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04:02Welcome to Beyond the Tape. I'm your host, Mark Gossan.
04:12Of course, welcome to our viewers across Trinidad and Tobago, our international viewers and our brothers and sisters in the Isles of Grenada.
04:20Yes, it's Wednesday. It's smack in the middle of the week. It's legally speaking Wednesdays and none other than the Tenient Law and Director of Policy and Community Support at the Homeland Security Ministry is with us, Sahir Ali. Welcome, sir.
04:34Thank you very much, Mark. I see you have gotten it correct this afternoon.
04:38Indeed.
04:38I want to thank you very much. And I don't know whether, you know, you were doing some investigative journalism on my good self. I'm seeing that we are similarly dressed.
04:46Indeed.
04:47And that's, you know, when you're similarly dressed, you know, sometimes it can be, you know, to your advantage or your disadvantage. I hope that's, you know, to our advantage this afternoon.
04:54But it's a pleasure to be here, but it's a pleasure to be here, as always, Mark. Good afternoon to Jackie and other family members in Beyond the Tape, various team group, you know, who is responsible for us and guiding us, you know, through all the proceedings.
05:09My law enforcement colleagues, supporting agencies, very important. Persons who are viewing and listening to the program, you know, Mark, out of the jurisdiction.
05:20And most importantly, the citizenry of Trinidad and Tobago. You know, when I hear you refer to the title, you know, apart from the policy context, when I, you know, hear the community support, you know, that manifests with me in relation to the importance of the role and responsibility.
05:38But, Mark, I want to begin this afternoon, you know, before we proceed, you know, based on the open source, based on the public record, I want to take this opportunity to express congratulations.
05:50to Team Prime, in the recent concluded Trinidad and Tobago Police Service Welfare Association elections, preliminary results.
06:03And, you know, one of our colleagues who appear on Beyond the Tape, Mr. Ishmael Pitt, you know, as president.
06:08And, you know, sometimes we have also ASP OE Russell, who appears sometimes.
06:13So, you know, to both individuals and the entire team of Team Prime, you know, congratulations to you.
06:19And I want to signal to you immediately the important role and functions and responsibility that the membership have, you know, placed in you, especially in the times that, you know, we are in.
06:30And, you know, I want to publicly reach out to you this afternoon and to let you know that I'm prepared and ready to lend that support to you and the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service in the different capacity to be able to move the police service
06:44to greater heights, to be able to deal with this issue of crime and criminality in Trinidad and Tobago.
06:51Mark, you know, it would be remiss of me as well if I do not engage you immediately here this afternoon.
07:00You know, when you hear about an association, I'm speaking from a police service association, how important do you think an association,
07:08and I'm going to pitch it to you in terms of the media association of Trinidad and Tobago, how important do you think bodies like those are or is, as the case may be,
07:16how important do you think that those bodies and the purpose that they are set up for, you know, what's your perspective on those sort of bodies?
07:24Well, I think those associations act as a bulwark for employees, first and foremost, because you, with an association, you know, you, as a worker, you have rights,
07:33and it's important that those rights are at least in some way represented by the association so that you are treated fairly and equally in your workplace.
07:44So, you see it as, you know, heavily grounded in relation to representation?
07:51I would say so.
07:52Okay, and, you know, if you were to advise Mr. Pitt and the executive this afternoon, you know, newly elected, new to association business,
08:03what would you, you know, advise them this afternoon in terms of their election success and especially what's happening from a TTPS context?
08:12What are the first advice you may give to them?
08:13All right, good question.
08:14Of course, I want to congratulate my colleague.
08:17It seems that persons that are appearing on this show are rising in stature in terms of job specs.
08:26You then are now ASP Pitt, of course, and we, Russell, of course, who also appears on this program from time to time.
08:33But what I can say, I know that ASP Pitt was here last week, and we just had a very informal discussion about some of the things that needs to be righted by the Police Service Association as they represent officers, right?
08:47And I remember a caller calling in and saying that, you know, there are things that you should oppose the commissioner.
08:54It doesn't work like that, of course, but there are things that need to be fixed in the service from the perspective of the police officers so that it will be reflective of how they do their jobs and how they're receptive to the public as well.
09:09So it goes hand in hand, I think, in trying to address some of the situations or concerns or problems, rather, that the police officers of the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service faces as they try to execute their jobs for the greater public.
09:25I think, and I'm happy that you said that, you know, especially when you're speaking about the Police Service Association, I view it as a very unique association, and unique in the context where it must be looked at in its context.
09:41When you've seen police officers who have a statutory duty to prevent and detect crime, it's a very, very unique responsibility, notwithstanding that you're in an association context.
09:52You are still a police officer.
09:54So, you know, I want to urge Mr. Pitt and the association to fulfill their role and functions diligently, jealously for the membership of the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service.
10:05And when you say the membership, you're speaking about the better and the greater good of the police service, but at the same time recognizing their important responsibility as part of the law enforcement group in whatever area that they may be, whether it be in the Northern Division, whether it be in the Western Division, their role and responsibility.
10:21So, I'll end this aspect of it, Mark, by advising these parties on behalf of the people of Trinidad and Tobago and actually where I sit under the Ministry of Homeland Security to try and strike a proper balance with reference to the best interest of the TTPS with the interest of your membership.
10:38Yes, certainly.
10:39And I guess as time goes on, we'll have a more extensive conversation during the course of the show.
10:47But again, we want to congratulate Team Prime, it is.
10:50Team Prime.
10:50This is τοisone.
10:51Yes, P. Pitt, the new president, at least the preliminary results suggest such.
10:57And the vice president, Mr. Owe Russell, yes.
10:59Based on preliminary results.
11:01All right.
11:01So, we'll see how it goes.
11:03And I'm almost at least that those gentlemen really have been embedded in the TTPS for quite a while and they know what is needed for the assistance.
11:13and I guess for the greater good of the police officers of the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service.
11:17Yes, and Mark, may I just say one more thing in relation to that?
11:19And the reason why I open it, you know, in reflecting on the results,
11:22but the importance of the association.
11:24You know, when you want a TTPS to function
11:27and function properly for the people of Trinidad and Tobago,
11:30you need a highly motivated staff.
11:34And I would not go to advise the association,
11:36but I know that there are a number of matters
11:38as it relates to uplifting the motivation of all ranks.
11:43It would be of critical importance to the new executive.
11:45And hence why I'm speaking like this,
11:48because while I may be wearing a different hat,
11:52in my vein is to protect and serve with pride.
11:57And, you know, I want to see a brilliant organization.
11:59I want to see an excellent organization.
12:01And I want to see, you know, persons who are dedicated and committed
12:06to ensure that they move this TTPS.
12:07We all are reliant on the TTPS.
12:10And by extension, other state agencies.
12:12But the TTPS has been the primary body.
12:14And we should only be doing good for that organization.
12:18So hence why I'm calling on the association to be very balanced
12:20in how they, you know, go forward with their legal mandate,
12:25their association mandate,
12:27and to really assist in addressing some of the nagging issues.
12:31And, you know, there are a number of issues that, you know,
12:33from a policy context I'll be looking at.
12:35And perhaps, you know, through formal protocols, you know,
12:38I want to engage them to see our best.
12:40You know, we can move those processes.
12:42But a very important time in the status quo of the police service.
12:48So I thought it was important, you know, to begin this afternoon on that matter.
12:51So thank you very much for allowing me.
12:53Most certainly.
12:54All right.
12:54So the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service held an exercise at the nation's prisons
13:00last night at Saturday around 10 o'clock and finished this morning around 2.30 a.m.
13:06It was coordinated by Commissioner of Police Alistair Guevara,
13:10as well as Acting Commissioner of Prisons Mr. Hayden Ford,
13:13Deputy Commissioner of Police Suzette Martin,
13:16and Senior Superintendent Lee Davis.
13:19Also included ASP Stanley, Acting Corporal Williams,
13:23Acting Corporal Hyde, WPC Joseph,
13:25PC Gibson, Frabagas, and PC Parsons.
13:29Now, during this operation, officers were able to recover the following items.
13:3414 cell phones, 12 SIM cards, 10 USB cords, 15 cell phone chargers,
13:405 headsets, a quantity of marijuana, a quantity of loose cigarettes,
13:45several packs of wrapping paper, 1 litre cocoa bottle with a false bottom,
13:503 improvised weapons, 1 flick knife, 1 silver spoon.
13:54A total of 8 inmates are expected to be formally charged in the coming weeks
13:58for various offences arising out of this operation.
14:01It's an ongoing operation in the nation's prisons as we try to rid the prisons of contraband.
14:07Sergeant.
14:08Well, Mark, I'm very interested, and I want to, you know,
14:11acknowledge the work of the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service,
14:13led by, you know, the Commissioner of Police,
14:16and the Deputy Commissioner of Police, and other senior officers on both
14:19the prison authorities and the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service.
14:23You know, Mark, you know, just reflecting, sometime last year, you know,
14:29I had the opportunity to go before Joint Select Committee on National Security back then.
14:35And, you know, when the questions were posed, you know, I recall distinctly
14:42addressing the Joint Select Committee and identifying a particular legislation
14:49that, at the time I recognize, may not have been fully utilized in relation to where the crime and criminality,
14:57or I should say the response to crime and criminality,
15:00specifically from a prison's context.
15:02And that legislation, and we are legally speaking as well,
15:06the Miscellaneous Provisioned Law Enforcement Act,
15:10that amended the Prison Service Act,
15:12to create a wider and broader definition of the issue of prohibited article.
15:18And the items that you have identified quite succinctly here this afternoon,
15:23goes squarely in the area of prohibited article, which creates a criminal offense.
15:27So, I'm happy to see, months later, that the operations, as it relates to the prison,
15:34and we know, based on the intelligence,
15:38that prompted the state of emergency, in the first instance, and continue to do so,
15:42would have stemmed from activities within the prison's domain.
15:46So, I want to acknowledge the work of the commissioner, both prison and the TTPS,
15:50and, you know, and urge them to continue to go deep into the prison in relation to items that are smuggled into the prison.
16:01But it's important for me to say to the general, citizenry of Trinidad and Tobago, now,
16:05that you need to understand that these phones,
16:11someone may have purchased these phones,
16:13knowing that it will be procured into the prisons.
16:16Someone may have aided or facilitated these phones,
16:19knowing that it will be going into the prisons.
16:20And the someone, based on intelligence,
16:25are also law enforcement officials.
16:28So, I want to urge the citizenry of Trinidad and Tobago,
16:31that when we see things like these,
16:32where, what should be a confined environment,
16:35what should be an environment that is rid of any legal contraband,
16:39or instruments that can be used to facilitate crime,
16:43case in point, SIM cards, cellular phones.
16:47I want to ask the citizenry to do our introspection.
16:50Reconnect with yourself and ascertain whether, in fact,
16:53you want to be engaged in these activities.
16:56I've advised, once while I was in the TTPS,
16:59strongly that it should not only be confined to persons who are in possession,
17:04whether actual or constructive, within the prison,
17:05but investigate it to reach the person who are enjoying some level of freedom,
17:12but instrumental in providing the instruments,
17:16so that persons who are inmates could use to facilitate criminal activity.
17:20So, again, I hope that the investigations are widened,
17:24but I salute the work, excellent work on the part of the TTPS and prisons,
17:28and, you know, I hope that we can commute a bill on the great success.
17:31And may I say as well, Mark, that if we really do diligent inquiry,
17:35you may be surprised to see what can be annotated in relation to some of those devices
17:39that we are coming into contact with.
17:43Yeah, certainly.
17:44All right, it's day 111 of the state of emergency.
17:47We want to bring you up to speed with the figures.
17:51Number of operations, 7,986.
17:53Target priority offenders, 2,711.
17:56Searches conducted, 53,244.
17:59Traffic operations, 5,385.
18:02Total persons arrested, 3,553.
18:04Total persons charged, 2,207.
18:07Traffic offenses detected, 31,646 farms.
18:12Recovered in total, 197.
18:13We had a rise in pistols of 88.
18:15Ammunition recovered, 2,531 rounds.
18:19We had a rise in 0.4 of 123 rounds.
18:22And the dangerous drug seized pretty much remained the same from yesterday.
18:27Mark, let me pose another question to you this afternoon.
18:30You know, since you are answering so well,
18:32please permit me to pose another question to you.
18:35That 88, I think, pistols, I think I saw in red.
18:39Producer, can you just...
18:41That 88 pistols, correct?
18:42Yes.
18:43So my, you know, my memory serves me well.
18:47Can you say with any level of certainty
18:50that whether directly or indirectly,
18:53you would have contributed to that retrieval of 88 pistols?
18:56You don't need to answer that, Mark.
18:58You know, I know that where you sit.
19:00But, you know, I pose that question to you
19:02and hope that it will now mushroom to the citizenry of Trinidad and Tobago.
19:07Please, citizens of Trinidad and Tobago, please ask yourself.
19:11Mark has read some very interesting statistics.
19:14We acknowledge the work of the law enforcement agencies
19:18and, by extension, the citizenry with reference to these statistics.
19:23And I encourage and I commend you.
19:25But I want to ask a person's question.
19:27While we may be sitting on our sofa, we may be in the kitchen,
19:31we may be out in the yard listening or viewing the program,
19:33ask yourself whether you have contributed to those 88 pistols
19:37or whether you think that you can contribute to building the number of,
19:43whether it be pistols or high-powered rifles.
19:46Ask yourself that question and see whether we are making our contribution.
19:49That's a question for all of us.
19:50That's a good one, Mr. Ali.
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23:16Welcome back to Legally Speaking, Gwensers.
23:31I'm your host, Mark Pussan.
23:32Of course, joined today by the Director of Policy and Community Support of the Homeland Security Ministry,
23:38Zaheer Ali and Netanyah Law.
23:41And we just wanted to give you an update, of course.
23:43We had mentioned the missing retired fire officer who had been missing since last Friday.
23:50And a body was found a couple days later in the Komoto area.
23:53And apparently was later identified by his relatives.
23:58The body was taken to the Forensics Science Center.
24:01And an autopsy yesterday revealed that Mr. Alonzo was shot twice and his hands tied behind his back.
24:10So certainly, if you recall, on last Friday, he left his home with his Nissan Note vehicle from Ojai Road, Sangu, Ghana,
24:22and went to his workshop in the coal mine area.
24:25And apparently, one of the neighbors there said that he would have seen Mr. Alonzo in the workshop for a little bit.
24:32And then, around 6 o'clock, he passed by and he saw the workshop open, which was very peculiar because Mr. Alonzo never leaves the workshop open.
24:43And somebody said they would have spotted him the last driving along the eastern main road.
24:47And that was the last they saw of him until, unfortunately, they found his body dumped in the Komoto area.
24:53And I think the police are still trying to locate the vehicle.
24:56Well, Mark, you know, I'll have to rely on your reporting this afternoon and, you know, extend my condolences to the family.
25:04If, in fact, that body has been positively identified as the fire officer.
25:08You know, it's, I know it was, you know, reported, you know, in the Daily Express as well.
25:13So I want to thank you very much for, you know, bringing the citizenry up to date in relation to the fine.
25:19And I said before, condolences to the family.
25:21But, Mark, you know, it's important, very unfortunate situation and, you know, it brings me to, again, to remind the citizenry of Trinidad and Tobago, you know, to always be paying attention to your loved ones or your neighbors, your relatives and, you know, so that you'll be able to detect any, you know, unusual occurrences.
25:40And that point that you made where a person purportedly would have indicated that when they pass by the shop is not a usual pattern of conduct in relation to the individual.
25:53So, you know, let's pay attention to our loved ones, you know, our relatives, our friends, our neighbors, and, you know, let's maintain that relationship with them.
26:00So at least we can determine, for example, if they're doing a victimology on this individual.
26:04Is it that this individual may have reported threats in the past?
26:07Is it that this individual may have been in a domestic situation?
26:10Is it that this individual may have been, you know, exposed in one way or the other to any adversities?
26:17So it's important for us, you know, to, you know, care for each other, look out for each other, because, as I said before, Mark, we are already facing an uphill task.
26:26We are facing a great challenge with crime and criminality.
26:28And as I said before, every single corner or every single area is impacted where we have crime and criminality.
26:37So, again, unfortunate situation and members of the public, anyone with useful information or intelligence, however small it may be,
26:44please, you know, bring it forward, send it forward in whatever channel that you may choose.
26:49That can just be the piece of information or intelligence that is required for detection to bring justice to this, to the deceased and members of his family.
26:59Yes, and another troubling aspect of crime, of course, as we have spoken about this on many occasions, is that crime of home invasions.
27:08And, unfortunately, a family in the Philippine area, just on the outskirts of San Fernando, this morning suffered a home invasion, where six men invaded their home.
27:19Let's take a listen.
27:20Let's take a listen.
27:50And the other point, they got at me.
27:52Where the money?
27:52Where the money?
27:53Right?
27:54So, I told them, I said, hey, what, I get public assistance.
27:56I don't have no money.
27:57I don't have no money.
27:59And they only insist, where the money?
28:00Where the money?
28:01Six of them, six of them, but gone.
28:03Right?
28:04So, I was in the room.
28:06She was in the room.
28:07My little son was in the room.
28:08And my next son was in the room.
28:10He was, because he had a bomb went to the room.
28:12So, there were four of us in that room.
28:14Right?
28:14So, I don't know what was going on in the next room.
28:17Because six of them, and we had to be in the first room.
28:19right so there's only action with the gun with with the money with the money i said i don't have
28:24no money i i i taking public assistance they say um they said i hit me they hit my one gun but here
28:31in my head then they hit me a next gun but in my eye right and then they hit my one gun but
28:38in my lip i will this feature right all right and i'm the tie they say tie up tie up all of them
28:45so they tie what the tie strap me the tie strap she the tie well that's what i see in a new room
28:51because i was in your room just try to tie strap all of even down to my little son which is seven
28:55years old this tie strap here and they they they what is duct tape they duct tape all the way foot
29:01so we can't move well listen there's still churn the whole house they break it it's six of them
29:06so it's like i invasion and 600 so johnny house and whatsoever we didn't know what was going on
29:11in the next two because remember we four of us in the first room then he do so and he put me in the
29:18living room and he started kick me kick me and cough me right and when he started kick me and cough me
29:24now he he pulled back the tie strap and he tell me to go inside the room and he i've gone back in your
29:29room right when i'm going back in the room well they turn over the whole room the whole room they turn
29:35nobody whole house they turn over and that was it uh let me just say before you interject um director
29:45that uh i know the prime minister has made a pronunciation of on this um while speaking to
29:51the media a couple hours ago and what she did say is that the intent to bring the standing of young
29:57legislation to parliament before the end of the year because she believes that this will in some way
30:03help to bring relief to families well mark you know just listening to the interview
30:10and the remarks from the victims of that particular crime very heinous crime and the injuries are visible
30:19um you know it's very troubling and i know this issue of what we have termed home invasion
30:27has been around over the last couple months more so yeah and has caused very serious concern
30:35and i'm happy that you mentioned the honorable prime minister of chanelada and tobago who
30:39um is very much concerned about these matters and you know i am aware that she also
30:48gave a directive to focus on the standard wrong legislation um but perhaps stable it in parliament
30:56for debate to be able to afford some protection to the homeowners in relation to what we are seeing
31:01here and you know i welcome that and you know i standing by honorable prime minister um and other
31:07stakeholders to be able to support whether it be policy community um with reference to assisting
31:13the citizenry um to be able to respond to these matters but mark let me just take it a little bit
31:18further not withstanding the stand your ground legislation um as a legislative intervention it has six
31:28persons based on the report it's somewhere in trinidad and tobago as we speak six persons who
31:35troubled a family troubled the children we heard a seven-year-old child
31:41was being exposed to that
31:47heinous crime and only god knows whether in fact that child will be able to recover from that experience
31:55and that is what troubles me deeply in terms of where these six persons are somewhere
32:01in the presence of some persons
32:02i want to urge the detectives to be very very assertive in relation to pursuing this investigation
32:14because i'm certain that these six persons that the person has described it's not the first time that
32:18they have um engaged in what we call home invasion or maybe probably other crimes and those who are aware
32:27so where these persons are let us let us feel the pain of that family i always said on this program that mark
32:34if your head hurts my two must feel the pain otherwise something wrong
32:39we cannot be on a platform promoting the public interest from a media context from a
32:45now a ministry of homeland security context and previously from a strict law enforcement context
32:50and if your head hurting i'm not feeling the pain to the cities we have children out and tobago place
32:56yourself in that situation 3am any morning you and your family tied up duct tape in a room and you and
33:04and there's grievous bodily harm because we saw a break of the skin and who knows the injuries that
33:11in terms of in terms of blood clots and so forth because you're hearing gun butts very troubling scenario
33:18and um you know i really call any citizenry of trinidad and tobago to get involved in relation to these matters
33:24um this time you're growing mark from a sanctions perspective from in terms of penalties for this sort of crime
33:32very interesting if you look at the orthodox burglary and housebreaking and larceny
33:38you see that they are very petty sanctions so from a legislative context we need to of course you
33:45know provide some deterrent but it also requires some excellent intelligence gathering and policing
33:50to be able to get to the bottom of this in relation to those individuals there they are somewhere and
33:54someone know about them yes right please and last but not least mark why we are seeing these persons
33:59alive to give an account you know a blood clot could lead to a murder subsequently someone could die
34:07subsequently emerging from the injuries so even if we are not seen a murder or heard about a murder
34:13in this scenario it doesn't mean that someone cannot die subsequently where they die as a direct cause of
34:19the injuries that they um sustain in relation to that incident so again very unfortunate situation but
34:26let us step out and let us lend that support in whatever way we could both from a citizenry context
34:32and from a law enforcement context thanks a lot director of course we're going to take a short
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38:24welcome back to be on the tape it's legally speaking wednesdays i'm your host mark wasan
38:28of course accompanied today by director of policy and community support of the homeland security
38:34ministry attorney zaheer ali it's a long portfolio yeah all right we have our first call on the line
38:44caller good evening and welcome to be on the tape the directors in the house right good evening mr mark
38:50marsan and could ask good evening director ali thank you very much sir i'm going to do a trend analysis of
39:01how i am seeing the police reacting to several situations and i'm going back to your discourse where
39:12published mischief must not be proliferation of it during this time now one of the things i have seen
39:23and i i'm not too sure if the police acting on it and and i will give you four instances where
39:32i believe from my brand it is public mischief one of this is when pepper sauce news source said okay
39:39the president bolted the second one another cyber crime where there was a crosshair on the prime minister
39:49resident the third and i'm bringing this into the domain the third is today on uh have we just circulated
40:03with the next cv host where uh uh one of the the hosts on that video pointed basically to assassinate or
40:13go after the prime minister 35 of a cabinet minister and then i'm going to jump to pose another public
40:20mischief with the president of the news association because i think he committed a heinous
40:27the best possible crime when he said the icu there will be no place for unvaccinated people in the icu and
40:38now he is in the in the public again telling patients don't go to public institution the ncrt so those are
40:48four four four four four four instances i'm not seeing the police taking action and i want to go
40:56back in history about a year ago i was on the radio station again with the then co-host who is now the
41:03minister of defense um yes homeland security minister and i asked him about the lady who said jump the
41:14wall and deal with it you're still having that sort of genius activity and you mentioned it today
41:20you know there is still mark is for you and before this is to interrogate two instances that happened
41:27the death of a venezuelan child by the coast guard we have not seen anything about it and the death of a
41:33soldier in the guy um the grenadine water where one of our own with a joint activity in grenada
41:43we have not heard he's still in a submarine and the fourth estate is not prosecuting that not trying
41:48to get information that is for you to answer and the other part of my earlier statement is for the
41:54director to shed some life because he has tagged the police where they are in all of these supposedly
42:02contentious situation have a nice evening thanks a lot caller uh certainly uh please call in the future
42:09try to keep it a little shorter because there are other persons that are trying to call in and
42:13obviously you know it just being considered is something important so just bear that in mind uh
42:19but thanks director you want to go ahead first well thank you very much um caller for your submissions
42:25mark i saw that the caller have placed or has expanded or have empowered my mandate where he has asked me
42:31to basically ask the ttps about those matters that he has raised um call i will try my best um
42:41to you know look at it you know cause some actions to be taken um or some inquiries to be conducted but
42:46what i can say to you is that the honorable minister of homeland security and other cabinet ministers
42:52this issue with the oral statements and publications i spoke about it on the last occasion
42:58and i'm going to give the undertaking to the national community that the honorable minister of homeland
43:03security is looking at that particular area very closely and perhaps in the very near future you may
43:09see something unfolding with reference to trying to tighten up um with reference of dealing with
43:15those issues and you know i want to just follow the protocols not to disclose too much but because
43:19you have raised the issue i just want to give you the assurance that it's not going unseen we are seeing
43:25the prevalence of these public statements as i said mark as an attorney i'm all for allowing or ensuring
43:34that persons have a freedom of expression and opinion very important it it is it is it is um healthy
43:42for the democracy of trinidad and tobago similarly the media having a a right of the press but when you are
43:49extending that freedom and or that right that you enjoy where no infringes or influence an opinion
43:57that may be prejudicial to public safety is where we are running into problems so again i want to take
44:02this opportunity again this afternoon based on the callers prompting to advise the city of trinidad and
44:08tobago that we are still in a state of emergency there are very serious offenses in the law book i have
44:14spoken about the sedition act i have spoken about the um under emergency powers regulations i've spoken
44:22about the common law in terms of incitement where violence is concerned i'm i've spoken about the
44:27anti-terrorism mark very serious pieces of legislation that creates criminal offenses with very hefty penalties
44:34mark so my my my fellow brothers and sisters my the citizenry of trinidad and tobago please be
44:40responsible you can't comment you can't participate in the democracy of philadelphia and tobago but be
44:46careful that you are not bothering on any one of the um or contravening any one of these legislation
44:51and i'm putting it to you because i believe in education i believe in alerting the citizenry you know
44:58so you're not operating ignorance even if you don't have the time to read the law book there's no defense
45:04so i'm assisting you with mark this platform be on the tape the voice of the people look at there
45:11so we are encouraging you to ensure that you tailor your expressions your opinions and not be
45:18infringing or impacting public safety and security and caller thank you again for raising the issues
45:23and um as i said before the honorable minister of homeland security and other cabinet ministers are
45:28looking very closely at this matter and perhaps in the very near future you will see some pronouncements
45:33if not some other matters unfolding with our front cities matters so please um bear with us and be
45:39responsible yes i'm calling you raise two issues as you directed it at uh my good self of course and i
45:44would have written about that submissible in which the uh the coast guard officer would have uh would
45:50have passed and of course that incident with the venezuelan uh um a child was shot and killed and let me be very
45:57clear that uh it's not that we have not been asking uh for answers as it relates to these uh particular
46:04matters i myself have been writing quite uh extensively about the children adam tobago defense
46:09force and coast guard over the last few months and you send the questions and you ask particular things
46:15but you're almost met with definite silence most of the times so please don't think that we are not
46:20trying to get answers for the public mark i just want to engage you on one thing before you you move on
46:27if you can kindly use and i'm advocating on behalf of the citizenry can you use your good office
46:34or a colleague of the media to emphasize the emergency powers regulations that speaks to oral and other
46:44statements can you emphasize that in maybe one of your special reporting or maybe on the tv6 news or
46:50any morning program it's important for us to continue to place any domain so that our citizen
46:55will recognize some people may become passionate you know we have you know politics in our blood
47:00sometimes but we have to understand that where the rule of law is concerned we must be extra vigilant
47:05and careful if you could assist me i'll appreciate that i'd certainly i will keep that in mind of course
47:09thank you all right director we have to go to a break so we're going to take a break and uh we'll be back
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50:14of course today legally speaking wednesdays joined by director of policy and community support of the
50:44homeland security ministry sahir ali and attorney at law and i think we have another call on the line
50:50caller good evening and welcome to be on the team yeah good evening mr mark and sergeant ali
50:55good evening sir
51:02i can't see the love of god how people can get impressed and never get
51:07bill of fire related offenses that is a weapon that is a instrument going and kill people with
51:13so and that should be no bill you cannot get bill for fire using a fire to rob people that should be a
51:19no-no and the other thing is so the um weekend why don't they have saturday night court and weekend
51:27court yeah night but now we can't go to deal with home invasion missari i wish that will be law one of
51:35these days because that home invasion is a stress that's stressing out any family in this country
51:41thanks and have a good night thanks a lot caller thank you very much caller caller i am happy that
51:47you are engaging me and providing these ideas um the reference again taken back in us into bill
51:53and may i say that you know perhaps you have a glimpse that bill is at the forefront as well in terms
51:57of looking at reform um and in relation to having night courts and courts on the weekend mark
52:02in a very strong position but not an impossible one especially if you are looking at um swift justice
52:10or you're looking at these the nature of these crimes you know you want to be able to have
52:14persons face those courts quickly but in order to face those courts you need the evidence to charge
52:18persons and hence why it's important for the citizenry to get together so that we can advocate heavily
52:24for these suggestions that you know these scholars are making um but person must be charged in
52:28order to face before court so again thank you very much call as always and you know keep bringing
52:32those ideas i'm my hands are open to you all and you know i'm hoping that you know you all find it
52:39within yourselves you know make your mark make your input and be part of that law making process or policy
52:45um making no pun intended make your mark all right we have another call on the line caller good evening and
52:52welcome to be on the table good evening good evening to you ma'am yes officer first i want to say
53:01congratulations to you with this in in in what post you got recently and i also want to say
53:09congratulations to team prime because i knew the the the election took place on monday but i didn't
53:14like i didn't hear anything about this so thanks for the info now officer i'm looking at something
53:20concerning the s on the soe a lot of people they have detained and this and some of them are
53:26complaining about they're not no no allegations and whatever and there's no evidence on why they
53:31and why they are there and they i think what they also said that at the end of the soe they would
53:37have been sent out and that didn't happen and i didn't know that there is something called pdo
53:43preventative detention orders because i read that now when i realize that you could put somebody
53:49away to prevent them from doing something and then at the end of the soe you need to let them out
53:54but they did they did they did not did this survey and i'm wondering if because if the soe is a
54:00continuity disability so if you finish this speed and it's continued so that's why they have to be
54:06filled there and i'm also wondering if can the pdo can be used in the absence of the soe i hope you
54:13understand what i'm trying to ask because i never knew there was something about that pdo and i saw that
54:17and it's something and you realize that they on the pd on their hand and and if we finish but it
54:23it's that it continues and they're still there so they want to know why they did
54:26concern and sensitive home invasion is so sad it's so sad and becoming in the house with so many of
54:33them and getting away with it it's really really sad something has to be done about that and little
54:38children you're doing that do you know how that could could affect them you know how that could affect
54:43them and concerning the prison officers i'm wondering if they're still getting drones to drop
54:49things for them besides the prison officers going in with things they need to do something about that
54:55and persons who are carrying in something they need to really do something about it because they
55:00continuously do it and it is like i see it seems as though it's a big thing to get in about it i'm not
55:07sure something has to be done about that but something has to be done about these home invasions and these
55:12people coming in your home and playing boldface and pissing you up and saying but really why else
55:16do they put some money there something has to be done about it thank you very very much all the
55:21best to all of you thank you comes a lot caller director thank you very much caller um again mark
55:27you could feel the the the passion and the concern in the caller and you know she's indicative
55:34if your head hurt you know your your toes should be feeling the pain you know seen us as one body
55:39um but she asks an academic question in relation to a preventative detention order you know and you
55:44know simply put under the emergency or the state of emergency you have special powers and a
55:49preventative detention order which gives the honorable minister the power to grant a preventative detention
55:54order to prevent someone acting in a manner prejudicial to public safety and that can be based on
56:01credible information credible intelligence it doesn't necessarily have to be evidence however if you are
56:05saying that there's information intelligence to prevent someone acting in a manner prejudicial to
56:09public safety um what you one would expect is that you investigate that diligently with the hope and
56:15expectation that you gather relevant and admissible evidence to be able to lead to a prosecution yes but
56:20the key is to prevent the person acting in a manner so once you have intelligence that someone was about
56:25to act you know you can move the process so that you you know you you prevent the commission of the the
56:30crime or the crime that was about to be committed so that prevention is to you know really contain
56:34them um it comes with the declaration of the state of emergency out of the state of emergency you do not
56:39have that draconian power because the state of emergency indicates that something serious is happening in
56:44trinidad and it gives executive powers to be able to deal with the issue in the out of the state of
56:50emergency you will have the orthodox application for detention order but that is for a limited period probably
56:55you know a seven days maximum under particular legislation to be able to to deal with investigation
57:00so again very important question that you asked and um you know i urge the law enforcement agencies
57:05to investigate those matters diligently um while those persons are in custody you know ensure that you
57:11are driving the process to gather relevant evidence but very very um pointed and very relevant um
57:16questions and as always caller thank you very much um and you know you stay safe on your side as well
57:21all right we just have about a minute left um director and i just wanted to uh remind persons in the toko
57:29district or matura rather the eastern division tongue meeting in matura it's on tomorrow thursday 6th of
57:37november at 6 p.m at the playa del estate 13 and three quarter mile post toko main road matura of course we
57:45are urging citizens in and around that area if you have any concerns suggestions anything
57:51that you might need to uh you know later the police officers of this area this is your time to come
57:58out and and share with them to make your uh community a safer one well you know i'm seeing that the the
58:05chair of that meeting you know um senior superintendent christopher papanet um the residents and the
58:10surrounding environments um please take the opportunity to engage um and you know let your voice be heard
58:16so that you can get the necessary response but mark it's always a pleasure to be here and may god
58:20continue to bless our beloved shenan tobago yes certainly thanks a lot director ali for sharing
58:26the last hour with us of course remember we run tonight at 11 30 another rerun tomorrow at 11 o'clock
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