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00:00DCX Sonic 1. It starts by getting straight to the point at least. That's not like Flynn.
00:08Sonic's picnic with Tails and even Amy gets interrupted by a ridiculous looking bad guy or machine that better be here for a good reason.
00:17I don't know much about DC, just pop culture osmosis and Linkara. So hopefully my outsider's perspective on this will be interesting.
00:26The machine sends an armored bad guy out of it that immediately tries to attack the heroes for no apparent reason.
00:33This looks like a very lazily written excuse plot so far, but I guess it'll tell us why.
00:40Fast pacing is good, the real problem is that I couldn't give less of a shit about this bad guy with no knowledge about him.
00:47It might as well be a robot with more hit points than a badnik for the way the plot is.
00:52And the heroes are fighting exactly as they usually do. Combine that with there being no character here without plot armor, and there's no reason to care about anything that's going on.
01:02But it's nice of Amy to thank Sonic.
01:05Out of nowhere, Sonic says they should get away from these things for now and runs away with his friends.
01:12So they figured out they were invincible. There wasn't enough fighting for me to have any chance of learning that.
01:19It looks like they gave up too early to be in character. Boss fights take 8 hits after all, but whatever ends the story faster.
01:28Tails somehow thinks it stands to reason to just jump to the conclusion that there's other portals elsewhere for no reason.
01:35Yeah, that bodes well. Sonic smirks in spite of having to run from a battle, something he never has to do.
01:42That prevents him from being relatable entirely. It was instantly predictable that Knuckles was going to lose the fight.
01:50It's just a bunch of boring padding until the Master Emerald gets shattered by a laser, because the bad guys don't want it to neutralize the Chaos Emeralds.
01:59Which apparently they found out about from another universe and never interacted with theirs.
02:05Whatever keeps the plot moving.
02:07I hate that they have a location that's in IDW Sonic. It makes me worry that it's going to act like it's Cannon's IDW Sonic.
02:16That makes me worry they're going to put IDW on hold until this crossover's over.
02:21I had to look up the wiki of this issue, where I learned that most of the time something crosses over with DC, it's not Cannon's either property.
02:30Eventually Sonic meets the Flash, without it being explained how he knows to be here.
02:36And somehow, Flash mistakes him for someone else I've never heard of with a stupidly spelled name that I'm willing to bet doesn't look like Sonic, because that'd be violating copyright law.
02:48Way to introduce Flash. Make him look stupid.
02:52And they interact just like you'd expect other than that.
02:56To put myself in the shoes of someone who's never seen Sonic before.
03:02What reason would they have to care about the Sonic characters based on this issue?
03:08They look at it and think Sonic's just like the Flash.
03:11And Amy and Tails have no personality. They're just nice people.
03:16I don't know why a crossover with DC or Marvel wasn't done way before the Exiles of all things.
03:22Sonic was a household name in the 90's.
03:25Why did DC even consider this now?
03:28More importantly, why didn't they get a DC writer to write this?
03:33I would think a DC writer would be a lot more popular.
03:37Because IDW and RG are more obscure comic book publishers.
03:41The story's got some padding for a while other than Flash running through a loop for once.
03:47Then I see Silver in front of some bad guys.
03:51Oh, you fucked up.
03:53Silver has no business being in a story about tackling a really dangerous threat.
03:57Because I'm gonna be wondering why he doesn't instantly take it out, the whole story.
04:01Since it can levitate small objects and bend bars, there's no reason he would just leave his telekinesis at trapping things in force fields.
04:09He could take stuff off of stuff, so he'd instantly beat the bad guy as soon as he'd see him if he wasn't given the wharf effect just to keep going.
04:19Name one time in the games he'd be grunting while holding some robots with telekinesis and going,
04:24There's too many to manage at once!
04:27He doesn't have anything to worry about.
04:30At least he only has to throw them at the ground to kill them.
04:33The problem is, even if the writer just makes him stick to fighting mooks, anyone with a brain will start wondering why he won't go after the real threats if he or someone near him knows about them.
04:44The story will do nothing to establish that he can't do anything but make things float.
04:51So anyone who's not a Sonic fan is definitely gonna be confused.
04:55And it's stupid that there's no name-take text box over this superhero.
05:00That'll be stupid any time that mistake happens.
05:03It's harder to be invested if you don't know the name of a character.
05:06It's nice of him to say Silver has impressive talent, but he doesn't have to call him a kid.
05:12That's condescending.
05:13He says if he can group them, he'll take them out.
05:16And Silver equally says sure to this guy he just met, instead of pointing out he can take them out effortlessly.
05:23He won't refuse his help either though.
05:26But telekinesis is more useful than his power.
05:29Like you never have to reach to get the TV remote ever again.
05:33And he's quite proud of his telekinesis in the games.
05:37So why would he immediately admire him?
05:40You can tell this is written by an IDW writer.
05:43But in a vacuum, there's nothing wrong with the concept of someone being nice and cheerful.
05:47So this is just a nitpick at worst.
05:49Somehow he asks him if he's a psychic too.
05:52It never made sense that Silver ever thought of himself as having psychic powers.
05:57Because he can't see the future or see auras.
06:01So he uses his mind by the same logic every Sonic character has psychic powers.
06:06It's respectable that this guy casually tells Silver about the sorts of his power and asks him what he is in the middle of a dangerous situation.
06:13And it makes sense since these mooks are powerless to them.
06:16So he has every reason to assume that nobody's gonna get hurt as long as they're around.
06:22So it's not really insensitive of him I guess.
06:25Somehow they say they should clear the skies so they can focus on ground level when people are getting chased on the ground level.
06:32When instead they should be immediately going to ground level to protect these people.
06:37The story doesn't show me why the civilians just sitting there waiting to be hit.
06:42I'm not showing her surroundings.
06:44The mook gets attacked by Shadow and Batman.
06:47And I'm glad they don't talk to each other because it's faster pacing that way.
06:51What a nice coincidence that it just happened to be Batman helping Shadow.
06:56I wonder why they even used Shadow.
06:59When the writers hate having to write him based on Sega's notes.
07:02And the fans made it clear they hate how he's written in IDW.
07:06Published by DC but it's in the IDW section of Grabber Zone.
07:11So that's confusing.
07:12Amy says this depressing city damaging is awful.
07:16And since she's the first to acknowledge it.
07:18I kind of appreciate someone showing that compassion finally.
07:21Of course she and Tails go fight a robot.
07:24And they get some laser assistance from Cyborg.
07:27I remember seeing a little of Teen Titans as a kid.
07:30So he's nice to see.
07:32I guess he was a lot more popular than the other Teen Titans.
07:36Because he's here and not all the other ones.
07:39It's a little charming what he says.
07:42It's nice of Wonder Woman to say nice effort.
07:45But it should be obvious she doesn't need to ask them for help.
07:48Since they were already helping.
07:50Then they get approached by some generic boring bad guy I don't care about.
07:54And somehow he gets nervous like he knows something bad's gonna happen to him for no reason.
07:59And yet he doesn't avoid Knuckles attacking him.
08:02It's a little nice but why doesn't it show me the impact of it?
08:06It's a shame Knuckles held back with his super strength.
08:09When he spent his whole life guarding the Master Emerald all alone.
08:12And after the same the Master Emerald itself communicated with him like a person a lot.
08:16Since otherwise he'd have gone insane from loneliness by the time he met Sonic.
08:20Then Superman lands on the bat guy.
08:23That's all he does.
08:25Which looks lame.
08:26And why does he have his arms crossed like moody shadow?
08:30I hope his personality is intact.
08:33I've read the first volume of Golden Age Superman.
08:36So he's my favorite.
08:37And the one I know the best.
08:39He was surprisingly law breaking in that one.
08:43He was more of a loose cannon than you'd expect in that.
08:46Eventually Knuckles of course complains that he wasn't done the fight yet.
08:50And confusingly they both know each other's names already.
08:54At first I thought he only guessed his name.
08:57What's the point of having them know each other's names already?
09:01I have to assume they met off screen.
09:03Every time something like this happens it takes me out of the story.
09:07But it's forgivable when the stuff I'm forced to assume is clearly really the case.
09:11And I'd rather the pacing be faster than the alternative.
09:14I feel like only executive meddling would have the pacing be as fast as it is.
09:19Because usually his writing has way slower pacing.
09:22But at least in the Exiles crossover it didn't wreck the immersion by having a Sonic character already know his superhero when we saw him talk to him the first time.
09:30Superman suddenly has an expression that is in character.
09:34And politely says sorry and thanks to him for softening him up for him.
09:37Which is especially polite because he didn't need his help at all.
09:41It's hardly respectful of Knuckles to have his work be pointless.
09:45Why even have him in the story?
09:47Why team these two up?
09:49The pacing stops for the characters to recap to each other.
09:53Knuckles says his island fell into the ocean and he would have gone with it if it weren't for Superman.
10:00And logically this would only mean that he would have let himself drown for failing.
10:05Because Knuckles can glide and swim.
10:08He could have saved himself.
10:10Why does Flynn keep thinking the island would instantly sink into the ocean after falling when it never did that in the games or Archie?
10:18If that happens Sonic Adventure kind of happens because Sonic wouldn't have been able to get emeralds from it.
10:24And there's nothing good about the island going underwater if it falls.
10:28At least not yet.
10:30It's nice of Superman to say sorry couldn't do more for him.
10:34It is charming that Flash and Sonic were keeping count of how many parademons they took out.
10:39But if the parademons are the things that Sonic retreated from.
10:43How was Sonic able to take them out when he thought he couldn't beat them earlier?
10:47So he really did give up too early.
10:49And also if they're parademons instead of robots then they're animals under armor.
10:54So if this was the same Sonic as an IDW he'd be hypocritical for killing them.
10:59What else could parademons be made of?
11:02Flash is the second best character here.
11:04I just don't find Flash very impressive right now because he's the same as Sonic.
11:09Sonic looks too cocky like he's taking the situation not seriously enough.
11:13Like he doesn't care enough about the civilians in danger.
11:16He's just smiling the whole time.
11:19So it looks like he doesn't have any depth so I don't really care about him.
11:23The superheroes start doing a boring exposition dump.
11:27Them introducing themselves is mostly worthless because even the audience is going to know who most of these people are from pop culture osmosis at least.
11:35The only one they needed naming is Jon Stewart.
11:39Not exactly a memorable name.
11:41And even then it was obvious that he was a green lantern.
11:45Would have felt a cyborg would enable them to reach another world.
11:49That's not sufficient exposition.
11:51Good thing it's explained later.
11:53Because I wouldn't expect he's a cyborg to just instantly make it make sense that he can travel to another universe.
12:00Because Bunny doesn't.
12:02Then Sonic introduces himself.
12:04Insists that what he called Sonic heroes aren't organized.
12:08And says they just take life as it comes and help anyone.
12:11Why does he think that doesn't apply to these guys?
12:14That's elitist.
12:15And it's so weird of Sonic to refer to Amy as his bestie.
12:19And not called Tails his best friend.
12:22He did the bare minimum he's supposed to aside from that.
12:26Bestie sounds like something a girl would say not Sonic.
12:29And Amy and him have completely different dynamics than this in the games.
12:33At least in the older games.
12:35Even in the newer ones she sassieds him though.
12:37So still different dynamic.
12:40Amy still has the same past where she didn't respect his boundaries.
12:44So why does she deserve to be called his bestie?
12:47This is writer favoritism.
12:49Sonic flatters Knuckles as tough.
12:52But doesn't compliment the rest of them.
12:55You'd think he'd compliment Silver but not Knuckles and Shadow.
12:59Knuckles is his rival.
13:01So why would he compliment Knuckles and not Silver?
13:04He just says Shadow says he's the ultimate life form.
13:09Jerk.
13:10It was nice of Silver to say it's a pleasure to work with them.
13:14Knuckles is as bored as I am and asks who the bad guys are.
13:18I don't care.
13:19They've got a generic goal.
13:21They've got as little personality as the superheroes do.
13:24I don't need to know anything else about them.
13:27They're just there to make the plot.
13:29You could just replace them with an evil looking eye.
13:33That's a robot.
13:35And all his goal is is to steal the Master Emeralds and stuff.
13:39Knuckles really shouldn't care what they are either.
13:42It's not like when he first met Sonic he insisted on getting to know who he was before using traps on him.
13:48He has no reason to think that Darkseid is actually a good guy.
13:53So there's no reason he would insist on getting to know him just in case he's actually wrong about him being a bad guy.
14:00That's the logic.
14:02After extremely boring exposition that only reminds me that superhero comics are too bleak for me to want to care about them.
14:08Because what's the point of writing that Darkseid's conquered entire worlds beyond shock value?
14:14He's worse than Sadie and Robotnik.
14:17I think action series need a lot more to them than just they fight supervillains.
14:23What's the point of caring if there's always going to be a supervillain right around the corner?
14:27And the villains are always going to come back after getting defeated.
14:31It's just bleak.
14:33BoomTube is such a lame term.
14:36There's a bunch of boring stating the obvious.
14:40That he should have just kept so off screen while he was at it and skipped past it with a time skip.
14:45Because we would have assumed they'd say this to each other.
14:48And he didn't think Superman saving Knuckles was important to show.
14:52Superman says they should make a plan.
14:55And Shadow says he doesn't have time for this without a thought bubble explaining that he could use Chaos Control to single handedly beat the bad guys after he finds them from running around the planet enough.
15:05And he could also just warp.
15:08He could use his teleportation to beat the bad guy.
15:11Just warp to the ocean while holding him then warp away from the ocean. Done.
15:16It's nice of Superman to say he'd value everyone's input.
15:20Shadow walks away and Batman of old people says he'll handle him when he's not exactly the loving social butterfly type.
15:28If anything you'd think it'd be Superman.
15:31Out of nowhere, he asked them who was the one Shadow saw die in front of him.
15:36Shadow lampshades how he would ever know that.
15:39Yeah, he literally had no reason to think that and was far more likely to be wrong.
15:44He was projecting his own problem onto him because he reminded them of himself.
15:49He barely heard Shadow say anything.
15:52All he got out of him was that he's a serious person.
15:55That doesn't necessarily mean Trauma did it.
15:58And he's the same general color scheme as him, except with red.
16:04It's acting like Batman's psychic because he's just that awesome, as in Creator's Pet, when really he's just being silly.
16:12After they give each other exposition about themselves, which is boring as they don't react to learning about each other.
16:18The story goes back to the heroes giving boring exposition to each other.
16:23How has Tails only just now started developing an emerald tracking system?
16:28He should have made it way earlier.
16:30Like, you'd expect that to be the case in Sonic 3.
16:34Because how did Sonic know to go to Angel Island if his plane wasn't directly following behind the Eggmobile two feet away from it?
16:43I guess the interaction between Cyborg and Tails is what everyone expected.
16:48So obviously it's good that he likes his technology.
16:51Anyways, more boring blathering.
16:55I wish I just skipped to them fighting the bad guys again instead.
16:59What's to defend here?
17:01Executives should have stepped in here.
17:03Knuckles Lampshade says Superman's backstory is too cruel.
17:07Superman says the likable dialogue I'd expect of him.
17:10Anyways, it really should be explained to this point why Amy's car can fly.
17:14Because it was never explained in the games either.
17:17And she never has a flying car in the main games.
17:20Just the spin-off games that are never confirmed to be actually canon.
17:26And why is Shadow riding that motorcycle when he's faster than it and he doesn't tire out from running?
17:32So it's not like he'd think he should conserve his energy.
17:35He's arrogant.
17:37So he wouldn't think he'd need to.
17:39He said he didn't have time for this but he has time to be slow instead of running while holding Batman?
17:45He could be holding his wrist and run with him.
17:48Because it didn't hurt Elise.
17:51Then the story demeans Tails in favor of the other franchise.
17:56Because Cyborg can upgrade his system a hundred-fold.
18:00Are you forgetting that the Sonic universe is more futuristic than ours?
18:04It's got sentient robots like Orbot and Cubot in it.
18:08At least it says Tails is skilled.
18:11There's a waste of a panel I already said what was wrong with earlier.
18:15Silver literally says that Jon's power is better than mind over matter.
18:20I was being cynical earlier but he actually confirms it.
18:24This is bullshit.
18:26Why isn't Silver like he is in Colorless DS?
18:29The Silver there would never think anyone's powers were better than his own.
18:33It doesn't explain exactly how far it goes that he can create anything.
18:39Anything creates is still green.
18:42So it doesn't really prove that?
18:45Like, would he be able to create a functioning Game Boy?
18:49Would the screen just be green the whole time?
18:54If he could literally create anything, they need to be able to create chaos emeralds.
18:58So he could just create a whole bunch of them.
19:01And then Sonic would go super and end the crossover already.
19:04So he can't literally create anything.
19:06Flash is surprised that Sonic didn't get his speed from a mad scientist treadmill accident.
19:11Fleetway Sonic did.
19:14And he's from a comic book market not dominated by superheroes.
19:18The so-called Sonic fan writing this doesn't have Sonic say that maybe an alternate universe version of Em got his speed from that.
19:26In the Psych of America Bible, he did get his speed from that.
19:30Because that actually makes more sense than him being fast for no reason.
19:34Which is the same thing as the X-Men being born with magic for no reason.
19:38Because otherwise everyone here would be running as fast as Sonic because they want to.
19:43So they go to South Island and Sonic gets called the nickname Rouge gave him.
19:47And while they skid to his stop for no reason, they see a bad guy with an emerald who by an unlikely coincidence says exactly what we first heard Shadow say in SE2.
19:57To brainwash people into thinking the story's good.
20:00Knee-jerk emotional reactions don't make me get amnesia of my experience of a story as a whole.
20:06Seriously though, if they kept running, they'd ram into Darkseid to send him flying into the ocean.
20:12And the emerald would fall to the grass because he's not even touching it.
20:16So the next scene's gonna be dogshit writing that makes both of them impossibly stupid to force Darkseid to get away with the emerald to increase the tension unnecessarily.
20:26Since he could just get another emerald and lose this one.
20:29Since when is an emerald that you just found on the ground hover over someone's hand for no reason.
20:36They only hover in the special stages or when you're using them to go super.
20:40It's inaccurate to the games for a crossover meant to represent the Sonic brand.
20:45And there's nothing good about this anyways.
20:48It's good that it acknowledges I was right that Sonic's team in the games does have an official team name.
20:54And is an official group.
20:56By calling them Sonic Heroes.
20:58Not even just Team Sonic.
21:00It calls them what he called them for actual legitimacy.
21:04It completely disregards that he said they weren't as organized as the Justice League.
21:09Good.
21:10Because most Sonic fans wouldn't mind that.
21:13I'm so glad this issue is over.
21:16It was so boring.
21:17That's my main complaint about it is that it's boring.
21:21Since the ending of it is expecting me to believe that someone has any chance of leaving with an emerald when faced with two extremely fast people.
21:28It would have been a much worse story if it had room for the ensuing fight that's somehow going to take more than Sonic and Flash defeat.
21:34But if Sonic had just kept going and ran into Darkseid the whole crossover should have already been over.
21:40So the trademark Flynn writing and making characters impossibly stupid shitting all over them is going to be all over this crossover.
21:48Making anyone who calls it Peek look like an idiot.
21:52This issue by Ian Flynn was about Darkseid sending bad guys to a bunch of inhabited places without an emerald for no reason.
22:01So that Sonic and his friends have to fight them and then talk to superheroes for a billion years.
22:07So I really wish it never existed.
22:09But it wasn't as bad as I expected.
22:11Because the pacing was so fast that it was breaking the immersion until the fighting stopped.
22:16Then the pacing was boring dog shit where the heroes were giving each other exposition instead of progressing the plot.
22:22That we could have just assumed they gave each other after a time skip.
22:26None of the heroes beyond Batman seemed to have any personality trait beyond nice guy.
22:32With the exception of Cyborg who's nice technology fan.
22:36And even then Batman's still a good person so he's technically still good guy.
22:41So the characterization was mediocre.
22:43One dimensional shit as far as I'm concerned.
22:46It did what everyone would expect a writer to do when it comes to Sonic characters finding certain superheroes relatable.
22:53So that's not impressive.
22:55There wasn't any real creativity here.
22:58Any fanfiction writer could come up with that Sonic characters meet the DC heroes and fight Superman's version of Eggman.
23:05At least the plot doesn't seem like it was forced to happen in universe wise.
23:10I can't find any major plot holes.
23:12Like I can assume that the reason Darkseid sent his moocs to places where there wasn't an emerald.
23:17Is that he wanted to conquer it.
23:19Or he didn't know exactly where the emerald was right away.
23:22So the writing isn't contrived.
23:24So it's got that over all of the other crossovers.
23:28But the least bad is still bad.
23:32It's tone was depressing.
23:34Making me instantly impatient for the crossover to end.
23:37It's underwhelming in nearly every major writing component.
23:41Creativity, characterization, world building, logic, pacing, tone.
23:47Most of the dialogue was fine.
23:49That's all that's good.
23:50I don't say it would be just an opinion that the issue is bad then when it fails at most of the major components of good writing.
23:58And almost nothing actually happened in this issue.
24:01When the first issue is supposed to wow people.
24:04People in general.
24:06Not just easily impressed stans who will like anything Flynn writes.
24:10The average person is going to see this generic plot where of course the bad guys go after the chaos emeralds.
24:16And be able to predict how the rest of the crossover is going to go.
24:19Let me guess.
24:20They're going to be fighting for the rest of the chaos emeralds.
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