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In this Special Report, government and opposition representatives debate the functioning of Parliament and the prioritization of issues. The opposition questions why 'substantive issues' like alleged electoral roll anomalies and the death of 47 BLOs during the 'SIR' exercise are not discussed. The government representative counters by criticizing the opposition's limited focus on Manipur during the no-confidence motion, calling their outrage 'drama'. The discussion further explores the independence of the Election Commission and whether its functioning can be debated in the House.
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00:00Sudanshu Trivedi you see the question is what is the purpose of parliament is it to discuss
00:06issues of national importance now you have raised various issues where you say for example today
00:11you mentioned Renuka Chaudhary bringing her dog in now you could argue that that was poor form
00:17some would say either way the substantive issues which now Nasir Hussein is raising I am told the
00:23government wants to have a debate or discussion on 150 years of Vande Matram but the same government
00:29does not want to discuss the electoral reforms or the manner in which electoral rolls have been
00:34allegedly contaminated it won't discuss air pollution it won't discuss Chinese incursions
00:40it won't discuss Manipur until it was forced to through a no confidence motion so it's a question
00:46what is parliament for Sudanshu Trivedi is it for discussing substantive issues or is it for
00:52discussing only what the government wants the government's agenda
00:59Rajdeep ji I will reply with not only substantive but quantitative answer on that Nasir Hussein ji must be
01:08remembering and you must also be remembering he is saying that we are not allowing discussion on
01:12Manipur in the last parliament before 2022 the entire no confidence motion was brought on the
01:19issue of Manipur by Tarun Gorghoye we accepted and I challenge all the viewers in the entire speeches of
01:27Congress party not even a five percent time was dedicated sorry Gaurav Gorghoye sorry I challenge
01:36that the entire speeches of Congress party on the issue of no confidence motion on Manipur not even a five
01:44percent time they have given on money when Rahul Gandhi's speech was not having more than five
01:51percent on Manipur this is drama you are bringing no confidence motion on Manipur and after that you
01:58are and you have given only five percent or less than maybe two three percent time to Manipur then asking
02:04for another discussion on Manipur this is drama second thing on the farmers law when it was brought they
02:11installed the parliament complete one session and they said we said that we want to discuss you want
02:17to discuss the merit and demerits we want to no no no no discussion it has to be withdrawn at once okay
02:24the moment prime minister withdrawn and at once again they installed the parliament that why it is being
02:30withdrawn without discussion which was their demand in the previous session that it should be withdrawn
02:36without discussion at once immediately when it was withdrawn at once immediately then they said why
02:43it was not without the discussion and one more thing i would like to say on the issue of other issues which
02:49uh Hussain sahab has said i would like to quote sir
02:55dancing on the table was it not drama throwing the books on the chair uprooting of the mics these
03:03all things we have witnessed and on the issue of sir i would like to say rajdidi you are one of the very
03:11senior and uh experienced journalists of the country you have seen different thing any issue which is raised
03:17in the parliament is finally the answer is given by the concerned minister now can they tell uh this
03:24election commission falls under which ministry it is an independent statutory constitutional body
03:31and any functioning of the constitutional body cannot be discussed or no is it about parliament sir like
03:37something is going on a proceeding in supreme but is it above parliament no no sudhan chutrivedi that's a
03:43gray area is is the election commission above parliament are we saying sir sir this is a parliament which
03:49can even independent independent let me complete sir the same okay you're saying that therefore any
03:59discussion on but cannot ask there there can be no yes complete sir you will be able to yeah go ahead
04:08parliament can impeach judges please but cannot say if a proceeding is going on in supreme court then we have
04:14to decide that this evidence is to be taken in court or not that in the same manner we can impeach chief
04:19election commissioner but we cannot decide during the any procedure laid down or established by chief
04:25election commissioner or the election commission we have to decide whether this evidence is to be taken
04:30or this process is to be adopted or not this is drama so that's why i want to say that they are trying to
04:37hoodwink the people on the issue and last i would like to say uh yeah actually may issue based
04:43substantive mamla it is a competitive politics among the various opposition parties to prove that how far
04:51they can go in giving anti-modee hate speech anti-modee anguish anti-modee abusing or anti-bjp rsss
05:01abusing so this jawabi kawali is creating a problem among themselves because they think that the only
05:08common vote which is a gluing factor among the indian alliances otherwise you cannot say
05:13ki tamil nadu mein stalin aur mamta benarji bengal ke beech peh common vote kaun sa hai that common
05:19vote may be placated by a consistent competitive kawali against bjp rss and moody so i think this is the
05:29root cause not any substantive factual argument or issue you you know nasir hussein in what sudhanshu
05:41doing is using word like competitive kawali what he seems to suggest is the opposition also has got
05:47desperate today the government claimed that this desperation is because of election defeats in the
05:52last one year do you believe that sir can be debated by parliament given the fact that there is no
05:58ministry that directly controls the election commission let's resolve that once and for all
06:02can you debate sir in parliament when no direct ministry is involved just as you cannot debate
06:08an issue concerning a particular state because that does not involve the center
06:16rajib before coming to your uh question let me answer the issues raised by uh sudhashio terevidi
06:23uh he was speaking about the discussion on manipur can he tell me when was the discussion uh uh when was
06:34the discussion taken up on manipur we had to go to the extent of moving a no confidence motion
06:41that is that is that is the kind of uh parliamentary democracy that they are practicing
06:46when did uh the government uh withdraw the formulas after 14 months after 14 months and after after so
06:56many deaths of farmers and even today even in this sirx is already 47 blos have given their lives
07:04you are conducting an exercise for over 1 billion voters in just around two months time is it humanly
07:11possible election after election press conference no but can parliament attack the can parliament attack
07:19the election can parliament have a full debate on the functioning of the election commission
07:26why not why not why not why not see let me let let let me just finish radhiv see election after
07:33election we have raised the issues before the election after the election we have raised the issues
07:38we have shown to the world the anomalies and the lacunas in the in the functioning of the election
07:42commission we are yesterday in all party meeting we said today in the parliament we said okay don't
07:48have a debate on sir let us have a debate on election electoral reforms let us let us have an election
07:54let us have an discussion in any other name concerning the the the the elections that are being
08:00conducted in our country after 75 years why shouldn't we have a review why shouldn't we have an election
08:05and there is nothing in this country which cannot be discussed in the parliament parliament is the
08:11highest decision-making body government is accountable government cannot just say and wash his hands by
08:19saying that it's an independent body it cannot be okay we we know how they you how do we know how
08:24but you do you agree do you agree sayyed nasir usen we know how do you agree sayyed nasir usen that standing
08:31okay i'll i'll come to sudhan shu on that but do you agree that it is not the right way to say for
08:38example in some sessions we've seen mps get up on a table and start shouting that is also not acceptable
08:44yes or no or you are you condone that behavior
08:50rajjay now we are discussing what issues to be taken or not taken whether the government is taking
08:55up the issues that have been raised by the parliament by the opposition or not but point
08:59number one point number two we today what the kind of behavior by certain mps and all we'll discuss in
09:08some other some other debate when there is time for that but the whole point here is is our parliament
09:16being utilized is there enough time being given to discuss both the issues that are being brought by
09:22the government and the larger issues that are being raised by the opposition okay why is the
09:27government running away from these issues why why is it hesitant to discuss these issues why do you
09:34want to have a 12-day session let us have one month session we are ready to sit late in the night
09:42let us have 45 days session why are you having a smallest session 12 productive days what and you have
09:4813 years okay let me let let me take 13 years sir let me take that to sudhashu sir you have raised a valid point
09:56you have raised you have raised the valid point
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