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DISC 6: Vitality
Track 46: The Side Hustle Cost Me My Marriage
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Song of The Day: "Another Relationship" by Syleena Johnson
Released 2005 | Chapter 3: The Flesh
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04:02So, grab your journal, open your mind, and prepare to go beyond the surface.
04:07Here, we don't just talk, we transform lives.
04:10And now, here's your guide through it all, entrepreneur, mentor, and financial coach, Laren Gaines.
04:28What's going on, what's going on?
04:31Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome on in to another episode of the 4-in-1 podcast.
04:38I have to tell you that I am so excited to be here, and I'm so thankful to be here.
04:45I have just this new energy about the movement of this show, and I most certainly could not do it
04:55without each and every one of you out there listening, people dropping in the comments.
05:03I mean, the list goes on and on, from the love on Facebook, from the love on Dailymotion.
05:12I just want to say thank you all so much, and the best thing that you can do is to
05:17share this podcast out.
05:19Please go ahead and share this with somebody, tag a friend, text a friend, do whatever you can do to
05:26help support this movement.
05:28And, of course, I most certainly could not do it without each and every one of you.
05:32I most certainly could not do it without my executive producer.
05:37I want to give a very special thank you to God for just allowing me to be here, giving me
05:43another day, giving me another opportunity to come out here and give you all the 4-in-1.
05:49I want to say what's up to SOS.
05:52I want to say what's up to Nene.
05:54I definitely enjoyed our conversation, and it was great catching up with you.
06:00I also want to give a very special thank you to my team, the people behind the scenes who helped
06:06me make this podcast what it is.
06:10I want to say a very special thank you to John.
06:14Thank you for all of just making us look fly out here.
06:18All of the graphics, I could not do that by myself.
06:23I want to thank the special guests who came through.
06:26I want to thank Mr. Saeed for hooking me up with these special guests.
06:31And there's so many new people that will be introduced to the podcast as well, people coming through.
06:41I want to say thank you to all of the platforms out there, the countries that we have started to
06:52touch base with.
06:56I can't even name them all.
06:57Let's just be honest.
06:59I can't name them all.
07:00The doors have opened, and this just gives me a clear indication of what, you know, next year is going
07:09to be like, which is going to be even bigger and better.
07:16The photographers, who definitely have helped with the project as well, I want to say thank you.
07:24This six could not be what it is without all of the, you know, the wonderful pictures and everything that
07:31was brought to the forefront to make this thing work.
07:35I want to thank my faith for supporting me as much as you possibly can.
07:40I know it's different.
07:42I know it might be a little strange, as God called it.
07:46You know, we are very peculiar individuals.
07:49So I know that it's not easy.
07:53So thank you to my family for supporting me during this process as well.
07:59And, yeah, I'm going to get off of that.
08:01I'm going to get off of that.
08:02I'm just thankful to be here.
08:05Thank you to the people who mentor me.
08:10You know, I'm a mentor, but listen, behind the scenes, I have conversations, and I look up to people, and
08:17I study, you know, behind the scenes.
08:20So thank you to the people who are content creators that I look up to, some of the greatest speakers
08:28out there in the world.
08:30Les Brown, amazing.
08:34Myron Golden, amazing.
08:37The Wall Street Trapper, amazing.
08:40You know, I have to give credit to the people that I looked up to, you know, in my young
08:48age.
08:50I have a radio show, I have a radio show, a podcast, and my voice is on places that I
08:59never thought that it would be.
09:01I'm thankful.
09:01I heart radio.
09:02I'm thankful.
09:04And I remember looking up to some of the greatest listening to them constantly.
09:11This is not something that happened overnight.
09:13I love talk radio.
09:16I'm going to take it back to, you know, my roots here in New Jersey.
09:20I would listen to New Jersey 101.5, day in and day out.
09:24Dennis and Judy, I understood the art of what it is, the radio show.
09:31Steve Harvey, I listened to his morning show for decades.
09:35And, you know, that's where some of the burning questions, you know, came from.
09:44Wendy Williams, the queen, you know, you know, I just enjoyed, you know, her art of radio.
09:55I've studied so many people and I had no idea that this was going to become what it is.
10:03And we are just getting started.
10:05And, again, without all of the people out there, it wouldn't have been a special thank you to Mary J.
10:2035 years for What's the 4-in-1 album.
10:24And, you know, my creativity was born around that era when I was around 11 years old.
10:33And it hasn't stopped since.
10:36So I'm just in a thankful mode.
10:39And we hear episode 46, 46 episodes.
10:44We have been doing our thing this year.
10:47And I got some surprises for next year, too, that is just going to take us to a whole nother
10:53level.
10:54But we are on episode 46, The Side Hustle Costs Me My Marriage.
10:59Ladies and gentlemen, this is going to be a deep one.
11:01And so buckle up, get ready, because we're getting ready to go on a ride.
11:05And for those of you out there that got side hustles, people who are married, thinking about getting married, engaged,
11:10and all of this other extra stuff, you might want to tune in.
11:15So y'all ready to do this?
11:17Let's go ahead and get right on into this song of the day.
11:32Another Relationship.
11:34Yes, that's right.
11:36I said it.
11:37Another Relationship by Selena Johnson, released in 2005 off of her album Chapter 3, The Flesh.
11:45Speaking of the Flesh, see, that's it right there.
11:51That's what will get you in trouble when you are so focused on the flesh and you end up getting
11:58wrapped up and you end up getting trapped up into certain situations because you weren't coming from the spiritual realm.
12:06You were too focused on the worldly realm.
12:10You were caught up in the world.
12:13You were too focused on the outer appearance.
12:16See, God judges man by the inner appearance, but men, man, what we do is we focus on the outer
12:24appearance.
12:25You want to see how well he or she looks.
12:28You want to see what they can do.
12:30It is so interesting.
12:32I was just scrolling through social media before I decided to come out here and somebody is sitting here posting
12:40things talking about, I have so many people that I can get wrapped up and trapped up with.
12:46You know, of course, I'm remixing it.
12:48I have so many people that I can get wrapped up and trapped up with, but the one that I'm
12:53going to choose is the one that is going to pay my rent.
12:58See, before we decide to get wrapped up and trapped up, we need to make sure that the person we
13:04are saying that we are going to commit ourselves to, saying that we are going to put ourselves out on
13:10the line, saying I do, all of these things, did you study the person?
13:16And most importantly, did they study you?
13:20And are you willing to take on that responsibility?
13:23Because when you get wrapped up and you get trapped up, it's either going to be one or two things.
13:28Either that relationship, that situation, that person is going to either be an asset or it's going to be a
13:36liability in your life.
13:38And trust and believe, ladies and gentlemen, and I'll say that again, trust and believe that the minute that you
13:44say I do, your life will never be the same.
13:47And for the single people out there, for the people who don't have children, did not start a family, you
13:53might be thinking about it.
13:54The minute that you decide to lay down and have a child with somebody else, I don't care whether it's
14:00the man or the woman, your life as you see it here today will never be the same.
14:10Now, let's get back on track here.
14:13Song of the day, another relationship.
14:15Before you got wrapped up and before you got trapped up into this situation, did you pick the right person?
14:21Because is this person going to get jealous because you want to go ahead and level up?
14:26Is this person going to get jealous of you and your new career path?
14:31Is this person going to get or feel a certain way because you're not spending that much time with them?
14:38Because they're looking at that career as another relationship.
14:42Meanwhile, the relationship is taking care of you and them plus them.
14:48Is this person going to feel a certain way because you decide to better yourself and go back to school?
14:56See, there's so many terms and songs and hip-hop and R&B that say you have to be a
15:02ride or die, meaning that you are going to rock with me until the wheels fall off.
15:06I'm not here to keep you along, but this is important.
15:10Did you pick the right person?
15:12See, I had a mentor tell me,
15:15Laren, you ain't got to worry because after all of the stuff that you've been through, you're going to know
15:19how to pick them today.
15:20See, I don't know who I'm speaking to.
15:22I'm only speaking from real life experiences, but yeah, there was a point in my life where I didn't know
15:26how to pick anything.
15:29I didn't even know how to pick and choose myself.
15:34Is that person going to feel a certain way when you decide to level up?
15:38Is there going to be some sort of competition or are you going to be that true ride or die
15:43that is rock with me whether I have something or I don't have something?
15:47And if I don't have something, are we going to level up together and are you going to be right
15:50by my side?
15:51See, there is no walking in front and you walk behind.
15:55You have to walk side by side because that's what happens when two become one.
16:00But most of the time, we get wrapped up and trapped up into these situations and relationships with the wrong
16:06type of person because we are unevenly yoked.
16:12Song of the day.
16:13Another relationship.
16:14Selena Johnson.
16:15Off of her album, The Flesh.
16:18Let's not get caught up in the flesh today, people.
16:21Released in 2005.
16:23Let's go.
16:24Let's go.
16:33I could have went on and on and on, but I decided to pull up a little bit because, yeah,
16:39this is going to be a good show tonight.
16:41Speaking about people who want to be entrepreneurs, people who want to better themselves.
16:47Is it good when you're an entrepreneur?
16:50Listen, I'm coming from the same situation.
16:51So I understand when you have to have a good work life balance.
16:54And I'm focusing on that today because I can get caught up because it's the passion and it's the love
17:01of what I am doing.
17:04And most entrepreneurs, when you birth something, that is your child, that's your baby.
17:09You are passionate about it.
17:11You love to do it.
17:13And sometimes you lose track of time and you want to make sure that you have somebody who is supportive,
17:19caring, understanding.
17:21Wow.
17:22Anyway, like I said, I can go in, but I'm going to pull up a little bit.
17:28Let's go ahead and reach out to my friend of the show, family.
17:32Could not do it without him.
17:35Author, poet, Burman 313.
17:52What's going on?
17:53What's going on?
17:55Hey, how's it going?
17:57It's going good.
17:58It's going good.
17:59Weather is treating me good here.
18:01How about you?
18:02That's good.
18:03It's going good, man.
18:04Just staying, just staying cool.
18:08That's it.
18:09Are you bringing that good heat down here?
18:12Because we could heat up a little bit.
18:14Man.
18:15Hey, I surely hope so real soon.
18:19Man, it's been so hot.
18:20I go outside.
18:22The only time I go outside is if I have to.
18:26Okay, so that's what they, you know, they're actually telling those who, like myself, sign, you know, they have allergy,
18:34sinus problems, you know, or any other health issues, you know, go out if you have to.
18:42Because it's just this heat with the Sahara dust is not making it very pleasant.
18:49So hot is it over there?
18:53Right now, it's, you know, they say it's 97, but they say with the heat index, it's like 103.
18:59And it's been like that all week.
19:02And it's going to be like that the rest of the week.
19:04Like I said, you know, this is something, you know, that's going to go on to at least, you know,
19:12at least September, October.
19:15It lasts that one.
19:17Yeah.
19:17That is.
19:18And August, August is hotter than July.
19:21And we've been like, you know, with the heat index, we've been hitting 100 almost every day.
19:27So you can imagine what it's like.
19:31It can be very uncomfortable, you know.
19:34Don't get me wrong.
19:35I enjoy the heat, but sometimes it just can make things very, very uneasy.
19:43Yeah, yeah.
19:44And you say in September is hot, too.
19:46So what are the temps like in September?
19:49Uh, same way, you know, it gets in the 90s, you know, constantly.
19:53The heat, the heat index is not, not really that bad.
19:58But, you know, you can still, you know, you, you, it's something that you can bear a little bit better
20:03than you can like right now.
20:05And, you know, you got the storms coming in.
20:08We, you know, had that one storm, which all we got was a bunch of rain, you know, and lost
20:15power, you know, a couple of times for, you know,
20:18just a few minutes, but, you know, we, we get that flooding and, um, you know, August is going to
20:26be, you know, it's just going to be constantly hot and muggy.
20:31And, you know, hey, this is a time when, like I said, man, I got all my shorts out and
20:36laid out, man, because, uh, wearing long pants is not comfortable.
20:41Yeah, no, that's craziness.
20:42I don't understand that.
20:44Mm-mm, I ain't doing that.
20:45I'll tell you, I saw some craziness in, in, in, in Vegas, people wearing long shorts and sweatpants and stuff
20:53like that.
20:53I was like, that's crazy.
20:56But, you know what, it's because they're, they're, they're used to that though.
20:59Cause at nighttime, now it cools off in Vegas.
21:03Nighttime, it gets cool.
21:06I didn't experience it when I was there and I'm glad because it was at least 80 at night and
21:11it stayed that way.
21:13Okay with that.
21:13But, uh, okay.
21:15Now, now, now I've been there in December and I don't know what, what was worse, Jersey or Vegas at
21:23that time.
21:23But I'll tell you, I won't do that again.
21:26Yes.
21:30No, that's, that's just how it is out that way.
21:34And I, I know for sure in the desert, it gets cold at night cause I've had, well, what you
21:40can't, you know,
21:41you're not allowed to be in the desert to after a certain time, you know, you got to get out
21:47the desert.
21:48Yeah.
21:49And I'll tell you, no, I, I was in, um, Arizona too, in January.
21:57And I was quite, quite, um, intrigued by that temperature first thing in the morning.
22:03Now heated up towards the afternoon.
22:06But first thing in the morning, I was like, nah, I'm good.
22:08And I'll wait till, I'll wait till the sun comes up.
22:13Well, you know, we're here, you know, like here in the mornings, it's, it's in the eighties.
22:18You know, like I said, you, you can step outside at seven or eight o'clock in the morning.
22:24And it's like 80 easily.
22:27That's what's up.
22:28And then by the, you know, then it goes up, it goes up, you know, then it's a point a
22:33day where it's, it's a steady hundred.
22:37And then it may cool off maybe a little.
22:42That's why, you know, I love going to the beach, man, because being on the beach, it can, it can
22:49be a hundred, man.
22:51And with that, with the waves and that wind blowing, you can't even feel it.
22:57That's what's up.
22:58That sounds good.
22:59I don't, I don't know why I get caught up in the weather.
23:02I swear, like, you know what?
23:05In my past life, I must've been a weatherman or something.
23:07I don't understand it.
23:08I don't get it.
23:10I don't get it.
23:12I don't know.
23:15So.
23:17We here.
23:18Are you ready to get into the money hacks?
23:23What, what number you got?
23:25Oh, let me see.
23:2777.
23:30That's a good number.
23:31Good number.
23:32Let's see what we got here.
23:36We've kind of been down this journey before, but let's, let's, let's do this again real quick.
23:43We talking about.
23:45Real estate.
23:47So any real estate agent you are considering should base their suggested list price on a
23:53thorough market analysis that reflects current trends.
23:56This analysis should be part of every agent's pitch to you before you sign a leasing agreement.
24:03Do not accept a verbal pitch.
24:05You want to see in writing what the agent is using to determine the list price.
24:09It should reflect sales in your neighborhood, ideally your street, if possible.
24:13That have occurred in the past month or two.
24:17The older the comp, the more you need to know about the current trend and whether homes are
24:24selling faster or slower and whether the sales price is trending higher or lower relative to the list price.
24:32That gives you an important sense of momentum in your market.
24:38I don't have much to say about this here because when it comes to selling and buying homes, all of
24:45that process there.
24:48I'm around.
24:50I'll make sure that I'm prepared for it.
24:52The first time I didn't know what I was doing.
24:54And when I was selling my home, I didn't know what I was doing.
24:57I was just thankful to get the hell up out of there.
25:01So, Burb, I don't know what you have to say about it.
25:10I don't have anything because I've always rented.
25:16You know, so and don't get me wrong.
25:19I did try to get homes in the past and it was always a roadblock.
25:26And, you know, I really say, you know, that was a blessing.
25:30That was truly a blessing that them roadblocks was there because I probably, you know, I ain't no problem to
25:38it.
25:38The way things went during my life, I'd have lost both of them.
25:43Both of them, not because I did anything wrong, but just because of the situations I was in.
25:51So, you know, I don't have, it's nothing much I can say because I never bought a home.
25:58I never sold a home.
26:00So, there you go.
26:02And I'll tell you this, it is stressful either way, especially when you don't know what you're doing.
26:07And just like I read, you know, you got to make sure that it's written and not verbal and the
26:13pitch and all this other stuff.
26:14I ain't know nothing about any of that stuff and very stressful.
26:17And I'll tell you that if your health ain't on point, it could take you out.
26:22And either way, people get crazy over trying to buy a house and they get crazy over trying to sell
26:27a house.
26:28And what I have to say today is absolutely not.
26:31We're not playing that game today like that.
26:33I will be prepared and on point going forward.
26:40So, we are headed to Portland, Oregon.
26:44I've never been to Oregon.
26:44You ever been there?
26:46Yeah, I've been there.
26:47When I was working, I used to do – oh, my God.
26:55You got me down, man.
26:56But we used to go, you know, like when storms came through and, you know, didn't repair like floods, especially
27:04floods, hurricane.
27:06I did that, you know, where we would go and clean up.
27:11I didn't stay long there, but, you know, it was a couple days.
27:17You know, got in, got out, and, hey, never got a chance to see any of the cities.
27:23Yeah, I don't know nothing about it, but it don't sound like it's too exciting in Oregon.
27:28But maybe it is.
27:29Well, I know now they say that, you know, at least Portland is one of the worst homeless cities.
27:37It's where – and when they say it's worse than San Francisco and L.A., I definitely don't want to
27:44go because I've seen both of their – you know, how it is there.
27:48But, yeah, that's what I've been hearing.
27:52Interesting.
27:53Well, we are going to Portland, Oregon, and Marcus says,
28:25But something else was disappearing.
28:28Me.
28:29One Friday night, my wife asked if I'd be home for dinner.
28:32I told her I had three more rides to finish because there was a concert downtown and surge pricing was
28:39too good to pass up.
28:40She didn't argue.
28:42She just said okay.
28:44Looking back, that okay wasn't agreement.
28:47It was resignation.
28:49A few months later, my 10-year-old son asked me if I was working again that weekend.
28:53Before I could answer, he says, I already know.
28:57That hurt me more than I expected.
29:00Last fall, my wife asked for a separation.
29:03She said something I'll never forget.
29:05You gave us everything we asked for except yourself.
29:09I was speechless.
29:10I had become so focused on providing financially that I stopped being emotionally present.
29:16I thought success meant earning more.
29:18I never stopped to ask whether the people I love needed more money or more of me.
29:24We're in counseling now.
29:25The business is still operating, but boundaries.
29:29These belong to the family.
29:32Dinner happens at the table instead of through text messages.
29:35I'm still rebuilding trust.
29:37My question is this.
29:39How do you pursue financial goals without allowing them to quietly replace the life those goals were supposed to support?
29:47What do you have for Mr. Marcus?
29:50You know, there's so many people I know that went down this road, and I've always said, you've got to
30:02make time for everything.
30:04It kind of made me think about, you know, my marriage.
30:10My marriage is my marriage, and I tried to, you never, you know, for whatever reason, the person that I
30:19chose was never happy with how I spent my time.
30:24And with him, he's saying that I think he was just doing a little bit over, you know, trying to
30:31do three jobs.
30:32And he's telling her it's for us.
30:37But then again, she's not seeing that because he's always busy.
30:43And then, you know, you got a son that comes up and asks you, and then he said, I already
30:49know the answer.
30:52And that's what made me stop doing one of my jobs because my son was growing up, going to high
30:57school, playing sports.
31:00And I know one time I had to go out of town.
31:04He said, he said, I understand, Dad.
31:06No, go, I understand.
31:08Everything be all right.
31:09And when I got back, some of the coaches was like, oh, man, he said, you missed what your son
31:16did.
31:17And I'm all, yeah, they said, yeah.
31:19He set a school record for the longest touchdown for his class, that class.
31:25And I'm like, really?
31:26They said, yeah, I said, he got 100 yards on a pass.
31:30And that there, right there, I said, man, you know what?
31:33I'm done doing restoration work.
31:37That right there.
31:38And I start spending more time with him, which I always did because he always said, he said, Dad, I
31:45understand.
31:46He said, you're trying to make money to make it better for us around here so we can move out
31:51of these apartments and possibly move into a home.
31:54I'm like, yeah, OK.
31:56He had that.
31:56He had that understanding because I talked to him about it.
31:59To me, I don't think this guy was really talking to his family the way he should have been explaining
32:06to him the reason why I'm working all of this.
32:13And I'm like, OK, so when you and her first got together, you weren't doing all of this.
32:22Now you started doing it, but you're not explaining to her the very reasons why you're doing this.
32:32Yeah, I think there's some missing pieces here.
32:36Like you said, there are either no explanation or there's no buy in on her part.
32:40And I want to take it back to where he says, I'm doing it for us.
32:45Well, that's one thing.
32:46And I commend you for saying that you told her that you were doing it for us.
32:49But to the missus in this situation, are you doing it for y'all, too?
32:55Are you doing it for us?
32:56Because where is that ride or die factor coming?
32:59Where is your support?
33:00I didn't hear anything about doing no ride shares, Uber and Lyft and all this other stuff to help the
33:08lawn service, too.
33:09I didn't hear anything about her working on Saturdays, doing an office paperwork.
33:14This is what I talk about when I say you have to make sure that you are with the right
33:18person.
33:19I don't know what this dynamic is.
33:21I don't know what this relationship is like, but it seems like he's running this business by himself.
33:26Now, unfortunately, when you are in a marriage, whether it's fortunately or unfortunately, in his case, it might be unfortunate.
33:33But that is the first business.
33:36You got to clear that first business.
33:38So, like you said, Birdman, communication, explanation, like y'all needed to have a board meeting and make sure that
33:45this was good, like with this business.
33:49Exactly.
33:51That's what I'm talking about.
33:53Because, I mean, I have friends who have worked like this, but their wives understand what they're doing, and, you
34:04know, they're doing their part, too.
34:06I have a friend, and, you know, he does what he does, and his wife does hair, you know, to
34:14help out.
34:15And then they take time off, and, man, they go to Vegas.
34:21They travel together.
34:23He makes that time.
34:25And, you know, that's the thing you have to do.
34:30And I've always done that.
34:31I mean, I was like, okay, it's time to take a break.
34:34Hey, let's go to the beach this weekend.
34:37Or let's go visit some family friends in Mississippi or, you know, wherever.
34:44Or, you know, just something with the family.
34:48Have some family time.
34:49Because when you don't have family time, everybody, especially, you know, if you ain't spending time with the wife, she's
34:56going to think, okay, well, you ain't spending time with me.
34:58You're spending time somewhere else.
35:02Is she jealous of the joke that this lawn service business is another relationship?
35:07And here's the thing.
35:09I'm taking Marcus's side because if she did her part and stopped acting crazy thinking it's another relationship and being
35:17jealous, she could help him with certain things, which could get him to free up some of his time.
35:22And then he would have more time with the family.
35:26Now, he's trying to pay off the house, debt.
35:29Things are getting good.
35:30Debt is shrinking.
35:32And then homegirl just want to black out and get crazy.
35:36Yeah.
35:37But I'm curious.
35:38How did you get in debt?
35:41You know, we talk about this every week about being in debt.
35:49So evidently, something had to happen for you to be in debt.
35:54You know, when people start these businesses, they go into debt to start a business, which is no good.
36:01Right.
36:02They hear these stories.
36:03Oh, I just went and got a credit card and I blacked out and I purchased stuff and started a
36:09business off of a credit card.
36:11Sometimes that happens, but yeah, more so it doesn't.
36:15But you're absolutely right.
36:17How did you get into debt?
36:18I heard that you were paying off a house.
36:21I'm sure that had something to do with it.
36:22I don't know if there's any student loan debt or anything or credit cards.
36:27But yeah, well, if he got a lawn service, that can be too, because of the fact is you got
36:37to have the right equipment to do your yards.
36:41Right.
36:42You know, I mean, you have to have a riding lawn.
36:48Most most lawn services company, I know one day at least got one riding lawn mower.
36:55They got a blower.
36:55They got an edger.
36:57You he got all of these things.
37:00And some people when people, you know, the funny thing is people think it's easy to start a business, but
37:07it's not because you have to sit down and you you have to plan first before you jump out there
37:14and say, oh, I'm going to start this business.
37:16Because if you don't plan, you're going to be ready.
37:18Like the situation he's in, that's what you're going to be in.
37:23Yeah.
37:23Yeah.
37:23Count up the cost.
37:26That's in in Luke.
37:29I don't know the right scripture.
37:31I can't recite it, but basically you'll be foolish if you decide to start something without counting up the cost
37:39to build a home because you don't even know if you have enough material to finish it.
37:44Exactly.
37:46And that's that's that that happens.
37:48That happens a lot.
37:50Man, you see a lot of these you'd be asking, oh, why this building here ain't finished?
37:55Hey, yeah.
37:56Guarantee you.
37:58Yeah.
37:59It's something, you know, it's financial.
38:01I remember I know I'm getting kind of getting off, but I remember when Maxwell was coming out with one
38:07of his albums or album CD.
38:10See, I'm going to say CD.
38:11And I used to go to the I used to go to the radio.
38:14Hey, man, when it's coming out, when it's coming out.
38:17And the guy said, oh, man, he said the money that they gave him.
38:21A lot of people don't realize that when you get off in the music, they loan you the money.
38:26Man, you got to pay that money back.
38:28Absolutely.
38:28Yeah.
38:29You know, and and excuse me, then whatever.
38:33Once you pay that money back, whatever else come in is yours.
38:37Well, he he said he overspent.
38:41So he's trying to he trying to scrap up to get this music out.
38:47And I've heard that about other artists.
38:50They said, hey, man, I thought they had a release date.
38:53Well, they did.
38:55But, you know, they have some some setback.
38:58It's setback is the money part.
39:01Hmm.
39:02Because they didn't have enough money to finish it.
39:05A lot of people don't because I know, man, I've worked with guys.
39:08Oh, man, be a rapper, blah, blah, blah.
39:10And this one guy, you know, me and him, we was cool.
39:13I was going to make some apps for him.
39:16He was a DJ.
39:17And he said, hey, little brother.
39:19He said, he said, you want to be a rapper, huh?
39:22He said, yeah.
39:22He said, do you have a plan?
39:24And the kid looked at the young guy, looked at him and said, huh?
39:27What you mean?
39:28I don't need no plan.
39:29He said, yes, you do.
39:30He said, because what's going to end up happening is he said, man, you need to read about a whole
39:35lot of these these artists that don't get paid.
39:39They go and perform and they don't get paid.
39:42Well, that's the same way with a business where I worked for a cabinet company one time to
39:48get up to change this, change it.
39:49I worked for a cabinet company.
39:51The guy was he was bidding on jobs.
39:54Well, guess what?
39:55He overbid and we was working on the laboratory at the University of Houston and the University
40:01of Rice.
40:03We were putting it on.
40:05Hey, they kicked us out.
40:07And, you know, they said, yeah.
40:09And they said, well, hey, y'all don't have enough workers to finish this job when you're
40:15supposed to.
40:17Hey, the dude folded and he had, you know, I didn't I wasn't aware of.
40:21I thought he had been in business for a while.
40:24Hey, man, it was in the first it was in the first year.
40:28The company lasted eight months.
40:31Wow.
40:32Eight months.
40:33And, you know, it's because he was he was just.
40:39He wanted a business and but he didn't sit down and plan it.
40:45Yeah.
40:46Or understand what it all took.
40:48I get it.
40:49Yeah, I get it.
40:51And that sounds like like you said, OK, the question is, I didn't really want to bring
40:57it up.
40:57But, yeah, what is she doing?
41:03I don't know.
41:05Not.
41:06What is she?
41:08You know, that was my question.
41:10That's, you know, because when I read, I'm like, OK, I understand you, bro.
41:13You're working all these jobs.
41:15But what what is is she doing?
41:19Yeah.
41:19Do she have a job?
41:20Like don't seem like she's helping.
41:23All she doing is she, you know, that lip service.
41:26That's it.
41:27Well, you know.
41:28And, you know, you get tired of hearing that, man.
41:31And I'm like, dude, he's like she called me.
41:34And, you know, I told her I had three more pickups.
41:37And I'm like, OK, then I but I was like saying also if I was I would tell him, man,
41:43let that rise service go.
41:46You know, you know.
41:47Hey, you.
41:48Huh?
41:49Go ahead.
41:49You know, they they say that that is the easiest way to make a lot of money is by Uber
41:55and
41:55and Lyft and and all that stuff.
41:57That's what they say.
41:58I've heard just the opposite.
42:00Yeah.
42:01I've heard.
42:02Yeah.
42:02I've heard just the opposite that they don't make.
42:05Because I had a friend.
42:06I had.
42:07Well, I have a bunch of friends that, you know, got jumped off into that and they jumped out.
42:14Oh, I have a comedian friend out there in L.A. right now.
42:19And he I remember was talking with him and I said, hey, man, what you doing?
42:25He said, I'm doing I'm doing on Uber.
42:28I said, how's it going?
42:29He said, man, I'm getting ready to get out of Uber.
42:32I said, well, how long you been?
42:33How long you been in it?
42:35He said, I think he said he had been in Uber for like two months.
42:38I'm like, you ain't gave it a chance.
42:41And then I have a friend here.
42:44He was doing he was driving for Lyft.
42:47And he said, bro, he said, it ain't like what you think it is.
42:51He was there for four months.
42:53He said, man, skip, skip it.
42:56I'm not doing it.
42:57And I've heard a lot of the drivers that I've, you know, rode with.
43:03They all say, it's all right, man.
43:05You know, it's all right.
43:06But I'm not going to be doing this for long.
43:10One of the musicians, she's a female musician out there in L.A.
43:16And that's how I met her.
43:19And she was like, I said, I thought you was doing Lyft.
43:23She said, yeah, so did I.
43:26Just like that.
43:27I'm like, oh, OK.
43:29You know, so did I, you know.
43:31And I was like, OK, then, you know.
43:35And then we was on a program together.
43:38And I told people how I met her.
43:41And one of the comedians, oh, bro, I don't put a business out there like that.
43:46I'm like, what?
43:46She was driving Lyft.
43:47She was making her some money.
43:49What's the big old deal?
43:51And he started out.
43:52He said, oh, man, I'm just messing with y'all, man.
43:54He said, it's crazy how you know her.
44:00And then, you know, how we met.
44:03And I'm like, yeah.
44:03And she said, yeah, she didn't do it no more.
44:07Because one, it's the people, some of the people they pick up, too.
44:11Yeah, that's one of the main reasons why I couldn't do it.
44:14Because I don't want all them people.
44:16You can't be touching stuff, messing stuff up, and being all over the place.
44:22Nah, I'm good, bro.
44:24Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
44:26I'll be looking at my own family members in my car like.
44:35Man, you sound like my dad now.
44:37And, you know, I get that from my dad, too.
44:40Because he was like that.
44:42You couldn't do anything.
44:43He got crazy over his car.
44:45I'm not like that.
44:47Yeah, yeah, yeah.
44:49Hey, let me tell you something, man.
44:50I know my uncle was getting in the car one time.
44:53And my dad said, oh, knock the dirt off your shoe.
44:55My uncle looked at him.
44:57He looked at him.
44:58And he was like, okay, then.
45:01So when he got out and dad pulled off, you know, I came over there.
45:05He said, man, how you put up with that man all these years?
45:09I said, hey, man, he my dad.
45:10He said, you know what?
45:12He said, he ain't got to ever worry about me asking him.
45:16He said, I'll walk before I ask him.
45:18I said, is that bad?
45:20He said, hey, he said, I don't have to tell you.
45:23You already know that.
45:25Exactly.
45:26Exactly.
45:27Yeah.
45:28Yeah.
45:29Yeah, my dad.
45:30Yeah, man.
45:30He was, oh, man.
45:32So I remember one of the stories, my aunt, right?
45:36She said, he wouldn't even take us down south.
45:40I said, well, he was going down there too, wasn't he?
45:42Yeah.
45:43And this is what she said.
45:45I hope you're listening because I know you remember this conversation.
45:49I hope my aunt is listening because she listened to the show.
45:52But she said, your dad said that he didn't want me and I forgot what other family member
45:58it was to get in the back of his car because we were too heavy and it was too much
46:01weight
46:02to carry off from Jersey all the way down south.
46:09He said that they was too heavy.
46:11I said, oh, you're doing too much, man.
46:14You're doing too much.
46:15Yes.
46:16Yes.
46:17That's cold there.
46:18Something would have happened to his tires or something.
46:21Um, this dude.
46:23Oh, man.
46:25Yeah.
46:26I, you know, and I, I, I can, I can, I can believe that man.
46:29I can believe that.
46:30You know?
46:33Oh my goodness.
46:35All right.
46:35So I think we helped out Mr. Marcus here.
46:38Um, I don't know.
46:41I don't actually know if we did.
46:42It is what it is.
46:43All I have to say is people out there before you get into these relationships, just know
46:48who you're marrying.
46:50And some people say, Laren, what do you mean by that?
46:52Because sometimes you'll never know the person that you marry.
46:55Well, in that case, then I ain't going to say it.
46:58Cause y'all going to say I'm being a certain way, but you know what I was about to say.
47:02You know what, man?
47:03I will, I will agree with you on that.
47:06I thought I knew, but I didn't know.
47:10And man, you know what?
47:12That's why I said when you, when people ask me, what was, what is my regrets?
47:16And sometimes I, sometimes I had to think, I said, man, I gotta, I gotta get off of that.
47:21Y'all need to quit asking me this question.
47:23And what is my, what is my regret?
47:25Cause I'm going to tell you the same thing over and over.
47:28It's getting married.
47:30That was, that was it, man.
47:33And you know, and I, I didn't realize, you know, what all came with it.
47:40And man, I, I, like I said, man, I worked one and two jobs and it still couldn't satisfy her.
47:45So, well, you know, I, I thought about my life and I said, well, if I didn't do some of
47:51the things that I did, I wouldn't be here today.
47:53So that's one of the main things that keeps me, you know, on point and, and staying toward in the
48:02present moment and looking towards the future.
48:04Because when I look at the past, I'm like, okay, without all of that stuff, I would not be who
48:14I am here today.
48:14And right now is the most important part, you know, where I'm at right now.
48:19So, but, you know, I don't, I don't, I don't say sometimes I say, but I would, I, when I'm
48:26doing writing, I was doing that anyway.
48:30So therefore, you know, you know, it, it, it did.
48:34Yeah.
48:34It added on to the story, you know, some of my poems, you know, but other than that, man, you
48:43know,
48:43I really could have did without it.
48:47That's right.
48:49All right.
48:50We, we up against the clock.
48:51We got to get on up out of here.
48:52If you want to let us know real quick where we can go ahead and find you at this week.
48:59Yeah.
48:59And my books are on Amazon and at Goodreads, Birdman313.
49:06And you can go on YouTube.
49:10I'm doing videos and I'm posting videos weekly now for a little bit.
49:18Uh, YouTube.com slash author, poet, Birdman31355.
49:25You can find me on Instagram where I'm posting, um, poems, videos, and pictures.
49:32Um, Birdman31355.
49:35Um, you can go to Spotify and, uh, coffee, wine, and words, Birdman31355.
49:44And, um, I'm not, I really, this, this month here, I've really laxed off.
49:51I've taken a break from doing any open mics.
49:53I think I've done one this month.
49:56I think.
49:57I can't even remember.
49:58That's how, you know, and I've just taken a break and I guess I, you know, the month of August,
50:05I'll crank it back up and I'll start doing some readings then.
50:09I do something.
50:10You know what, a lot of facts, Sunday, if I do anything, it's, I forgot August, August is, start Saturday.
50:18So, um, Sunday, I will be at, um, we'll be doing, um, it'll be on Zoom out of Austin.
50:25It's called The Lion and the Pirate.
50:28And it's for disability service.
50:31They, you know, they have people that have disabilities.
50:34So, um, I've, I've been doing poetry for them for like 10 years.
50:41You know, I've been featured on there.
50:44Um, so, you know, I, I, I go to some of their live events.
50:50They have a radio station.
50:52I've been on that.
50:53So, you know, it's, it's cause I'm, I, I enjoy being around people that I guess you could say they
51:06can't go nowhere.
51:07You know what I mean?
51:08It's, it's, they can't travel.
51:09So when I read my poems and a lot of them say, oh man, I was right there.
51:16And that makes good that I, I, you know, can make, make them feel good because, you know, a lot
51:21of them is in wheelchairs.
51:23Or they don't walk up.
51:24And, and, and yeah, and they got to catch that.
51:26And, you know, like when we have a live thing, we got, they got to catch a ride there, but
51:31they don't, they don't be on the radio, but they be listening on the radio.
51:35Mm-hmm.
51:36I got you.
51:37Mm-hmm.
51:37Yes.
51:38Yes.
51:38That's good.
51:39That's good.
51:40Yeah.
51:41That makes me feel good.
51:42I'm doing something good.
51:44Absolutely.
51:48All right.
51:48All right.
51:49It's time to get on up out of here.
51:51Thank you so much.
51:53Could not do it without you.
51:54And most certainly we'll see you next time around.
51:59Oh, yeah.
52:00You take care, man.
52:01Enjoy your weekend.
52:02You too.
52:03Take care now.
52:04Yes.
52:05Okay.
52:07All right, gentlemen.
52:09Have it.
52:09That was author Paul Birdman.
52:11Three, one.
52:12Three.
52:20We have done so many great episodes and you should be seeing a new live version show up somewhere or
52:31you probably already saw it by the time you listen to this.
52:33So, in any case, I forgot that we are behind a little bit.
52:38So, but in any case, several different podcasts.
52:41This is a journey.
52:43This season has been great.
52:44So, please go ahead and check out multiple episodes wherever you listen to your podcast.
52:51And, again, special shout out to everybody out there on Daily Motion.
52:57I want to say what's up to people on Facebook X.
53:01Thank you all so much.
53:03I appreciate it.
53:04Instagram.
53:05To my Instagram family, where it all started six years ago.
53:09We are coming up on the six-year anniversary for the 4-in-1 podcast.
53:14So, I definitely will have a lot of special guests come in that day.
53:18You know how we do.
53:19So, I have a bunch of friends coming through.
53:22And we're going to have some fun as well.
53:25So, yeah, celebrating six years of the 4-in-1 podcast.
53:29So, on that note, I want to say thank you all so much for joining in.
53:32If there is something that you heard that sparked an interest, people want to get it together financially when it
53:38comes to that debt-free living.
53:39If you've hit your financial rock bottom and you just want to learn and do something different, head on over
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53:47You can sign up for that free 15-minute consultation.
53:51Next message.
53:56This has been a beautiful episode, ladies and gentlemen.
54:04Thank you all so much.
54:05I told you that it was going to be a great one.
54:07And I will see you when I see you.
54:10Take care, y'all.
54:11Have a good night.
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