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02:56Good evening Trinidad and Tobago and welcome to Beyond the Tape.
02:58My name is Whitney Husbands.
03:00A lot to discuss.
03:01We know it's about crime and where the TTPs stand and the people of Trinidad and Tobago
03:08being extremely fed up of what we're seeing and experiencing.
03:12With us this Thursday and every Thursday, God Spare Life, which we appreciate,
03:16we have acting ASP Pitt from the Northern North Division here with us.
03:20Welcome to you, sir. How are you?
03:21Ah, not too bad. Good evening, Whitney. Good evening, Trinidad and Tobago.
03:24How was your week? Well, remainder, that is.
03:27Week haven't been too bad.
03:30Ups, downs, yeah.
03:33It comes with life, so to speak.
03:35But it's about managing.
03:37Yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:38It's about managing.
03:39And we are trying to do the same.
03:40So, let us know with regards to the last 24 hours,
03:45the story that was on social media,
03:49persons still speaking about it,
03:51the six persons who were killed.
03:53And I know we can't go too much in depth into that
03:56because of different allegations and the investigations going on.
04:01But the fact still remains that we had victims involved.
04:07Persons were traumatized and lives were lost.
04:10So, condolences to the family in advance.
04:13And where are we now with this matter?
04:16Well, I will echo your sentiments.
04:19Definitely condolences to the family of the deceased.
04:22Additionally, we just want to state as an organization
04:26that we stand in solidarity with our officers.
04:30Once they are carrying out their function,
04:32their legitimate function,
04:33and there's a need to defend themselves,
04:35and they do it appropriately, full support.
04:39We know that with every police shooting,
04:41there are investigations.
04:42That is part of the process.
04:44And, you know, there's that intervention.
04:47If need be, for those officers who would have been involved.
04:50How are you all treating with a minor,
04:52not just in this situation here, that her life was taken?
04:57And persons are still confused
05:00at what this minor is doing in that situation.
05:04I know you all don't have a clear idea of it,
05:08but how are you all treating with it and the families?
05:11Well, the matter is still under investigation,
05:14heavy investigation from many different quarters.
05:19So, generally speaking, we have been seeing a lot of incidents
05:24involving minors, involving children, so to speak.
05:28And, you know, it is, of course, of concern for us,
05:31as we would expect the wider public.
05:34And we are asking that persons step up
05:37regarding how we manage our children,
05:40regarding what we teach our children,
05:45what we show them as right and wrong, the role models.
05:49We have an understanding as to where they are and who they are with.
05:52We know that school is out, and for that reason,
05:55persons may be finding time to do things
06:00that may not always be the most appropriate.
06:03And this is not a prejudice, what took place yesterday.
06:06This is generally speaking.
06:08We have offered as an organization
06:11different categories of programs
06:17for persons who may have that time and who may be interested,
06:20and we are asking that parents vest that level of confidence in us
06:24so that we can be part of the process
06:27of raising our children to be much more productive.
06:31And for those who might be seeing the flags,
06:33because we know that at times,
06:36adolescents, some persons may have what we may call a rebellious tendency.
06:41There are so much things happening within the body,
06:44the physiological aspect of things, the hormones, and so on and so forth,
06:48that at a particular age, there is a sense of rebelliousness.
06:55And for that reason, we ought to be extra vigilant.
06:59We have to lend that extra support
07:02in order that we guide them along that particular path
07:05and take them away from making the wrong decisions.
07:08Now, in that video that you saw there, TNT,
07:11from reports what they're stating is that it took no more than 11 minutes
07:16between the arrival of the police at Razak Trace, Calcutta No. 2,
07:21and their departure carrying away six shooting victims
07:25who all died at the set scene.
07:29Now, the timestamps, according to the CCTV footage obtained by CCN,
07:34showed the arrival of three police vehicles at around 11.26 a.m.,
07:39and police picked up the truck leaving at 11.37 a.m.
07:43with what the experts were told
07:45were the bodies of the people involved in the shooting.
07:48So, again, condolences there,
07:50and I know we are waiting to find out more
07:52with what transpired with this situation.
07:55And this is just a sad thing because it's young people,
07:59young people.
08:00Young persons who are caught up in the life of crime and criminal activities,
08:07and it's just sad.
08:09And I hope that the young ones who are watching this
08:12understand the consequences of entering into that life.
08:17Yes, yes, and that's an excellent statement you have made there,
08:21the consequences.
08:22What are the consequences of going along that line of criminality?
08:28And there are so many negative consequences.
08:31There are persons who might gravitate and be attracted to
08:34what they may see as an opportunity to gain money,
08:38an opportunity to gain respect,
08:40an opportunity to belong to persons or to be part of persons
08:44who you feel have some type of status in your community.
08:48But on the flip side, when you look at it,
08:51there are persons who they have so much probably name,
08:56if you want to call it that, within their community
08:58and not named for like anything reputable,
09:01but they might be infamous,
09:03but they cannot even go to a particular location
09:07without feeling that somebody is looking to do them something.
09:11And that could never be a comfortable life to live.
09:15So you run the risk of being arrested.
09:17You run the risk of your family members also falling victim
09:21to what you have brought onto them.
09:24You run the risk of even being a flight risk
09:27where you may want to migrate.
09:29And because you may have a record, it could hinder you.
09:33You can be sentenced for life.
09:36You can have a lengthy sentence.
09:38And what is the worst thing? You lose your life.
09:40And the worst, you can lose your life.
09:43And we are seeing it happening so often we are wondering
09:46if persons are not learning from the experiences of others,
09:50if we are not looking and seeing exactly what it is taking place.
09:54There is a particular path and that path is leading towards progress.
09:59It's leading towards productivity.
10:01And there is another path that is leading to destruction and negativity.
10:05At this time, let's take a look at what made the headlines.
10:20The New York Times
10:25The New York Times
10:30The New York Times
10:35The New York Times
10:40The New York Times
10:45The New York Times
10:50The New York Times
10:55The New York Times
11:00The New York Times
11:05The New York Times
11:10Now, a lot to speak about, so we're going straight into it.
11:14Now, earlier today, action in the city, and that is in Port of Spain, where a car taken
11:19at gunpoint in Maraval and intercepted in the Port of Spain area.
11:22The suspect sought refuge in the nearby church.
11:26Now, alleged bandit fleeing police this morning attempted to evade capture by disguising himself
11:32as a Catholic priest inside the Holy Rosary Roman Catholic Church in Port of Spain.
11:39But the officers were smart, observing what was taking place, and they were able to apprehend
11:45the individual and detain him.
11:47So a job well done with regards to capturing that individual.
11:53Well he did find the church, to his credit.
11:58Well God led him in the right direction.
12:00Yes, indeed.
12:01Yes, and then God assisted you.
12:03That was an immediate change.
12:04Yeah, I mean, maybe he is praying and asking God for forgiveness for his sins after doing
12:09what he did.
12:10We would hope.
12:11We would hope.
12:12Yes, and no one was injured, which is most important.
12:13Excellent.
12:14Yeah?
12:15Yeah.
12:16Also caught on camera, making good his escape, something that many people were a bit confused
12:20about when they saw it.
12:22Now, a man identified as Christian Brown, 20, from La Hocket, no, well, La Hocket Valley
12:29Road in Glencoe, escaped from the police yesterday while still wearing handcuffs along
12:35the Western Main Road, and this is something I need to know more about.
12:41What has transpired from this?
12:43Well, I can tell you yesterday, and we want to send out some apologies to persons who
12:50we know were stuck in traffic because there were some road checks in order to apprehend
12:55this person.
12:57He is wanted for serious offenses, and at this point in time, he is deemed to be armed
13:03and dangerous.
13:04So, anyone with information as to Christian Brown's whereabouts, please contact 999-555,
13:11the Caranache Police Station, or any other police station for that matter, so that we
13:15can bring him to justice.
13:17Yes, and remember, you can give us a call at 623-1711, extension 1992, 1993, and 1997.
13:25Now, I want to bring you into this conversation.
13:30I know you can't speak on behalf of every parent in Trinidad and Tobago, but with your
13:34experience and the exposure and interacting with children who may be, you know, a bit
13:42delinquent, and their parents just don't know what to do, and you hear sometimes parents
13:46say, I don't know my child was involved in this.
13:49I don't know my child behaves like this.
13:51Is that really the case?
13:52Do they really don't know, or they turn a blind eye because they refuse to accept what
13:57it is?
13:58Well, it's, I would think, a combination of both, yeah?
14:01And when I say a combination, there are times when parents may not know the type of behavior
14:10their children exhibit in their absence, and there are other times when parents are fully
14:15aware, but when faced with the reality, you know, it's a case of saving face, as we would
14:21say, that you would say, well, I didn't know that he or she was involved in this type of
14:25activity.
14:27But it is important that we recognize when things go wrong, because once we recognize
14:32when things go wrong and we accept that things are wrong, that is the beginning of understanding
14:37that we have a problem, and the next step is to find remedies to repair it.
14:41Okay.
14:42So we're dealing with young men and young women who clearly, they may be fascinated
14:48or they just happen to be, you know, I don't want to say weak-minded, but they gravitate
14:54to the life of crime.
14:55Yes.
14:56We have seen a young girl, underage, killed in the last 24 hours, going into 48 hours,
15:04and then we saw another young lady who was killed where she wasn't the intended target,
15:10but she was killed in the vehicle.
15:11She was in the vehicle at the time, ended up in a train, but we're seeing more and more
15:14young girls, just like the young men, because we can't forget them, going into this life.
15:21And the parents, when you hear them say certain things like, I didn't know my child knew these
15:27individuals, I never knew that my child was involved in this, I expected that they were
15:33doing X, Y, and Z, I dropped them off to do this and not knowing they're not doing that.
15:37Yes, yes.
15:38You know, that's where we need to strike the balance, because obviously, children grow
15:45into adulthood, and in that period, that transition period, that transitioning period between
15:52adolescent into adulthood, there's some liberty that is extended that is important for their
15:59growth, but that liberty must be one that is carefully calculated within the context
16:05of the environment.
16:07So it's not just about giving them this great sense of freedom, and you don't know what
16:13they are doing, you don't know who they are involved with, and you said something regarding
16:19their minds, and if their minds are strong, and it's a reality that at that point in time,
16:27they are at a point where they can be easily influenced.
16:31We must ensure that the influence that they get is predominantly from the persons who
16:37really care as to their progress in society, and not necessarily those who would want to
16:44bring them into an environment where they would be using them to fulfill their own agenda.
16:49So go for this, do this, go and do this, this, that, all these things, because they are now
16:56using your child to be part of their crime syndicate to carry out certain things, and
17:03that is where, as you said it, it's important that parenting trumps, and even the community,
17:09because sometimes a parent may not know certain things because of whatever reason children
17:15might be very careful and deceptive at times in terms of how they behave when they are
17:20home, but we need to have that open communication with members of our community, don't isolate
17:27even members or parents within the school, do not have that gap to the extent that persons
17:35don't feel comfortable speaking to you, because there are parents who they don't want to hear
17:40anybody speak negatively about their children, and they close the door, and if you do that,
17:45then you would not have that 360 degrees understanding of what your child is doing in your absence,
17:50but if that door is open, it will give credence to the adage that a community raises a child,
17:58because there are persons who would tell you, hey, I observed XYZ, who was lining with XYZ,
18:03and I don't think that was a smart thing.
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19:33We all need to share the road.
19:37If you hit a cyclist on the road, you're going to be prosecuted.
19:42It's almost as if two cars hit each other.
20:01And we are back.
20:02We have a call on the line at 749.
20:04Hello.
20:05Good evening.
20:06Hello?
20:07Hello.
20:08Good evening.
20:09Good evening, sir.
20:10Good evening, sir.
20:11How are you, Whitney?
20:12Blassman.
20:13Oh, it's Mr. Pitt.
20:14Mr. Pitt once again, I always say I like how you represent the CPPS on this program.
20:21I'm hearing a pullback from you relative to the particular incident, and I totally respect that.
20:26But I want to ask, I want you to share with the public how long you have been at this.
20:33I'm not a social media person.
20:35But I appreciate that when you are on the field, 11 minutes is a very long time.
20:44Yes.
20:45So I don't know what is the big TBI, and it's only 11 minutes that fast and whatever.
20:49A lot of things could go down in 11 minutes.
20:52That would totally explain 11 minutes.
20:55In fact, five minutes, sometimes even three minutes.
20:58A whole lot of things happen, and the police need to take action and get out of there,
21:04render assistance to persons and so on.
21:06So that one has skipped me, Whitney.
21:09Forgive me.
21:10However, I go now to parenting.
21:13I do not know what is happening to parenting when I'm not going to the exact thing.
21:20When teenagers are being in some compromising positions, and a parent is saying they did not know.
21:27There are physical things that you could see on a child when they are involved in certain,
21:33whether it be behavior or in terms of substances.
21:39So it's a lack of observation when I hear a parent saying that they did not know.
21:46And I'm thinking that we need to work on these parents.
21:50When we all know that most of the time, a certain parent resists most of the time.
21:58And both persons need to take accountability as to why your son, in particular, is going astray.
22:05What is this fascination with firearms and so on?
22:08And I don't know, Whitney, if you are sorry, but there is allegedly a photograph
22:12with that young person with a firearm, and it doesn't look like a handgun.
22:18So we need to carefully examine parents as to why they don't know that their children are involved
22:25in some of these things.
22:27As we always say, I don't know where the law lords are.
22:30They need to take these parents, hold these parents accountable sometimes
22:34for what their children do to the members of the public.
22:37I don't want to be too exact with this concern, because I know it's pretty fresh.
22:42But something is happening, and we need to take care of it.
22:45We need to find solutions and hold these people accountable.
22:49Respectfully, it's written in those solutions.
22:53Have a good one.
23:15So if they responded in that period, a lot took place.
23:20Well, we were all fortunate to view some segments of the Olympics.
23:28And we recognized that seconds sometimes tell the difference between winning and losing.
23:35And if we are to put that into perspective, 11 minutes is a long time.
23:44It might feel like as a victim forever.
23:48There you go.
23:49It feels like it's not going to end.
23:51It's not going to end.
23:52There you go.
23:53So with that being said, the story that many persons are still trying to grasp and understand
23:59is the 68-year-old Edward Taylor.
24:02Now, he is suffering with heart condition.
24:06And in that situation, nothing really could have been done because it's a pensioner.
24:12And the gunman broke into his home and terrorized him from daybreak yesterday.
24:16So less than six hours later, the men who allegedly robbed him were among six people
24:22killed by police at a crime hideout not far away from where the home invasion took place.
24:29Now, Taylor, a pensioner, said the three men entered his home with guns, asking for gold and cash around 6.15 a.m.
24:37Fearful for his life, Taylor said, he directed the men to his jewelry, which was valued at $50,000.
24:45He also handed over $600 and his bank card.
24:49The suspects escaped in a Toyota aqua car parked a short distance away from Taylor's home.
24:56So this is something where we are seeing our pensioners being targets.
25:04That is not even anything strange.
25:06But more so, we are hearing more and more of them being attacked, killed, injured severely.
25:14And we have our family members who may be grandparents, our mothers, our fathers.
25:21And they may be living at home alone.
25:25Because from what I understand, he lost his wife a year ago, so he is at home alone.
25:31Yes. And it speaks to what we discuss consistently about being a hard target and being a soft target.
25:40So there are persons who would be scouting and they are looking to carry about whatever with the least amount of resistance.
25:48So they are going to identify their target. It's calculated.
25:52And that is why we will always say that persons make themselves a hard target.
25:56It's our duty to say that.
26:00But it's easier said than done.
26:04For some persons, dependent on their circumstance, dependent on their age.
26:10And you've said it, elderly persons would have family members.
26:14And for that reason, we have a responsibility to take care of persons who would have invested so much of their time and their life into our development.
26:26So we are at a stage now, and I think there is some old saying as to how a nation cares for their elderly.
26:32You know, it tells you a lot about the nation in itself.
26:36So we have a duty towards how we are able to protect our elderly.
26:40And even if it means, Whitney, passing on these tips for them to make the appropriate decisions regarding the places that they would live in,
26:52the type of burglar proofing and the manner in which they traverse from one point to the next,
27:01you know, that would go a long way.
27:03Because there are persons who are going around and they are looking, and they are going to seek out the point of least resistance.
27:11And clearly it's the elderly.
27:14And speaking of that, I want you all to take a listen to this elderly gentleman, also a law-abiding citizen,
27:20and now a victim because of a home invasion.
27:22Listen to this.
27:50My gentleman, this.
28:05The wife of him?
28:06Yes, we were sleeping, boy. They come in the room, boy.
28:10They come upstairs, boy.
28:12They don't get it back.
28:14They cut the gate.
28:16They lock in the gate, boy.
28:20And they come upstairs, boy.
28:22And I went down to touch them with me.
28:24I said, what?
28:26I said, what?
28:28I said, what's wrong with me, boy?
28:30I said, what?
28:32Hey, I started crying, boy.
28:34I said, we're going to kill you.
28:36We're going to kill you.
28:38God, give me the money.
28:40I said, I don't have money.
28:42I don't know what you're talking about, boy.
28:44I had 40 dollars in my wallet.
28:46I didn't take it.
28:49They cut everything in the house.
28:51Everything.
28:53All my clothes, everything.
28:55On the ground, everything.
28:57I lived in a mess.
28:59I went upstairs to see who locked.
29:01I knew she put him by the lock.
29:03Damaged the door.
29:05Opened the door.
29:07And when they opened the door, she...
29:09Denise?
29:11Yeah, tiny Denise downstairs.
29:13Yeah.
29:15I think she put 700.
29:17I take my two cell phones.
29:23I ain't lying, boy.
29:25I studied, boy.
29:27Look at life, eh?
29:29Young, young boys.
29:31And all of them small.
29:33Two boys stay.
29:35One with a hatchet.
29:37One with a cutlass.
29:39I know I could handle them, boy.
29:41Oh, God.
29:43I can't say that.
29:46Nah.
29:48Put it under my head.
29:50I say, go.
29:52Where the money?
29:54Where the car? Where the key?
29:56I had the key for the car.
29:58Oh, God.
30:00Life or something.
30:02My pocket, boy.
30:04My pocket, boy.
30:06Everything.
30:08Them dumb boys and them.
30:10The two TV.
30:12I had the two TV because I had a vehicle up here waiting for them.
30:14Two 50-inch TV.
30:16I buy one about five years
30:18and one about two years.
30:22I start swimming TV.
30:24Buy just a much more Olympic something, boy.
30:26Get on, boy.
30:28Oh, Lord.
30:30All I love my TV, you know.
30:32All my company home.
30:34I think when I was sick and I was
30:36going through and watching all the cycling.
30:40I sit on my bike and I ride it and all home.
30:44Why?
30:46This is something I read about and I
30:48can tell you.
30:50That is the experience.
30:54I stand back on the wheel, boy.
30:58I can't risk my life, my wife and all.
31:04Why?
31:06From three, they come in there and they leave five o'clock.
31:08I had them clock on the wall.
31:10Why?
31:12That's what I thought.
31:16The pain of our elderly people.
31:18This is so heartbreaking.
31:20We need to take a break.
31:22We'll be back.
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32:47I'm Larry.
32:49I'm getting rid of him now.
33:01Let's take a selfie.
33:03It's looking good, boy.
33:05I'm putting it online.
33:09Hey.
33:11I thought you said you went to the beach with your parents.
33:13Who's you?
33:15It's me.
33:17Larry.
33:19From online.
33:33And we're back.
33:35We have a call on the line.
33:37Let's take that call.
33:39Hello, good evening.
33:41Hi, good afternoon.
33:43Hello.
33:45Yes, good afternoon.
33:47I'm Professor Pitt.
33:49I'm the host.
33:51I'm calling to answer
33:53Montauk Tunnel.
33:55I know the coolest shovels
33:57through there, right?
33:59However expensive it is,
34:02however, it is coming
34:04in and out.
34:06So vehicles are coming
34:08inwards from the main road
34:10and outwards from Montauk.
34:12So I don't know, it is very
34:14dangerous for pedestrians
34:16who pass in there.
34:18When they're waiting on the pavement,
34:20the vehicles are blowing you to move
34:22from the pavement so they can exit
34:24onto the main road. And I am foreseeing
34:26a serious accident happening there.
34:28So I don't know if something
34:30could be put in place for that
34:32to prevent that measure
34:34from happening.
34:36So that's my input.
34:40Thank you, sir. And again, thank you for
34:42making an observation
34:44and bringing your observation
34:46to our attention so that we can take the
34:48appropriate action. So we will pass on
34:50the information in order for it to be addressed.
34:52We have another call. Let's take that call.
34:54Hello, good evening.
34:56Good evening, good evening, Ms. Husband and 30.
34:58Honorable Inspector this evening.
35:00Good evening, sir.
35:02With respect to the six
35:04who was killed, I have
35:06two pertinent questions
35:08from my vantage.
35:10It might not necessarily be
35:12from federal
35:14perspective. One,
35:16the proliferation of
35:18home invasion
35:20slash robbery
35:22has started
35:24a couple of years now
35:27and it is skewed now
35:29and there's a lot of old pensioners
35:31who have basically
35:33been, how should I say,
35:35terrorized.
35:37There is
35:39a political activity who said
35:41jump the wall and
35:43deal with them. Have the police
35:45done any intelligence
35:47to see if that statement
35:49has anything
35:51to do with the proliferation
35:53of this home invasion?
35:55That is one question.
35:57The second question, six people have died.
35:59The police party
36:01who went to that scene,
36:03were they wearing body cameras?
36:05Okay, that is the question.
36:07Have a nice evening.
36:11Thank you, sir.
36:13Well, to your first question,
36:15jump the wall and deal with them.
36:17I don't know who said that.
36:19I don't know who said that.
36:21I wish I knew.
36:23Just to touch firstly on your point
36:25of home invasions
36:27and home invasions increasing
36:29in recent years and so on and so forth.
36:31The term home invasion
36:33is a term that
36:35has come into being in recent
36:37times.
36:39Within strict policing
36:41language, home invasion
36:43doesn't exist.
36:45The offenses are either it's burglary
36:47or housebreaking
36:49and lastly
36:52for persons who may enter
36:54your homes.
36:56The fact that the term came
36:58into being
37:00in a short period of time,
37:02all those offenses
37:04are being labeled as home invasions.
37:06You understand?
37:08Entering someone's home.
37:10We see it all the time.
37:12They are correct.
37:14The term that is used here is different.
37:16My point is
37:18that it is not something new
37:20in the landscape
37:22of criminality.
37:24It is not something new.
37:26It is not accepted by any means
37:28but it is not something new to suggest
37:30that there is this great increase
37:32in home invasions.
37:34There is always going to be that level of concern
37:36regarding persons invading your privacy
37:38invading your space.
37:40A man's home is his castle.
37:42It is your sacred space
37:44and somebody invading that
37:46is going to be a tremendously traumatic
37:49Those are offenses
37:51that we deal with robustly
37:53from the perspective of investigations
37:55and preventions
37:57and all these things.
37:59To his other point
38:01regarding whether the officers
38:03were wearing body cameras or not
38:05as I stated before
38:07all police shootings
38:09are investigated.
38:11There is a stringent
38:13line of investigation
38:15and investigations
38:17It is not limited to the TTPS
38:19We also have the Police Complaints Authority
38:21who also conduct their investigations
38:23We would appreciate the fact that
38:25at this point in time things are very premature
38:27I don't have the information
38:29regarding whether the officers
38:31were wearing their body cams or not
38:33but we are certain
38:35that given the investigations
38:37that I would suspect are already
38:39ongoing that we will be able to
38:41understand what has occurred
38:43how the officers were adorned
38:45and other information
38:47that would be for public consumption
38:49We take a break
38:51We'll be back
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40:13Mary has bills to pay
40:15and takes a chance parking in front of the building
40:17at the no parking sign
40:19Mary returns to her car
40:21and this is what happens
40:29Mary decides to call
40:31when she's five minutes away
40:33to let her daughter know
40:35that she is close by
40:37but Mary forgot one thing
40:43After two tickets
40:45Mary just isn't paying attention
40:47to her speed
41:03Don't be like Mary
41:05Obey the laws of the road
41:07A message from the TTPS
41:13http://TTP.com
41:43is over 55 years, but for whatever reason my greatest love is still lost.
41:50I have been with children for many, many years.
41:55And I'll give you a simple example.
41:58If a grandchild puts their arms around your neck and says,
42:03Grandpa, I love you, you cannot see nothing that child is.
42:09The same exists with our children today.
42:13Because of the fact you could do as much as possible.
42:16You could be as close as possible.
42:19When they want to do something, there's nothing you could do
42:24to find out what their greatest need is.
42:27So listen to your heart.
42:32And that's the other side.
42:34And that's the side that we spoke of.
42:36So it could be one of two.
42:38Either the parent don't know, or the parent knows,
42:43and to see a face, they would say that I never knew.
42:48But what could be some of the signs that could bring awareness
42:52to parents like myself with having your child,
42:55regardless if you think the child is three or five,
42:59and you're hearing that a teacher or teachers,
43:04when the child is getting older, is complaining about the same things,
43:07and you're like, no, that can't be my child.
43:09You confuse, I don't know what you're talking about,
43:12he or she doesn't behave like that at home.
43:15Those are the things we need to pay attention to also as parents.
43:19When we have teachers who interact with them on, let's say,
43:24for eight hours, not totally eight hours, but five to six hours,
43:29where they have interaction with your child more than you.
43:33And that is why we mentioned earlier that that door must be open.
43:37It must be open for persons to have an input,
43:40and we must be receptive to those comments
43:45that might not always be positive,
43:47because it's going to indicate to us that something is wrong
43:50and we need to take action.
43:52So the caller before the last one, he spoke about,
43:56I think it was two callers ago,
43:58he spoke about children exhibiting a particular type of behavior at times,
44:04and that should indicate to some parents that something is wrong.
44:07And these are some of the flags that we must pay attention to
44:13in order to understand, yes, something is probably wrong.
44:16So you have a child who has now gone into the realm of using alcohol
44:21or probably drugs,
44:23and it's either the child who is normally bubbly and open,
44:29has been reserved.
44:32A little more aggressive.
44:34Or it could be a little more aggressive,
44:36because it would impact persons differently.
44:38But there's a change in behavior, generally speaking.
44:40That you must observe, unless you come in the house with your eyes closed.
44:43And even if your eyes are closed, you must hear that something is different.
44:47Something is different.
44:48And you mentioned the alcohol side of it.
44:51If you know that you usually may have a lot of alcohol at home,
44:54and you're seeing some missing,
44:56and it's just you and maybe one or two other relatives in the home,
45:00and you have your child or children,
45:03and every time you go, the alcohol is missing,
45:05and no one can account for it,
45:07and the adults in the home are saying,
45:09well, no, I didn't drink, or some may not drink,
45:11or you all don't drink as much, you just use it for special occasions.
45:15All those things should be flags, no?
45:18Well, it will tell you that probably someone is drinking all the alcohol.
45:22And the possibility exists,
45:24because you said there are other persons within the household,
45:26other than the child.
45:28So the possibility exists that the child could be responsible.
45:32And it would be the responsible thing
45:35to determine whether the child is responsible for that.
45:38Because you don't want to have your child or children drinking alcohol.
45:42It's not good for their development, period.
45:45And it would contribute to them making decisions that they shouldn't be making.
45:49Yes? So, again, you are correct.
45:51If you are observing things that are happening within your household,
45:55and you are ignoring it,
45:57these things would grow.
45:59Because as I said, charity begins at home and it ends abroad.
46:02Negativity also begins at home.
46:04Yes.
46:05And it increases abroad.
46:07Yes?
46:08So it goes two ways, and we need to be very observant.
46:11You think the word privacy should be used with a child?
46:15Well, again...
46:17In the household?
46:19Again, these things are...
46:21You must establish a balance.
46:23Yes.
46:24Because you want to give children some privacy,
46:29dependent on their age,
46:31and it will go in alignment with their age
46:34and the stage of a child's development.
46:38But you ought to be careful as to how much privacy you are giving your child.
46:43I don't like that.
46:44You might be giving privacy to the extent that
46:48you are allowing the child the environment
46:51to do what he or she pleases,
46:53outside of your knowledge.
46:55If they believe...
46:57There's a saying that people will do what you are inspecting.
47:02So if you are inspecting the environment,
47:05and you are expecting them to do certain things
47:08based on your levels of inspection...
47:10That's what you're going to see.
47:12They're going to do it, because they know,
47:14hey, mommy and daddy are coming to check.
47:16But if you are not inspecting at all,
47:18then what is the mechanism for them to carry out those roles and functions?
47:22There's none.
47:24I just think that privacy is something that parents need to...
47:28As you say, I mean...
47:30It's a balance.
47:32You don't believe it at all.
47:35If you are in my house,
47:37and you tell me you need privacy, I'm confused.
47:39I'm like, what is that?
47:41I am confused to that,
47:43because I believe I can walk into your room.
47:45That's how my parents and I understood that.
47:47At any point in time,
47:49it was not Monday at 3 o'clock,
47:51you know, they're coming in the room,
47:53like clockwork, to check.
47:55Just random.
47:57They walk in, they wouldn't say a word,
47:59or just start to walk around, observe things.
48:02Up to this day,
48:04if I hear a strand of their hair,
48:06I'm like, what's going on?
48:08Everything okay?
48:10Because it's something that they're not accustomed to seeing.
48:12So, is it fair to say that some of our parents,
48:16they don't really observe their children?
48:19Well, it could be fair to say that some don't observe,
48:22and it could be fair to say that some observe,
48:25and they don't take action.
48:27Oh, okay.
48:29So, it could be one out of the two.
48:31So, what?
48:33Probably there's three.
48:35So, there are those who may observe,
48:37and take action.
48:39There are those who may not observe at all.
48:41They don't have time.
48:43They don't have the time with you.
48:45I need to live my life,
48:47and you need to figure out yourself.
48:49That's right.
48:51And then there are those who would observe,
48:53and they would take action.
48:55And those are the ones that we commend,
48:57and those are the type of parents
48:59that we would promote,
49:01and we would ask all parents to be that type of parent,
49:03where you observe,
49:05and based on your observation,
49:07you have the necessary intervention.
49:09But what about those who observe,
49:11see the problem, and ignore it?
49:13That in itself is a problem.
49:15So, is it that they're telling themselves
49:17that their child needs to be so perfect
49:19that when they see the problem,
49:21they don't bring it up because it will,
49:23as you said,
49:25something is wrong with your child,
49:27and they don't want to feel embarrassed
49:29to maybe their peers.
49:31Because that could be another reason, too.
49:33There are some parents out there
49:35that anything that deems
49:37to be damaged
49:39with regards
49:41to their child,
49:43your child is damaged,
49:45but they don't want people to know
49:47because they want the image of their child to be
49:49this A student, perfect,
49:51nailing everything, and everyone loves my child.
49:53Yes.
49:55The mistake we make is to think that
49:57everyone thinks the way we do.
49:59And we need to understand that
50:01there are parents who
50:03probably at the stage
50:05that they became parents,
50:07they were not prepared for it.
50:09There are parents who
50:11their levels
50:13of understanding
50:15may not be similar to yours.
50:17There are parents who their belief system
50:19would not be similar to yours.
50:21So, what
50:23you will value and what the society
50:25would want us to value
50:27and would want us to pass on to our children,
50:29it
50:31is beyond them
50:33in some instances, based probably
50:35on their capacity,
50:37sometimes based on their upbringing,
50:39sometimes based on their levels of maturity.
50:41And,
50:43you know, the child is now
50:45left to
50:47fend for themselves,
50:49so to speak, and you just alluded to it.
50:51But, so with
50:53all these different
50:55circumstances presenting themselves,
50:57you will always have
50:59those children who may
51:01not be getting the best type of parenting
51:03that is required.
51:05And it's just sad. We need to take a break.
51:07We'll be back and we'll wrap things up.
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52:43We are back. We are getting ready to wrap things up.
52:45ASP, you have the opportunity
52:47to speak to the public. I know we
52:49discussed a lot of things, but I think
52:51the main thing that stood out to us was the parenting.
52:53Parenting, yes.
52:55We are depending on
52:57parents to shape
52:59the future.
53:01No one
53:03I would think
53:05have really
53:07undergone any course. I know probably
53:09there are courses in order to enhance
53:11your ability to deal with children, but
53:13most persons didn't do a course.
53:15I think the majority, if not all of us.
53:17And I'm thinking there are courses available.
53:19I think I should take that up.
53:21Well.
53:23No, you never know. I should try. Why not?
53:25I just, I mean, I learn based on
53:27my parents. Yes.
53:29And the examples from
53:31being a child normal parent
53:33in that regard, but nothing is
53:35wrong with getting more information and understanding.
53:37And that is it exactly. Nothing is wrong.
53:39So we are asking persons
53:41who, you know,
53:43there's this need to be
53:45better than who you are today.
53:47And it is important for the upbringing of your child.
53:49It is important
53:51to shape your child's behavior from now.
53:53And if there
53:55is a particular stage that one would reach
53:57where you recognize that
53:59you don't believe
54:01that the impact you are having is sufficient.
54:03You don't believe what the child
54:05is experiencing is something
54:07that you can manage, something that you can deal with.
54:09You know, there are so many
54:11support factors outside there.
54:13So we need at times to,
54:15in some instances,
54:17bear your pride.
54:19In other instances, take that step
54:21towards saying, hear what, I need help.
54:23And if I need help,
54:25where to go?
54:27So we have our victim and witness support unit.
54:29We have our community policing
54:31department. We also partner
54:33with persons externally who
54:35are able to provide that level
54:37of support for persons who
54:39are seeking that type of intervention.
54:41So the support is there
54:43and it's not only limited to the
54:45police service. As I said before,
54:47there are NGOs who
54:49would have varying skill sets
54:51dependent on the circumstance
54:53that is being experienced.
54:55I think maybe you all need a sign
54:57saying parenting skills
54:59available here.
55:01And people may actually come
55:03because this is something that I think
55:05all of us may need help with.
55:07We go through different stages
55:09as parents from the time
55:11finding out that we are pregnant
55:13because I do like to say
55:15the woman is pregnant. Yes, she is physically
55:17pregnant, but how did she get pregnant?
55:19So we are pregnant and
55:21then you go through the process of
55:23whatever that may be
55:25for some women and men.
55:27And then when the child arrives, you have the
55:29postpartum for some. Others may not have it.
55:31Dealing the men with
55:33how I'm going to say about this child financially.
55:35The emotions all over
55:37the place. You're not having a
55:39clear idea of how to even begin if it's
55:41their first child. So
55:43it's a lot to just take in
55:45as an individual.
55:47And I believe having the
55:49support system there will help us.
55:51Of course.
55:53So we'd like to thank you so much Acting A&S
55:55for being here with us this evening.
55:57We get ready for news coming up next
55:59at 7 o'clock. TNT, always remember
56:01be pure and just and have God in your life no matter what.
56:03And remember, make yourself
56:05a hard target. God bless you all.
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