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00:00where i would caution ryan is projecting too forward with it i think there's been this like
00:04oh my gosh like this sets up for 2026 i've just lived this too many times where like next year's
00:10gonna be a completely different completely different they have a ton of moves to make
00:13and i wouldn't be too i wouldn't put too much stock in what you're seeing now in terms of for
00:19next year hello and welcome to gangs all here my name is ryan sampson that's our jets beat
00:24writer brian costell today is monday november 24th the new york jets are coming off a loss
00:29to the baltimore ravens in week 12 and we're here to break down that loss with brian costell to
00:33figure out what exactly we could take away from this loss whether positives were there negatives
00:38which one was more and ultimately where this team is heading the rest of this season but before we
00:43get to any of that mr costella how you doing today sir i are running a tire early early train from
00:49baltimore this morning how early how early are we talking no i was 7 45 ish but like yeah i was up i
00:58was up at 6 30 so that's too early for me ron yeah i hear you that's funny uh look guys uh another
01:07loss for this jets team two and nine um they are heading quickly into a top draft pick as we know
01:14i was reading your piece on sports plus which all of you jets fans should be subscribed to already go
01:19to post sports plus.com subscribe you get to read all of causes great info and takeaways from the jets
01:25team and his coverage there um i i'm interested to see are you a believer in the moral victories here
01:33because that is the sense i am getting from a lot of coverage here about this jets team and what to
01:40take away from yesterday even though they didn't come away with a victory yeah i've been shocked ryan at
01:46how positive it's been um you know even the post-game press conference i thought some of my
01:53brethren some of the questions they were asking like were kind of surprising post-game uh look yeah
01:59i get it um i would say they played well and it the last two weeks kind of been similar right they were
02:06overmatched better teams and they played hard they kept it close but they ultimately lost uh so you know
02:13nothing to like scream about and they they they're losing normal which is something we talked about
02:19earlier in the season is i thought you know jets fans would be okay if they lost normal not like
02:23they were losing some of those games to denver or miami and um you know a few of those right
02:28the clue where i would caution ryan is projecting too forward with it i think there's been this like
02:35oh my gosh like this sets up for 2026 i've just lived this too many times where
02:40people take what happens usually a little later in the season than this even we've started a little
02:45earlier on this theme but like projecting stuff that happens in december as to like it's going to
02:51carry over next year like next year's gonna be a completely different completely different they
02:56have a ton of moves to make and i i wouldn't be too i wouldn't put too much stock in what you're
03:01seeing now in terms of for next year like i i for jets fans the one i remember best was 2013
03:08uh jets won three of their last four games they finished eight and eight they bring rex back
03:13everyone's feeling great uh they were like oh this team's if you know just a few moves away they're
03:19gonna they're gonna improve off of eight and eight and they went four and 12 uh they had a disastrous
03:25offseason horrible draft uh didn't didn't messed up the cornerback position completely so you know
03:32yeah i get like the john mitch he looks like a good pickup but you know if you're if if you're
03:39doing this right john mitch is your third or fourth receiver right like casey i feel like people are
03:44talking about right now like he's jerry rice and so i we found our starting slot receiver cause can
03:50you believe it i know i think people are starved for anything like but like you know you had six
03:54catches for 65 yards and a touchdown was good it's like like there was no expectations i get it
03:59um but you know that's not like let's let's throw throw a parade for him so um look yeah i i get it
04:08people are starved for for anything right now and they're trying to project some good stuff here but
04:13it's there's still two and nine yeah and there's still six more games left which is why i find it
04:18so true and what you're saying about how ryan we're at this point where we're already projecting ahead but
04:24there's still so much football left to be played and i i'm still of that mindset of let me evaluate now
04:29and what i'm seeing on the field and not project to the future and what i'm seeing now is still a
04:33team that felt like caused yesterday a chance to win a football game and they really yeah they
04:38squandered it away in the second half and i think coaching and and ultimately the offense fell short
04:45yesterday and i and i wonder do you feel that this could be blamed on tanner angstrand because i thought
04:52his call play calling was curious and cut and glenn's game management was curious yesterday in the
05:00second half i just want to hear your takeaways on how that played out yeah for me it was three things
05:06in the second half right uh first it was defensive penalties um and you might say they weren't good
05:13calls i actually have not even been able to watch the game back yet so i'm not sure i'm not sure
05:18about the isaiah oliver one uh i'd like to watch that a little closer but he gets called for that
05:24um and that extends that drive that was the first drive of the second half of the ravens they go down
05:29and score then tony adams gets flagged at the goal line which i thought looked like a good call in real
05:35time um yeah so they so then they extend that drive and score which again why is tony adams lined up on
05:42zay flowers on third third down there guys so there's that then uh the second thing is aaron glenn
05:48uh i did not agree with going forward on fourth down in this situation i know the analytics say go
05:54for it but to me uh you're playing your defense was playing really well first half you're playing
05:59field position game like keep doing it keep playing field position pin them down i'm austin mcnamara
06:05like we can joke all we want like he's probably you know he and nick folk are the most consistent
06:09players on the team so use his use that weapon pin them down inside the 10 and you know maybe you
06:15get the ball back at the 50 god forbid i say they may get a turnover but like maybe get the ball back
06:19at the 50 and you can do something with it keep it a 10-7 game so i i didn't like glenn's decision
06:25to go forward on fourth down yep and then finally bruce hall fumbles you know going in when they
06:30may look like they were going to make a 20 to 17 and who knows what happens then he fumbles so to me
06:35it was those were the key i didn't focus on angstrand as much right like it's an interesting
06:38point um but to me it was those three areas the defense penalties glenn's fourth down and then
06:44breezes fumble yeah i think those are three definitely big talking points from from from
06:49the game itself but i think yeah the reason why i i talk about tanner angstrand is because i didn't
06:54love the play design on the fourth down play i didn't love them yep i didn't like his play design
07:01call and calls on multiple of the third downs one i think the first of the game where i think tyrod
07:06checked into the run it looked like the second time it's third and six and they hand the ball
07:11off to isaiah davis it's just it feels like the jets are in between right now with the offensive
07:18play calling where are we going to be conservative or are we going to be aggressive and that kind of
07:23falls into the aaron glenn part where you talk about fourth down where he shouldn't have gone for
07:26it are we going to be aggressive or we're getting more conservative like we were in the first half
07:30we were playing the field position game so i just the that part to me i really want to analyze
07:36and critique aaron glenn and tanner angstrand where it's like make up your mind and figure out where
07:41you want to go as a team because i don't know how to evaluate you right now when i have serious
07:46question marks about of this this coaching staff and their experience and how they're managing these
07:51games yeah well i think the third down isaiah davis i think in that situation they knew they were
07:57going for it on fourth down right as long as he didn't lose yards there probably so you're trying
08:01to cut the yardage in half you're not going to throw it's the lions mentality which they did with
08:07ben johnson a lot where they ran it on third and and fourth down they would go for it to make it shorter
08:11try right try to get to fourth try to get to fourth and two that's where you want it uh i'm interested
08:17i need to watch that fourth down back uh glenn said mitchell was open he said um on a call this morning
08:24with us so i'm curious to see that you know um i'd like to see more of an option on like i'm not
08:32like i like on those like fourth down it's almost like a goal line play to me is like
08:35roll tyrod out tyrod did a really good job of like avoiding the rush i thought yesterday he was
08:40very elusive so like roll him out let's see if he can you know if there's nothing there he can he can
08:46take off with the ball or or he has a short pass not just kind of drop back and throw it out to
08:51i didn't love that that play design but i'm not going to kill angstrom on that right like i i do
08:57think i think the fourth down stuff's interesting right or the like the short yardage because if
09:03they hand the ball off like how many times in the last few years did they just hand the ball off running
09:08up the middle and we screamed like oh my god what are they doing and then so they're trying you know
09:13throwing the ball uh on fourth down which i i think is the way to go in these situations it's almost
09:19they can't win if you don't make it we're going to criticize you whatever you do um but i do think
09:24i think tyrod showed he can he can still run a little bit and so i would take advantage of that
09:29i agree with you because i just um there's there's this fan base and and i obviously i'm a just fan
09:36myself it's just i'm seeing a lot of comments you know even from from what frankie and i did the post
09:42game yesterday and i'm sure we're going to see it today you guys are being too negative on this team
09:45and like you said before about there's a lot of positivity about this jets friend you know team
09:50and how they played yesterday yeah look i think they outplayed the ravens in certain parts of the
09:54game but the ravens ultimately showed they have more talent on their roster uh and they were able
10:00to overcome the mistakes but the things that you've said cause are things that we've seen all year
10:05long too many defensive penalties too many to times where game management where you're like
10:10was that the right decision or not and i just feel like i'm starting to get a better idea of what
10:18aaron glenn is a head coach and potentially what this coaching staff is put together and i i'm starting
10:25to question if that's going to be the right leadership group going into next year am i wrong to read it
10:30that way when i watch a game like that against the ravens because it feels like i didn't come away
10:35saying i didn't come away thinking that right okay i didn't like the fourth down call but i certainly
10:39understand it like in analytics i think he goes by analytics like i think that's what we've learned
10:44about i don't think there's much gut with aaron glenn which kind of surprises me since he's a
10:48player i think he's doing you know he has john berger in his ear telling him what the analytics said
10:53i'd have to look back uh if there was any decisions this year where i was like he went against analytics
10:59i feel like he pretty much rolls with that okay so you know i'm not going to crush him on that i didn't
11:04agree with it but i i didn't come away like you know questioning his coaching ability off of this one
11:09and i do think they are better they're playing better now than they were playing in september
11:14which is what we said in september is like you got to see they're going to be playing
11:16better november december they are like the last month has been pretty good right they beat two
11:22teams that they were similar weight class of i'll put the bangles in the jets weight class with no joe
11:27burrow obviously they're different one burrow but the bangles and browns similar teams to the jets
11:32they win those two games then they play two teams that are better than them have much more talent than
11:36them and the patriots and the ravens and they hung with them so i think that's positive and now you've
11:40got two teams that again are similar to them falcons and dolphins can they work can they win these games
11:46which i know will send some people over the edge that are looking at tentathon every every day uh
11:52but you know i think that's the question right now well the question also is is you know should be
11:58like does glenn need these wins more than anything else because you're talking about hanging in there
12:03with these better teams it's part of that moral victory thing of taking those small steps where
12:09look better we the gate they're playing better football which they are but like it's it's i don't
12:15know how to say it's like putting lipstick on a pig like you're talking about little incremental
12:20wins and moral victories of hey we're playing better football be proud of that in a really lost season
12:26and when a season that's been over ultimately since mid-october yeah yeah i think he needs to win
12:33right and i've heard this this idea of like this season doesn't really count for aaron glenn like
12:37yeah he's not getting fired i've said that since you know forever but i promise you if next year
12:44doesn't go well and people are citing reasons to get rid of aaron glenn they're gonna count these games
12:51so so if he goes two and 15 this year and let's say they start off you know one in six it's gonna be
12:59hey he's three and 21 as the head coach yep it's not gonna be oh well you know what that was
13:04yeah so they were trying to figure out they were trying to evaluate the talent they really weren't
13:09we didn't care about the wins no one's gonna say that look at dable right dable's record was thrown
13:14down and people even chopped off dable's first year when they cited his record a lot because it was like
13:19that was good that didn't go with the storyline so you know no one's gonna no one's gonna give him a
13:24pass here in the future on these games so i i do think he needs to win i think he needs to win
13:30just to reinforce his message and to show these guys you know to make them believe and buy in further
13:35i i think it's tough to have full buy-in if you're losing games um so i do think he needs to get some
13:42wins here i mean i don't think there's a ton of them on the schedule but could they win two games
13:46uh you know could they win three games possibly i think three is the ceiling but i i could see i could
13:53see it i mean the this falcons dolphins and saints are are the ones that are in their their weight
13:58class to me yep this this three game stretch is so critical for one if they can reel off more wins
14:04and two where they're ultimately going to end up in the draft position like you pointed out before
14:08cause um i am interested to hear your thoughts considering i've been so negative here in this
14:14episode what are some positives you saw out of yesterday that you would like to highlight about
14:19this jets team yesterday besides john match uh i thought i think the run defense has really
14:24improved in the last two weeks i thought they did a really good job uh run defense wise i think their
14:29linebackers are playing better um quincy i thought sherwood was they were flying around making
14:34awesome yesterday i think briggs and phillips have done a good job in the middle you know that was a
14:39question when they traded quinnon um but they've done a good job so i think steve wilks
14:43you know i'm not i'm not giving him a contract extension but i also i think people need to
14:48slow down on firing him you know he he he did they had a good game plan yesterday they did a good
14:54job i do not think lamar is 100 and i think that helped the jets yesterday but i thought they did a
15:01good job against the run um you know obviously matchy like i you know i knocked him down a little
15:07bit before but he he's he's playing well and it's pretty impressive for a guy who wasn't here a month
15:11ago to come in and have that kind of impact mitchell was open some um you know he had one one
15:17big catch yep uh you know but they get him more involved they started throwing a breeze more which
15:23i think is probably a function of tie rod more than anything else and obviously that that worked
15:27well in that one drive until the fumble um you know he had the 40 yard reception and then he had
15:32the other like 11 12 yard reception so i thought that was good so yeah there were positives in the game
15:37to me i completely agree with you on all those points i think another thing uh that i i wanted
15:42to note was um breeze was putting together like a hell of a drive there before that fumble like he
15:49looked like a truly like superstar type running back that we had hoped for like hey this might be the
15:55breeze moment right here like you've been hoping for as a fan and he was taking over that game at
15:59that point just a tough moment there um and it sucks to see him because i don't know if you get to
16:04the tv copy at all yet but like he was really down on the sidelines like after that fumble uh you could
16:10see he was wearing it which which stinks for him man because like he he had a great he had a great
16:15great drive until that moment um and again i might be negative here again but the defense does not force
16:22another turnover they don't get another interception they're setting record here now with no interceptions
16:26this season um the secondary like is it them is it are you seeing anything differently here like i don't
16:36know how else i can ask you and like why they're not being able to force at least an interception here
16:41i don't have answers right like yeah i mean it's partly the secondary but also like i don't know i saw
16:47the highlights of the chiefs cults game right and defensive end that's the ball in the air from
16:52patrick mahomes and picks it off for the cults like right like that's not the quality of quarterbacks
16:57it's just a guy getting his hands in the ball i do think there has been there hasn't been many tip
17:02passes by the jets defensive line i don't know if there's a reason for that i don't know if there's
17:06something that they're not doing they're there but i do think that you know tip passes are the easiest
17:12way to an interception and that hasn't really happened for the jets but yeah i'm mystified by the whole
17:18thing and you know the fumbles is almost as incredible i mean one recovered fumble is just
17:24crazy um just just crazy yeah i mean that's that speaks in part to again like the ravens they they
17:32make a great play there towards the end of the game the jets just can't come up with the turnover
17:36when they needed to or forcing a sat like i think also the big the big talking point here is you know
17:41i know will was battling another injury this week it's like jermaine and him did not have a great day
17:46in terms of pressures and getting after lamar which i know what you're gonna say quarterback's
17:50tough right i know but he's banged up too he's banged up but he's he's he's still elusive enough
17:56where when the pressure came he could gain a yard like he had a bunch of runs that were like one or
18:01two yards you know what i mean like those are almost sacks they're they're they're causing a
18:05disruption to the play like hard for me to ding them on on not sacking lamar like i know he's been
18:10sacked more this year than more this year than other years yeah but i do think i do think there's
18:15pressure i don't think they got some pressure they just they just didn't quite get to him
18:19let's see when you know kirk cousins is there this week a little more statuesque can they can they get
18:25to him but yeah i mean i look the the level of expectation might have to come down for jermaine
18:31and will like they're not tearing it up so you know you might have to look at would you be happy with
18:3810 sacks and five sacks from those guys instead of i think everyone's hoping for them both to be like
18:44in double digits and that's not really happening no it's not um yeah look guys the final thoughts
18:50for for you and i wanted to ask you this too and something about personnel usage i'm i'm curious you
18:57think isaiah davis has been on the field every single third down it feels like is there a reason for that
19:02i mean breese hall yeah he's a third down back but like don't you think you should change that up a
19:06little bit i mean breese hall is breese hall like when you want to have him out there yeah maybe not
19:10can make it so predictable as a defense defending isaiah davis out there i mean there's usually a
19:17guy who's a third down back right like going back balal powell was a third down back like for a lot of
19:21years here and they put him in on third down it's kind of a football coaching thing and i asked i asked
19:27glenn about it this morning you know should you have had breese on the field for the fourth down
19:33i didn't ask about third down but fourth and two and he said well we believe in all of our players
19:38you know so he's not i think he's easy if he says yeah he's taking a shot isaiah davis
19:42so that's tricky too like you want to show faith in your players uh but you know if you're the
19:50chicago bulls and the game's on the line you're getting the ball of michael jordan right yeah he
19:54might pass to steve kerr or john paxton he might pass it off but you want him involved at least so
19:59i do see i did see that criticism i think it's fair of like why was a breeze on the field but
20:04yeah it's um i think it would have been interesting if braylon allen had stayed healthy
20:10what the rotation would have looked like more but right now basically what they're doing is
20:13breeze is out there first and second down davis is out there third down occasionally there's a davis
20:18series like you know breeze needs a rest i guess but for the most part that's been the way the way
20:23they've been doing it certainly has uh brian costello we appreciate you always for hopping on here giving
20:28us all your coverage and analysis uh we'll we'll be looking forward to talking to you enjoy your
20:33thanksgiving sir uh what's your favorite side real quick for the fans stuffing definitely stuffing
20:40yeah easily easily uh kaz we'll catch you later this week man thank you all right thanks ryan
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