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00:00it was a um a statement that raised eyebrows and concern i think we all kind of looked at each
00:06other after he left the room like did he really say that like because and like i said like i'm
00:11pretty cautious about tweeting it right away because i want to make sure i get the quote right
00:15so i was like i'm not tweeting until i listen to it again and i was still oh my god that was bad
00:20hello and welcome to gangs all here my name is ryan sampson that's our jets beat writer brian
00:25costello and that's my guy frankie vitterity from you stadium today's friday november 7th week 10 of
00:30the nfl season the jets are playing the cleveland browns at home now a two and a half point dog
00:35after a couple of insane trades at the deadline the jets have traded sauce garter and quinn and
00:41williams we broke it down on the live show after the deadline go check it out if you can on the
00:45new york post sports youtube channel uh but today's episode we're going to talk about the latest with
00:49this jets team uh preview a little bit of this matchup but really discuss where this team goes
00:55from here on out the rest of this season before i get to any of that i'll start with kaz how are you
01:00doing today sir on this fine friday fall morning i'm good ryan i'm good looking forward to getting
01:07to sunday and covering a football game again after all this week it uh it perfectly lined up the way
01:13it went with the trade deadline and then then this happens with the bye week so it's uh it's been a
01:19while since we've seen actual football on the on the field for the jets and frankie how are you doing
01:22today sir feeling good guys i'm feeling good i can finally start to see a little bit of light here
01:27in this uh this very very dark tunnel so uh i thought it was a pretty good week for us jets fans
01:32and we'll see how uh see how sunday shapes out in the famous words of frankie vinterini all year long
01:38it's getting darker and darker we're getting down the rabbit hole but like frankie says maybe there's
01:43a light at the end of the tunnel of course the jets are selling hope as always and i want to start
01:47off with gang signs off fellas uh aaron glenn spoke uh yesterday or two days ago sorry after the uh
01:54trade deadline and spoke to you guys in the media and he's asked about his messaging to fans um
02:01after these two superstars on the jets team are traded off in sauce and quinnon listen i want this to be a
02:08team that the fans are proud of but again um i never said that we're going to be proud of them right
02:14now at some point i want this to be a team that this uh that the fans are proud of and i still
02:19i still stick with that you know and i will still say that this is a team that the fans will be proud
02:24of i'll start off before i toss to you guys aaron glenn was asked before the season what determines a
02:33successful season to you and he said exactly quote i want the fans to be proud of this team
02:39now it's semantics by saying not now but in in the end of it all there has definitely been a shift
02:49in what aaron glenn's messaging has been from the start to now right now after the deadline when they
02:55trade sauce and quinnon for a hall of picks so i have an issue in the fact that you now have played
03:02the semantics game and shifted your statement of saying you want fans to be proud of this team
03:07they're not proud of this team they're not proud of the one in seven product and to be honest with
03:12you no one saw this team being this bad this year and no one saw you trading sauce gardener at the
03:20deadline for a hall of picks quinnon was obviously the rumors there but this is where they are now
03:26and that is aaron glenn i think he can't admit his mistakes where i've maybe overvalued where the
03:34start of this team was in the beginning of the year because there was also at the beginning of
03:37the offseason where he said this is a winning team we're here to win so i have a lot of i have a lot
03:43of issues with aaron glenn has now put this messaging forward kai's and i'll toss it to you and your
03:48reaction to what aaron glenn said that to you guys yeah yeah there's a lot ryan i mean first of all i
03:55thought his answer before the season when he was asked that question was really good because he didn't
04:00he didn't kind of box himself into wins or playoffs or anything like that it's like okay yeah like
04:06most coaches are gonna say fans should be proud of the team no matter what and then just for him to
04:12kind of say well no you shouldn't be proud of the team right now i thought was really putting his foot
04:18in his mouth um but yeah i think the bigger thing is there has been a shift and even i was told there's
04:25been a shift in the meeting rooms like with the players like they've there's been a shift in the
04:29messaging from the coaches from like we're we're winning games to more about development and growing
04:35and improving and you know i i we've heard that before from coaches but i feel like i feel like
04:45sala and douglas were pretty good about that in 2021 of being up front and being like okay this this
04:50we're not going anywhere this season we didn't say that but they were like they would always talk
04:53about improving improvement and growth and getting young players better and you really didn't talk
04:58about winning as much then and i thought that was fair at that point from where for where the team was
05:04so yeah it's been a shift and i think i think erin glenn i think yeah i think the team is not as good as
05:11he thought it was going to be um that's partially on him uh and i also makes you question their player
05:18evaluation skills a little bit like did they i get that the sauce thing was like oh they they
05:24they're getting praised for structuring the contract the way they could they could train
05:29him but it's not a good thing that you signed a guy in july to a long-term contract and we're
05:33talking about him being here with 2030 he's and he's gone before before alan lazard he left the building
05:40before alan lazard guys he left the building building before michael clemens so that sounds
05:45like you didn't realize what you had in sauce when you watched the tape of him and you he wasn't
05:51quite as good as you thought he was so yeah it was a um a statement that raised eyebrows and concern
05:58i think we all kind of looked at each other after he left the room like did he really say that like
06:03did he because and like i said like i'm pretty cautious about tweeting it right away because i want
06:08to make sure i get the quote right so i was like i'm not tweeting it till i listen to it again and
06:12oh my god that was bad frankie uh i i have to imagine you're with me that when kaz says that
06:22was bad and now also you heard it live when it did when he did say that what is your thoughts and
06:28reactions to it well to be honest i'm trying to put a uh time frame on this or from the his original
06:35comments like when he did say that this is going to be a team you're proud of when did he mean or when
06:40did he intend for that question the question frankie was about this season this season was
06:45how do you define this a successful season it was it was like i think at all points i don't think
06:52yeah okay i think he wanted them you to be proud of him in week one and pittsburgh is how i took it
06:57like yeah yeah i don't think he ever wanted i don't think a coach ever wants to feel the team that fans
07:01aren't gonna be proud of and he also pretty low bar and i'll finish up before like when he finished up
07:07his quote there in the beginning of the season about fans should be i want fans to be proud of
07:10this team he ended it with and wins will come with that if we if if they're proud of this team he
07:17ended the quote with that that's what people forget too it's like that that's an indictment on you
07:22you're literally saying i they're gonna be proud if we win some games which is true it's a good quote
07:27but then for you to walk it back after you just it's like you have egg on your face at this point
07:32where like dude know the room read the room and like be honest with us as fans and be like
07:37guys this season hasn't gone the way we wanted it to and we saw the opportunity what you which is what
07:43he said before that quote here uh this week and just be like we're shifting we're shifting our
07:49organization's thoughts on how we're gonna build this thing for the future so that that's where i'm
07:54kind of at with this whole thing because i was gonna ask you yes i i agree with with what you're
08:01saying at at any point in the season really is is what he was referring to i do think though when
08:08you're looking at this season and where it was going i think circumstances and and the fact that
08:14this trade was put on the table for them and i did love his answer with how he responded in terms of
08:20the trade he said it's opportunity this league is all about opportunity i thought that was a really
08:25good answer um i think he was trying to uh message us and and put forth that this was something that
08:34he didn't even really expect with the sauce deal specifically and they just kind of jumped at it
08:39and uh i get it but if they really love the player they wouldn't jump at it because in that theory of
08:45opportunity you know and i said i threw this at some people with the jets who are giving me that
08:49that stuff i'm like okay if you're the kansas city chiefs like you guys should call the kansas city
08:54chiefs right now and say we'll give you all of our draft picks in 2026 2027 and 2028 for number 15
09:00are they gonna do that no because they're never gonna trade patrick mahomes there's no price you
09:06could give them for patrick mahomes like so and then oh that's not fair as a quarterback okay but like
09:11that there was a they didn't there was something about sauce gardener that they were willing to make
09:16this move they weren't willing to trade garrett so this is i i get the opportunity line but it's a
09:23little disingenuous because you had to be willing to trade them to in order to take the opportunity
09:28completely agree with you guys completely agree with you um so i i think how we shift from here
09:35fellas is i want to ask you both and get your thoughts and i and this is kind of what i want
09:40to label this episode and now what meaning what now are we as fans and you guys as the media member
09:49what are we supposed to look forward to this season because there's still nine games to play
09:53the rest of the year and and that's a lot of football to watch yeah diagnose and digest
09:58yeah why sort of reference this the last time we talked like you guys are sickos and you're gonna
10:04watch it no matter what no matter what you say you're gonna watch it and you're gonna be pissed
10:08off when you're you know how can lamar jackson be beating tony adams like this i don't understand it
10:15like so you you know it's gonna be you guys will do your fan thing but i think i think you're i think
10:22there's kind of a couple things you're looking for you know aaron glenn's gonna be here right we've
10:27gone over that before so you want to see growth from aaron glenn i think you saw it in cincinnati
10:32like his decision making in cincinnati seemed pretty good and uh so can he can he show you something as
10:38a coach that makes you believe he's the right guy uh and then young players you know um you want to
10:43see something from the young players and i'll throw in the guys that they acquired now ad mitchell
10:47i think you guys are excited about him and um you know some of the other guys that they acquired can
10:52they can they do something can you i think you're i mean i'm probably going to use this line in the
10:57newspaper someday i'm thinking about it but we are now entering the 2027 preseason
11:02right that's what this that's to me that's what these nine weeks are about and you're like you're
11:07like okay who's who should be part of the 2027 jets um oh i i really like what i saw from kiko on
11:14and this game and i really you know az thomas really stepped up like i think that's where your
11:19focus is right now is who's going to be on 2027 jets and then the coaching um you know can you see
11:25growth in the coaching frankie what about you how are you feeling about the rest the team the rest of
11:30the way i agree 100 with cause um they're gonna have to audit this roster the rest of the year
11:37and that goes not only towards what cause is saying with 2027 i'm looking at 2026 the draft
11:44if they're drafting i said i meant 2026 okay i know but oh yeah yeah yeah the point's still there
11:52yeah it's still there cause because i think you're you're making a good point about 27 it's like
11:55that's after the two yeah i'm not that far ahead i'm at 2026 i kind of like that though
12:012027 free i was wow that's kind of forward thinking um they're gonna have to look at these
12:06defensive players guys in this draft too if they are not in love with one of these quarterbacks
12:10arvel reese ruben bain not gonna get too much into draft talk but they may be drafting fourth or fifth
12:18if mendoza gets picked or he doesn't and they're not in love with any of these guys they have to see
12:24do we really need a linebacker do we need caleb downs and draft him at safety so i think depending
12:30upon how the rest of these guys play i cause i'm with you if you draft a safety oh my god i'm with
12:36you i i know i know um as good as caleb downs is and look i was on the kyle hamilton train back in
12:422022 and it turns out he's pretty good but they're yeah he's awesome you can't draft him number four
12:48you can't draft him four yeah if you're a game changer at safety like kyle hamilton when he's healthy
12:53he is a game changer he changes the scope of what you can do on defense you you have to be that
12:58though to be justified getting picked in the top 10 for the most part um but yeah they're gonna have
13:03to audit the roster the rest of the year uh riding cause and see who they think can you know compete
13:10to start in in 26 or can't and they they have a you know two first round draft picks so uh should be
13:18able to address something i hope yeah i mean audit the roster i think also uh besides the
13:23coaching you want to see growth overall from the strategy like kaz said about tanner angstrand uh
13:30what's his offensive play calling look like the rest of the way how's he gonna get guys like at
13:33nine mitchell and can he get john menchie the ball um and and those two guys i am really fascinated to
13:39see if they can make some kind of you know just just impact on the game it doesn't have to be
13:44superstar quality but i think the traits are there especially for a guy like ad mitchell who who
13:49looks the part but just needs the opportunity and maybe this is the opportunity for ad mitchell
13:55but you need a better quarterback play bottom line um and i and i think that kind of also brings me to
14:02where where are we at with this team and and guys that are on expiring deals and the first one i want
14:10to talk about is quinn and williams because quincy i'm sorry quincy williams sorry quincy williams uh
14:16he got benched what is your thoughts causing the fact they didn't deal him before the deadline was
14:21over and now we find out he's not even the starting linebacker this week yeah i'm puzzled puzzled
14:27i i thought they should have traded him anyway like i thought that was gonna happen anyway and so
14:33you know then to find out he monday they told him he wasn't playing and they still didn't trade him
14:39you know like you had to be able to get a six for him in my mind but even you get a set just get
14:45something like i i don't understand it at all i i don't understand that at all and um i also think
14:53to uh uh this this raised a different thought in my head like we talk about the coaching and we talk
14:59about a lot of times we talk about coaching we talk about the decision making right and that kind
15:04of thing but why are players getting worse is something i'm thinking about so like quincy williams
15:11was a all pro player two years ago now he's getting benched i assume like for the fifth round pick
15:17why did michael carter get worse um why is will mcdonald getting worse uh like you guys argued
15:26quincy williams was getting worse i didn't totally agree with that but you can throw him in that
15:30bucket too if you want um you know sauce if you want to argue sauce has gotten worse yeah so like
15:37what's going on coaching wise on the defensive side of the ball where some of these players who
15:43you know were pretty good two three years ago were pretty good and what why have they dropped off
15:48this much and uh is that a concern with the coaching i wonder also like you said with the
15:55concern with the coaching we can't forget how we started this year steve wilkes was on the hottest
15:59of hot seats and we were talking about him a ton of like is this guy i'm gonna make the year just
16:04because that's a guy who did not have a great track record uh in in terms of recent history and his
16:10performance of coaching defenses and we still have to pay attention the rest of the year like i
16:15understand you traded quinnon and sauce but there's still guys on this team like jermaine and will and
16:20quincy and and and jamie and sherwood has not had a great year this year i'm sure which are on there
16:25too yeah um like there there needs to be better play by this defense overall and i guess that's
16:30where we can't let the we can't let our foot off the off the guest pedal here a little bit when it's
16:35like what does steve books do the rest of this year and he can't have a built-in excuse because you
16:40traded sauce and quinnon in my opinion what about you frankie well yeah i mean the interesting thing
16:45about this conversation is when robert sala and jeff holbrook were here it seemed like they were
16:50developing these guys pretty fast these guys that's the strength that's the strength of the
16:55era frankie right to me absolutely the best thing sala did was develop defensive players bryce huff
17:00right for sure quincy williams yeah quincy yep totally um i think now talking about quincy
17:07specifically guys i think quincy's been really bad this year now i know he's made some plays i know
17:12he's been like a rocket he's he's made some splash plays that when you're watching the game on sunday
17:16you're like oh that looks great like quincy's back uh look at the other 10 plays after that and
17:22the 10 plays before that um he doesn't fit with jamie and sherwood they just don't fit side by side
17:28i don't know if they're not seeing it i don't know if they're not diagnosing it i don't know if
17:32that's the reason but i'm i'm sure it has something to do with it um he's all over the place
17:38jamien isn't sure where to fill quincy's filling sometimes the right or wrong gap
17:43i don't know but they clearly don't fit together i maybe something happened i i would say cause i
17:50i would maybe throw that to you or rye if you have an opinion there but i think something happened
17:54between him not getting dealt his brother getting dealt and then him getting benched because no he
17:59was like monday frankie he was benched monday he's benched before the deadline he's benched before the
18:03trade happened yeah oh so you don't think there was anything like i don't think there was anything
18:07and like look i know the brother's storyline is fun and all but yeah like these are two guys who
18:11were very much their own individuals yeah i think they enjoyed playing each other with each other but
18:15yeah they were they're they're their individual guys like i don't think they're aiming for the
18:20trade like he was benched monday so interesting so you think it has everything to do with the tape
18:24from the last uh bangles it's like you just said it's like you just said yeah and well i thought he
18:30played pretty well in the bangles game and like he had some nice plays before that and then i think
18:34it has something to do with kiko too like yeah i think they're i think now they're going okay like
18:39thomas is gonna play we dealt sauce they already have malachi more playing uh they have the guys on
18:44offense playing so it's like okay let's let's get kiko kiko had a good game against carolina yes right
18:51he played pretty well against carolina so i think they're like okay let's let's get him in there and see
18:55what we got like we talked about i think they're not quincy's probably not gonna be part of this team
18:59next year let's see what we have in kiko can he be a starter for us next year that's all well and
19:05good why didn't you trade like is like why like that's what i can't that's the piece i can't figure
19:11out they had to be able to get something for quincy williams and why didn't they just deal him it's a
19:17great question cause and it's something we probably won't find out until after the off until the off
19:21season probably and it by all intensive you're benching him you probably aren't going to keep him
19:25next year so it just it is it's puzzling um so i wanted to talk with the other other guy uh that
19:33clearly was down in the locker room after the deadline you could see it when you guys spoke to
19:37him on camera and breeze hall you know we heard the we saw the rumors like is you know he's requesting a
19:44trade and he's like no i never you know that's out of my hands and also if a team deals me a team deals
19:48me but i i thought it was fascinating guys is like the jets are kind of in this situation where if they did
19:55it's isaiah davis and no one running the football you're putting your offense in a bad spot it's
20:01not like the offense is lighting the world on fire besides against the bengals defense so
20:04i don't know it's like it's like a catch 22 i guess like if you trade him like your your offense
20:09is going to be in a worse spot but if you keep and hold on to him there's a very good chance he's
20:13walking unless you put a transition tag like frankie's talked about in the you know in the off season
20:17so what is your thoughts on how the jets are handling this this priest hall situation
20:21yeah it's complicated like you said i see both sides of it really um i do think it'd be hard
20:29for them to have a functioning offense without breeze hall the rest of the season i i think
20:33he's that important and with braylon allen being her i think that completely changed the calculus of
20:38this whole thing i think if braylon allen had stayed healthy and had emerged as a 1a back
20:44dealing breeze would have been a no-brainer for them uh but with him on the shelf i think it was much
20:50harder yeah i think they're kind of just kicking the can down the road on the decision for next year
20:55uh which they can do i think they can evaluate him for nine more games but he didn't seem like he was
21:01in a good place to me wednesday when we talked to him um you know there was some pushback from the jets
21:07about how we characterized what he said and and what you know at one point he said nah when he was asked
21:14if he was hoping to be traded and they were saying well he said he wasn't hoping but like yeah but he was
21:19kind of wishy-washy it was a lot of words now going on from breeze and there are there's semantic
21:24games to be played two guys like at the trade deadline is like did you request a trade well
21:28maybe breeze didn't request a trade maybe his agent requested a trade and so like if your answer
21:32if you say no you're you're being honest i didn't request the trade but my agent did so
21:36there's semantic games i i think you know breeze has not been happy i'm pretty sure he would have been
21:42thrilled to go somewhere else particularly after he saw sauce and coin and go he was tight with
21:47those guys um but he's here so now you know i thought it was interesting too he referenced
21:54his frustration with how they're coming from behind so much that he's not getting carries
22:01because they have to throw the ball because they're trailing so much so he's a frustrated dude i think
22:06well because you tweeted two days ago you saw breeze hall at practice he was smiling he was smiling
22:12shaking hands how you see being a good teammate yeah it's going to be interesting right uh see
22:20how this plays out i'm curious what his usage is going to look like these last nine games and
22:25how involved they want to make him some people are suggesting i'm not saying this but i've heard
22:31people say watch them put breeze in the doghouse and not want to use him at all to help them in the
22:37i'm like why would they do that like that's i don't agree with that i'm just saying but i've heard
22:41people suggesting that uh breeze's usage will go down in these next nine games but i almost think
22:47more than likely not it could be the opposite uh tanner angstrand is going to look at breeze and say
22:52what can we do with this guy moving forward and how involved do we want him to be because he is the
22:57most dangerous player i would say on our offense yeah you know in terms of someone that could take it 70
23:03yards he's a home run hitter he's the home run exactly he's the home run hitter perfectly said
23:07yeah so yeah curious to see how it plays out i was i was i'm curious also how many offers were
23:14actually there for breeze i know there were you know yeah so yeah i was told by somebody that that
23:20kansas city thing is not true that kansas did not offer a fourth but again like this is like
23:25yeah the trade deadline is similar to the draft of and free agency where
23:30people have agendas and you don't know what for sure it's tough reporting so but i was told that
23:37was not true oh you mean the jets didn't trade players from a top five defense guys
23:42all right guys uh so i do want to spin it forward here a little bit about this jets team
23:51playing the browns this week uh i'm not going to ask you for a key matchup because i just don't think
23:56there's really anything worth highlighting in this game there's a lot of that there is
24:00go ahead miles garrett let's go ahead miles garrett's a superstar ryan i think i think that's
24:09going to be like miles garrett versus your young tackles is a very fascinating matchup to me okay
24:14it's a great one i mean i it's it's a one in 17 and they're i get it but like but but we're talking
24:20about the future right yeah it's like i feel like the one thing you guys feel really good about are
24:24these two tackles going forward right and now this is this is the test this is the i don't know if
24:30you guys watched him against the patriots yeah i did but it was insane unreal holy crap he abused
24:36will campbell he abused him yeah and and morgan moses yeah he was on that side a little bit too and
24:41he used the guards a little bit too when he went inside and like he made the tight end jump off sides
24:46when he lined up on him like he is he is the best you know so like i think this is going to be an
24:54interesting test for your two tackles and also for justin fields to see can he get the ball out of
24:59his hands because you know drake may did a pretty good job getting the ball out of his hands quickly
25:04and he still got sacked was it five times so you know if justin fields is back there holding on to
25:09the ball all day good luck all right i'll say this if justin fields is the quarterback of course guys
25:16yeah we still don't know right he's still on now oh fan duel might know because they're putting his
25:23prop lines out for passing which we'll do later yeah what happens if he doesn't end up starting
25:28for whatever reason would they give you that back i mean it's voided bets if he doesn't play
25:32okay what if he plays like 10 snaps or something then you're screwed
25:35okay oh yeah that's terrible welcome to gambling
25:39i'll say this go ahead frankie give me your key match up here well no no i'm you know i'm gonna
25:46i'm gonna piggyback off of cause's key match up there i think it's their d-line because their d-line
25:50they have two players in their d-line they have alex right who is is uh is a top 10 rated edge by pff
25:57then you have malik collins who is uh who's considered a very good and ascending defensive lineman
26:04who sort of bounced around for his career but sort of settling at home and they obviously have
26:08the fifth overall pick in mason graham that's been playing pretty well also the last couple games so
26:13it's going to be a challenge for our offensive line we'll get a sense of what those guards can do
26:17and i think guard guys is a position that i'm we didn't say this i'm looking at throughout this year
26:23too i want to see what titman looks like and and john simpson and um we have avt still out there
26:28for the future hey rye frankie has the two first round picks going to safety and guard now
26:34i mean it's you can't write it you can't write this build the roster baby bill bringing kurt
26:40literally repeating i think he's trying to make fun the fact that you're literally repeating
26:45what was it 2017 now we're back to 2020 it's all the scene it's like oh they need a safety oh they
26:51need a guard oh we drafted elijah vera tucker oh we drafted jamal adams you saw that worked out
26:55like rebuild life baby it's it's an endless cycle get off the get off the ride change it
27:03change the tune all right let me ask you all right let me ask you guys a quick question
27:08if they're not in love with the quarterback this year why would you have to draft one what are you
27:13going to do in 2027 if you like one of those guys you're gonna draft the quarterback this year
27:16and next year i'm fine with that by the way you could it's the panthers model right jimmy
27:21clauset and cam newton yeah i guess the cardinals did it kind of did it kyler and josh rosen yeah
27:27all right fair enough i we're not there yet frankie we still got nine games to go um
27:34all right trivia time for kaz time to stump him uh it's i think this could be easy because he was at
27:41all three of these games but she three games that sounds like a already this is like a compound
27:48question like they used to call back in second grade huh kaz can you name me the three quarterbacks
27:54the last three quarterbacks that have started for the jets against the browns the last three
28:01quarterbacks who've started for the jets against the browns um so the last game was 2023 so that would
28:12have been simeon that is correct that's one that's a nice one nice pull i think that was the hard one
28:18the one before that was the flacko game bang that's two guys gary wilson game winning touchdown
28:27yeah i got wilson so i'm trying to remember if there was a game between 2018 and 2022 against the browns
28:36you guys do play them a lot that's what i'm struggling to remember but i will go if there
28:43was a game most likely sam darl was the starting quarterback against the browns because three
28:49three was it 2018 right 2020 2020 okay the covid year but he was the starter that's right when baker
28:56had no wide receivers and remember that oh right right right when they came in yes and they just
29:01okay that's a crazy game uh so i didn't get cause that's good that's a good pull by that was a good
29:07pull simeon was a simeon is a tough one that's yeah yeah you know who simeon was playing in that
29:12game in 2023 who the other quarterback was yeah it was flacko that's right yeah wow but jermaine
29:18when jermaine jermaine had the pick six the browns and jets are very incestuous with each other like
29:24it's just they are it's crazy last place last place teams play each other and they've been these two
29:30teams have been in the last place a lot
29:31so yeah it was yeah it was years where we went to green bay we went i'm sorry we went to cleveland
29:35every single year like i think like 16 17 18 we're in cleveland every year yeah it's uh it's it's
29:44always fun to play the browns um over under over under uh it's been a couple weeks guys but
29:51kaz was five and oh uh his last time up and frankie was three and two to remind everyone the season total
29:56uh kaz is 29 25 plus four units and frankie is 24 and 30 you're down six units so with that being
30:04said let's start with the quarterback that might be starting or might not be starting in justin fields
30:11they have him according to fanduel at 168 and a half pass yards i'll start with kaz 168 and a half pass
30:18yards for justin fields under oh my god under that's a low that's a low total
30:25yeah that's very low defense is good oh god i already know what his prediction is gonna be
30:32good good frankie i'm going over baby yeah i think the only vulnerability with that browns defense is
30:38their secondary yeah thank you only which isn't a big vulnerability by the way but it's the only one so
30:43how about the opposing quarterback dylan gabriel 186 and a half pass yards kaz
30:49that's okay uh you got it dylan gabriel dylan gabriel what was the number 186 and a half pass yards
30:59uh under wow kaz is looking for an awesome offensive game this weekend it'd be pouring rain right
31:07sunday too i don't know is it yes oh god supposed to yeah can i change my pick and i'm kidding
31:14frankie go ahead all right now i'll take the under i'll take dylan gabriel's under uh we get ryan right
31:23can we get an over under on people in the building on sunday it's got to be a good one ten thousand
31:27it's got to be less i'd love to actually be able to get our hands on those numbers the real numbers
31:32of attendance and they raised ticket prices on everyone before the before the deadline that was
31:37great great move by the jets there uh garrett wilson 52 and a half receiving yards making his return
31:42from the injury thank you go first on this one over baby over okay 52 and a half that's a good number
31:54uh i'm gonna go under uh okay let's talk about the other number one wide receiver for the browns
32:02jerry judy 40 and a half receiving yards 40 wow over yeah jets playing without sauce this week
32:11he is unfortunately on my fantasy team i know jerry judy all too well this year i'm going way under
32:18okay he's been awful this year uh breeze hall 64 and a half rush yards guys over
32:27frankie under okay and i'm gonna catch you this week i have a feeling quinshawn juggins 81 and a half rush yards
32:41whoa
32:41frank yesio first that's a big number it's a big number and i'm going and i'm going over yeah
32:52i don't blame you he's good he is pretty good he's been a little banged up but i'm gonna go under i'm
32:58gonna go under on that right it's too rich a number for me that is a big number 81 and a half wow
33:03yeah i'd like it over here are the two i want over under on attendance and i want over on total punts
33:10right you have total punts in the game no that's a good one because that's that is over bang me over
33:16to me because i think this is going to be i think this is going to be a heavy heavy punt day yeah
33:21one shocked me um but the jets rush defense is so bad it's going to get me worse now without quinnon
33:27um all right fellas let's pick this game causes five and three i'm five and three frankie's three
33:33and five the jets were favored at two points before the trade deadline after trading sauce and
33:38quinnon it flipped all the way to browns minus two and a half now is the favorite at met life
33:44i'll start with frankie give me your pick all right guys um i read a quote about this game okay and the
33:53quote was this game is when a stoppable force meets a movable object that's what we got here
34:00you get that reference yeah okay um these two teams are bad okay they're not very good um
34:09the brown strength with their defense is uh is our weakness in our ability to really establish a
34:19running game for the most part the last couple weeks i feel like we really aren't consistently
34:23running the ball um and our quarterback loves to hold on to the ball forever as we know and they
34:30have one of the best pass rushes in the nfl they're actually ranked by pff and i bring them up all the
34:35time but they're ranked the best pass rush in the nfl everything's pointing to cleveland winning
34:40everything right the tight ends that they love to use we struggle against tight end tight ends of 122
34:47rating against us so quarterbacks do throwing the tight ends i'm picking the jets though baby
34:53it's i'm back on boys this is a big week for us the good energy's here i'm feeling good i got a little
35:01light in this tunnel i'm seeing it aaron glenn had his best presser i think of the year even though
35:07those comments initially every year it was it was good i liked it he was talking about opportunity and i
35:13i gotta make this team better muji came out there and said you know we're we're doing this the right
35:18way garrett wilson believes in the vision garrett's back we're playing winning football right we're
35:24playing winning football right now that's what muji says too we're playing we're we're becoming a
35:29all about all about cleveland right all about cleveland that's it frankie why don't you tell
35:35cause about your defense tweet what was my defense tweet now that sauce and quinnon are gone
35:40oh cause i have this weird feeling that now that sauce and quinnon are gone that uh
35:45this defense could actually be better
35:46and considering the aaron glenn steve wilks very heavy man kind of system you know one gap kind of
35:58flow i think the most jets fan tweet ever right there oh my god all right so what's your score
36:06prediction your chop like chopping your arm off and thinking i might be better at basketball now
36:11one arm i never could go to my left anyway that's actually pretty good what's your score frankie
36:2024 21 that many points uh yeah i do i think uh i have a feeling i have a feeling garrett's gonna
36:31have a little day breeze and the breeze catching passes i think watch them get a nice screen game
36:37going there they're a little bit susceptible i know they're their linebacker who i really like
36:41cleveland carson schwestinger who i actually wanted to draft not that we needed a linebacker but um
36:47he uh he's he's hurt um uh stand in the tight end yeah yeah yeah they have a bunch of practice
36:54he mispracticed thursday so yeah um schwestinger has a high ankle sprain yeah judge judge kids is
37:01coming off of ac sprain join uh join joint sprain join sprain uh yeah yeah um yeah they have
37:08they're a little banged up but yeah honestly guys i think uh the way the offense looked last time we
37:13played all jokes aside i thought was very impressive i know it was against a cincinnati team um i think
37:18they're going to keep the ball rolling a little bit they're not going to look as good as they did
37:20against cincinnati but i think it'll be enough i don't trust dylan gabriel too especially in bad
37:25weather so i'm taking the jets 24 21 cause do you guys have any like projects at home that you've
37:33been putting off clean out the garage right right you have anything at home uh i'm gonna do some
37:38leaves uh well it's gonna be raining i got thinking more indoor projects maybe there was a room you need
37:45to clean out maybe there's you know some pictures you need to hang or like a meal prep you know
37:50something yeah one and four sunday is a good time to do it because i don't think anyone wants to
37:56watch this football game it's gonna be this is going to be a rock fight um it's gonna be ugly
38:04and so i will take the jets to win this rock fight 17 13 what is happening i just feel like you know what
38:14i think when there's trades like this happen you go one of two ways like you get bag it or like you
38:20can be the rallying cry of us against the world and that kind of thing i think the jets will get
38:25that for one week i think that will work i think they will feel like everyone's counting us out
38:29we're gonna play well and it helps that they're playing the browns it's like it's like the old
38:34days of having the team meeting before you played the royals you know i was always my favorite thing
38:38like how are the yankees they had a team meeting before they played the royals when the royals were
38:41like 105 lost team but yeah okay the team meeting is gonna work tonight you're playing it's crap team
38:47so i think the jets get the little boost this week and win ugly 17 13 wow both you guys picking the
38:55jets one little come on ryan come on he's not he's not gonna pick them cause i one little flaw in your
39:02argument there you had me almost there with the player reading cause the yankees are still the
39:06yankees 27 world championships this new york jets team is the worst football franchise in the nfl
39:12and they're putting right there against the browns both of them are fighting for who's worse and who's
39:17more dysfunctional so let's be real guys the jets are a dysfunctional mess aaron glenn isn't proud of
39:22this team now he doesn't tell you guys that but ultimately no one's proud of this team i hate this
39:28team in terms of what they put out in the field it's not been good it's not been pretty i'm picking
39:33the browns and i'm telling you why i'm going to pick the browns i think the jets fellas are going
39:38to sack dylan gabriel and guess who's going to get banged up in this game dylan gabriel and guess
39:43who's coming into this game shador sanders and guess what this is going to be the coming out of
39:49shador to the nfl and he's going to come i can see that a comeback win the jets will be up early like 10
39:56the jets will be up early like 10-3 like you're like oh you're feeling okay you're playing the baker
40:01mayfield game from 2018 yep this will be the game dylan gabriel gets banged up and shador has to be
40:07forced to go in there and then everyone on the cleveland brown silence going why didn't we play
40:12this guy from week one why did we go with joe flacco and dylan gabriel over him and he's going
40:16to lead a comeback win over a jet secondary that is god awful and that jerry judy is actually going
40:22to let up the scoreboard this week i got the browns big 21 10 over the jets yeah i can see that right
40:30that's a good one should do her i yeah i could see him make i i actually was thinking that being
40:34in the season that's this is probably when he'd make his starting debut was against the jets but
40:38yeah coming off the bench that would work that would work will the jets get an interception in this game
40:44i think they are okay i do i think i think it's it's our boy brandon stevens if i had to make a
40:50prediction i think this will sauce gardener get an interception in berlin probably
40:54there you go a pick six probably the first thing you're gonna see when you turn on the tv
41:02turn on the tv roll over it's 955 oh who's number one on the cults
41:08you guys know who actually had the last interception versus the browns for the jets defense
41:14the last jermaine johnson that's right twice in a row he's got it he's on it today he's on it today
41:22maybe jermaine will get another one maybe you'll get another one they're gonna need it uh fellas
41:27that's an episode of gangs all here uh as always fans hit that like hit that subscribe button on the
41:31new york post sports youtube channel we'll look forward to causes coverage all throughout the
41:35weekend uh on week 10 jets browns two and a half point dog at home in that life we'll see how many
41:40fans show up maybe we'll get the over under from cars and actual reporting what the attendance is there
41:44and uh we'll talk to you next week guys as we trudge along for this new york jets four week next
41:50week short week oh that's right thursday night football new england baby in new england yikes
41:56frankie cause talk to you guys later
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