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00:00And I thought it was interesting when Andrew Barry,
00:03when they asked Andrew Barry about Deshaun Watson
00:05and the openness, potential openness on what happens
00:09if he takes the starting job and plays well this year.
00:11Here's Andrew Barry.
00:12I think everything's on the table.
00:14I think it would be silly to go into a season and say,
00:18hey, something absolutely can or cannot happen.
00:21And I think particularly at the quarterback position,
00:23we've seen it with guys, whether it's Sam Darnold
00:25or Daniel Jones or Geno Smith or even Baker.
00:29I think you have to be open-minded and flexible.
00:31But yeah, I wouldn't rule out anything.
00:33We're looking for guys who can perform and who can lead.
00:36Now, anyone that has followed those four quarterbacks
00:39know that that is an insincere comparison
00:43given that those guys were guys people were watching
00:46for breakouts before they paid them.
00:48And Deshaun is, we're just looking for any sign
00:51of like acceptable football for five years.
00:53But I do understand the central messaging.
00:55And I do think that is how the Browns have to think.
00:58It's not how I have to think.
01:00It's not how you have to think.
01:01Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:01But it is how they have to think, given right now,
01:04they have a quarterback room that, until proven otherwise,
01:07is a bridge to nowhere.
01:08Yeah, bringing Baker's name into this, by the way,
01:10is what the kids would call nasty work, I feel like.
01:12But that's fine.
01:14He even said, even Baker.
01:15I was like, he's going to want that one word back
01:19when he thinks back to this interview.
01:21He's not done a lot of these tours.
01:22He's starting to do a lot more of them, though.
01:24But the idea that he's trying to make it seem
01:26as if Baker was some lost soul
01:28and then was found and redemptive by another team
01:30is just a spin among spits.
01:32He was taken number one overall.
01:34Okay?
01:35Like, I'm sorry.
01:35I can't.
01:36He was a Heisman winner and taken number one overall.
01:38What are we talking about?
01:39It would also be like abandoning a dog on the road.
01:42And like two years later, like a little puppy on the road.
01:45And then two years later, you read that that dog
01:46has like the best life ever.
01:48They found a beautiful, loving home.
01:49And being like, see, it can happen for anyone.
01:52It's like, dog, you did this.
01:53You did this, sir.
01:56You don't like that analogy.
01:57Well, I mean, because it made it seem like Baker
01:58was some sort of like, I don't know,
02:00roughed up dog previously.
02:01Like he got Baker.
02:02They screwed him.
02:03He got Baker.
02:03Yeah, but he got Baker at his apex.
02:06So we need to start with this fluffy dog
02:08basically being born on third base.
02:10Okay?
02:10Like it's like everything's perfect with the dog,
02:12perfect health.
02:13And then you turn this dog into the roughed up dog
02:16you're describing.
02:17And then there we go.
02:18That poor dog.
02:19And then you turn around and be like,
02:20I can't believe it.
02:21He turns out everything's all right with the dog.
02:23It's like, yeah, it only had problems
02:25when it was with you.
02:26You were the one that made it rough.
02:28You're the reason why this happened.
02:29But I do think like the Browns,
02:31until Deshaun or Shador get the job
02:34and either succeed or fail,
02:36or until, you know, the failure happens
02:38and then you go into next year
02:39and you're in a prime position to land a quarterback.
02:41And even then that quarterback's got to play well.
02:45Every option has to be on the table.
02:47And so, like for me,
02:49when I think about what it would take for me
02:51to put future money towards Deshaun Watson,
02:54I guarantee you the threshold is much higher
02:58than it is for Andrew Barry.
03:00Because right now, he's thinking,
03:02I'm in the quarterback-less abyss.
03:03We played four quarterbacks last year.
03:05We played, was it five quarterbacks the year before?
03:08And this is all my,
03:10these ruins are mine and of my making.
03:13So he's thinking, I guarantee you,
03:16can we get Deshaun to acceptable levels
03:18and then maybe we get to a bridge contract
03:19and let it play out from there?
03:21For me, I need to see better than acceptable.
03:24I need to see the Browns win a lot more games
03:26than people think they can win this year.
03:28And I need to see Deshaun Watson
03:29look something close to Houston Deshaun Watson
03:32before I'm willing to spend a single cent in that direction.
03:35I just think it'd be dumb of him to close the door
03:37in a conversation in June
03:40when there's a real chance Deshaun could be the week one quarterback.
03:43Like, think about how galactically stupid
03:44that would have to be from Andrew Barry.
03:46Ah, no, you know, we're not.
03:48This is all Deshaun's got.
03:49He's got one year to figure it out
03:50and we're definitely taking the quarterback in 2027
03:53no matter what happens.
03:54He'd never say that.
03:55You gotta crack the door open.
03:56You gotta leave it open
03:57until Deshaun either makes it open a little bit more
04:00or closes it completely.
04:02Yeah, I think that's interesting.
04:03I do think some people heard these comments
04:05and either felt vindicated
04:07because they've been saying this the whole time
04:08or felt like, oh, it's really gonna happen.
04:11And it's like, no.
04:12I think all Andrew Barry said
04:13on a lot of fronts today is, you know,
04:16let's let this season happen
04:17and then we'll react accordingly.
04:19That's where the Browns should be.
04:21The Browns, it's not as if they get a free pass
04:23or a Peterlin pass,
04:24but they do get a scenario here
04:26to allow this to play out
04:28both with a quarterback spot
04:29and a lot of this roster
04:30and then see where they are in a year
04:33even if they're not the people
04:34running the show in a year.
04:35Yeah, you just, you give yourself the idea
04:38that if Deshaun Watson just, you know,
04:40blows your socks off,
04:41then all of a sudden you will talk about extension.
04:43But to close that door on, I don't know, June 12th
04:46would just be one of the dumber things
04:49you could do if you're Andrew Barry.
04:50He'd never do it.
04:50Now, if you are a betting man,
04:53not only from what we're hearing
04:54that, you know, Shador has come on
04:57these last couple of weeks here practices,
04:59I'm starting to believe more and more
05:01that Shador is gonna take this job
05:03and he might get it by virtue of,
05:07I don't want to say default,
05:08but like what, when I hear what Daryl said
05:12and what other people have said
05:13about how Deshaun looks,
05:14where one out of every three passes
05:17look like it belongs
05:18and then you're seeing a lot of five yards in front,
05:20five yards over.
05:21Yeah.
05:21What that says to me is that his arm
05:23is still an absolute wild card
05:25and two years removed from that surgery.
05:28That's not what you want to hear.
05:30Like, and I hearken it to,
05:31I watched this happen with Cam Newton
05:33after the second shoulder surgery
05:36and I was watching him in training camp
05:37and everything was five feet in front of him,
05:39five feet over,
05:40or it was the, like, he looked like he was,
05:43like, to throw like a five-yard slant pass,
05:45he looked like he was charging up
05:47to throw a 60-yard pass.
05:49That's tough.
05:50And then we saw it happen
05:51in two short regular season games
05:53and then everyone,
05:55when Cam got cut and went to New England,
05:56everybody fell for what New England was doing,
05:59where they basically ran an option offense
06:01for those first five games of the,
06:03I think it was the 2020 season,
06:05so that's the COVID year.
06:06And I remember saying, like,
06:07guys, we haven't seen him pass.
06:09He can't pass.
06:10And effectively, that's what happened.
06:13The booty fell out of that season
06:15and then Cam kind of,
06:16his career went away.
06:18So much of what I'm hearing
06:20from beat reporters,
06:21again, I haven't laid eyes on it,
06:23but so much of what I'm hearing
06:24from beat reporters
06:24are the same things I was saying
06:26watching Cam in Spartanburg
06:29in 2019,
06:30coming off his second shoulder surgery.
06:33And if he can't,
06:34if he doesn't have feel in his arm
06:37and the Browns do decide
06:38to start him week one,
06:40I think it would be a massive,
06:41massive,
06:42I mean,
06:43massive probably isn't strong enough,
06:45gigantic mistake.
06:46I don't know.
06:47I mean,
06:47I guess they just have to be
06:48really honest with themselves
06:49and try to figure out if it's,
06:50because what you're describing with Cam,
06:52and I thought what happened with Cam,
06:53it was a dead arm
06:53at the end of it, right?
06:55That's not what,
06:57I think anyone believes
06:58that Deshaun has right now,
06:59but if that is what it ends up being,
07:01they have to be really honest
07:02with what they're seeing
07:03and they have to be really honest
07:04with the idea
07:04that you can't just throw him out there
07:06if you think that he's
07:07dealing with injuries
07:08or dealing with something.
07:09Now, again,
07:09Deshaun,
07:10coming from the horse's mouth,
07:12Deshaun,
07:12when he did speak,
07:13said that he's as physically healthy
07:14as he's ever been,
07:15essentially.
07:15And so like,
07:16well,
07:16what else do you think he's going to say?
07:17This might be the one time
07:18that it is true going forward,
07:21because at this point,
07:22you've got a head coach
07:24who's new enough
07:25that he doesn't,
07:26I think,
07:26I'm sure he's aware of,
07:28but maybe doesn't understand
07:29the uneven relationship
07:33Deshaun has
07:35with his,
07:35with Browns fans
07:37and even Deshaun the other day.
07:38And this is the one clip
07:39I did watch
07:39where he said,
07:40yeah,
07:41I'm not really impacted
07:41by that outside noise
07:43and I don't buy it.
07:44I don't buy that.
07:45And I do think though,
07:47this might be the one time
07:48the organization
07:48can just make the decision
07:50that they want to make
07:51because Deshaun's on
07:53what is effectively
07:54an expiring contract.
07:55You've already paid him his money.
07:56At the same point,
07:59there's going to be
07:59a lot of people
08:00who line up to justify
08:01starting Deshaun over Shador
08:03for a myriad of reasons.
08:04There definitely is.
08:05By the way,
08:05I would say,
08:06if you do get a couple minutes,
08:07I do think you'd take something
08:08out of listening
08:09to Deshaun's press conference.
08:11I thought he was really strong
08:12if I'm just being truthful about it.
08:13I thought he represented
08:15himself very well.
08:16How much of it is true
08:17and how much of it
08:17was just lip service,
08:18I don't know,
08:19but it felt genuine to me.
08:20And so there was something to that,
08:23like acknowledging how hurt he felt
08:25by the Browns fan base
08:26with the boos and everything like that.
08:28There was a couple instances
08:30where you kind of got to peek into like,
08:32oh, this is a real human.
08:34Him talking about how introverted
08:35of a person he's now become
08:36since his own actions,
08:37by the way.
08:38That's why I don't feel bad
08:39for any of them.
08:39He did this to himself.
08:41I need to remind everybody of that.
08:43But yeah, he seemed different
08:45and he seemed like he was
08:48at least on the right track
08:49to understanding why it is
08:50so many people do dislike him.
08:52Yeah, and I think, listen,
08:53I wouldn't extend him.
08:55There's just,
08:56the only way that I would extend him
08:58is if you make the playoffs this year
09:00and he looks something
09:02very, very close
09:03to what he was in Houston
09:03or he looks like he did in Houston.
09:05I don't put a high probability
09:07on that happening,
09:08let alone him getting the job
09:09in the first place.
09:10Right.
09:10I think the Browns threshold
09:12has to be lower
09:13and it actually has nothing to do
09:15with any of the history
09:18with Deshaun.
09:18It has everything to do
09:19with what your future looks like.
09:21If they go 7-10
09:23or 8-9 with Deshaun
09:25and it's like a late,
09:26you know,
09:26there may be like
09:27on the playoff fringes
09:28and then a couple late losses
09:30push him out
09:30and he has a average
09:32quarterback season,
09:34well, you're going to,
09:35you might still draft
09:36a quarterback,
09:37but you're probably not drafting
09:38one of the one or two best
09:39in this next draft.
09:42So keeping Deshaun here
09:43as a bridge quarterback
09:44will then make sense
09:45in that scenario.
09:46I think that's
09:47maybe the most likely scenario
09:49if Deshaun gets the job
09:50and can sustain it
09:51for a full season.
09:53But that's,
09:54but again,
09:54that's not what Nick Wilson
09:55was doing.
09:56That's just what I think
09:56they would do
09:57because of,
09:57I think they understand
09:59that you've got to have
10:00multiple options
10:00at quarterback
10:01to put the next quarterback
10:02in a position to succeed
10:03as well.
10:04The question also becomes
10:05at what point
10:06are they really ready
10:07to turn the page?
10:07How desperate are they
10:08to turn the page
10:09and say we're done
10:10with Deshaun Watson
10:11because March
10:12of this upcoming year
10:13is going to be the first time
10:14they can really get out of it
10:15if they want to
10:16and have that choice.
10:17Again,
10:18they don't have to do anything,
10:19but how desperate are they to?
10:21Because my desperation
10:23to get out of it
10:23has not been matched
10:24by Andrew Barry's desperation
10:25to get out of it.
10:26That's just been unequivocally
10:27true to this point.
10:28And the idea that they're
10:29even going through
10:30with this process right now
10:31tells me that that's true.
10:32And so we have to really
10:34kind of assess
10:35how ready are they
10:36to kick him to the curb
10:37and say we're done
10:38with that era
10:39because they're so ready
10:39to be done
10:40with every other era
10:41of Browns players
10:42that have existed
10:42for the previous 10 years.
10:43It'd be funny
10:44if this was the one
10:44where like,
10:45I don't want to let it go.
10:46I know.
10:46It's like they're so ready
10:48to pack up the bags
10:49of everybody else
10:50and send them on their way.
10:51Like, why are they
10:52going to hang on
10:52to this part
10:53of the Browns
10:55recent half decade?
10:56Well, maybe it's
10:57because when they signed him
10:58they said it was
10:59a 10-year plan
11:00not a 5-year plan
11:00and they want to see
11:01that through.
11:02I don't know.
11:03But for me
11:03it just seems foolish.
11:05Yeah, I mean,
11:05I would have been done
11:07with this if I could have
11:07been two years ago.
11:09There were points
11:10where I didn't even want
11:11the guy on the roster.
11:12I didn't want the threat
11:13of him playing again.
11:14I think we had big arguments
11:15over the idea
11:16I'm like,
11:16you can't actually
11:17cut him right now
11:18and you're like,
11:18I don't care.
11:19Yeah, cut the whole team.
11:20I'm proud of him.
11:20I don't care.
11:21And I'm like,
11:21you can't do it yet.
11:23But like,
11:23I look at it now
11:24and I understand
11:25we're in a pragmatic situation
11:26and so I don't personally
11:29really want to see
11:30Deshaun play again
11:31if that's Todd Munkin's decision.
11:33Well, it better be a right one
11:34but okay.
11:36Go win games.
11:37Like, we're at a point
11:38where I don't want to go
11:39through another
11:40three or five win season.
11:41If that's what this ends up being
11:42it's what it ends up being.
11:44But I want them to try
11:46and do everything they can
11:47to try and win this year
11:48and if Deshaun is a part of that
11:50attempt
11:51as long as you're getting results
11:53and again, results are obviously
11:55something we can haggle over
11:57I can handle that
11:58because quite frankly
11:59that's better than
12:01I was going to say
12:02a two and fifteen season
12:03that gets you the number one pick
12:04but like a four or five win season
12:06where you still have to
12:08somehow trade up
12:09and use your extra draft collateral
12:10to go get a quarterback
12:11and even then
12:12that's basically what last year was
12:13five win season
12:14but you're taking six overall
12:15and you would have used
12:16a lot of capital
12:17I'm basically
12:18I want to either get
12:19the number one pick
12:20so that you can
12:22without a dispute
12:23pick your quarterback
12:24you don't have to
12:24you don't have to worry about
12:26well, these two guys
12:27we like more win first
12:28and we kind of settled
12:29on this one
12:29no, I want the
12:30who you think is the best
12:32quarterback in this draft
12:33or
12:33I want to be thinking about
12:35the playoffs in December
12:37and anything in between
12:38is
12:39with Deshaun specifically
12:40doesn't really do
12:42diddly squat for me
12:42no, you're right
12:43anything in between
12:44is almost like
12:45this
12:46this
12:46hell zone
12:47that we're going to be living in
12:48this disaster zone
12:50that you'd be living in
12:51where you're not good enough
12:51to get the number one overall pick
12:53and then you're also
12:53competitive enough
12:54where you're going to
12:55just deplete all your assets
12:56and resources
12:57and trying to get
12:58your quarterback
12:59and so
13:00this is going to be tough
13:02there's no other way
13:02to look at it
13:03this is going to be tough
13:03but I just
13:04I don't see a world
13:05that exists
13:06where Deshaun
13:06ends up with an extension here
13:08now
13:09with this being said
13:11there has been
13:11a few different
13:12a few different outlets
13:14that have talked about
13:15potential disappointment
13:16with the Browns
13:16I know you brought up
13:18Christopher Knox
13:19of the Bleacher Report
13:20who I'd never heard of
13:22six months ago
13:23and now I feel like
13:24this guy's just constantly
13:25lobbing hot take pieces
13:26on Bleacher Report
13:27it's great
13:27you should read all of them though
13:28called the old Pocket Kings
13:29oh
13:31not touching it
13:32not in a feel good friend
13:34you got Pocket Kings
13:36KK
13:36Christopher Knox
13:39not touching it
13:39that's all I got
13:40you're tempting me
13:40I'm not tempting you
13:42with anything
13:42this is like
13:43this is like Jake
13:43with his
13:45homogenous mispronounce
13:46I'm just playing poker
13:47I don't know
13:48what you're talking about
13:49now
13:49he had said
13:51he had said
13:51that the OTAs
13:52that Browns
13:53were one of the
13:53disappointing teams
13:54because they traded miles
13:55and unresolved
13:56quarterback issues
13:57and then Daryl
13:58who was on
13:58with Anthony
14:00today
14:00in place of Ken
14:01on the Ken Carman show
14:02with Anthony Lima
14:03talked about
14:04his disappointment
14:05with the Browns
14:07coming out of OTAs
14:08for me it's
14:08really disappointing
14:09that he can't pick
14:10a quarterback
14:10I'm going to put that
14:11through a coaching translator
14:13neither one of these guys
14:14has distinguished themselves
14:15enough to earn the job yet
14:17what this all boils down to
14:19very simply is
14:21neither one of these guys
14:22are at a level
14:24where
14:24they're going to
14:26lead the Browns
14:27to wins this fall
14:29they're
14:29wildly
14:30inconsistent
14:31when you have
14:32the
14:34inconsistency
14:34that you have
14:35how can you pick
14:36either one of these guys
14:36there's no consistency
14:38practice to practice
14:39with these quarterbacks
14:40you can't pick a guy
14:41right now
14:41I totally get where
14:42Todd Munkin's coming from
14:43with all due love
14:44and respect
14:45to one of my best
14:46friends at the station
14:47somebody who I love
14:48dearly
14:48please
14:49I'm right here
14:50holy crap
14:52is that a gross
14:53overreaction
14:54from Daryl Ryder today
14:56if this is a true
14:57quarterback battle
14:58it would honestly
14:59be a disappointment
15:00if it was so
15:01one-sided
15:02that somebody
15:02had stolen the job
15:03at this point
15:04they just got through
15:05installs
15:06they've been
15:07one day it's
15:08Shador with the ones
15:09the next it's
15:10it's Deshaun
15:11and then they flip back
15:12and reverse it
15:12Missy Elliott
15:13thank you very much
15:14nice
15:14and the point is
15:16like
15:16what legitimate
15:18quarterback battle
15:19have any of us
15:20seen in history
15:21and I'm not just
15:22talking Browns
15:22I'm talking about
15:22NFL history
15:23where it's been
15:24a good thing
15:25that the thing
15:26was saddled up
15:27if it was legitimate
15:28by the end of OTAs
15:29that means one of these
15:30guys would have to
15:31screw the pooch
15:31so significantly
15:32that they might not
15:34even be deserving
15:34of making the roster
15:36by the time
15:36countdowns come
15:37I just
15:38I think the idea
15:39that
15:39this should be
15:41decided in training
15:42camp
15:42and I think
15:43too many people
15:44and Daryl in this
15:44case is one
15:45of them
15:45are holding on
15:46to what Todd
15:47Munkin said
15:49three months ago
15:50and that's
15:50that's the problem
15:51Nick
15:51it's a generalization
15:52the guy said
15:53you don't have to
15:54take everything
15:54like it's a damn
15:55commandment
15:56they put his words
15:57from a couple months
15:58ago and thought
15:58that this was going
15:59to be the deadline
16:00made it the deadline
16:00in their head
16:01and then now are
16:01upset that in fact
16:03we've changed
16:03the deadline
16:04like who cares
16:04he's the head coach
16:05of the team
16:06he gets to change
16:06it whenever he wants
16:07he's got up until
16:08week one to make
16:09his decision
16:09he doesn't have to
16:10do it on any sort
16:11of to make the
16:12media members
16:13feel happy
16:14timeline
16:14I just
16:15I want him to
16:16take his time
16:17with this
16:17I want him to
16:18evaluate it
16:18the way he needs
16:19to evaluate it
16:20and you're right
16:20it would be an
16:21absolute disaster
16:22if he looked
16:23across and was
16:23like I know
16:24with certainty
16:24this is the guy
16:25shut it down
16:26competition's over
16:27I also think
16:28if you go back
16:28and listen to the
16:29clip I think
16:30he was speaking
16:30in a generality
16:32like oh hell
16:32yeah it'd be great
16:33if somebody just
16:34took the job
16:35he wasn't saying
16:36that was his
16:36expectation
16:37and I just
16:38I like
16:39where we are
16:39right now
16:40listen
16:40I understand
16:41that the
16:42quarterback spot
16:43right now
16:43should be looked
16:44at with cynicism
16:46so until
16:47until you have
16:48concrete proof
16:49you have all
16:50the permission
16:51in the world
16:51to be like
16:51I don't think
16:52it's gonna work
16:52I get that
16:53but to then
16:54because nobody
16:55because Deshaun
16:56looks like a guy
16:57that's still
16:58learning an offense
16:58and coming off
16:59two massive injuries
17:00and since
17:01Shador is still
17:02what is it
17:03a fifth round
17:03quarterback
17:04that there's a
17:05certain segment
17:05of the population
17:06can't stop
17:07telling you
17:07he had
17:07historically
17:08the worst
17:08rookie season
17:09ever
17:11and he won
17:12three games
17:12by the way
17:13however
17:14like guys
17:15the idea
17:16that either
17:16one of these
17:17guys was gonna
17:17be a finished
17:18product on
17:19May 30th
17:20or June 12th
17:21is a laughable
17:22thing
17:22like if we're
17:24having these
17:24same conversations
17:2512 days into
17:26camp
17:27it'll probably
17:28be time to
17:29have the old
17:29callback to
17:30Zach Jackson
17:31from a couple
17:31years ago
17:32with the offense
17:32the 2024
17:33offense
17:34where it's like
17:34no they look
17:35like bleep
17:35and it's
17:36it's getting
17:36laid
17:38June 12th
17:39OTAs
17:39no no no
17:40we haven't even
17:40seen them
17:41really do
17:41anything
17:42yes
17:42that's the
17:43important part
17:43of this
17:44it'd be different
17:44if we'd watch
17:45them really do
17:46a lot of
17:4611 on 11
17:47like real
17:4811 on 11
17:48stuff where
17:49they're they're
17:49actually like
17:50hitting each
17:50other and
17:51they're putting
17:51pads on and
17:52they're doing
17:52some of this
17:53work
17:53I haven't even
17:54gone up against
17:54Denzel Ward
17:55like what are we
17:55talking about
17:56you haven't seen
17:57them go up against
17:57the very best
17:58Browns players on
17:59this defense
18:00Miles Garrett
18:00wasn't there the
18:01entire time
18:01he's not there
18:01anymore now
18:02but obviously
18:03then you have
18:03Denzel you have
18:04all these
18:05different guys
18:05that we haven't
18:05even seen play
18:06and this is how
18:07you want to
18:07evaluate this
18:08yeah it would
18:09be I said
18:10yesterday I
18:10believe it to be
18:11true Nick
18:11if you came out
18:12yesterday and
18:13said Deshaun
18:14Watson's the
18:15quarterback I
18:16would have been
18:16livid at the
18:17idea that it
18:18wasn't a fair
18:18fight it would
18:19have been like
18:19you're gonna make
18:20the decision up
18:20that quickly
18:21you haven't even
18:22seen these guys
18:23well same thing
18:24with Shador by the
18:24way if he'd
18:25came out and
18:25just been like
18:25Shador's got the
18:26job would I
18:27have been happy
18:27because that's the
18:27outcome I want
18:28yeah I would
18:29have but I also
18:30would have looked at
18:30him a little
18:31side-eye and
18:31been like oh
18:33geez didn't
18:34even didn't
18:34even give
18:34Deshaun a real
18:35chance there
18:35didn't you
18:36yeah it was so
18:36if if they had
18:38named if they
18:38had named Shador
18:39specifically which
18:40would have been a
18:41really quick 180
18:43after the miles
18:44trade I would
18:44have said oh so
18:45you were just
18:46kind of putting up
18:47a fight until
18:47you traded miles
18:48is that what you
18:48were doing and
18:49if they had said
18:50Deshaun I would
18:51have said oh so
18:52you just didn't
18:52give Shador a real
18:53chance right
18:54because it's so
18:54early in this that
18:55it's on it's just
18:56unfair to get mad
18:58at him for not
18:58making a call on
18:59this it just seems
19:00crazy even
19:01Christopher Knox
19:02with two K's on
19:03the Bleacher
19:04Report thing
19:05saying trading
19:06miles and in
19:08the unresolved
19:08quarterback issues
19:09I just I
19:11listen I
19:11understand that
19:13we're in a spot
19:14right now that
19:15a lot of people
19:16don't have a lot
19:16of expectations
19:17for the Browns
19:18but I think that
19:19is guiding a lot
19:20of people to
19:20just kill the
19:21Browns before
19:22anything happens
19:22and there are
19:24certain seasons
19:25where that makes
19:25sense and there
19:27by the way there
19:27are certain seasons
19:28where let's play
19:29it out let's
19:31let it play out
19:31also ends up
19:32being the case
19:33that's what this
19:33is like I
19:35don't know that
19:35the Browns
19:36definitively are
19:37going to be as
19:37good as I
19:37thought they were
19:38before the
19:39miles trade and
19:39before they
19:40didn't do
19:41anything at
19:41quarterback this
19:42offseason I
19:44don't know but
19:45you've got a
19:46young team full of
19:47first and second
19:48guys you get a
19:48lot of guys who
19:49are either first
19:50second or third
19:51round picks or
19:52guys who have
19:52earned playing time
19:53the hard way on a
19:54team of veterans
19:55previously you do
19:56have more depth
19:57than people give
19:58you credit for
19:58and you finally
19:59have pieces on
20:01offense and guys
20:02who might form an
20:03offensive line do
20:04things have to go
20:05right yes do they
20:06often go right in
20:07Cleveland and no
20:08not with the Browns
20:09but do I think that
20:11there's a chance that
20:13there's something here
20:14that maybe people can't
20:15see yet yes and do I
20:16think there are too
20:17many people going
20:18negative early because
20:20it's easy and it's
20:21maybe a little low
20:22hanging fruit a
20:23hundred percent I
20:24like this and I you
20:25know me neither of
20:27us love to say let's
20:29see how this plays
20:29out this is the
20:30this is the
20:31prototypical we got
20:32to see how it plays
20:33out season what's
20:34interesting about it
20:34over the past couple
20:35days Nick is that the
20:37quarterback spot
20:37obviously there's been
20:38a lot of people and
20:39Daryl he came on and
20:40just absolutely ripped
20:41to Sean and his
20:42performances and and
20:43that's fine I can live
20:44with that I do right
20:45you're out there tell
20:45us what you see right
20:46the other side of this
20:47though is it's been
20:48largely positive I feel
20:49like and so I put the
20:51quarterback stuff aside
20:52and even though that's
20:53the most important
20:53position and it
20:54matters more than
20:55anything it's hard to
20:56put aside people been
20:57raving about what
20:58Munkin's been doing
20:59they've been raving
20:59about the wide
21:00receivers they've been
21:01raving about a lot of
21:02different parts of this
21:02team and it's odd
21:04because in one sense of
21:05this you can't get
21:06overly optimistic
21:07because the quarterback
21:07spot just matters so
21:08much but they are
21:09giving you things to be
21:11excited about yeah and
21:12and I think I continue
21:15to come back to
21:15something I know
21:16you've heard a million
21:17times so I'm sorry
21:17that I have to repeat
21:18myself again it wasn't
21:20just the quarterbacks if
21:22you had had a better
21:23ecosystem including
21:24where your head coach
21:25was where your play
21:26caller was at any
21:27semblance of a healthy
21:29offensive line especially
21:30off the edges another
21:33name that could produce
21:34anything last year that
21:35wasn't Harold Fannin
21:37jr I don't know the
21:38quarterback position would
21:40have looked as bad on
21:41paper as it did all of
21:43those that was the
21:44perfect storm of suck
21:45that happened last year I
21:48can't guarantee you that
21:49Chador and Deshaun are
21:49going to be better but
21:50the circumstance around
21:51them is immeasurably
21:53better and that does
21:55matter this season will
21:56tell us how much it
21:57matters yeah the
21:58circumstances and what
21:59you are around in
21:59football is just it just
22:00it's it's everything in
22:01my opinion it really does
22:03it shapes a lot of what
22:03these quarterbacks can
22:04and cannot be unless
22:05you're a Mahomes or
22:06you're a Brady you're
22:07one of those guys who
22:08you're playing with is
22:09look at Sam Darnold
22:11he's the perfect example
22:12of who you're with who
22:13you're around can make a
22:14world of difference into
22:15what your outcome ends
22:16up being
22:16you're a big
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