00:00But they're looking at penalties basically for tampering, pulling guys outside of the window, if you will, and what they're
00:08going to do.
00:08And I'm curious about the enforceability of this. I appreciate the NCAA trying to take a stand and we'll see
00:13what happens.
00:14But with this, we talked about head coaches getting prohibited from any type of football activity for the first six
00:21games.
00:21So this isn't pick your suspension and you can coach during the week.
00:25Potential fines of up to 20% of a school's annual football budget, which you start looking at that, holy
00:31smokes, Bill.
00:32I mean, that could be, you know, some places $10 to $20 million and then potentially cutting the rosters by
00:38five spots for the following season.
00:40Like, it seems like they're trying to put a little bit of teeth in this thing.
00:43And I'm not sure where they should penalize the most.
00:46You know, some would say, OK, give them hefty fines.
00:49Some would say suspend the player. I think you go after the coach.
00:52You do like. So let's say that the couple of weeks ago when Dabo Sweeney went after Pete Golding and
00:59pulled up the receipts, as the phrase goes.
01:01If it's proven and taken to the NCAA, then I think you suspend Pete Golding for a couple of games.
01:08That would stop it. So who's to say, OK, they'll go to an assistant coach or some staffer and have
01:13them do it.
01:14So they get suspended. No, it still falls on the head coach.
01:17So when head coaches start missing football games, then I think the tampering piece of this ends.
01:23Now, how do you enforce that and police that in a world where you can send a message through?
01:28I don't even know how many types of media that you could go through to do it.
01:33That would be very difficult to prove. So I think that's one way to do it.
01:37But I totally agree. Tampering should be punished.
01:40You know, it once a player's on a roster and under contract, which I know we're going to talk about
01:45next with Cincinnati, they should be under contract.
01:49Yeah, absolutely. I agree, because I feel like there's been tons of times where these programs get in trouble.
01:54And then instead of having the head coach take accountability for it, they've got these lower level kind of guys
01:59that end up taking like falling on the sword for them.
02:01And then at the end of the day, it just kind of gets washed over to the side.
02:04No one really cares about it anymore.
02:05So, yeah, if you do put that punishment on the head coach, like the dude that's leading this team, leading
02:09the program at the end of the day,
02:11that's going to have like major changes where they actually like fix the problem at hand.
02:15For sure. And then, like we said, like so now the other piece of this is and Bobby and I
02:21were talking about before we came on,
02:22Brendan Storesby in Cincinnati, where now you have a contract issue and a contract dispute for how much of this
02:27money is going to get paid back.
02:29Can you sue a player? This is the bizarro world of college football that definitely needs to fix.
02:35Once you sign a contract, I think you can live up to it or have a buyout of some sort
02:40where you have to pay back some of the money that you've taken.
02:44I mean, that's every business ever, right?
02:46So I think until college football fixes that, you're going to have more cases like this, especially at the quarterback
02:52position.
02:54Do you think it's something, Bill, where once these guys get suspended or once they are not suspended,
02:59but if they lose a lawsuit like this in court and start to pay back some restitution,
03:04do you think that'll kind of alleviate this a little bit?
03:06Well, I think so. And I still I'm of the belief and this is not going to happen.
03:10But if college football wants to eliminate some of these, when you come in as a recruit,
03:15I think on some level, maybe you come in, you sign your letter of intent and you sign a you
03:21give you an option.
03:22It's either a one or two year contract. Right.
03:24And I don't know how you do that through the schools without making them employees.
03:27I get that's the dicey part. But if you told a recruit, hey, once you sign here, you got to
03:32stay for two years.
03:33You know, if you sign that contract, you got to stay for two years.
03:36Then you have to live up to that contract or you don't get the money.
03:38I think that would fix some problems. How many college athletes are going to play one season somewhere and not?
03:45I get that they're going to move around at that point.
03:47But I also think it would reduce the number of players that come in and out of the portal.
03:51And that's what we need to do. The portal is a good thing.
03:53We just need to reduce the numbers of the people that go in it, players that go in it.
03:59I think that would help the game a long way.
04:02Do you think there's an educational aspect of it as far as maybe guys not understanding the whole buyout thing
04:07and understanding contracts in general?
04:09Because you got guys coming out of high school, maybe 18, 19 years old,
04:12and maybe they just don't understand the consequences that come with just like voiding a contract like that.
04:18Absolutely. Absolutely.
04:19Like the financial piece of it and not knowing that, hey, I've got to do this.
04:23And, you know, and then what what can be taxed? What can't be taxed?
04:27I think that's another piece of this that I've heard behind the scenes that, you know,
04:31recruits start to wonder, well, why do I pay taxes on that?
04:34You know, those kind of things. But of course.
04:36So I think a financial literacy piece to this is absolutely part of the plan that we should have moving
04:43forward.
04:44And if you stay at a school for two years or even one, you say you sign your contract,
04:48you have to stay here through this contract, through the bowl season.
04:52It would improve some of these things.
04:55Now, at a place like Ohio State, you know, does I think when you go to Ohio State,
05:00I heard from you guys over the years and so many players that play there, you go for the competition.
05:04Right. You go for the development and the competition.
05:06I remember C.J. Donaldson saying that last year to me.
05:10I was like, well, why'd you leave West Virginia?
05:12You were the leading rusher.
05:13It was about the competition piece of playing at a program like Ohio State.
05:16I think at the heart of it, that should be why you go to college and try to play at
05:20some of these programs.
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