00:00the executive orders and the NCAA is putting together.
00:03I guess they have a congressional working group that's trying to mimic some of
00:06this to put it into legislation. They start talking about, you know,
00:10five years after high school or turning 19 for eligibility purposes,
00:17you know, one free transfer limitation.
00:21There was some other stuff in there about some NIL things,
00:24but I think a lot of it though,
00:26I liked it because it was fairly simple and it's like, Hey,
00:28these are the things that we can get caught up in.
00:30It seemed like we're going to take some stuff.
00:32We're going to give some of the liberties that we have now,
00:34but also kind of put some constraints around it.
00:36So it feels a little more organized.
00:40Do you feel good and encouraged about the future of where college sports are
00:45going after that?
00:46I do. And, you know, without getting too,
00:49too far down the wormhole of politics, I mean,
00:51in terms of two reforms that I would be in favor of the five-year one makes
00:56sense to me, you know,
00:57and I think you could probably give some waivers in extreme cases.
01:02Let's say somebody suffers a horrific leg injury and it takes two seasons to
01:07recover. Maybe they could, and which has happened in football.
01:11You've had some horrible injuries or, you know,
01:14somebody gets and you never wish this or hope this happens to somebody,
01:17but like if they go through cancer treatment or something super where you would
01:21say, okay, there's your medical waiver. We'll give you a sixth year.
01:25It would be very rare in my opinion.
01:28And then I think that the one transfer rule makes so much sense to me because
01:31what were we talking about 15 minutes after the national championship,
01:34they were even asking Dan Hurley about it,
01:37that there were 2000 plus players in the transfer portal for basketball.
01:42Now the mechanics of the transfer portal have changed a little bit.
01:45I mean,
01:45I understand that guys want to go and where they want to play,
01:48but I think it's more about the guys that get left out and don't find a
01:51home. And, and that's a problem.
01:53So I think the curb that you say your first transfer is free.
01:57The second one, you have to sit out a year.
01:59And I think the number would go down drastically at that point.
02:03I hope that's true.
02:04And I hope it happens because that just kind of teaches these kids to stay
02:07there and stick it out.
02:09Me and Bobby had a conversation about that.
02:11And then I'm also glad that you do have a heart and you're able to maybe put an
02:14asterisk by that five years. I know Bobby,
02:16he doesn't want anyone in college for six years.
02:18He was very adamant about that. He was,
02:20it seemed like he was pissed off about it, but yeah,
02:22I see just these things being talked about as a positive,
02:25even though they're not officially going to happen,
02:27just putting it out in the air.
02:28It feels like some change is going to happen down the road.
02:31Yeah. And, and you want these,
02:33those are probably when you see college football fans complain about things,
02:38it's the portal. I don't think it's NIL or money.
02:41I don't think college football fans really care that much about it,
02:46right?
02:47They just want to see the players on the field and if they're not spending
02:50their money, then it doesn't really matter.
02:54So I think, you know,
02:55but they do care about the portal and they do care about 25 and 26 year old
02:59college football players and 60 year Juco guys and that kind of thing.
03:03And those are the things that if I were, you know,
03:06whether it's president Trump or the NCAA or whoever this council that wants to
03:11reform the sport,
03:12I think it comes down to the portal and it comes down to the,
03:16the eligibility factors and having college kids play college.
03:19If you're getting paid for it and you should be able to get done what you
03:22need to get done in four or five years before you go to the next level.
03:26And I don't know where you guys land on it, but the,
03:29the idea of I just have never been able to like kind of square the idea that
03:36college players are making more in most,
03:39in some cases than NFL players that play the same position when the NFL is the
03:43highest possible league.
03:44But I've had this argument back and forth where they mean a lot to the
03:48university for how much money gets brought in.
03:50So I don't know what the right answer is.
03:53I've always just thought that the guys at the highest level should be paid the
03:56most.
03:57Well, yeah, cause it's the highest level of sports.
03:59So it makes a lot of sense, Bill.
04:02And that's why you see guys wanting to stay in.
04:04Cause they might be a better college player than a prospective NFL player.
04:07And if you're a good player in college,
04:08you can make a million dollars and in the NFL,
04:11maybe you're making 500.
04:12And I know that that sounds inverted and crazy.
04:14And let alone when you start talking about guys with basketball and some of
04:18the players who might not make the NBA,
04:21they're more G league or Europe European guys.
04:25And I know that they were talking about this.
04:31They had John Calipari was on with like Jay Billis.
04:33They had the full round time.
04:34I don't know if you saw that.
04:35Yes, I did.
04:36And one of the big issues, and this was interesting.
04:38Cause I go, even it's in, even the same with football.
04:41Like you may play a couple of years in the NFL,
04:42but you made a lot of money in college,
04:44made a little money in the NFL.
04:46And then one day you wake up,
04:47you're 25 and your career is over or maybe even 23.
04:51Like you got to go get a job and you get offered an $80,000 job.
04:55And like, that should be pretty good.
04:56And people should feel good about that.
04:58But you went from making like a half a million dollars.
05:01You probably spent most of, let's be realistic.
05:05And like the psychological impacts of grief to try to figure out how to,
05:08how to help these young men a little bit,
05:10because this is going to be a very rude awakening for them as they try to
05:14encounter the real world.
05:16Yeah, for sure.
05:17And I think that the,
05:19that eight to 10 minutes of TV with Calipari and Reese Davis and,
05:23and Jay Billis was great because there was no, you know,
05:27Calipari had this, he, when he said, you know, it's not,
05:30this is amateur sports.
05:31And then he was interrupted and they said, it's not because the truth is it's
05:35somewhere in between it's supposed to be amateur sports,
05:38but it's no longer that.
05:40And if we're going to professionalize college athletics,
05:42we might as well be organized about it.
05:45That's kind of what, when Steele and I were talking earlier,
05:47it's the, the programs that have an NIL,
05:50a grasp on NIL and can still develop athletes to get into the next level and
05:56can still, I mean, it is college, right?
05:58They still have to go,
05:59you still have to go to class and major in things,
06:01because for the percent that don't go to the NFL or the NBA or get in,
06:07you know,
06:07at least you have a background that you can get into coaching or,
06:09or something else or get that job.
06:11You
06:11Well,
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