00:00Sudanshu Trivedi you see the question is what is the purpose of parliament is it to discuss
00:06issues of national importance now you have raised various issues where you say for example today
00:11you mentioned Renuka Chaudhary bringing her dog in now you could argue that that was poor form
00:17some would say either way the substantive issues which now Nasir Hussein is raising I am told the
00:23government wants to have a debate or discussion on 150 years of Vande Matram but the same government
00:29does not want to discuss the electoral reforms or the manner in which electoral rolls have been
00:34allegedly contaminated it won't discuss air pollution it won't discuss Chinese incursions
00:40it won't discuss Manipur until it was forced to through a no confidence motion so it's a question
00:46what is parliament for Sudanshu Trivedi is it for discussing substantive issues or is it for
00:52discussing only what the government wants the government's agenda
00:59Rajdeep ji I will reply with not only substantive but quantitative answer on that Nasir Hussein ji must be
01:08remembering and you must also be remembering he is saying that we are not allowing discussion on
01:12Manipur in the last parliament before 2022 the entire no confidence motion was brought on the
01:19issue of Manipur by Tarun Gorghoye we accepted and I challenge all the viewers in the entire speeches of
01:27Congress party not even a five percent time was dedicated sorry Gaurav Gorghoye sorry I challenge
01:36that the entire speeches of Congress party on the issue of no confidence motion on Manipur not even a five
01:44percent time they have given on money when Rahul Gandhi's speech was not having more than five
01:51percent on Manipur this is drama you are bringing no confidence motion on Manipur and after that you
01:58are and you have given only five percent or less than maybe two three percent time to Manipur then asking
02:04for another discussion on Manipur this is drama second thing on the farmers law when it was brought they
02:11installed the parliament complete one session and they said we said that we want to discuss you want
02:17to discuss the merit and demerits we want to no no no no discussion it has to be withdrawn at once okay
02:24the moment prime minister withdrawn and at once again they installed the parliament that why it is being
02:30withdrawn without discussion which was their demand in the previous session that it should be withdrawn
02:36without discussion at once immediately when it was withdrawn at once immediately then they said why
02:43it was not without the discussion and one more thing i would like to say on the issue of other issues which
02:49uh Hussain sahab has said i would like to quote sir
02:55dancing on the table was it not drama throwing the books on the chair uprooting of the mics these
03:03all things we have witnessed and on the issue of sir i would like to say rajdidi you are one of the very
03:11senior and uh experienced journalists of the country you have seen different thing any issue which is raised
03:17in the parliament is finally the answer is given by the concerned minister now can they tell uh this
03:24election commission falls under which ministry it is an independent statutory constitutional body
03:31and any functioning of the constitutional body cannot be discussed or no is it about parliament sir like
03:37something is going on a proceeding in supreme but is it above parliament no no sudhan chutrivedi that's a
03:43gray area is is the election commission above parliament are we saying sir sir this is a parliament which
03:49can even independent independent let me complete sir the same okay you're saying that therefore any
03:59discussion on but cannot ask there there can be no yes complete sir you will be able to yeah go ahead
04:08parliament can impeach judges please but cannot say if a proceeding is going on in supreme court then we have
04:14to decide that this evidence is to be taken in court or not that in the same manner we can impeach chief
04:19election commissioner but we cannot decide during the any procedure laid down or established by chief
04:25election commissioner or the election commission we have to decide whether this evidence is to be taken
04:30or this process is to be adopted or not this is drama so that's why i want to say that they are trying to
04:37hoodwink the people on the issue and last i would like to say uh yeah actually may issue based
04:43substantive mamla it is a competitive politics among the various opposition parties to prove that how far
04:51they can go in giving anti-modee hate speech anti-modee anguish anti-modee abusing or anti-bjp rsss
05:01abusing so this jawabi kawali is creating a problem among themselves because they think that the only
05:08common vote which is a gluing factor among the indian alliances otherwise you cannot say
05:13ki tamil nadu mein stalin aur mamta benarji bengal ke beech peh common vote kaun sa hai that common
05:19vote may be placated by a consistent competitive kawali against bjp rss and moody so i think this is the
05:29root cause not any substantive factual argument or issue you you know nasir hussein in what sudhanshu
05:41doing is using word like competitive kawali what he seems to suggest is the opposition also has got
05:47desperate today the government claimed that this desperation is because of election defeats in the
05:52last one year do you believe that sir can be debated by parliament given the fact that there is no
05:58ministry that directly controls the election commission let's resolve that once and for all
06:02can you debate sir in parliament when no direct ministry is involved just as you cannot debate
06:08an issue concerning a particular state because that does not involve the center
06:16rajib before coming to your uh question let me answer the issues raised by uh sudhashio terevidi
06:23uh he was speaking about the discussion on manipur can he tell me when was the discussion uh uh when was
06:34the discussion taken up on manipur we had to go to the extent of moving a no confidence motion
06:41that is that is that is the kind of uh parliamentary democracy that they are practicing
06:46when did uh the government uh withdraw the formulas after 14 months after 14 months and after after so
06:56many deaths of farmers and even today even in this sirx is already 47 blos have given their lives
07:04you are conducting an exercise for over 1 billion voters in just around two months time is it humanly
07:11possible election after election press conference no but can parliament attack the can parliament attack
07:19the election can parliament have a full debate on the functioning of the election commission
07:26why not why not why not why not see let me let let let me just finish radhiv see election after
07:33election we have raised the issues before the election after the election we have raised the issues
07:38we have shown to the world the anomalies and the lacunas in the in the functioning of the election
07:42commission we are yesterday in all party meeting we said today in the parliament we said okay don't
07:48have a debate on sir let us have a debate on election electoral reforms let us let us have an election
07:54let us have an discussion in any other name concerning the the the the elections that are being
08:00conducted in our country after 75 years why shouldn't we have a review why shouldn't we have an election
08:05and there is nothing in this country which cannot be discussed in the parliament parliament is the
08:11highest decision-making body government is accountable government cannot just say and wash his hands by
08:19saying that it's an independent body it cannot be okay we we know how they you how do we know how
08:24but you do you agree do you agree sayyed nasir usen we know how do you agree sayyed nasir usen that standing
08:31okay i'll i'll come to sudhan shu on that but do you agree that it is not the right way to say for
08:38example in some sessions we've seen mps get up on a table and start shouting that is also not acceptable
08:44yes or no or you are you condone that behavior
08:50rajjay now we are discussing what issues to be taken or not taken whether the government is taking
08:55up the issues that have been raised by the parliament by the opposition or not but point
08:59number one point number two we today what the kind of behavior by certain mps and all we'll discuss in
09:08some other some other debate when there is time for that but the whole point here is is our parliament
09:16being utilized is there enough time being given to discuss both the issues that are being brought by
09:22the government and the larger issues that are being raised by the opposition okay why is the
09:27government running away from these issues why why is it hesitant to discuss these issues why do you
09:34want to have a 12-day session let us have one month session we are ready to sit late in the night
09:42let us have 45 days session why are you having a smallest session 12 productive days what and you have
09:4813 years okay let me let let me take 13 years sir let me take that to sudhashu sir you have raised a valid point
09:56you have raised you have raised the valid point
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