00:00Sudhanshu Trivedi, you all are first of all cutting short the session.
00:04Then on top of it, you are, no, no, one minute Sudhanshu now, you are saying that we cannot
00:08discuss the election commission. But the truth of the matter is when, when outside parliament,
00:13you are more than happy to defend the election commission when the vote chori allegations are
00:17made. Better to do it inside parliament. Settle these issues inside parliament. Parliament is
00:21the ultimate forum for debate. You did not discuss the Chinese intrusion citing national security.
00:27It took you a long time to eventually discuss Manipur. You are reluctant to discuss COVID
00:33management. The general sense, according to the opposition is the government is running
00:37away from real issues. You do not want to, you only want to discuss issues that fit in
00:42with your political agenda. Now that is not the way parliament can run. Then you might
00:46as well have a notice board where only government decides the agenda of parliament. Forget the
00:51opposition.
00:56I would like to give you a very clear cut substantive example. They are talking about the so called
01:03vote chori. The recently concluded Bihar election. Rajdeepji, I would like to remind in 2010, 15 years
01:10back, Congress contested Bihar election. You know how many seats they got? Four. Percentage
01:16of votes, six point four percent. Lost their security deposited in 231 out of 243. Again,
01:23I will repeat. They lost security deposit in 231 out of 243. Won four seats with six point four
01:29percent of vote. It's like a person who is just sitting on underwear and banyan and he is saying,
01:39Oh, my costly clothes have been stolen. You are having nothing. I challenge since last 35 years.
01:46Any time Congress has got even within 1990 when they got 71 seats and lost security deposit in one
01:53hundred. Sir, but you can say all of this inside parliament. Sir, if you can come on TV,
01:58sir, if you can come on TV, you can say this in parliament. Sir,
02:02you can say this in parliament, what you are telling me on a TV show. Why can't you debate this
02:07inside parliament like you are debating on a TV studio? I am saying this. I am saying this.
02:13A bankrupt person is saying my wealth has been, millions of rupees has been stolen. This is drama.
02:20When this is available, clear cut since 35 years, they are unable to have anything in UPNBR. Still,
02:26they are saying that has been stolen. This is drama. Second thing I would like to remind.
02:31He is talking about such a respect for parliament. It is the highest decision-making body. And after
02:37every judgment, decision, they go to Supreme Court. On work board, before it has been signed by
02:42president, they went to Supreme Court. Okay, this is your right. But on CA, your state assemblies have
02:48passed a resolution that they will not accept CA. Is the constitution not in danger? That how can a
02:54state assembly pass a resolution against act duly passed by the parliament of India? And how it was
03:00drama? Rajdeep Ji, five years have passed after CA. I challenge Nasir Sahib, quote, the five
03:07Muslims who have lost their citizenship because of CA. This was the farce which has been created to
03:14But you also took years to notify CA, sir. Sir, the center took years to notify CA.
03:23Ji, ji.
03:26CA has already been, and one more thing. They were saying two years back, EVM has been hacked.
03:32Can I come in, please?
03:33And EVM is hacked in such a manner that whatever button you push and it goes to Lotus.
03:39Now they are taken out of their allegations from EVM. It means they are accepting that their
03:47investigation and EVM was false. You have to say a joke or you have to say a joke.
03:52In fact, they have to say a joke. Now it's a drama.
03:54Now it's a drama.
03:56And in the last minute, I'm going to say a little bit on the lighter note, Rajdeep Ji.
03:58Who will become a millionaire?
04:01There are four options.
04:03If there is any election, then you have to give four options.
04:06After the defeat, Congress will give the blame to whom?
04:10Number one, the mis-utilization of the administration. Number two, EVM. Number three, election commission.
04:17Number four, the electoral rolls. They will never introspect themselves.
04:24And I also, Nasir Sahib, we had a shivir of MPs. Everybody has seen the photograph of Prime Minister sitting on the last bench.
04:32And he asked every MP to speak. Then cluster-wise also happened.
04:36So what does that have to do with Parliament, sir?
04:51No, no, no. Mr. Hussain, Mr. Hussain, I want you to come in.
04:57Sir, that's the case. Sudhan Shunji, that's why the best thing would be the Prime Minister attends
05:03Parliament regularly, allows MPs to speak from both sides. That's how Parliament democracies are now.
05:08That's what Jawala Nehru used to do. He would regularly attend Parliament.
05:12Now we've got a situation where there seems so much of a trust deficit.
05:16As you said, the opposition only attacks Prime Minister Modi.
05:21The BJP benches, on the other hand, do not tolerate any dissent.
05:25So you've got a complete breakdown. That's the problem, sir.
05:28No, no, no. No, no. The problem is, Rajdeep ji, I have said there is a complete serious competition.
05:37That's why they have not selected. Sir, let him complete.
05:42That's why they have not elected any of the India Alliance leader in any of the House.
05:46I challenge Sansa, who is the leader of India Alliance in Rajasabha and who is the leader of India Alliance in Lokasabha.
05:53No, because the Alliance is only for politics and within the Alliance there is a competitive politics.
05:59Otherwise you tell me who is the designated leader of, like we are having designated leader of NDA.
06:05But have you have any designated leader of India Alliance or your so-called India Alliance?
06:08Sir, I presume Malikarjun and Rahul Gandhi are that, but I'll allow Nasir Hussain to respond.
06:18Nasir Hussain, according to Sudhanshu Trivedi, he's saying the opposition Alliance itself is a house divided.
06:23And therefore there's constant one-upmanship within the opposition.
06:26Parliament becomes a forum for each of the opposition party to say,
06:30I think Sudhanshu is talking everything else other than the other than the agenda for the debate today.
06:46I think whether the parliamentary in parliamentary democracy, especially in this session and this government,
06:53whether they are taking up taking up the issues that have been raised by the opposition or not,
06:57he's going to everything else other than this.
06:59See, point number, you are speaking so much about SIR.
07:02I just want to see.
07:03See, 50-55-60 lakh quarts are added in Maharashtra, 65 lakh quarts are deleted in Bihar, 25 lakh quarts are deleted in Haryana.
07:14First of all, I don't know that EC can only do an intensive revision only of part of one constituency
07:25or otherwise only one constituency according to Section 21-3 of ROPA.
07:30They don't have the power to do SIR in the entire country and this question is still pending in the Supreme Court.
07:36Point number one. Point number two, putting 10,000 rupees in the account of one and half crore women
07:43put 10,000 rupees in the bank accounts of one and half crore voters.
07:59Is this not vote kharidi? Is this not bribery? Shouldn't this be discussed in the parliament?
08:04Shouldn't this be a part of the electoral reform that we are proposing?
08:09So if every government, incumbent government in the state or in the centre start putting amount in the accounts of the voters,
08:18then they are bound to win the election. That is one part. And then we have in press conference after press conference,
08:24we have clearly said how election commission has mismanaged the electoral rolls. Oh, TK, let us not accuse the election commission.
08:31Let us say there have been lacunists and anomalies in the way they are functioning. But shouldn't that be discussed in the parliament?
08:38Why is the government... Sir, you have been accusing the election commission.
08:41You have been directly accusing the election commission. Nasser Hussain, you all have been saying
08:45we have been accusing the election commission. Radhe, Radhe, Radhe, please allow me to speak.
08:53You give so much of time to Sudan Chu. See, we have been accusing. For a second, let me say,
09:00let us not accuse the election commission. Don't you think there should be discussion
09:04on electoral reforms after 75 years, for which we are raising .0. He spoke about opposition parties
09:11going to courts after it has been passed and assent given by the president. I think he is a
09:16student of history. He is not a student of political science. He should understand there is something
09:21called separation of powers in our parliamentary democracy. There is something about checks and
09:28balances and balances and separation of powers. If you think the law that has been passed by the
09:33parliament is not in tune with the constitution or unconstitutional or undemocratic, you have a
09:39right to go to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court can stack it down. This is a part of,
09:44this is a part and parcel of our parliamentary democracy. Everyone has a right to go to the
09:48court. Okay. He doesn't understand that. And then, don't you think, don't you think air pollution
09:54should be discussed? Sir, sir, can I just… Just one, just one second, Rathip, one second,
09:59Rathip, one second. He is, see, don't you think air pollution should be, should be discussed?
10:05How many have died in Delhi now? Don't you think national security needs to be discussed
10:10after the bomb blast in Delhi? Don't you think there are so many issues, Yuri,
10:14Pahlkam, Pulwama, now Delhi blast, and nobody has been held accountable so far? Shushil Kumar,
10:20Sunde and Velasru Doshmik resigned after the incident in Mumbai. Now, who has to be held responsible
10:25for this? Don't you think that we need to discuss this in the parliament? Okay, can I…
10:30If you don't discuss issues of trans magnitude in the parliament, what else can you discuss?
10:35Sir, I'll take both… Okay.
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