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00:00:01The new, hotly anticipated Grand Theft Auto is being released today, and fans are revved up and gearing up to
00:00:09buy it.
00:00:09Set in 1980s Miami, Vice City lets you be a gangster in your own home, and promises to be as
00:00:17colorful and controversial as its predecessors.
00:00:20Yes, after the seminal Grand Theft Auto 3, the question game watchers are asking is, can Sam Houser's Rockstar Games
00:00:28pull off, making the most successful game ever, twice, in the space of one year?
00:00:34You're listening to WYMZ, New York's biggest and best radio station.
00:00:40This morning, we're talking about Grand Theft Auto, Vice City, the hot new one from Rockstar Games hit the stores
00:00:47today.
00:00:48Expectation is sky high, but just how good is it?
00:00:55Let's take a call. I've got Newark's Phil Lombard on the line.
00:00:58Hey, Sam Houser is a genius, man. This game is beautiful. I bought it at midnight. It had to stand
00:01:04in line for four hours to get it.
00:01:13I've been playing it ever since. It's huge. They've recreated the whole of 1980s Miami. They've made a living, breathing
00:01:21city.
00:01:21There's a great storyline this time, amazing visuals, loads of kick-ass 80s radio stations, and a huge number of
00:01:28cool missions.
00:01:29Sounds great.
00:01:30It is, Steve. But what makes it genius is the size of the gameplay area, and the detail.
00:01:35GTA 3 was seminal. It changed the whole of gaming. I think this one's even better.
00:01:40Phil, I'm gonna let you get back to playing with yourself.
00:01:44Let's take another call. I think we've got a female gamer on the line.
00:01:48Hello, Peggy. Is that right?
00:01:50No, you're on the female.
00:01:56Terry, have you seen the figures? We sold a million units. A million. In one fucking day.
00:02:22So whatever we do next, we have to take it to the next level. I know we're all excited about
00:02:26how Vice City's done, but EA are breathing down our necks and we have demanding fans.
00:02:31So, I want to create a world full of incredible, realistic detail that evokes real emotions in the players. Yeah,
00:02:38far more than we did in Vice.
00:02:39Take-Two are expecting the next GTA within a year, by which they mean nine months.
00:02:43We can do this in a year.
00:02:44Yeah, I had to discourage about 50 people from leaving every week.
00:02:47We can't put everyone through that again.
00:02:49Well, so we hire more people. Boys in the Hood, Menace to Society, Colors, all have a fucking cool vibe.
00:02:55Like, that's the world we're in. South Central LA, Compton and Watts.
00:02:58The Black Hood Gang. Those barrios are vibe.
00:03:00You remember when the Crips and the Bloods were fighting in the 80s?
00:03:02Can't make a game about that.
00:03:04Why not?
00:03:04We're British. We know nothing about it.
00:03:07Hey, look, we're good at making games about American culture because we grew up absorbed in it.
00:03:12But you're talking about a real American conflict.
00:03:14Exactly. Something real. It's not just an iteration of a TV show or a film.
00:03:17Because we're outsiders, we see America for what it is.
00:03:20Better than they do.
00:03:26Cowboys ain't easy to love.
00:03:28There she is. The successful wife.
00:03:34I got us Italian.
00:03:36Oh, great. I'm starving. Long day.
00:03:45Johnny.
00:03:46Dinner.
00:03:47May the Lord bless this meal and grant us a compassionate and understanding heart.
00:03:52In Jesus' name we pray. Amen.
00:03:55Amen.
00:03:56All right.
00:03:57This looks good.
00:04:23Listen, I'm going to need your help with this. We need to push it.
00:04:26We need to be careful, though, Sam. Finishing Vice City nearly killed everyone. We go bigger, it's going to be
00:04:32harder.
00:04:32It's not just about scale. Now, come on, little brother. You're the clever, funny one. We need new ideas to
00:04:38move us on.
00:04:43So, if you want to push boundaries, we should have a black lead character.
00:04:49Yeah, it's a great idea.
00:04:51Yeah, let's take it black.
00:04:53Can you have a black lead in the game? Has anyone done that?
00:04:56No. We will.
00:04:58Could we get Samuel L. Jackson?
00:05:00Yeah, I'm sure we could.
00:05:01You can get anyone.
00:05:02Look, film stars don't matter, all right? Forget film stars.
00:05:05This game is going to be something that goes beyond film.
00:05:07It does something film can't do.
00:05:09How?
00:05:09I don't know. That's why we're talking about it.
00:05:16Hello?
00:05:19Well, hello, Margaret. Of course I remember you. How can I help?
00:05:25Uh-huh.
00:05:30I see.
00:05:33Well, Margaret, let me stop you there.
00:05:35It sounds to me like the treatment you've had may well be medical malpractice, and, uh, gee, I'd love to
00:05:41help.
00:05:42But I don't think you should use me.
00:05:45I think you should speak to a lawyer who may be able to better represent you.
00:05:51Well, to be frank, I've become a little toxic as a lawyer.
00:05:55I got Howard Stern a two-live-crew rap album banned for violating obscenity laws, and subsequently,
00:06:01no one wants to be represented by a kooky, moral campaigner.
00:06:06You should try my friend Frank Simpson.
00:06:09He's a good man.
00:06:10A fine advocate.
00:06:14Why do I do it?
00:06:16What can I say?
00:06:19Because I'm Batman.
00:06:22Because for some reason, God rose this asshole up to do good.
00:06:28Well, I appreciate the call.
00:06:31All right.
00:06:32Good night.
00:06:33Good night.
00:07:03We've just made the biggest selling game in history that we've lined up a usual suspect for a cheeseball competition.
00:07:09So, if you want to be a rock star, you've got to play the game.
00:07:12Right, now, listen up.
00:07:14Last year's record was 6v8.
00:07:16Anyone who beats that, you get the holiday, and I'll sign the triple heart bypass, all right?
00:07:20Eat the cheese.
00:07:21Don't get votes.
00:07:22Oh, no, Roger, don't.
00:07:25Because that is disgusting.
00:07:26That's carnage.
00:07:26That's a cheese fondue right there.
00:07:28What?
00:07:29What is it?
00:07:31I bought you something.
00:07:36It is the first TTS convertible in America.
00:07:40For me?
00:07:41It's a thank you.
00:07:43For everything you've done for Rockstar.
00:07:46And for me.
00:07:51Hey, you've been too busy to ever drive it, of course.
00:07:54Yeah, of course.
00:07:58Look.
00:08:00Vice City is good.
00:08:02Right?
00:08:03Really good.
00:08:03But you and I know we are only just scratching the surface of what these games can do now.
00:08:08And for the next one, I want to create a completely real world.
00:08:11Right?
00:08:12For grown-ups.
00:08:12Where you don't have to become a penguin or some shitty hairy elf.
00:08:17When people talk about video games the way they talk about films and music.
00:08:20Jamie.
00:08:22That's when we've done it.
00:08:26Enjoy that.
00:08:31The blue Pontiac.
00:08:34Registered stolen this evening at 2300 hours.
00:08:38License plate 0093.
00:08:41Registered to a Mr. Evelyn.
00:09:08What is your full name?
00:09:10Please, Devin.
00:09:12I need your full name, son.
00:09:18Devin Darnell Moore.
00:09:21Darnell Moore.
00:09:23Daddy birth.
00:09:27Look, son.
00:09:29You're in a lot of trouble.
00:09:31You need to start helping.
00:09:37Okay.
00:09:38Let's do your friend to friends.
00:09:40I need your friend.
00:09:44I need some help.
00:10:00I need some help.
00:10:01You don't do.
00:10:02Get a Se Grover.
00:10:04Ascombe.
00:10:05You're in the office.
00:10:07I need your friend.rado
00:10:07need your friend to follow me. Cheers.
00:10:09Hey Max.
00:10:09Now we need
00:10:10your friend. So let's
00:10:10Jane! Jane! Jane!
00:10:40Jane! Jane!
00:11:10Jane, Jane! Jane! Jane! Jane! Jane! Jane!
00:11:20Honey, there's a muffin for you here.
00:11:28We'll leave in five minutes, okay?
00:11:29Okay.
00:11:40I've got lacrosse tonight, Dad.
00:11:42Can you pick me up at seven?
00:11:44What's that?
00:11:45Lacrosse.
00:11:46Tonight.
00:11:55Fayette, Alabama, please.
00:11:56Can I get the number of the Fayette police station?
00:11:59You know how in traditional role-playing games
00:12:02you can train yourself to be a better shitty swordsman
00:12:04or do better shitty little goblin spells?
00:12:07Well, our hero, Carl, should be able to improve himself too.
00:12:10Like, to change.
00:12:11So you can make him thinner or fatter or sexier or stronger.
00:12:14You know, you can change him.
00:12:15Morning, Jamie.
00:12:16People have been able to do that in RPGs for a while.
00:12:19Yeah, but it's always to help you complete some sort of narrow mission.
00:12:23Right?
00:12:23Now we're going to offer the players the chance to adapt themselves as they go.
00:12:26Right?
00:12:27They shape themselves not because they need to for the game just because they want to.
00:12:31Right?
00:12:31So if you want Carl to get a haircut, you can.
00:12:33If you want him to go and get new threads, you just go and buy them.
00:12:36And then doing these things will change how other characters relate to you in the game.
00:12:39But if it's not linked to missions, won't all that feel a bit irrelevant and super nerdy?
00:12:43No, I don't think so.
00:12:45I think it will make people feel incredibly emotionally linked to Carl.
00:12:48You are the hero.
00:12:49The hero is you.
00:12:51Okay?
00:12:52Terry, if you could send Carl to get a haircut, go and get dreads.
00:12:56Would that not feel good?
00:12:57Oh, fucking hell.
00:12:59Jen, you want a tattoo?
00:13:00Via Carl, you can go and get one.
00:13:02Jamie, you want a six pack?
00:13:03You can get one.
00:13:05Got one.
00:13:05Dan, you want to have sex?
00:13:07Via Carl, finally you can.
00:13:10If you make Carl attractive enough, somebody should have sex with him.
00:13:14This is beyond what film can do.
00:13:16Guys, we're going to create the first truly adaptable hero across any art form.
00:13:42David, my name is Jack Thompson.
00:13:44I'm an attorney at law based in Miami.
00:13:48I'm very sorry about the situation you're in.
00:13:51I'd like to understand how it happened.
00:13:53Why it happened.
00:13:57When they arrested you in Mississippi, apparently you said,
00:14:00Life is like a video game.
00:14:02You've got to die sometime.
00:14:04Is that what you said?
00:14:14Who are you?
00:14:16He doesn't know why he did it.
00:14:18He said it was like a flashback, like he was playing the game.
00:14:23He's just a sweet, stupid, lost kid.
00:14:26He got arrested and he panicked.
00:14:29I just don't believe he would have killed those men
00:14:32if he hadn't spent hours a day practicing doing exactly the same thing in that cop killer game.
00:14:37You don't know it was the game made him act that way.
00:14:39But it was the game.
00:14:41He is still guilty of murder.
00:14:43Yes, he is.
00:14:45And nothing will change that.
00:14:47Come on, you're a lawyer.
00:14:49I think the people that make these games are partly responsible.
00:14:53I mean, think about it.
00:14:56They're drenching our children in depravity and violence, training our kids to be killers and making money out of it.
00:15:03They make an entertainment that normalizes horrendous violence.
00:15:07It makes me sick.
00:15:12You're going to fight them?
00:15:14You don't think I should?
00:15:16I feel compelled to.
00:15:19We're raising a generation of kids steeped in sex and violence and no one's doing anything about it.
00:15:25I think this is what's required of me.
00:15:40This is vibe.
00:15:43Very chewy.
00:15:46Yeah, this is what I'm talking about.
00:15:48Get video of every street around here, Jane.
00:15:51Yeah, is it safe?
00:15:52Yeah, get filming. It's fine.
00:15:56Hiya.
00:15:56Looking real good.
00:15:58I wish you get the programmers down here too, so they can see it for themselves.
00:16:01Iterate on it.
00:16:02Don't put the smack down on me, boy.
00:16:03The streets speak to you.
00:16:04Woo!
00:16:07Yeah, I feel very English.
00:16:09You don't look it.
00:16:10You look like a bad shit mother.
00:16:14Know what I'm saying?
00:16:16Are we hoping to see a drive-by?
00:16:19Yeah, do you mind if I don't film that?
00:16:20We should get the programmers firing some guns too, so they know how they sound and feel.
00:16:43Who are you?
00:16:44Hey, my man, don't sweat.
00:16:45These are English fellows I'm showing around.
00:16:50Why you got that rip in your jeans, boy?
00:16:53That a crip thing?
00:16:54Is it?
00:16:55I'm not a crip, I promise you.
00:16:56Be cool. These are English boys.
00:16:57Do not tell me to be cool, nigga!
00:17:00I'll decide when I'ma be cool. Who are you?
00:17:03I'm DJ Dog from South Park, man.
00:17:05These fellas are just here doing research on a game.
00:17:07They make Grand Theft Auto.
00:17:12Y'all make GTA.
00:17:17Y'all some rock stars.
00:17:19Yo, I love that game.
00:17:21I'm playing for hours.
00:17:23Yo, tell them I'm playing for hours.
00:17:24Don't I play for hours?
00:17:25Yeah, man.
00:17:25Yo.
00:17:27Y'all wanna make a game around here?
00:17:28Yeah, yeah. A game that's set here.
00:17:30Maybe you can help us.
00:17:30Like, can I be in it?
00:17:32Like, I'm a performer, man.
00:17:33I got my own record label.
00:17:34And I'm an actor.
00:17:35Oh, yeah?
00:17:36What's your name?
00:17:37And where'd you get your jewellery?
00:17:39I'll show you.
00:17:39Okay.
00:17:40Let's go.
00:17:47Carl's got this girl he's dating in the game.
00:17:49Denise, he said.
00:17:50Denise.
00:17:51Right.
00:17:5221-11.
00:17:54Next, gangster.
00:17:55But you should be able to take her on different dates.
00:17:57You know, do stuff that affects the relationship
00:17:58and how she behaves to you.
00:18:00Like in real life.
00:18:00And then how's her?
00:18:02They'll take you down.
00:18:03They'll be able to take her to bars or out driving.
00:18:05Buy her flowers.
00:18:06Can you take her on a drive-by?
00:18:08Some girls would love that.
00:18:10What was that, Jamie?
00:18:11And I want a proper sex scene this time round.
00:18:13But a full-on sex scene.
00:18:15If you treat Denise right, she'll have sex with you.
00:18:16It's only fair.
00:18:17You can't put a sex scene in a game, Sam.
00:18:19Yes, you can.
00:18:20Why not?
00:18:21Sex is a part of life.
00:18:22Doms and music tackle sex all the time.
00:18:24Why can't we?
00:18:272-0.
00:18:28Wanker.
00:18:51Oh, Ray, sir, I'm late.
00:18:52Not a hell of a time finding the place.
00:18:54No problem.
00:18:55No problem.
00:18:55Go over here.
00:18:56My friend Ray here is an excellent trial lawyer.
00:18:59He believes as strongly as I do that Rockstar and Sony are to some degree responsible for
00:19:05the deaths of your loved ones.
00:19:07You believe what Devin did was an impulsive act, made more likely due to the fact that
00:19:12he played a violent video game for weeks beforehand.
00:19:15And we're gathering a handful of expert witnesses to testify in court that there is a clear
00:19:21link between teenagers playing violent games and violent behavior.
00:19:27You say the game's responsible for his actions.
00:19:30You've got to let Devin off the hook, won't he?
00:19:33I don't know about the others here, but I want that boy to face up with what he did.
00:19:37I want him on death row.
00:19:41We don't believe what Devin did was premeditated.
00:19:44You don't know it wasn't?
00:19:46No, I don't.
00:19:47I'm not saying he's not responsible for what he did.
00:19:50He is, and he will face that in a criminal court.
00:19:53Our civil case isn't designed to get him off, but we want the makers of these obscene games
00:19:59to take some responsibility and help stop other police officers from being killed in
00:20:03the same way that James and Arnold and Ace were.
00:20:09Don't you want that too?
00:20:11And we want you to have some form of compensation for your loss.
00:20:16Do you think you can win?
00:20:18We will win, I promise you, because I will fight this as hard as I've ever fought anything.
00:20:22And because I believe what Martin Luther King said.
00:20:26The arc of history is long, but it bends towards justice.
00:20:34This lawsuit will put the video game industry on trial.
00:20:38Strickland versus Sony, the makers of PlayStation and Rockstar Games, the makers of Grand Theft Auto,
00:20:43is a lawsuit designed to make every police officer in America safer.
00:20:48How much are you seeking damages?
00:20:50600 million for the families.
00:20:52Isn't that excessive?
00:20:54I don't think so.
00:20:56We're gonna destroy Rockstar Games, you can count on that.
00:21:03Listen, there's some born-again Christian nutbag lawyer in Florida bringing a civil case against us
00:21:09for that supposed copycat killing in Alabama.
00:21:12What's what Devon Moore did?
00:21:17I'll take too worried about it?
00:21:19No.
00:21:19It's America.
00:21:20It's litigation crazy.
00:21:23They've put their laws on it, you don't have to do anything.
00:21:25But you should be aware of it, that's all.
00:21:28Okay.
00:21:30I'm aware.
00:21:32Okay.
00:21:33Good.
00:21:36You coming to play ping-pong?
00:21:38Sure.
00:21:40What's this lawyer's name?
00:21:41...and then 21.
00:21:43Okay, I'm here.
00:22:02How long have you been playing that game?
00:22:04Please.
00:22:07I didn't pick you up, I'm sorry.
00:22:09That's okay.
00:22:11It's not what it looks like.
00:22:12I just thought I'd better exactly understand what it is I'm objecting to.
00:22:17It's unbelievable.
00:22:19From the moment you start playing, it encourages you to hurt people and you start doing it.
00:22:23It's disturbing.
00:22:24I mean, how dare these people make this deprived garbage and force it on our children?
00:22:28Yes, Jack.
00:22:30It's a disgusting picture of America made by some Brits.
00:22:33I don't really wish ill on the people who make this filth.
00:23:01You are you.
00:23:12Perfect. Cheers, ma'am.
00:23:18What's that?
00:23:19T-shirt I bought. It's a list of all the pharmaceutical drugs
00:23:22found in Don Simpson's blood system when he died.
00:23:25He's not the greatest film producer ever, but that's James Cameron.
00:23:27Cameron's the director, not a producer.
00:23:29Simpson produced Top Gun, Bad Boys and Beverly Hills Cop.
00:23:33End of. Don't forget Flashdance.
00:23:35And it's not even just what he produced, it's how he produced it.
00:23:38Unashamed to be populist and entertaining.
00:23:41Never compromised. He basically invented the action comedy.
00:23:43Hey, Sam, you guys have come up with a whole bunch of...
00:23:45Hi, Jamie, have you spoken to JP about our new game engine yet?
00:23:48Well, no, I haven't been to San Diego yet.
00:23:50Well, can you get on that, please?
00:23:51I don't want to have to lease a game engine anymore.
00:23:53I want us to have our own one.
00:23:54And not just for GTA, for all our games.
00:23:57Okay.
00:24:03When you start dressing in Armani and Cowboy boots
00:24:06and taking hard drugs like Don there,
00:24:08we'll know what's been going on.
00:24:23So, we've created a new game engine to replace Renderware.
00:24:28We're calling it the Rockstar Advanced Game Engine.
00:24:32Rage.
00:24:33Okay, so, um, how are we going to show Sam what it can do?
00:24:36He wants to see something soon.
00:24:37Uh, we were thinking we could take some GTA scenes
00:24:40and show how the movement would be improved.
00:24:43Nah, he's going to want to see something new.
00:24:46Trying to build a new game engine
00:24:47is about producing an authenticity to a movement, right?
00:24:51Yeah.
00:24:57Do ping pong.
00:24:59Look, Sam loves table tennis.
00:25:00If you can show them how the ball will move in flight
00:25:03and get that right.
00:25:04Not shooting someone or driving a car.
00:25:08Ping pong.
00:25:11Okay.
00:25:12Look, is my taxi here?
00:25:13I've got to get to the airport.
00:25:14Uh, yeah, it's here.
00:25:16Uh, it would really help if we could have some more people, Jamie.
00:25:19Twenty guys from here have been put on GTA.
00:25:21Yeah, I know. It's the same everywhere.
00:25:23Everyone's on GTA now until it's released.
00:25:24It's the way it is.
00:25:26Don't ask me where the next game's going to come from.
00:25:47What surprised us when we first showed violent material to children
00:25:51was how much brain activity it produces here,
00:25:54an area called a posterior cingulate.
00:25:57MRI research with veterans and victims of violent crime
00:26:00has shown that this is an area of the brain
00:26:02where we store distressing or traumatic events for long-term memory.
00:26:06You're saying that the same area of the brain
00:26:08that processes traumatic stress in real life
00:26:12is also triggered by violent entertainment?
00:26:15Especially in teenagers,
00:26:16because their brains aren't fully formed yet.
00:26:19People don't know this, doctor.
00:26:21They should.
00:26:22And you can prove it.
00:26:24Would you be willing to testify to this in court?
00:26:27Of course.
00:26:28If necessary, the neurology is clear.
00:26:30Has anyone ever asked you to do that?
00:26:32No.
00:26:33Not yet.
00:26:39Your weapon's training is absolutely vital.
00:26:43Because, as an old gunny sergeant taught me,
00:26:46in combat, you don't rise to the occasion.
00:26:49You sink to the level of your training.
00:26:52The point is this.
00:26:53What we teach you in training
00:26:55will come out in combat without thought.
00:26:59And that is why your training
00:27:01needs to be the most accurate,
00:27:03the most authentic it can be.
00:27:16When we use these violent games to train soldiers,
00:27:18we call them combat simulators.
00:27:21And young kids use them.
00:27:22At home, they're murder simulators.
00:27:24You call these games murder simulators?
00:27:26The same thing is going on in both situations.
00:27:28You're training young people to kill.
00:27:29You're making killing
00:27:30a conditioned reflex stimulus response.
00:27:35Dave, would you be willing to say these things
00:27:37in an expert witness statement or in court?
00:27:39Sure.
00:27:40Everything is in my book.
00:27:41I'm willing to say in court.
00:27:44Right.
00:27:45What's coming from a man
00:27:46of your first-hand military experience
00:27:48will really have an impact on a jury?
00:27:50Well, I'm happy to help
00:27:51because I think that this
00:27:53is a serious social issue.
00:27:58So, can I travel you for an autograph?
00:28:02My pleasure.
00:28:09This sex scene in San Andreas
00:28:10has got to be good.
00:28:12It's not some Benny Hill bit.
00:28:13It's got to be something proper
00:28:15that can get people excited.
00:28:16Have you seen what they've animated yet?
00:28:18No, have you?
00:28:19No.
00:28:20No, they were looking at this scene
00:28:21where Carl goes around to see Denise.
00:28:24She invites him in for coffee.
00:28:25He goes in
00:28:26as full-blown sex.
00:28:30And a blowjob.
00:28:31Sounds great.
00:28:32When can we see it?
00:28:33It's going to be hard
00:28:33to get this stuff in, San Andreas.
00:28:34I know.
00:28:35No one's ever done a sex scene
00:28:37in a game before.
00:28:37I know, I know.
00:28:38But it's really important
00:28:39for the vibe of the game.
00:28:40And it has to be as good
00:28:41as the best sex scenes in movies.
00:28:44As good as...
00:28:45Last Tango.
00:28:46Angel Heart.
00:28:47Nine and a half weeks.
00:28:48As good as...
00:28:50The Top Gun sex scene.
00:28:52Fucking Tom Cruise
00:28:53and Kelly McWatson.
00:28:54He's joking.
00:28:55Anyway,
00:28:56everyone's favourite sex scene
00:28:57from Top Gun
00:28:58is the one where
00:28:58all the men play
00:28:59topless volleyball.
00:29:01Whatever.
00:29:02Just make it fucking good.
00:29:33Jack.
00:29:35Jack.
00:29:36Oh, hello, Sally.
00:29:37How are you?
00:29:38I hear you're campaigning
00:29:40against the people
00:29:40who make those violent video games.
00:29:42That's right, I am.
00:29:43Good for you.
00:29:44Go get them, Jack.
00:29:45They're fucking with our kids.
00:29:47Fuck these people.
00:29:49Fuck them.
00:29:51Well, I certainly intend to.
00:29:54Can I make a donation?
00:29:56No.
00:29:56No need.
00:29:57Just send us your prayers.
00:29:59I'll be on 60 Minutes tonight.
00:30:02I'll watch you.
00:30:03I'll pray for you.
00:30:04And I'll send them some hate mail.
00:30:09God bless you.
00:30:11Shooting, stealing,
00:30:12killing innocent people,
00:30:13Grand Theft Auto
00:30:14has always been controversial
00:30:16and it's now the subject
00:30:17of a civil lawsuit.
00:30:19Florida attorney Jack Thompson
00:30:20is bringing the case
00:30:21against the makers of GTA.
00:30:24You think that playing
00:30:24Grand Theft Auto
00:30:25may more carry out
00:30:26these killings?
00:30:28Well, there's plenty of...
00:30:29Turn your TV on.
00:30:30That guy from Florida
00:30:30is on the news.
00:30:31Yeah, we're watching it.
00:30:32He's responsible for what he did.
00:30:34We think that the...
00:30:35This Jack Thompson
00:30:36seems to be everywhere.
00:30:37He's been sending loads
00:30:38of aggressive emails
00:30:39to take to management, okay?
00:30:40If he sends any to us,
00:30:42we've been instructed
00:30:42not to reply.
00:30:43Forward them straight to me
00:30:44or Colby,
00:30:45she'll send them to the lawyers.
00:30:46I believe that if it wasn't
00:30:47for that video game,
00:30:49Devin Moore wouldn't
00:30:49have killed those cops.
00:30:51Rockstar Games gave him
00:30:52a cranial menu
00:30:53that popped up
00:30:54and offered him the option
00:30:55to kill the police officers,
00:30:57shoot them in the head
00:30:58and flee in a police car.
00:30:59What we're saying
00:31:00is that Devin Moore
00:31:01in effect was trained
00:31:02to do what he did.
00:31:03He bought a murder simulator
00:31:05and he played it
00:31:06for hundreds of hours.
00:31:07It's primarily
00:31:08a cop-killing game.
00:31:09That's just fucking whack.
00:31:10I'll call you later, Terry.
00:31:12A game does not
00:31:13make someone a criminal.
00:31:14If you haven't played Vice,
00:31:15you'd have played something else.
00:31:16If it's the cop-killing
00:31:17in the game that's the problem,
00:31:18maybe we should tone it down
00:31:19for San Andreas.
00:31:21A bit.
00:31:21No way, Jamie.
00:31:22This is a free country.
00:31:23We're allowed to make
00:31:24the game we want to make.
00:31:25We can't go around
00:31:25curtailing people's
00:31:26artistic freedoms
00:31:27because of one lunatic.
00:31:29If you tell the tales,
00:31:30you define the culture.
00:31:32Rockstar Games
00:31:33are telling tales
00:31:34full of violence
00:31:35and depravity.
00:31:35Parents have no idea
00:31:36what their kids are playing.
00:31:38That's the problem.
00:31:39Yeah, but that's not awful.
00:31:40What is it?
00:31:40It's theirs.
00:31:41They don't understand games
00:31:43and they want to blame
00:31:43someone for these deaths.
00:31:44But rather than blame
00:31:45this kid's parents
00:31:46or failed education
00:31:47or zero job prospects,
00:31:49this man wants to blame us.
00:31:50I'm not changing
00:31:51a single thing about GTA.
00:31:53Okay, I agree.
00:31:54I just don't think
00:31:54any of us like being accused
00:31:55of making a murder simulator.
00:31:57Well, that's good
00:31:57because we don't.
00:31:58We make entertainment.
00:31:59Why do you want to make a game
00:32:01that suggests,
00:32:02even for a moment,
00:32:03that it's okay
00:32:04to kill police officers?
00:32:06Why do you want to do that?
00:32:10As he fled,
00:32:12Moore stole a bunch of car keys.
00:32:14He climbed into a police car
00:32:15out front and hit the road.
00:32:17It was over within seconds.
00:32:19Inside, three people
00:32:21had been murdered.
00:32:22Well, yeah,
00:32:22I'll be in Baton Rouge.
00:32:23I've got to debate
00:32:24at Louisiana Law School
00:32:25against a bunch of
00:32:26nightmare Southern liberals.
00:32:28And Friday,
00:32:29I'm set up to be
00:32:29on the Today Show again.
00:32:30I got a client dinner
00:32:31that night.
00:32:32Mm-hmm.
00:32:35Hello?
00:32:36I'm gonna kill you fuckers.
00:32:40What is it?
00:32:45Come on,
00:32:46it's a game boy.
00:32:48Go,
00:32:49we're gonna fuck off.
00:32:52I'll kill you.
00:32:53Put the shit away.
00:32:56Oh, there's a game.
00:32:58Oh, there's a game.
00:32:59Oh, there's a game.
00:32:59Oh, there's a game.
00:33:00Oh, there's a game.
00:33:00Oh, there's a game.
00:33:23It's just kids being stupid.
00:33:25Oh, I know.
00:33:27People who really
00:33:28want to kill you,
00:33:28they don't phone you up
00:33:29and warn you.
00:33:30They just do it.
00:33:31Yes, I know.
00:33:33You can't let things
00:33:34like this stop us.
00:33:35What sort of message
00:33:37would that send?
00:33:38I agree, Jack.
00:33:40How about,
00:33:42as you burn the grass,
00:33:43you get high,
00:33:44so it becomes harder to do.
00:33:46The controls get harder.
00:33:47That's really funny.
00:33:49Jamie,
00:33:50how was Vienna?
00:33:51Good.
00:33:52Tiring.
00:33:53I need you to go to Edinburgh
00:33:55tomorrow to talk to the animators
00:33:56of the truth missions,
00:33:57okay?
00:33:57They need to be better.
00:33:58I was supposed to have this weekend off.
00:34:00I've got that stag party, remember?
00:34:01Well, you're just going to have to skip it.
00:34:03Yeah, it's crunch time.
00:34:04I need people to dig deep.
00:34:05That's how I dig.
00:34:07We're six months
00:34:07of delivering this game now
00:34:08and whole chunks of it
00:34:09are still shit and boring.
00:34:10There's animation glitches
00:34:11in the street scenes still.
00:34:12The run-cap's terrible.
00:34:13Terry,
00:34:14we need to hire more QA people.
00:34:16Take-Two won't let you
00:34:17hire anyone else.
00:34:18At this rate,
00:34:18the game's going to be
00:34:19six months later
00:34:20than we said it would be
00:34:21when we said it would be
00:34:21six months late.
00:34:22Well, I'm not going to release
00:34:23a shit product into the world, guys.
00:34:25I'm sorry about that.
00:34:26If we can't hire more people, fine.
00:34:27We'll just have to
00:34:28take people off
00:34:29Manhunt and Warriors.
00:34:30Jamie,
00:34:30go to Edinburgh,
00:34:31then go to Toronto
00:34:32and get people working on GTA.
00:34:34Also, I've just heard
00:34:35there are 63 tracks
00:34:36you still haven't licensed.
00:34:37I'm on it.
00:34:38They take time.
00:34:39You gave us 160 to do.
00:34:41Oh, and by the way,
00:34:42James Brown's publisher
00:34:43said they definitely
00:34:44won't let us use payback.
00:34:45Go back to them.
00:34:46Persuade them.
00:34:46You're really good at that
00:34:47and that's a really important
00:34:48track for the game.
00:34:51Come on, mate.
00:34:52You missed a wolf.
00:35:19Hi, honey.
00:35:20Good game?
00:35:22Uh-huh.
00:35:25Hey, you okay?
00:35:29Slow down.
00:35:31What's the matter?
00:35:33Someone took my lacrosse stick,
00:35:34I think.
00:35:35What do you mean, took?
00:35:37On purpose?
00:35:38I don't know.
00:35:40Maybe I lost it.
00:35:41It doesn't matter.
00:35:42Hey, what's going on?
00:35:46Everything okay at school?
00:35:49Yeah.
00:35:50You'd tell me if there was
00:35:51something wrong, wouldn't you?
00:35:54Look, I know you think
00:35:55these games hurt people, Dad.
00:35:57But, you know,
00:35:58not every kid's about
00:35:59to pull a con line, Dad.
00:36:00You know?
00:36:10What's wrong?
00:36:12He's having a tough time.
00:36:17This is all my fault.
00:36:19No, it's not.
00:36:20You'll be fine.
00:36:22I won't let him be bullied.
00:36:26I'll go to the school.
00:36:29I'll talk to the kids.
00:36:31Do a convocation.
00:36:33Is that a good idea?
00:36:35I don't want to make it worse.
00:36:36I won't.
00:36:38I'll make them understand.
00:36:48Those sunglasses that were gobbles.
00:36:51This one's perfect.
00:36:52That's good.
00:36:54Okay.
00:36:56What?
00:36:59We've been looking at
00:37:00how we can incorporate
00:37:01the sexual content you want
00:37:02in San Andreas
00:37:02without hurting sales.
00:37:05Okay.
00:37:09It's a question of how far
00:37:10we can push the creative envelope
00:37:11in this area
00:37:12and still get a mature rating.
00:37:14If we get an adults-only rating,
00:37:16about 80% of shops
00:37:18and distributors in the U.S.,
00:37:19particularly Walmart,
00:37:21won't stock the game.
00:37:22I've always been clear about this.
00:37:23This stuff is not gratuitous.
00:37:25It's done within context
00:37:26and it's been linked to the story.
00:37:27What's acceptable is sexual content
00:37:28is different in different countries.
00:37:30I can send you a full list
00:37:31of the various do's and don'ts.
00:37:33It will depress you.
00:37:34Broadly, male nudity is acceptable
00:37:35as long as the penis is an erect.
00:37:37No erect cocks.
00:37:38That's right.
00:37:38The U.S. is the most censored country by miles.
00:37:41No penises, no vaginas, no nipples.
00:37:44So that scene you've got animated
00:37:45of Carl having sex with Denise,
00:37:46that will get us an instant adults-only label here
00:37:49and need to remove it.
00:37:50That's ridiculous.
00:37:50We don't all live in a virtual Utah.
00:37:52I know.
00:37:53Look, I wish we could include that stuff,
00:37:55but it's not feasible.
00:37:56What's wrong with this country?
00:37:57I can walk down the road
00:37:59and get an Uzi if I want to.
00:38:00They're sending kids off to kill people in Iraq
00:38:01and heaven for fucking bid
00:38:02anyone sees a woman's nipple.
00:38:05It's America.
00:38:06The Jack Thompsons of this world won't have it.
00:38:08Well, I don't care what he thinks.
00:38:09I'm not going to bend to this.
00:38:10Sex is a perfectly acceptable thing
00:38:12to having a piece of adult entertainment
00:38:14and we are not pushing boundaries without it.
00:38:17Maybe we should just be an AO game.
00:38:19We're a game for adults.
00:38:20Like, fine, let's just be that.
00:38:22That would be retail suicide.
00:38:23Who cares?
00:38:24So we sell half of what we hoped.
00:38:25At least we get to make our game.
00:38:27I'm not having the content of my game
00:38:28dictated to me by a bunch of moronic shopkeepers.
00:38:33Don Simpson wouldn't settle for it, would he?
00:38:37Then what would he do?
00:38:38He'd hire an aircraft carrier,
00:38:40fill it with prostitutes,
00:38:41take 15 different types of Class A drugs
00:38:43and then, I think,
00:38:45he'd accept the power of the marketplace.
00:38:54Fine, take the scene out.
00:38:58There's no time.
00:38:59The game's due.
00:39:00Happy?
00:39:06What's in the world?
00:39:09Did I lose?
00:39:10Whew.
00:39:11Blank Rome has been confirmed
00:39:12as the defense counsel for Rockstar and Take-Two.
00:39:15That is a big, serious law firm.
00:39:17They're going to fight you every step of the way.
00:39:19Good.
00:39:20You know what?
00:39:21I want this fight.
00:39:22Believe me, Jack.
00:39:23They will look into every corner of your life,
00:39:25of our lives,
00:39:26to try and discredit you.
00:39:28Let them.
00:39:29I've got nothing to hide.
00:39:30You ever smoked dope at college?
00:39:32Fake a tax receipt?
00:39:33Fail to pay a fine?
00:39:35They'll try and find out.
00:39:36They'll try and pathologize your behavior.
00:39:39Make you seem like a fanatic.
00:39:40Forget what I've done.
00:39:43I'm going to do my best to make their lives a living hell.
00:39:46No, don't try and attack them.
00:39:47They are not the target, are they?
00:39:50The target is the video games industry.
00:39:53Keep your eye on the target, Jack, huh?
00:39:56Right.
00:39:58Here's Villagios.
00:39:59Let's pray for a parking space.
00:40:03You know this Jack Thompson guy?
00:40:05What about him?
00:40:06You know he got Howard Stern thrown off the air?
00:40:08Yeah?
00:40:08He got a two live crew out in the band,
00:40:10and now he's having a go at us.
00:40:11Oh, Devin Morkest.
00:40:13They're just using us as scapegoats.
00:40:15These people have an issue with the entire gaming industry.
00:40:19Find any excuse?
00:40:20Yeah, but this guy wins.
00:40:22He's relentless, and he's clearly obsessive.
00:40:25He won against a rat-banned, that's all.
00:40:26You're not taking this seriously enough.
00:40:27Listen, we've got Blank Rome, yeah?
00:40:30A seriously heavyweight law firm.
00:40:32He won't know what's hitting.
00:40:33They say Thompson's his own worst enemy.
00:40:36He's a big mouth.
00:40:37Can't help himself.
00:40:41Your client and what it does
00:40:44is indefensible.
00:40:47You disgrace us as lawyers.
00:40:50Shame on you.
00:40:53You okay?
00:40:55Doing battle, honey.
00:40:56Doing battle.
00:41:00Good night.
00:41:08These men have done their level best
00:41:11to promote what John Paul II called
00:41:14a culture of death
00:41:17to an entire generation of American children.
00:41:21Make this filth for these people.
00:41:25Drenching their children
00:41:26with violence
00:41:27and gravity.
00:41:38Absolutely, the dumbest thing you ever did
00:41:41was hire Blank Rome
00:41:43as your law firm.
00:41:55John, Dave, thanks so much for coming, Olive.
00:41:58When the judge hears your expert testimonies,
00:42:01there'll be no way you can dispute
00:42:02the influence of Grand Theft Dotto
00:42:03on Devin's case.
00:42:12Who are they?
00:42:13Blank Rome.
00:42:14Rockstar's lawyers.
00:42:28Jack, a word.
00:42:32800.
00:42:33800 pages from Blank Rome
00:42:35describing all your campaign,
00:42:37despite the case being active,
00:42:38including press releases
00:42:40that you have written about this case
00:42:41before it's even been heard.
00:42:43Ray, they want me off the case.
00:42:45They're scared of me.
00:42:46You've been on the Today Show
00:42:48seven times talking about this.
00:42:51Eight times.
00:42:52And Fox News.
00:42:53You know it's not allowed.
00:42:55You're killing our case, Jack,
00:42:57before it's even started.
00:42:59Did you write to the CEO of Take Two
00:43:01telling him that you're gonna take him
00:43:03for every penny that he has?
00:43:05Yes, I did, and I don't regret it.
00:43:07Did you say in the press
00:43:09that Sony dumping GTA on American kids
00:43:11was effectively Pearl Harbor 2?
00:43:24All of these communications
00:43:26are fundamental violations
00:43:27of bar ethical codes.
00:43:29If you think I'm gonna allow
00:43:30this sort of grandstanding
00:43:32in my courtroom,
00:43:32you are absolutely wrong.
00:43:34Okay, I understand your position,
00:43:36Your Honor.
00:43:37That's become very clear.
00:43:38Myself and Mr. Reiser
00:43:40have discussed that,
00:43:41and I'm happy to step down.
00:43:43My colleague can prosecute it
00:43:45very ably without my assistance.
00:43:48It's not up to you
00:43:49whether you take part or not.
00:43:50It's up to me.
00:43:51And given your manner
00:43:53and your numerous violations
00:43:54of our ethics,
00:43:55you're right.
00:43:56You will not be taking part.
00:44:04I'll go back here.
00:44:06I'm going to keep this.
00:44:08I need your arms.
00:44:10I need your arms.
00:44:12Okay.
00:44:14Go around your face.
00:44:16I'm going to get there.
00:44:19Great, man.
00:44:20Look at a nice print.
00:44:21Nice print.
00:44:30Mom, is Dad okay?
00:44:35I mean, I told one of the moms at school today he was Elliot Ness.
00:44:42He's got his big civil case. You know how he gets.
00:44:47He's doing what the Lord wants him to.
00:44:50He said he's going to come to the school and talk about violence and video games.
00:44:55That was bothering you. Don't worry, honey.
00:44:58Your dad is a brilliant public speaker. He won't embarrass you.
00:45:03You should be pleased you've got a dad who's prepared to do these things.
00:45:19All rise.
00:45:29Be seated.
00:45:35The question before this court is whether Devon Moore's crimes are the result of his use of Grand Theft Auto.
00:45:42And despite their expertise and the interesting points they raise, since the plainest experts have acknowledged that they have never
00:45:49met Devon Moore and have no personal knowledge of his specific crimes, I cannot consider their evidence.
00:45:59Since they have never met Devon, they cannot know whether he engaged in scripted behavior.
00:46:04In fact, I'm entirely unpersuaded he carried out his violent actions because he'd been programmed by a video game.
00:46:11Therefore, summary judgment is granted in favor of the defendants. Case dismissed.
00:46:18That's outrageous.
00:46:37Jack? Jack? Jack! Jack!
00:46:40Nice job, guys. You must be very pleased with yourselves.
00:46:44Mr. Thompson, uh, you should be aware that we're gonna ask the Florida Bar to look at your behavior in
00:46:51this case for your repeated professional misconduct.
00:46:56Guys, I'm not the one breaking the law. Your clients are. Every time they sell one of those violent evil
00:47:02games to a child. Excuse me.
00:47:13Dan? They chucked it out.
00:47:16Where? They chucked what out?
00:47:17What do you think? The Thompson civil case. The judge threw it out. Blank Rome. Did us proud.
00:47:22So it's over?
00:47:23Yeah, it's over.
00:47:26It's ridiculous to blame those murders on the games anyway.
00:47:29Forget it. Listen. San Andreas is due. Clear your head. Finish the game.
00:47:34.
00:47:36.
00:49:16So how's life in Westchester, Pat?
00:49:19Great.
00:49:20You must come up sometime.
00:49:21Yeah, I must.
00:49:22I'd like that.
00:49:25So, here you are, Pat.
00:49:28The first official copy of Grand Theft Auto San Andreas.
00:49:32Two years of work.
00:49:34Our biggest and best game ever, I think.
00:49:40I'm sure it'll be a massive hit for you.
00:49:43Anything we need to know about from a ratings board perspective?
00:49:46Should be another mature rating.
00:49:48Good.
00:49:49Yeah, Zooks.
00:49:51Man, have you played GTA San Andreas yet?
00:49:54It is unbelievable how much cool stuff there is to do in this game.
00:49:57Driving, gambling, dancing, killing people.
00:50:00You can turn Carl into whatever kind of badass hero you want him to be.
00:50:04Change his clothes, change his weapons.
00:50:06Get him fit.
00:50:06Get him fat.
00:50:07Make him whatever you want.
00:50:09Trust me.
00:50:10You're going to love him.
00:50:11Pow!
00:50:14Mm-hmm.
00:50:16Okay.
00:50:16Thanks, Ray.
00:50:17Appreciate you telling me right away.
00:50:23Blank Rome has submitted a motion to the Florida Bar Association to have me disbarred.
00:50:28They're claiming I tried to hide my previous disciplinary record, which is a lie.
00:50:32I disclosed every...
00:50:35Little bastards.
00:50:39Come back here.
00:50:42Come back here.
00:50:48Come back here.
00:50:50Come back.
00:50:51Come on, Cops.
00:50:52Come back.
00:50:58Do you want to make a report?
00:51:01Not unless it happens again.
00:51:02I'm sorry.
00:51:04Careful.
00:51:07You still think I did the right thing taking on these guys?
00:51:12Of course I do.
00:51:15But you don't want this.
00:51:18No.
00:51:22It just feels so degrading to have to engage with these people.
00:51:26Makes me angry.
00:51:28And that affects you.
00:51:31Don't worry about us.
00:51:34You're doing righteous work, Jack Thompson.
00:51:38If you judge a man by his enemies,
00:51:41you're a great man.
00:52:10What do you want from me, Lord?
00:52:12What do you want from me, Lord?
00:52:12What do you want from me fighting these people because it feels like death?
00:52:17It's so destructive to my soul and my family.
00:52:21I'm not sure how much longer I can endure it.
00:52:26If this is your will, Father, show me a sign.
00:52:32And stop me from hating them.
00:52:36Give me the strength to not hate them.
00:52:41Hey, fella!
00:52:43Move along, please!
00:53:05Terry!
00:53:07Have you seen the number of comments we're getting about the RPG in San Andreas?
00:53:11People love how they can adapt cars.
00:53:13Forget that.
00:53:14Have you seen how many units we've sold?
00:53:18That's amazing.
00:53:19It is amazing.
00:53:22Stop what you're doing, everybody!
00:53:24Ping-pong competition!
00:53:25Figures must be amazing because it does not get better than that.
00:53:44Point.
00:53:46Point.
00:53:47Point.
00:53:49Point.
00:53:51Point.
00:54:13Yeah, yeah, this is really big.
00:54:16I don't know if I'm 100% able to reach, but I'm going to go in the code and see
00:54:20what I can find.
00:54:21Maybe I can see some changes.
00:54:34The code is like an animation, but it doesn't fit in the game.
00:54:47The animations look like sex scenes.
00:54:51I'm going to see if I can see it better.
00:54:54Well, if it's a sex scene, then...
00:54:59Yeah, really cool, man.
00:55:09JP?
00:55:13I fucking love it.
00:55:16It's the best animated movement I've ever seen.
00:55:18Well done, fella. It's Ace.
00:55:23This should be our next game.
00:55:24Table tennis?
00:55:25Yeah.
00:55:26Redoing Pong?
00:55:27No, we'll do World Championship table tennis.
00:55:29We'll do the best, most exciting, most authentic table tennis game that's ever been made.
00:55:33All right.
00:55:39What?
00:55:45We're in credit. You should get paid for this.
00:55:50Come on, girl.
00:55:52How do they get a hold of this?
00:55:59No, don't answer that.
00:56:00No, I'm serious. This is going to get brutal.
00:56:05It's had thousands of hits and it's been up two hours.
00:56:07How the fuck did this get out there?
00:56:10Who put this out there?
00:56:13No, nobody answer your phones, okay?
00:56:17Jesus.
00:56:20You're incredible. You should get paid for this.
00:56:22They created this for an M-rated game?
00:56:26This is it, Ray.
00:56:28This just proves that Sam Hauser has absolutely no regard for the law or children's welfare.
00:56:36I prayed for something like this.
00:56:42Is this part of the game?
00:56:43You don't think so.
00:56:45If this scene was in the game, Rockstar would have highlighted it with us.
00:56:48You sure about that?
00:56:50Yes.
00:56:50So where did it come from?
00:56:51We're trying to find out.
00:56:52Yeah, well, we need to know.
00:56:53Because this kind of thing confirms everyone's worst fears about the gaming industry.
00:56:57This could undo years of lobbying.
00:57:00If Rockstar misled you, I want to know.
00:57:07What do you say to that?
00:57:10Your father has a hot coffee.
00:57:11He's right.
00:57:12He's right.
00:57:13He's right.
00:57:13He's right.
00:57:16He's right.
00:57:17You're right.
00:57:18You're right.
00:57:21Patrick.
00:57:24Er zat een sexie verstopt in the game.
00:57:26Ja, dat was stom om het online te zetten, maar ik had er geen idee van dat dit zou gebeuren.
00:57:34Haal de stekker er maar uit.
00:57:36Ja, haal de stekker er maar uit.
00:57:37Pat, I assure you that sex scene is not in the game.
00:57:42It's a third party modification made by some hacker in their bedroom and then put on YouTube.
00:57:47Well, it's had over 20,000 hits now.
00:57:49The integrity of our rating system depends on customers trusting our judgment.
00:57:53So we're going to investigate fully, okay?
00:57:55And if there's been a violation, we'll take appropriate action.
00:57:59Okay, Pat, but there hasn't been a violation.
00:58:02I'm telling you, it was the modders.
00:58:05It's hard that you've made the wheels.
00:58:08My way has nothing new to me.
00:58:10Why?
00:58:11All the N.O. that I've let you see, they're on the DVD.
00:58:13Now, uh, as Rockstar, they don't know them?
00:58:17Yeah, then they're locked.
00:58:18Have you ever done that?
00:58:19I can prove it.
00:58:20Okay, okay.
00:58:21We're confident that the ESLB investigation will uphold the correct rating of GTA San Andreas.
00:58:26Was the hot coffee code included on the games desk?
00:58:30The scene is the work of a group of hackers or modders who have gone to significant trouble to alter
00:58:34scenes in the official version,
00:58:35in violation of the user software agreement.
00:58:39Okay.
00:58:39You've got to be fucking kidding me.
00:58:41Whose idea was that?
00:58:42Shut up, Jamie.
00:58:42He usually knows what he's doing.
00:58:43Does he?
00:58:45We're blaming our biggest fans.
00:58:47Where's Sam?
00:58:48Coming back from Edinburgh.
00:59:00Shit.
00:59:05Terry!
00:59:07What were you fucking thinking?
00:59:09I'm trying to protect the company, Sam, while you were in Edinburgh.
00:59:13By blaming the modders.
00:59:15Sorry, but it's the most stupid PR decision I've heard of in my life.
00:59:19Sam, fuck you.
00:59:32They've sentenced Devin Moore to death by lethal injection.
00:59:37Yeah, he's a victim too.
00:59:42You want me to?
00:59:44I got it.
00:59:47Hello?
00:59:52Certainly.
00:59:54One moment, please.
00:59:56It's Hillary Clinton.
00:59:57For you.
01:00:02We're here from blank Rome to understand the situation as best we can.
01:00:07So we can advise your owners take two and yourselves, if necessary, on any legal action you may be likely
01:00:12to face as a result of the sub.
01:00:14The so-called hot coffee scene that's come to light.
01:00:17Sure.
01:00:18I'm very happy to help.
01:00:20Is this a sex scene in the game, as some people are saying?
01:00:22No, it's not.
01:00:23Therefore, Patrick Wildenborg, this Dutch hacker made it, he created it?
01:00:26No.
01:00:27No.
01:00:27So where did it come from?
01:00:29Well, it's a scene that we had created for the game, but then we didn't want to use.
01:00:33It's not in the game.
01:00:34It was removed.
01:00:39The scene would have prevented the game getting an M rating.
01:00:43Yeah, yeah, that's one reason, sure.
01:00:44But I also, I just didn't like it.
01:00:46You know, it didn't fit the vibe of the game.
01:00:48The rendering was shit.
01:00:50So, you know, I said, get rid of it.
01:00:53You said, get rid of it and it's not in the game.
01:00:56So how did Patrick Wildenborg come across it?
01:01:00Well, it's hidden in the code, so he hacked it.
01:01:04So it's in the code.
01:01:07Forgive me.
01:01:08The game is made up of code, isn't it, on the disc?
01:01:12Yes.
01:01:13So does it not therefore follow that if it's in the code, it's in the game?
01:01:17Well, no, it doesn't. It's a little more complicated than that, actually.
01:01:21Explain.
01:01:24The scene is in the code, but the players can't access it.
01:01:27But Wildenborg did.
01:01:28Well, he shouldn't have done it, should he?
01:01:29What he did was illegal.
01:01:31It breached the purchasers license agreement.
01:01:35It's not as simple as that.
01:01:37Whatever the end-user agreement may say,
01:01:40modders have a well-known history of adapting Grand Theft Auto.
01:01:44Don't they?
01:01:46Sorry, did somebody offer you a drink when you came in?
01:01:48Do you want a tea or coffee or anything?
01:01:49No, thank you.
01:01:52If you didn't want the sex scene in the game,
01:01:54why'd you leave it there in the code where hackers could find it?
01:01:57Why didn't you just remove it fully?
01:01:58Well, Michelle, because it is complicated.
01:02:01To remove something like that is hard.
01:02:03If you fiddle with the code, it can have a knock-on effect on a lot of things that are
01:02:06very hard to predict.
01:02:07We were in the run-up to delivery.
01:02:08It was too complicated for you to remove this prohibited sex scene from the game.
01:02:13How many people do you employ?
01:02:15You employ 983 people.
01:02:18Last year, your company made over 253 million dollars.
01:02:21But you're saying it was too complicated to remove a prohibited sex scene from the code of the game.
01:02:26Code that hackers are not only allowed to enter, but do so.
01:02:29Sometimes with Rockstar's blessing.
01:02:33So, Sam, is it not true that far from removing the sex scene,
01:02:36you deliberately left it in a place where you knew it was highly likely to be found?
01:02:40No.
01:02:41No.
01:02:42Okay, absolutely not.
01:02:47Jeez, I thought you guys were on my side.
01:02:51Let me assure you, if the Feds prosecute you for this,
01:02:55we're a picnic compared to what you'll face in court.
01:03:06Mr. Thompson.
01:03:08Yes.
01:03:09Hello.
01:03:09Good day.
01:03:10This way, please.
01:03:21Jack Thompson.
01:03:22Thank you so much for coming to see us.
01:03:24Thanks for asking me.
01:03:25Please.
01:03:29The Senator is very interested in what you've been saying in the media about violent video games.
01:03:34As a parent and a politician, Hillary's very concerned about these games that are being sold to our children.
01:03:39Well, I'm delighted to hear that.
01:03:41We may have different politics, but I think this is a bipartisan issue.
01:03:45In addition to the violence, these recent revelations about this so-called hot coffee sex scene perfectly demonstrate what little
01:03:53regard these game designers, these Brits, have for our federal laws or the welfare of our children.
01:04:00Yes, we are aware of that scene. The Senator is keen to have the House investigate the issue. But more
01:04:06broadly, what scientific evidence is there linking violent video games with violent behavior?
01:04:12There's lots of precise scientific evidence. I've been traveling around the country talking to experts, including neurologists from NIH.
01:04:19They've done CT scans of DNA.
01:04:21Hey, hey, ho, ho, rock stars gotta go!
01:04:24Hey, hey, ho, ho, rock stars gotta go!
01:04:28Hey, hey, ho, ho, rock stars gotta go!
01:04:31Hey, hey, ho, ho, rock stars gotta go!
01:04:34Hey, hey, ho, ho, rock stars gotta go!
01:04:37Hey, hey, ho, ho, rock stars gotta go!
01:04:41Hey, hey, ho, ho, rock stars gotta go!
01:04:52Hey, hey, ho, ho, rock stars gotta go!
01:04:55Hey, hey, ho, ho, rock stars gotta go!
01:04:56Hey, hey, ho, ho, rock stars gotta go!
01:04:57After a thorough investigation, we have concluded that sexually explicit material exists in a fully rendered form on the final
01:05:06disc of Grand Theft Auto Sanctuary.
01:05:09The existence of this undisclosed content has seriously undermined the credibility of the ESRB's rating.
01:05:19Yeah?
01:05:19Where are you? No one knows where you are.
01:05:21I'm heading upstate for a bit.
01:05:24So the ESRB have found us guilty.
01:05:26They've re-rated the game as adults only.
01:05:29Take two of pulling every disc out of every store in America at a cost of 25 million dollars.
01:05:34We need you back here, Sam.
01:05:56The Federal Trade Commission has been ordered to investigate Rockstar over hot coffee.
01:06:00That's good.
01:06:01Oh, it's better than good, honey.
01:06:03It's great.
01:06:04It'll bring a lot of unwanted heat on Rockstar.
01:06:07This is all because of the briefing I gave Hillary.
01:06:09Oh, your good friend Hillary, huh?
01:06:12Just goes to prove, if the Lord asks you to do something, you sure as hell better do it.
01:06:19Hello?
01:06:20Why are you such an asshole?
01:06:22Why am I an asshole?
01:06:24It's a hate call.
01:06:26Why do you think I'm an asshole?
01:06:31Are we gonna use this?
01:06:35What should we tell them?
01:06:38They're not right.
01:06:41Okay, what don't you like about it?
01:06:47Sam, are you alright?
01:07:00The House of Representatives have voted 355 to 21 to investigate hot coffee and whether
01:07:05we committed fraud.
01:07:06Fraud?
01:07:07What fraud?
01:07:08Misleading the ratings board.
01:07:09Misrepresenting the game.
01:07:10That's insane.
01:07:11We didn't commit fraud, so it would be fine.
01:07:14We can fight it.
01:07:15Why was that scene allowed to be left on the discs?
01:07:18I thought you ran this company.
01:07:20Oh, shut up, Terry.
01:07:20If something's wrong, somebody needs to point it out to me, don't they?
01:07:23Let's not turn this into a blame storm.
01:07:25Let's just work out how we get through this.
01:07:27Is this all due to this Jack Thompson guy?
01:07:29Blank Rome will advise us on how to deal with the Federal Trade Commission.
01:07:32Let's be cool-headed about this.
01:07:33It's a process.
01:07:35Can higher experts in Washington be guided through it?
01:07:37Will the feds call me in to give evidence?
01:07:39They can call any of us in.
01:07:43Somehow this has become personal.
01:07:46Somehow these people in Washington have become convinced that we are responsible for teenage
01:07:50sex and violence.
01:07:51It is ridiculous.
01:07:52If these scenes were in a film or a book, no one would even blink and now this beautiful
01:07:56game we made is only going to be remembered for this shit.
01:08:01I don't want anyone communicating by email anymore, okay?
01:08:03Nothing in writing.
01:08:05If we have any important meetings, from now on we take them outside on the street.
01:08:08Tell the whole office.
01:08:09They won't have bugged us.
01:08:10Well you don't know that mate.
01:08:11You don't know what these people are capable of.
01:08:24Jamie, who the fuck gave all our emails to the FTC?
01:08:28We had to.
01:08:29Sam, you can't refuse a request from the feds.
01:08:31If we get this wrong, they could take all of this Jamie, you know that.
01:08:34I need to talk to you.
01:08:35Let's go outside.
01:08:47Can I have one?
01:08:56I don't want you going to that gaming conference in Vegas next weekend alright?
01:09:00I don't want anyone going to any conferences.
01:09:04Okay.
01:09:05Those table tennis screenshots are shit.
01:09:08The crowd perspective is all wrong.
01:09:10The colours are too muted.
01:09:11What has JP been doing for the last two weeks?
01:09:13Well he's been waiting for you to feed back on them.
01:09:15Well here's my feedback.
01:09:16He's fired.
01:09:17Sam?
01:09:18No, seriously.
01:09:19Go to San Diego and fire him.
01:09:21That's twice now he sends screenshots.
01:09:22I wouldn't put up in a kid's classroom.
01:09:23Does he realise how fucking untalented he is?
01:09:25Does he wake up in the morning going, fuck I'm not that talented?
01:09:27Or is he oblivious to his own shitness?
01:09:30Yeah sure, I'll ask him that as I fire him.
01:09:37It's all Terry's faultless.
01:09:41Don't you think?
01:09:43Which bit?
01:09:43With that press release.
01:09:45It's because he's not a gamer.
01:09:46Not really.
01:09:47He doesn't understand the fans.
01:09:49Sam.
01:09:52It's late.
01:09:55Let's go home.
01:09:56I'll finish this.
01:09:58Go.
01:10:13Go.
01:11:01Hey, how's it going at the coalface?
01:11:10Hi, Jamie. Back from San Diego.
01:11:13Oh, no, this is my avatar. I'm actually having holiday on a tropical island.
01:11:21I just want to let you know, whatever happens, we'll always look after you, okay?
01:11:26You're a key part of the Rockstar family.
01:11:31Jen.
01:11:34Never occurred to me that you wouldn't.
01:11:36Good.
01:11:41Fuck.
01:11:43Leaving early, Terry. It's 11pm.
01:11:46Good.
01:11:48Good.
01:12:02Good.
01:12:06Good.
01:12:13Good.
01:12:15Good.
01:12:15Good.
01:12:22Good.
01:12:31Good.
01:12:35Good.
01:12:43Good.
01:12:44Good.
01:13:01Good.
01:13:03Good.
01:13:04Good.
01:13:04Good.
01:13:10Good.
01:13:12hard drive. Some of you may resent me for suggesting you stop playing violent video
01:13:18games. Fair enough. You have that right. Give me this. I don't blame you. I blame the big,
01:13:29isolating, money-driven games industry that wants you to think violence is cool. Because
01:13:35I think you all know, in reality, it's not. How's that? That's good, Dad. Yeah? I think
01:13:49that'll be good. Yeah. Thank you. I love you, son. At the FTC hearing, if you are found guilty
01:14:02of false representation, fraud, eventually you could be looking at a fine of many millions of
01:14:08dollars. It'll be the end of Rockstar Games if they even go halfway. Fine. I get it. I do.
01:14:14It'll be a grilling, and I'm going to deal with it in my own way. Okay? I'm going to explain
01:14:18to them
01:14:18exactly what it is we do at Rockstar and how we make games, because obviously they don't have a
01:14:22fucking clue. Okay. But please try and be humble and serious. And please wear a suit.
01:14:33I just want it to be over now.
01:14:39Where's Jamie? How should I know?
01:14:44Wait, is he away somewhere? He's not in San Diego or Edinburgh, is he?
01:14:50He wasn't in yesterday either.
01:15:07Dan?
01:15:08Who did he?
01:15:10Do you know where Jamie is? What? He's not been in for two days. Has he said anything to you?
01:15:14No, man.
01:15:16No, man.
01:15:17No, man.
01:15:43I'm sorry.
01:16:06I don't know.
01:16:17Hello?
01:16:37Hi.
01:16:40Hi.
01:16:47The Florida Bar Association wants to disbar me for unprofessional conduct.
01:16:52There's going to be a hearing.
01:16:53It's just the 31 charges that I've got to defend myself against.
01:17:01Did I underestimate Blank Rome?
01:17:05Oh, Jack.
01:17:06Oh, Jack.
01:17:27Oh, Jack.
01:17:28Oh, Jack.
01:17:44Oh, Jack.
01:17:48Oh, Jack.
01:17:56Okay, please.
01:17:57Thank you for coming, Mr. Hauser.
01:18:00We're here to ascertain exactly how it is that the so-called hot coffee sex scene ended up on the
01:18:06DVDs of San Andreas.
01:18:09I'm here to help in any way I can.
01:18:12We have all your email correspondence on this matter over the last three years.
01:18:22You like to use profane language in your emails, don't you, Mr. Hauser?
01:18:30Yeah, I'm very sorry about that.
01:18:33Mr. Thompson, I have reviewed over 2,000 pages of submitted transcripts that contend that you've abused the legal system
01:18:42by submitting numerous frivolous and inappropriate filings to court, that you've made false statements to tribunals, and that you've engaged
01:18:49in incidents of libel and slander.
01:18:51The fact is, Your Honor, most of these accusations are laughable and motivated by a malicious desire for revenge due
01:18:57to the civil case I recently brought against their clients.
01:19:00Their accusations stretch back over 20 years.
01:19:04That's the legal equivalent of going through my trash.
01:19:07And more recently, did you write to Judge James Moore in Alabama, falsely accusing him of...
01:19:14...consorting with criminal buddies?
01:19:17Your Honor, the real fact of the matter is, these people don't like me.
01:19:22Because I give them the truth, and it hurts like hell.
01:19:35Hey man, it's me.
01:19:37Er, what's happening?
01:19:39How's it gone?
01:19:40You can't still be in there, call me.
01:19:42I want to know what's happening.
01:20:05Jack, it's Patty. Please give me a call when you get out.
01:20:26According to the FTC, Take-Two and Rockstar failed to notify consumers that Grand Theft Auto San Andreas contained otherwise
01:20:34hidden nudity and a sexually themed mini-game.
01:20:37The settlement today requires that the companies must now develop a system to ensure that all game content is considered
01:20:45and reviewed before being submitted to the ratings authority.
01:20:49And other breaking news...
01:20:51That's it?
01:20:51The fierce storm warnings happen...
01:20:52They got off.
01:20:53...in the southern states' hurricane force would continue to batter the Bahamas.
01:20:57An emergency task force has been appointed to deal with...
01:21:05Hey.
01:21:08Well done.
01:21:11Wrist slap, no fine, mustn't happen again.
01:21:15Couldn't have hoped for better than that.
01:21:19You were in there nine hours.
01:21:22Yep.
01:21:29I just heard Jack Thompson's been permanently disbarred from practicing law.
01:21:34Maybe he'll leave us alone now.
01:21:37Maybe.
01:21:40I doubt it.
01:21:42I thought you'd be pleased to know you'd won.
01:21:51Don Simpson died of a heart attack on the toilet with 21 different types of drugs in his system and
01:21:56his trousers round his ankles.
01:21:58He'd had so much cosmetic surgery, people said he barely looked human.
01:22:02He's your hero, he is.
01:22:05He's your hero, he is.
01:22:31Because the violence has allowed the ball to protect the strip of porn and all.
01:22:31He has to prevent the video games and sexually explicit video games to minors.
01:22:34We need to treat violent video games the way we treat tobacco, alcohol and pornography.
01:22:40And Governor Schwarzenegger has banned the sale of violent games to minors in California.
01:22:45You are winning.
01:22:47what am i winning i've been permanently disbarred families of those dead cops haven't had justice
01:22:56rockstar games got off scot-free
01:23:02what did i win the law is changing
01:23:10you're a special lady patty
01:23:14thank you
01:23:18thank you for always supporting me
01:23:50Um, excuse me.
01:24:06You want to let me in?
01:24:09No.
01:24:27Was this you running away?
01:24:28I don't remember the last time I had any time to myself.
01:24:39Why are you here?
01:24:41We need you.
01:24:44I quit.
01:24:46Sam, I'm gonna leave.
01:24:47Don't leave.
01:24:48I need a break.
01:24:49Come here.
01:24:50Come here.
01:24:57You're one of the most important people in my life.
01:25:00I need you.
01:25:02I'm still gonna leave.
01:25:04Despite the nice hope.
01:25:05We're just having a bad time right now,
01:25:06because people are using us as a political footballer,
01:25:09but that'll change, and we'll get back to normal.
01:25:11I don't want to go back to normal.
01:25:14The endless crunch times,
01:25:16running between eight different studios,
01:25:17living on a plane and firing people.
01:25:19It's your company, Sam, not mine.
01:25:21Yeah, but you're a key part of it, mate.
01:25:22I can't do it without you.
01:25:24Look, Rockstar belongs to you and Dan and Terry.
01:25:26You get all the royalties.
01:25:29Do you want to give me some of them?
01:25:38You know, I've been thinking of quitting myself.
01:25:41Just stopping the whole thing.
01:25:46It's not fun anymore.
01:25:48Look, you can't do that.
01:25:50Look, I can leave, but you can't because you're a proper pioneer, Sam.
01:25:54You're a genius.
01:25:56You're changing the way games are perceived.
01:25:58It's all right, man.
01:26:00I don't even know what I'm gonna do next.
01:26:02You'll do your next game.
01:26:05That'll be the best one yet.
01:26:08I know it will.
01:26:39It's all right.
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