51:03Head on over to LarenGaines.com.
51:05Sign up for that free 15-minute consultation.
51:07If you want to learn more and continue to go down this journey because this is only, we're just basically
51:15touching the surface here on a podcast.
51:20Behind the scenes, I have a financial strategy group.
51:25You can go ahead and DM me on Instagram.
51:29You basically can DM me from any platform, but you have to have Instagram in order to be a part
51:36of the financial strategy session, which I host it monthly.
51:41But I'm offering complimentary seats to my two-hour masterclass, The Spiritual Cost of Debt.
52:14Ladies and gentlemen, I know I've been going on and on and on and on.
52:18But we got to go ahead and get out of here.
52:21We have to go ahead and pay some bills.
52:23So I want to say thank you so much for joining.
52:26I appreciate you.
52:28And stay tuned.
52:30We have an awesome lineup this week.
52:32Very special thank you to all my guests out there who have, you know, come on.
52:37They're lined up.
52:39They're ready to go.
52:40We have some great interviews and great breakthroughs.
52:43And this was an amazing opening to a great week.
52:49So thank you all so much and have a good night.
52:54Take care now.
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