00:00I mean, you said we are underrating Myles Garrett some way, somehow.
00:03Go ahead.
00:03Let's hear it.
00:04Let's hear why.
00:05I understand your point.
00:08I don't even really argue with your point because we have said the same things about
00:13Myles not really a leadership guy, a front and center leadership guy.
00:17He might be more of a lead by example.
00:19It's not like he didn't work with some of the younger guys.
00:21I mean, we would point that out when it happened.
00:23But there's so much more to that.
00:24You know, they're pretty clearly later in his career with the Browns on losing teams.
00:29That was not going to be Myles Garrett's M.O.
00:32Some guys just aren't really that guy.
00:34And so I understood your point that Jared Verse comes in and is leading immediately.
00:40And they need somebody that can do that.
00:43And so I was with you there.
00:46When I hear, you know, in a DD, I ask the question and she's like,
00:50why would they be thinking about Myles Garrett?
00:51Because Myles Garrett made life easier on every other player on the field.
00:56Also made life easier on Jim Schwartz.
00:59Made life easier on Kevin Stefanski.
01:01Made life easier on Andrew Barry.
01:03Made life easier on everybody.
01:05I mean, go back and watch those Pittsburgh games at the end,
01:10the Cincinnati game at the end of the year.
01:12The Pittsburgh game, he single-handedly won the game because Aaron Rodgers was terrified.
01:18That wouldn't have happened.
01:19They wouldn't have won that game if they had Jared Verse.
01:22It just wouldn't have happened.
01:22Well, yeah, but I have plenty of people in my mansion saying,
01:24if we didn't have Myles Garrett on that team last year,
01:26we would have been able to get Fernando Mendoza.
01:28Well, then Aaron Rodgers would have just lined up and beat us.
01:31So who's holding us back?
01:33You kept saying made life easier and you listed all these things.
01:36That was on the football field.
01:38And nobody has mentioned the on the football field with this.
01:41I'm sure that when they were answering to the speeding questions
01:44and answering to the flip Porsche questions
01:47and answering to the trade request questions,
01:49that did not make their lives easier.
01:52You're right.
01:52But on the football field, on game days, they don't win.
01:55No one's talking about that.
01:57Lawrence Taylor gets suspended for things he did on the football field.
02:01Nobody cares about the football field anymore.
02:03Have you not got that?
02:04That's why they keep on bringing up this Jared Verse.
02:07He's the greatest leader that we've ever had.
02:09Thank you, thank you.
02:10Because we weren't winning any games with him on the field.
02:13That's the whole point of this whole.
02:14But I'm hearing you and Aditi.
02:16That's the whole point of this trade.
02:18I'm hearing you and Aditi talk and talk and talk
02:20about all these off the field things that you're getting
02:23out of Jared Verse.
02:24But what I'm not hearing from you guys.
02:26Yeah, because that was part of the problem.
02:27What I'm not hearing from you guys is,
02:28how's the defense going to be this year?
02:29Probably not as good as what it was last year.
02:31Well, that's all I'm saying.
02:32Because they're not as deep as what they were last year.
02:33And MJ Emerson's already having a good start to his season
02:36with the New Orleans Saints.
02:38But let me tell you where you're wrong.
02:39That's a totally different point.
02:40We're not talking about depth here.
02:41I'm saying you don't have a transcendent.
02:43You asked me.
02:43I'm saying you don't have a transcendent superstar defensive player.
02:47And we did, and we won five games.
02:47I realized that.
02:48We did, and we won five games.
02:48So why do you think we're going to win five or six this year?
02:51I didn't say that.
02:51Why does the afternoon show think we're going to win ten?
02:54I can't speak for the afternoon show and how many games
02:57that they think.
02:57Why does Booger McFarlane say we're going to be the surprise team?
03:00Because he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.
03:01And if it actually happens, I'll tell you this.
03:03If it happens, I was going to tease him for later.
03:05Go ahead and play the Booger McFarlane because if you watch any of the
03:09preseason game on Saturday, you know how far away this team is.
03:12But if this team makes the playoffs, like Booger McFarlane says,
03:15give Andrew Barry a lifetime contract because this is the greatest trade
03:18that you've ever made.
03:20You've made the best trade and the worst trade somehow in NFL history.
03:23Hit it.
03:24I think the Browns could be the surprise of the AFC.
03:27I think Watson's going to wind up being better than people think.
03:31He was legitimately a top five quarterback in the NFL when he was in Houston.
03:35Legit top five.
03:36I'll never forget watching him in the post-game press conference when a
03:40reporter asked him a question about some coverage and he detailed the
03:44coverage like Peyton Manning does on Monday night on the Manning cast.
03:47Like he was talking about the safety and cover three and all this.
03:49And I'm like, man, that dude is on it.
03:51We all know his ability to run.
03:53I just remember the Deshaun Watson at Clemson, man.
03:55Like he used to will his team to win.
03:57Now I know there's a lot that's transpired since then,
03:59but sometimes you can turn back the hands of time.
04:01I hope he turns back the hands of time.
04:04If not for this season,
04:05just for a moment where people like us who talk have to come on this
04:10microphone and say, man, it's Sean Watson.
04:12Not bad.
04:13Do I even need to say anything there to that?
04:16Do I even need to address any of that?
04:18Yeah.
04:18Respond to the points.
04:19I remember Arch Leister at Ohio state.
04:22Maybe he can come back.
04:23I know a lot of things have happened in between Ohio state and now with
04:26Arch Leister,
04:26but maybe he can come back and do it for the love of God.
04:29Where was that audio courtesy of, by the way, pardon my take.
04:32There you go.
04:33Want to give proper credit where it's due.
04:35And it's not that he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground,
04:37but I'm sorry.
04:38If you watched any bit of the second half, you go, oh my God,
04:41there's nobody out here in our secondary that has any experience
04:44whatsoever.
04:45Like this is going to, this is not going to be an easy season.
04:47It's not going to be an easy season.
04:49Now I think because your schedule ain't that great,
04:51you can win five or six games.
04:52I'm going to say six.
04:53All right.
04:54I'm going to say six.
04:55And I do think that you should be able to with Denzel Boston and Casey
04:58Concepcion, be able to run the ball a little bit better.
05:01You still only have one tight end.
05:02That's going to struggle.
05:03And because I want to say that you have these weapons,
05:05you're going to be able to run the ball a little bit better.
05:07Well, I don't know.
05:07Judging based on Saturday,
05:09didn't look like the offensive line was too cohesive,
05:11but that was their first time out.
05:12So I'm going to say they win five or six games.
05:14I'm going to stick with six.
05:15And you know what?
05:16They'll probably win less than that because that's just insane.
05:19So the whole point of the argument about the miles Garrett thing that we were
05:22just saying is that you weren't winning a lot of games as it was.
05:26And what Owen was saying was right is that it's tough to build the culture
05:30when you have to beg the greatest player to get involved,
05:36to help build the culture.
05:37And he flirted with that idea, but he was never sold on it.
05:41Jared verse, unless he's the greatest liar I've ever met.
05:44And I I've only shake his,
05:47shaking his hand once and he didn't seem like a liar unless he's the greatest
05:50liar who's ever met. I he's already better in that department.
05:53He's already better in that department.
05:55How much,
05:55how important is that department when they're going up against Aaron Rogers,
05:59I know in a game where he's so terrified of miles Garrett and where he's
06:04lined up on every play that he,
06:06it completely restricts anything that he can do.
06:09You know what?
06:10You know why it ain't that important because they still need a quarterback.
06:12And that's why they made the damn trade because in the grand scheme of
06:15things,
06:15only guys like you and me,
06:16when we're bickering with each other,
06:17we'll remember that Aaron Rogers was terrified to get sacked so he could set the
06:20record.
06:21So that's how we won that game.
06:22But in the grand scheme of things,
06:23it ain't going to make a damn bit of difference because they need somebody to
06:26help them win because nobody cares about that because you only win five games
06:30a season,
06:30even with them.
06:31Well,
06:31Mike Tomlin said last year that the Browns had the best of any of the units,
06:37offense,
06:37defense,
06:38special teams.
06:38He said the Browns had the best.
06:40We won the Mike Tomlin Superbowl.
06:41So they had the best unit in the entire division.
06:44Well,
06:44you've lost two of your biggest assets,
06:46which was Jim Schwartz,
06:47your defensive coordinator and Miles Garrett.
06:49You're transcended superstar.
06:51And you're arguing with the wrong guy.
06:53And so what I'm asking is,
06:54what do you guys think this team is going to be without those two elements?
06:57Not very good.
06:59Nobody's saying except for Booger McFarlane in the afternoon show that they're
07:03going to be a surprise this year.
07:04I can hope all I want,
07:05but I'm not saying that.
07:07So who are you yelling at here?
07:08I'm asking who you're telling me the leadership means more to this team.
07:12This group.
07:13Yeah.
07:13I'm trying to build the culture because the Philadelphia Eagles never had
07:17Miles Garrett.
07:18I know they wanted them,
07:19but they never had Miles Garrett.
07:20They won two Superbowls with the guys that they had.
07:22They might have more leadership,
07:23but if they have that quarterback play that we think they might be getting
07:27this year and they don't have Jim Schwartz and they don't have Miles
07:30Garrett,
07:31they could be a three-win football team.
07:32So what is the leadership getting you?
07:35Did the Seahawks have Miles Garrett this last year?
07:37They did not.
07:38Okay.
07:38Did the Philadelphia Eagles before them have Miles Garrett?
07:41Had the Patriots ever had Miles Garrett?
07:43He's not been on the team.
07:43Okay.
07:44I'm just making sure.
07:44Teams win Superbowls without Miles Garrett.
07:46Ken,
07:47who's always the pinnacle of saying,
07:48hey,
07:49got to have good football players to win.
07:50Well,
07:50they just got rid of the best football players to win.
07:52I'm not making an argument for 22 Scott Solomons on the team.
07:55He's okay with having lesser good football players.
07:57So Jared Burst isn't a good player?
07:58He's good.
07:59Jared Burst isn't good.
07:59He is not a transcendent player.
08:03Blima thinks Jared Burst ain't good.
08:04So Ken doesn't want the transcendent football players.
08:06We had the transcendent player.
08:07That's the good football players.
08:08We had the transcendent player and we won eight games in two years
08:10with the transcendent player.
08:12So I'm still wondering how this formula works that they're going to win
08:14more football games.
08:15Well,
08:15I'm sorry.
08:15I'm guessing I'm going to have to call Jonathan in from Solon.
08:18No,
08:18excuse me,
08:18North Solon.
08:19We want to make sure that I didn't know there was a difference,
08:21but according to Jonathan,
08:22there is.
08:23So we have to call Jonathan in from North Solon and he's going to have to
08:26argue with it.
08:26Cause I'm not the one saying they're going to win 10 games this year.
08:30For the love of God,
08:32you're having an argument with me and I'm saying six wins.
08:36Didn't say 10,
08:36never came out of my mouth.
08:38Berger McFarlane says they're going to be the surprise of that.
08:41Sean Watts is going to be the top five.
08:43Do you think their defense is going to be top five this year?
08:46They're what?
08:47Is their defense going to be top five this year?
08:49No.
08:49Top 10?
08:51There's a possibility.
08:52Yes.
08:52But I'm a little bit nervous because of the depth.
08:54If they're not a top 10 defense this year,
08:56they're going to win like three games.
08:58Well,
08:59see at the draft.
09:00Cause that's the way a lot of people are saying it.
09:02People are okay with that.
09:03I think a lot of people are actually like,
09:05I don't think they're okay with it.
09:06I just think they're ready for the reality of what this season is going to
09:09bring.
09:11I got five new offensive linemen.
09:13I got one.
09:14I'm really excited about that.
09:15Spencer Fano.
09:16Okay.
09:16He's the first round pick.
09:17I got nothing outside of the three guys that we always mentioned in the
09:21secondary.
09:22Now that's a playoff team.
09:26Okay.
09:27Some good tweets coming in.
09:28Charles and brought to you by Scheiben Jewelers,
09:30Cleveland's premier jewelry store.
09:31Charles says,
09:31how good of a leader on the field and off the field will verse be once this
09:34team starts losing.
09:35That's going to be a hell of a leader.
09:37And tell Charles,
09:37that's going to be a hell of a test by him.
09:39Cause he is going to be,
09:40he is going to be tested.
09:41I would hope his time at U Albany and Florida state prepared him a little
09:44bit.
09:45He went to the NFL.
09:46He went to a team that already has leaders in the Los Angeles Rams.
09:50Hopefully he's able to do it.
09:51Cause they are going to reach a part where they're going to have to get in the
09:53foxhole and he's going to have to be the one to lead them.
09:55So yes,
09:56as of right now,
09:57this is all time sensitive.
09:58That's a great tweet by Charles.
10:00Totally.
10:00100% with them.
10:01The tough part has not started yet.
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